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Title: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 09, 2011, 08:09:55 AM +0000
Track: Barber Motorsports Park (GP)
Cars: Radical SR8 or Riley Daytona Prototype
Practice: 18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 44 laps (approx 60 mins)
Resets: One fast tow
Start procedure: Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
Pit stops: One mandatory stop
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Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Fred Basset on February 13, 2011, 06:27:42 PM +0000
I suspect that I'll be missing this one fellas, I've managed to break my wheel and am currently waiting on parts from Japan for it.

Shame as I love Barber >:(

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: GizMoTo on February 20, 2011, 05:29:48 PM +0000
anybody done any laps in the Radical here yet ?

gona try a few in a bit see what time's i can get round here ....not run this track in a long long time  :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 20, 2011, 06:44:01 PM +0000
Done a few today.  Best of 1:20.8 on fuel but mostly 1:21s.

Not an easy track but at least it has grip.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: purdie on February 21, 2011, 01:15:43 PM +0000
out on a works do which is a great shame! next tuesday it is then........  ::)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 21, 2011, 02:18:31 PM +0000
It's not going to be another ghost race is it?  First Gary, now Andy...

I'll start a practice session from the train as usual this evening.

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 21, 2011, 06:05:57 PM +0000
Practice session started.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 22, 2011, 06:00:12 PM +0000
Server on its way - I remembered to check the start type this time, looks like it sets it back to standing every time you change track. ::)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 22, 2011, 06:15:06 PM +0000
Server on its way - I remembered to check the start type this time, looks like it sets it back to standing every time you change track. ::)

You're no fun. :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Fred Basset on February 22, 2011, 07:35:55 PM +0000
Good luck guys, I'll hopefully be back next time.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Robin Durrant on February 22, 2011, 09:17:19 PM +0000
I was all over the place after a few laps. Continually falling out with the kerbs.

I was getting dangerous so thought it best to hang up the helmet. Sorry.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 22, 2011, 10:10:52 PM +0000
Having not driven the car in a month and not driven the track in quite a lot longer than that I turned up just moments before the clocked ticked over for qualifying. Grabbed Gizmo's setup, but felt too much like wrestling the car, so after qualifying in that with a slow time I swapped to the setup I already had which was much pointier. My fastest lap in the race was 1.5 seconds faster than my qualifying time so it shows you how much some track time can help with speed!

After trying to keep up with Mike, Dave and Paul in the first stint, the second stint was trying to put pressure on Dave. I closed to within 1 or 2 seconds with my fastest laps of the race, but that killed the tyres and I could never quite put as much pressure on again and we finished just 2-3 seconds apart in the end, but I was never in danger of actually managing to overtake.

Coming last in class sounds bad, but as there were only 3 in class, it's not to shabby a result. ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 22, 2011, 10:21:18 PM +0000
Phew, what a race! :fencing: :sweatdrop: :punk:

Finally started to click in qualifying and got 3rd on the grid; figured I had a chance of keeping up with Bananaman until about half way into the stint when the tyres would start to go, but to my surprise I was able to keep up without too much trouble, helped in part by him looking like he was struggling with the balance of the car quite badly.

Mike was starting to pile on pressure from behind until going into turn 1 I omitted to downshift into 3rd and ran wide onto the asphalt strip on the outside; gathered it back up but then ran wide on the way into turn 2, letting Mike by, but luckily not Shark.

