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Practice 1: 19:40 (UK London) (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:10 (~30 mins)
Race: ~20:40 (30 Minutes)
Cars allowed: Ford Falcon Sprint, Lotus Cortina Works


Track: New Hampshire Motor Speedway Road Course (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#post_nhms))
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: None required

Qualifing procedure

• Each driver will get 1 out lap and 1 flying lap
• No cooldown lap. Please hit escape after you cross the line on your flying lap
• There are no resets. If you crash, then make the most of it. Get across the line.
• The order in which drivers will qualify will be in reverse order of the grid after the practice session
• I will announce your name when it is your turn to qualify
• The server administrator will advance to the race session once everyone has had an opportunity to qualify

Server: simracing.org.uk - P&G
Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.

 :thumbup2: Sounds good Mike. Now that's what I call pressure!

What an odd idea - I like it  ;D
Will do my best to make it

Congratulations Mike on another innovative idea. I'm looking forward to partaking of your P&G feast.

However..........will 20mins be long enough for the qually rigmarole?

Hi everyone! :)
Can I join your race?

I'll actually set the server for a 60 minute quali session and then take as much time as needed. I'll have to be careful not to select tracks that are too long. If we get good at this, we may be able to send a guy out on his out lap while another driver is on his flyer. For now, let's go with 1 driver at a time.

Would love to have you Miguel. You may remember me from Race 2 Play.

Guys... Miguel is a great driver. He will make a fine addition to the group.

Great idea Mike  ;D

I have tried this type of quali many times in  LFS, and from my experience, peope will pick up the procedure real quick,
While you're waiting for your turn or for the qualification to finish, it's fun to watch the efforts of the other drivers.

Stig. / Hotkeys

Miguel, please be sure to enter your nationality in your profile, then you will see a little flag against your name in the results table.

Nice to have you with us.  :)

Mike, is the track by N2LO and version 1.0?

Download link activated... ;)

Welcome Miguel.

Exciting twist :) Should make this.

Interesting format.

Just a shame that it's two crap cars and a track that I have never heard of!

Thanks folks!
Qual/Race time is GMT?


In Driver Details? Done this when register.


Are you kidding, bro? Guess how I found this place. I asked Google p&g mike miller ;D


Not so great, to beat you in equal conditions, but I'll do my best! :angel:

Welcome Miguel...yes the times are GMT.

Hope to make this one, but will be touch and go.

These start times are a little early for me these days and I can see me missing a lot of races  :(

I have the same issue. Anything before 8:30 is difficult for me sometimes, due to family life.

Traditional midweek race start time has been 8:40 for as long as I can remember...

I'm afraid I am dealing with the same issue although it's even an hour later over here.
Would be a lot of rushing and no warm-up  :-[

Mike, as were trying to increase grid sizes it doesn't make sense to possibly exclude folk by using early start times, does it?

One half hour might make all the difference between some racing or not.

Whatdya say  :winkiss:

BTW there isn't a Lotus Cortina GT Works  :angel:

Look for Lotus Cortina instead of Ford Cortina Tony :- ))

BTW ... I agree om Tony and Alex's point of view regarding the hours.

Stig / Hotkeys

Did not realize the time issue. I'd be happy to adjust it.

Practice Server Started with Lotus Cortina Works

Times seem very close between the cars for me at least.
Low 1:19s with either so far.

Looking pretty promising then Clive ;)

I can't wait to hear what you think about the track :-X

Always Mr Positive is our Clive.  :D
Ok, so it's not as sunny as Barcelona, but it does have inclines, down as well as up...

4 x gl/Malbec from Argentina + 25 (~~) laps = 1.19.500 ........ that's my level ....... and tomorrow I'll attend my son defending his Master in theorethical physics .... it's about turbulens in fluids ( seriously ).

CU on thursday

Stig / Hotkeys

LOL

Been too busy to even look.  ::)

Possible that I won't make this.  Depends on how much time I get to myself on Wednesday night and how other, more tangible, challenges are progressing.

