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Title: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 03, 2011, 11:59:00 AM +0000
Track: Laguna Seca
Cars: Radical SR8 or Riley Daytona Prototype
Practice: 18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 44 laps (approx 60 mins)
Resets: One fast tow
Start procedure: Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
Pit stops: One mandatory stop
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Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: GizMoTo on February 04, 2011, 06:46:39 PM +0000
OK I gona try this little car again don't want to be a wet blanket and drop the numbers  ;D + I got a team to help out ;) ::)


has anybody got a reply file of a decent lap round laguna ................or any track for that matter  I thinks it would be helpful to sit in the drivers seat with my arms crossed and watch a lap a few times to see how the drive this darn thing  so if anybody would consider sharing a replay I would gratefully appreciate it

TiA
Ian


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 04, 2011, 08:22:12 PM +0000
I'll sort something for you Ian :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 04, 2011, 10:36:54 PM +0000
It's an even better car with the new build. Much easier to drive. That's the Radical I'm talking about. The DP may well also have improved, I dunno?!!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 05, 2011, 12:16:51 AM +0000
I just raced the DP in Grand Am and it's also a lot nicer than before :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Fred Basset on February 05, 2011, 07:16:24 AM +0000
I'll sort something for you Ian :)

I've got one lined up if you want it with MoTeC traces too.

I saw you were online with the DP Mike, how do you think that ones improved.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 05, 2011, 11:00:52 AM +0000
Granted I hadn't driven it since our last championship with it, but it felt better on turn-in and mid corner, and better over kerbs.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 05, 2011, 11:22:20 AM +0000
and better over kerbs.

That seems to be common on all cars I've tried so far. 


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: GizMoTo on February 05, 2011, 11:23:06 AM +0000
thanks Fred will take anything if it helps me get a better handle on the Rad  ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: GizMoTo on February 05, 2011, 11:18:19 PM +0000
OK as usual I'm over driving  ::) thanks for help so far

pulled back a bit and taken off 2 seconds from my last practice time ;D but this I suspect is  quite a few seconds off a decent pace  :-\ I'm now doing with 8.5 fuel {just happened to be the fuel in a set-up I picked to start testing with} 1:21.3+ at best

a hell of a lot more practice required  ::)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 05, 2011, 11:24:23 PM +0000
OK as usual I'm over driving  ::) thanks for help so far

pulled back a bit and taken off 2 seconds from my last practice time ;D but this I suspect is  quite a few seconds off a decent pace  :-\ I'm now doing with 8.5 fuel {just happened to be the fuel in a set-up I picked to start testing with} 1:21.3+ at best

a hell of a lot more practice required  ::)

Snap. I did a few laps last night and I was initially turning 23's, but it was all a bit scruffy. I then calmed it down and just drove a couple of steady laps and hey presto straight down in to the 21's. Not sure I'll be running on Tuesday though due to the usual difficulties and a few more thrown on top!!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 07, 2011, 10:05:15 AM +0000
I'll try and start a practice session tonight at 6 from the train again.  If I fail Gary's said he'll do it so keep an eye out for it and join if you are able.

Solo practice is dull.

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 07, 2011, 11:09:24 AM +0000
OK as usual I'm over driving  ::) thanks for help so far

pulled back a bit and taken off 2 seconds from my last practice time ;D but this I suspect is  quite a few seconds off a decent pace  :-\ I'm now doing with 8.5 fuel {just happened to be the fuel in a set-up I picked to start testing with} 1:21.3+ at best

a hell of a lot more practice required  ::)
Well that's the pace I'm on, though I'm short of practice since the new build.

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Fred Basset on February 07, 2011, 12:51:06 PM +0000
I'll try and start a practice session tonight at 6 from the train again.  If I fail Gary's said he'll do it so keep an eye out for it and join if you are able.

Solo practice is dull.

Paul
:)

If Paul does not manage to start it I will try as he's said, but I'm not likely to do that until about 19.00-19.30 with my trains.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 07, 2011, 06:18:53 PM +0000
Server's coming up.

Sorry it's late, forgot I hadn't updated the laptop.

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: GizMoTo on February 07, 2011, 11:04:51 PM +0000
thanks very much for hosting  :thumbup2: .

glad I did some hard running because where I have my pedals mounted came loose and I had to drop out for an hour to fix it .would have been a disaster if that had happened in a race  :-\

cy tomorrow night guys


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 08, 2011, 05:59:20 PM +0000
Server on it's way.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Robin Durrant on February 08, 2011, 08:52:58 PM +0000
Sorry not in the right frame of mind.