A few laps later Paul crashed, which left me fending off Shark until the pit stops. He stopped a lap early but was burning more fuel than me, so I gained a second or so there, and we resumed battle on fresh tyres. He pushed like crazy for a few laps and I had no choice but to respond, driving just a little beyond my comfort zone. To spice things up, we caught Ken, who hadn't stopped yet, and on such a tight track the DP had no real straight line speed advantage, so with Shark breathing down my neck, when I had a slightly better exit out of the final turn I threw myself into a do or die effort over the curbs in turn 1, somehow not spinning, running into Ken or bouncing off. ;D :angel:

After about half the stint Shark's challenge faded, but only slightly, and I never really had a chance to relax until the last lap. Couldn't risk finishing both last in class and behind him. :winkiss:

Grabbed Gizmo's setup, but felt too much like wrestling the car

Yeah, I felt like I was wrestling a brace of eels for most of the race. I've been trying to train myself to drive more unstable setups and it's starting to pay off.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Brendan on February 22, 2011, 10:40:15 PM +0000
Was pleased with pole and pushed hard in the first stint to try and build a gap to the pack.  This worked out well and allowed me to take tyres at my stop without worrying too much about the gap closing to uncomfortable proportions.

Tried to keep it steady from here but had a few minor moments where the concentration started to waver and found myself in the middle of Ken and Paul's battle in the last few laps.  Decided to let them duke it out and let Paul through.

Congrats to Mike and Dave.

Small turnout again  ??? Real shame, as the sportscars offer some of the best racing IMO.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 22, 2011, 10:50:03 PM +0000
I'm always wary of this track and got almost no chance at warmup before qualifying.  Over-drove my way to 4th on the grid and settled in behind Dave and Paul.  Didn't settle very well and almost binned it for good when I mucked up the fast chicane, then managed to get my head down and closed back up.

Dave then went for a wild ride at T1 and not long after Paul spun at the hairpin, I just squeezed past on the inside, then pushed very hard to try and break away.  Slowly I was building a gap and when I made my stop and still had 14 seconds back to Dave, I knew that all I had to do was not crash.  Focus was promptly lost and my times fluctuated wildly which gave 7 seconds back to Dave by the end.

Now on to a proper track again, Silverstone :)

Congrats to Brendan and everyone who finished.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Ken Murray on February 22, 2011, 11:21:34 PM +0000
I was pleased with my qually performance with a new PB, but still not in to the 19's. I was caught a bit napping at the start. Not wanting to cause any trouble through those final tight turns I gave Simon plenty of room, but I soon found the leader had gone and I wasn't even through the final turn!!

However I slowly dropped back from Simon anyway and I was constantly aware of Ian loitering with intent. After about 10 laps a momentary lapse of concentration saw me clip a curb and spin out. Fortunately I didn't hit anything but now there was only Robin behind me. I trundled around for the remainder of the race and with a long first stint I was running 3rd at one point. But I was driving very scruffily. I'd hoped to make some time with a short stop for 4 gals of fuel and no tyres, but it was starting to understeer badly so I changed the fronts. Trouble is I'm hopeless at pressing the buttons to make that change and drive at the same time. I think I went across the grass and generally lost a load of time just faffing about getting it set how I wanted. Do you guys do any practice at that sort of thing? Maybe just drive around changing things for the sake of it just to make the operations more familiar to the brain!!

Towards the end Paul caught me and gave me a gentle tap in the penultimate turn to spin me out, which I thought was clever race craft. But, being the gentleman that he is, he pulled over and gave it back to me before the line!! Who says the age of chivalry is dead?!!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 23, 2011, 07:05:31 AM +0000
Positives and negatives.

On the plus side my speed has moved up a level and I was on the pace without having to spend the previous week practising.  Qually was a PB but not by much and my optimum is now a 19.1!

I managed to avoid overtaking the leader on the pace lap this time and got enough of a lead on Dave to avoid being pressured on the run down to the hairpin then settled in for the long haul.

Contrary to Dave's impression the balance of the car was fine, the problem was the gears.  I was obviously not blipping high enough and kept finding myself a gear higher than I meant to be.  This was allowing Dave to catch but when I got a lap right I would pull away.  I was just starting to get it right when I screwed up the hairpin and half span in the middle of the turn.  I had to sit there and wait for the Sharks to go by but then got going.  The problem was that I then immediately missed the turn-in point at the fast right hander at the end of the back straight, hit the kerb full on and was airborne on route to the scene of the accident.