I had a bit of a downer on this track from racing it in iR. But it turns out that it's really rather good in PnG (note to self - You already knew that iR removes all the fun from racing  ::)) & the Falcon was also a lot more fun than expected. 8)

1:18.2 in the Tina
1:19.1 in the Falcon

It's most unlike me, but I think I'll probably go for the big brute :o & try to annoy a few squirts in the hairdressers Cortina :-X (eh Clive ;D)

You looked even more dangerous in the Falcon! 

1:18.3 in the Cortina for me and, if I ever get the long lefthander near the end of the lap sorted, there could be another half second!

Not sure the tyres are going to last and although it shouldn't be a factor, I think that I detected a pit lane speed limiter!

I'll be in the falcon to annoy the tina's on the NASCAR portion of the track.

I added my Falcon setup to my setup repository.
http://www.humyo.com/FSlWqtt/Setups/?a=oYct0BvPY54

So what time is kick-off?

Is the race announcement correct?

And what happens to people that join during qually?

Race start time depends on how long it takes to get through qualifying. I plan to start racing as soon as qualifying is complete. The quali start time is correct. Race start time may be a little earlier or later than the estimated 30 minutes for quali. It really depends on the number of drivers and effeciency with which we can get people on track. This is a test afterall.

Qualifying order will be in reverse order of the practice times. So you are next on track if your name is on the bottom of the list. If you join during quali, you better get in the driver's seat very quickly because you are up next. It is best if everyone joins during the practice session.

For this 1st test, I'd like to run 1 driver on track at a time. Going forward though, it makes sense to have 1 driver out on a hot lap and a 2nd on an out lap following the hot lap driver. This will reduce the overal time required to run the quali session and still give others a chance to watch the hot lapper on track sweat.

Does the quali start time work for you guys in the UK? Obviously I can't change things for tonight, but if it is too early or late I can make adjustments for future events.

Times are fine for me at least  :)

Enjoyed the quali session. The odd one off special would be fun :)

Put fuel in but forgot to change quali tyres. Race not much fun cause of that.

Welcome Miguel  :)

Really liked the qually format and we could let more drivers on the track at in future to save time.

Track was OK too

Probably the most enjoyable race I've had in any SIM for over a month (might not sound much, but that's probably approaching 15 races :laugh:)

Was going really well at the start, but span on the inside of T1 after about 4 laps hanging onto the leading group. Spent a few laps catching up to Geoffers & Clive & then saw Mike suffer the same as I had & drop back behind us some.

Try as I might, I just couldn't make a move on Clive & he was struggling with Geoffers, then I really tried to apply the pressure, got one chance & took it... then clung onto it for all i was worth. We were so close Clive & me from about lap 7 till the finish line. On the last 4/5 laps we were joined by Mike, that put a cat (a bloody big one!) amongst the pigeons I can tell you! He got past Clive & even got past me for a corner, twice I think! :laugh:

Brilliant stuff. I'd never have predicted that from my history of this track. Really liked qually too. Think we could have had 2.5 ( :wacko:)on track right through though. :)

I totally agree Legzy ;D Didn't have the time to practice much, but I had someone to chase or keep behind me for most of the race.

This track was ideal for a duel between the Falcon and the Lotus ...... a superb choice Mike  :thumbup1: :thumbup1:

Stig / Hotkeys

Results and Replay Posted in a secret Location

Enjoyed the whole deal, I think the one at a time may get old eventually, if so we can get 2.538 on the track at once
then you can choose who you want to watch. Spun and maybe was assisted down the banking at T1
went off same place later, but had fun dicing with people, had some good clean racing with Bill twice  8)

Fantastic fun for me tonight. I really enjoyed the quali format. It mixed up the field a bit which made for some interesting racing as well as applied pressure to the driver on his hot lap. Having two cars with different personalities and similar lap times also helped. I most enjoyed watching FMG and others slide the arse of the led sled Falcon around the track. Miguel might remember how fond I am of the purple Falcon sprint from our racing days at Race 2 Play.