I'd end up making a mistake and spoiling someone else's race.

Also sorry to Gary in practice, that was uncalled for. I understand you didn't mean it.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 08, 2011, 09:14:04 PM +0000
Sorry not in the right frame of mind.

I'd end up making a mistake and spoiling someone else's race.

I know how you feel - not felt quite right for a few days and tonight, having done okay in an MX-5 race earlier, my concentration is just not there.

Really sorry about the mix up with the standing start - I use the "Use last settings" option it seemed to have done everything right, all I had to do was bump the track and lap counts to the right values. Obviously I didn't check hard enough. :-[ With hindsight I should've called for a single file rolling start under the polesitter's control on the grid but as it was, we went, stopped, went, stopped etc etc. I rearranged the back of Purdie's DP and decided at the end of that lap to reset and get my stop out of the way and a fresh car.

That felt better but with the leaders bearing down on me after about 10 laps I snatched the rears under braking for the final turn and ate the wall That bent the steering and with my reset already used I parked it.

Dunno why the extra tiny grid tonight. ???


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Brendan on February 08, 2011, 10:06:17 PM +0000
That..........was............EPIC!!  :o :D

Was very pleased with 2nd on the grid and kept telling myself "you're not racing the Radicals, you're not racing the Radicals, you're not racing the Radicals" as I was certain I wouldn't be able to keep the pace.  Imagine my surprise then, when I just drove clean away into the lead.

Great, now I've got to race the Radicals........  Anyway tried to put in steady consistent laps which I was managing until I started to lose focus and the times were dropping off.  This allowed Paul T to close in which was the kick up the backside I needed to pick up the pace.

Decided to take tyres at the stop and expected Mike, Paul and Gary to leapfrog me.  As it was, only Mike and Paul got by and Gary was looming large in my mirrors.  The new rubber felt great and I managed to reel in the 6 secs to Paul fairly quickly.  However, the early pace on the new tyres quickly diminished and I was facing the prospect of a battle with Gary.  I kept getting understeer through T2 and T3 which was probably a result of me overdriving, and it was into T4 where Gary eventually got by on the outside.

Tried to keep up with Paul and Gary ahead but hopes of anything higher than 4th were rapidly disappearing so kept a steady pace to the finish.

Well done Mike on a great win and also to Gary and Paul T who drove superbly throughout.



Dunno why the extra tiny grid tonight. ???


Probably the Laguna effect.  It's certainly not on my favourite list although I do seem to have decent races here.  ???


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: GizMoTo on February 08, 2011, 10:12:51 PM +0000
Quote
Dunno why the extra tiny grid tonight.
I would say the track ..........did I say I HATE Laguna ;)

well that start got everybody in front of me I think I hit the gas went round 1 car found myself in 2nd  ;D knew i would soon get swallowed up but ran hard for as long as I could ...big mistake this sodding track always gets me in the same way at some point .........normally near the end of the race but this time it was on Lap 15/16 turn 1 sodding flat tyre  :-\ tried to keep out of everybody's way and trundled round to the pits for some new rubber and some fuel to last the rest of the race with the intention to run a chunk slower and save some rubber this went real good up to lap 29  when half way round the lap my right foot got the most god awful cramp .felt like my little toe wanted to be where my big toe was  >:( ended up running round to the pits using only my left foot while I tried to sort my right foot it was still bad so I pitted for some more rubber just to give my foot some time I should have left it there but I wanted to finish a sodding Radical race no matter how many laps i was down anyway got back on track with a numb foot took it very easy until I got some feeling back then I ran harder again trying to keep out of Andy and Martins race  as they where having some fun by the looks of it  ;)

have to say I was surprised I was only 2 laps down at the end  thought I had lost a lot more time than that .at least I finished so I'm happy about that even though my foot is killing me

will be very happy though is I never see Laguna again ;)

so sorry if I got in anybody's way along my event filled run  ::)

catch ya all next race  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 08, 2011, 10:30:42 PM +0000
errr, well! ;D

I, again, didn't spot we were on a standing start grid and when the lights went, Gary sort of went and stopped, I parked up behind, then we realised the race had started without us  :o

We were both pushing very hard trying to recover lost ground.  Gary was carving through the traffic and I got stuck behind Oily.  We passed Robin when he had a huge moment, then I finally got a run on Oily into the Corkscrew.  This is not my favourite overtaking spot, but it worked out.  Soon chased down Ian and finally managed to pass... into the corkscrew  ::)

Then I passed Gary who had spun off.... at the corkscrew.