For the next round, let's try the 2 cars on track. Lorenzo lined up at pit exit in preperation for the starter asking him to go. I think this worked well.  Matt did a brilliant job with the starter duties. Going forward we'll leave it up to the starter's discression on how to best seperate the drivers. Under no circumstances though should a person on his hotlap be impeded or pressured from behind. When get really comfortable with 2 or find ourselves on a large circuit then we can run more.

It was interesting to see so many drivers including myself were quicker in the race than quali. It is tough to get a perfect lap with only 1 shot. It's even tougher if you have 0 practice and don't know your way out of the garage and onto the pit lane.  :laugh:

I had many, many close battles with others on track today. The battles with FMG, Ade, Legzy and Clive stand out. FMG pulled off a brilliant pass entering the outfield takeing Ade and I 3 wide. He wasn't suckered into the deep braking duel Ade partook in and then FMG held his ground on the inside and refused to yield. Brilliant stuff FMG!

Many congrats to Miguel for his first trifecta (pole, win, fast lap).

This was a test round. The next will be the 1st race in season 5.

Good race, really enjoyed throwing the Cortina around. ;D

I must admit I was a bit dubious about the new qually procedure, I thought it would mean a lot of sitting around twiddling your thumbs. But it was actually quite exciting & a bit nerve-wracking when it came to your turn. :thumbup1:

Race was great fun, had a good battle with Clive for several laps until I put it off the road at the downhill left. Drove hard after that to catch back up & got on the tail of the battle for 4th with about 3/4 of a lap to go. Might have made up a place or two if the race hadn't finished early, these timed races have a habit of not running the full distance in P&G. ???

Congrats & welcome to Miguel & congats also to FMG & Ade. :clap: :clap: :clap:

PS: If any of you P&G fans are sat around with nothing to do on Sunday, over at NG we are running a P&G race at Reims. http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237572

Carrying on a point that Geoffers picked up on..........why do we have to have race distance set by time. Surely by race day there is the info available to gauge what the no. off laps will be give or take a lap either way?

Race distance by time was unintensional and a mistake on my part. I while preparing the race, I jotted down 30 minutes for the race distance, but forgot to calculate the number of laps after my testing. I simply entered the data from my notes into the race announcement.

Yes that was great fun particularly my racing with you and the first time I think, we had Stig / Hotkeys between us with his Lotus Cortina - all of us giving the others room to race. Like someone else said earlier I've never thrown a Lotus Cortina around like that before - Mike's earlier advice on changing the Mini handling stuck in my mind - so I cranked up the rear roll bar and it made all the difference in those tight bends.  It was more like driving a Rally Cross car, drifting over the loose stuff, on the edge of control or in my case over it at times.

Re:- the qualifying, we used something similar in the GTL NZ organised league on Simjunkies, except that we had 15 mins to qualify - warm up and one flying lap.  We use to go out when we were ready with a 15 to 20 sec gap and usually all went well unless we were unfortunate to get caught up in a previous driver's incident.  In general over a period of a year plus it worked well.  We use to have 3 sprints so we had plenty of practice at getting it right.

Is that about the first week in May?

Don't be silly Clive, you won't have to wait nearly so long ::)

I'm anticipating about the first week in April :-\

Thank you all for the great race.
Special thanks to Ian for the first half, and to Tim for the second. It was a real sweat squeezer! :)
Ian, sorry for hitting on banking. This made my race greatly complicated, since I could not see when you slowing down. ;D

I'm not a master write long race reports, so here's what interesting happened to me in this race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP4EFgvShU

No problem Miguel. Its obvious when someones driving carelessly and you clearly weren't, in fact quite the opposite. Shame my setup/tyre choice was all wrong as I was thoroughly enjoying that. Hope to cyu for more races :)

No news on next week's PnG outing so far, so....might I be cheeky and request the rarely used RSR makes an appearance  :angel: Would be a blast especially at one of the tighter circuits.

 

That can be arranged GT.

 8)

What's the plan Mike? Are we starting a new season?

I'm hoping mike has a solid tip on Pt3 coming out at the end of the month and is waiting for that   :)

Means I get to play with a Lotus 7 in the near future then  ;D
(The Camero should be fun too)