Now I was 10 sec behind Brendan in the lead with Paul not far behind him, so I pushed it really hard to try and catch up so I might have a chance of jumping Brendan at least at the pitstop.  By half distance I had closed to within a second of Paul and was only 3 sec behind Brendan.  I didn't want to lose time fighting Paul, so into the pits to top up with fuel.

Soon found I had jumped past Brendan, which I had expected, but I also jumped past Paul too!  I was worried about Gary though, I felt it would be touch-and-go to stay ahead of him, but he was in the pits longer than expected and I was past into the lead!

From then on it was maintaining a decent pace and keeping an eye on the gap.  Epic race guys, enjoyed that a lot ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 08, 2011, 11:10:04 PM +0000

Probably the Laguna effect.  It's certainly not on my favourite list although I do seem to have decent races here.  ???

Yup, probably the only track I truly hate!!

So even if my central heating system hadn't gone belly up tonight I don't know whether I'd have made the effort tbh.

Anybody know a good plumber?!!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Fred Basset on February 08, 2011, 11:28:43 PM +0000
Dunno why the extra tiny grid tonight. ???

I suspect its Laguna, up to the last time we've been here I hated it, last time I started to get, this time I love it. It flows better than many of the other tracks, overdriving just doesn't work here.

Right, sorry about the start I'd forgotten about the transmission model so with a boot ful of revs and no clutch I could not get the thing in gear. Apologies to anyone I messed up, with this, worst affected must have been Mike but it turned out well for him anyway fortunately ;D

Going through the grid was brilliant fun, getting on the tail of Paul and spinning at the Corkscrew wasn't so much ::)

Andy, I hope my rejoin was ok it looked like I had enough time to go.

It was then great fun getting past Oily and Ian and then reeling in Brendan, Paul and Mike and I had some home of leapfrogging them in the pits but my extra laps on low fuel weren't great and I lost time rather than gained it I think.

Undeterred I set off again and had a great scrap with Brendan, I have to say I expected the DP to be much quicker here. I caught Paul but he was driving too neatly to be able to get him although I tried to the end.

With hindsight I should've called for a single file rolling start under the polesitter's control on the grid but as it was, we went, stopped, went, stopped etc etc. I rearranged the back of Purdie's DP and decided at the end of that lap to reset and get my stop out of the way and a fresh car.

Yeah, I had lots of fun tonight but can we do this in future because we could have had carnage tonight. I've not done a standing start since the Skippies.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 09, 2011, 06:27:39 AM +0000
Interesting that everyone hates Laguna yet when I did the analysis of previous SRO races it indicated it gets good grids.  I hate it too but if you avoid the tracks you don't like you'll never get better.

I hate it slightly less now. :)

Sitting on the grid something didn't feel right.  Luckily I dropped it into first when the lights appeared but still didn't twig, then my spotter shouted "Green, green, green" and my subconscious slammed my right foot down.

Ian flew by but luckily Brendan had gone and I has a clear space in front and got to the first corner in third.  Ian slid wide at T2 (It's T1 - that kink's not a corner ;)) and I got by.

I was expecting Brendan to pull away but I seemed able to keep up.  I wasn't keeping up to the same pace I'd been able to in practice but I wasn't crashing.  Which was nice.

Mike appeared behind.  I knew he was quick here and he closed the gap, but not quite as quickly as I'd expected.  He dropped into the pits at about half distance but I wasn't as comfortable now the fuel level had gone down.  I was getting oversteer and and lost me the extra lap advantage which resulted in Mike getting past when I came out of the pits.

To my surprise though Brendan was behind.  Surprise turned to shock a couple of laps later when I passed Gary in the pits as he'd been right behind me when I stopped.

I tried to ignore them and concentrate on my driving.  That mostly worked as I was still not crashing.  Which was nice.

I made my immediate aim to stay ahead of Brendan till Gary caught him, hoping they'd concentrate on each other and forget about me.  That worked nicely in the event.  It took Gary 4 or 5 laps to get past during which time they lost 3-4 seconds.  When Gary did get by he started to home in on me.  I checked how long to go and saw 3 laps.  OK I thought, this is doable.

Coming into the last corner Gary closed right up but he wasn't quite close enough to get alongside.  I suspect I'd not have survived another lap but luckily there wasn't one.  I'll claim I paced it nicely. ;)

Congratulations to Mike on a perfect drive and apologies to him for chanting incantations throughout the second half of the race in an attempt to make him crash. ;)

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 09, 2011, 07:19:32 AM +0000
Re..re..re..reeeeesults.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 09, 2011, 08:04:02 AM +0000
Re..re..re..reeeeesults.
Thanks Dave. :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: purdie on February 09, 2011, 03:25:29 PM +0000
great race and lots of fun  :laugh:.... small grid was hardly an issue due to how close we all were (sort of  ::))...shame because I do enjoy Laguna and in the DP it seemed a good combo.

With swarms of Radicals I had no excuse being 5th when Brendan was very veeery quick in the DP  ::)

The start was iffy for obvious reasons and I was hoping everyone would default to GTR2 mode for the pace lap but no such luck. I slammed on the brakes a bit too hard in the confusion and Dave caught me, sorry mate  :-\ ... my car looked worse than it drove until I tee-boned Ian or Martin about 15 laps in when they touched wheels and I couldn't avoid them  :o

Carried on for the rest of the race with a car that wanted to go left so lucky its an anti-clockwise circuit! After pitting and just changing my tyres the car felt better and I had a great race with Martin to the flag. Thought I would end up losing the position but I defended with the fat backside of the DP  ::) and finished 5th! or 2nd in DP class as I prefer to say  :-*

Andy, I hope my rejoin was ok it looked like I had enough time to go.

More than enough, plus when your 2 secs quicker I was not gonna waste any time defending you!

Bring on the Indycars next  8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 09, 2011, 03:39:25 PM +0000
Carried on for the rest of the race with a car that wanted to go left so lucky its an anti-clockwise circuit!
Corkscrew must have been interesting!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Dan Minton on February 09, 2011, 05:18:36 PM +0000
Quote
Anybody know a good plumber?!!

Yeah ...Me !!   Although im a bit far away.



Got called out at 6pm and didnt get back till midnight so apologies for not being able to make the race.   

hope it was a good one if not a small grid.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 09, 2011, 05:36:13 PM +0000
Quote
Anybody know a good plumber?!!

Yeah ...Me !!   Although im a bit far away.



Got called out at 6pm and didnt get back till midnight so apologies for not being able to make the race.   

hope it was a good one if not a small grid.

LOL Dan, shame.

Fixed it myself today. Well got the heating going again, there is still a problem to sort out.

Yesterday morning there was no sign of trouble, heating came on as normal on the timer. Then last night as soon as I walked in I could feel it was freezing. Sure enough no heating because the system had completely de-pressurised, absolutely flat as a haddock. So it had dropped over 1 bar in a day. Tried the filling connection to re-pressurise but it was going back to zero within seconds of closing the valve. There was no visible signs of a leak on any external pipework or damp patches on walls or ceilings. Couldn't contact my plumber and it has turned out he is on holiday in Thailand!! So today I blanked off the one easily accessible radiator run. The main system is small bore from a manifold but a couple of years ago we had an extension built on the back and they took the feed for the radiator from the manifold feed/return under the floor boards on the landing. I disconnected the T off's and fitted blanks and lo and behold the system holds it's pressure. So there is one massive leak on that extra extension rad circuit. It runs across the first floor back bedroom then in to a sort of duct created when we boxed in the toilet soil pipe to avoid moving it. The pipes then run through the concrete floor to the radiator on the far wall. I can't believe the leak is under the floor boards or there would have been some visible damage on the ceiling below. So it's either in the duct and the water has just ran down in to the cavity, or in the concrete floor and the water is just soaking away some how. But I can't see an easy way of repairing it!!!



Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: purdie on February 09, 2011, 05:40:00 PM +0000
Sorry not in the right frame of mind.

I'd end up making a mistake and spoiling someone else's race.

Also sorry to Gary in practice, that was uncalled for. I understand you didn't mean it.

your on the pace mate, just don't get any quicker  ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 09, 2011, 08:47:24 PM +0000
absolutely flat as a haddock.

Point of order (I'm sure you were angling for it): haddock aren't flat. Sole or plaice are flat, rays are mostly flat, crabs are flat (if you apply a car to them), but haddock are most emphatically not flat.

The Fish Police :wetfish:


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 09, 2011, 08:57:24 PM +0000
absolutely flat as a haddock.

Point of order (I'm sure you were angling for it): haddock aren't flat. Sole or plaice are flat, rays are mostly flat, crabs are flat (if you apply a car to them), but haddock are most emphatically not flat.

The Fish Police :wetfish:
They are if you sit on them long enough.  :angel:


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Ken Murray on February 09, 2011, 10:10:34 PM +0000
LOL guys


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Laguna Seca - Feb 8
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 09, 2011, 10:28:19 PM +0000
Congratulations to Mike on a perfect drive and apologies to him for chanting incantations throughout the second half of the race in an attempt to make him crash. ;)
I did wonder why that itching started  :D