The tow put me a lap down but I set off in pursuit to see what transpired.  I had another smaller spin and decided to pit.  I remembered to lower the fuel top-up from 21.2 but didn't check the tyres and lost another 10 seconds while it did that.

The new tyres did help though as I was able to lap more quickly than before, the spins may have shafted the old ones and I started to catch the cars in front though they were distant.  I decided to think like Stirling and aim for the fastest lap and managed a 1:19 fairly late on chasing down Brendan and Ken who I caught with a couple of laps to go.

Brendan let me unlap myself into the final complex on the penultimate lap (ta mate) and I spent the last lap on Ken's tailpipe.  Into the final complex I tried to get alongside but got it wrong and tapped him round.  I don't race that way so waited on the pit straight for him before crossing the line.

Hey, I still got 4th. ;)

Congratulations to Mike and Brendan who both drove beautifully.

So where was everyone then?  Are the tracks too difficult with all these corners and things?  Should we race ovals perhaps?

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 23, 2011, 08:45:44 AM +0000
I threw myself into a do or die effort over the curbs in turn 1, somehow not spinning, running into Ken or bouncing off. ;D :angel:

Report him for over-driving! ;) Drop him 2 places and make him last in class! ;D :-*


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Blunder on February 23, 2011, 09:26:12 AM +0000
Mmmmmm :)

Had a great first few laps chasing Ken and Ian, really close, loved it!
After Ken had a minor spin then it calmed down a little and a lack of concentration lost me a load of time :(
Pitted and decided not to take tyres, good plan but then had a puncture 2 laps later...
Was way behind at that point and not wanting another 20mins of hot lapping by myself, I exitted out :(
First time I have ever done that! :(

Must admit this low turnout is making me wonder if to just give Tuesdays a miss?
Not ideal but I am always short on time and I could use the time to practice for other races.

Real shame as this car/track combination was brilliant!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Brendan on February 23, 2011, 11:02:41 AM +0000

Must admit this low turnout is making me wonder if to just give Tuesdays a miss?
Not ideal but I am always short on time and I could use the time to practice for other races.

Real shame as this car/track combination was brilliant!

Don't do that Martin, the problem will just perpetuate itself further.

I'd be interested to find out why turnout has dropped off recently.  Is it a case of clashing with the Enduro or lack of interest in the cars/tracks, or something else? 

Paul, do you promote the series on the iR forum?


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 23, 2011, 12:20:50 PM +0000
I'd be interested to find out why turnout has dropped off recently.  Is it a case of clashing with the Enduro or lack of interest in the cars/tracks, or something else? 

I would think most of the people reading this thread are the ones that turned up so you're not really going to get many others (that didn't attend but might have) to answer in this thread.

I can tell you why I didn't turn up for the previous round. Week night, tired from work, couldn't be bothered, just wanted to vegetate in front of the TV instead.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Fred Basset on February 23, 2011, 12:31:00 PM +0000
I will be back next time, I seem to have got to the end of my issues with my wheel (well I hope so anyway)

It was just locking into a fixed position and I decided it would not be safe or fair to race until I was sure I'd sorted it. I was busy pounding round Northamptonshire testing whilst you guys were racing.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: Brendan on February 23, 2011, 12:56:46 PM +0000
I would think most of the people reading this thread are the ones that turned up so you're not really going to get many others (that didn't attend but might have) to answer in this thread.

It was a rhetorical question, really.  I'm not trying to get a straw poll of opinion here, just tossing around suggestions as to why the last few events have gone the way they have.  If those of us who do attend regularly can try and drum up the interest, it might help lift attendances in the future.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 Sportscar Challenge - Barber (GP) - Feb 22
Post by: GizMoTo on February 23, 2011, 01:11:46 PM +0000
well I'm glad I stuck it out with the radical  2 weeks in I really was gona give it up as I couldn't drive the car to save my life didn't know how it handled or anything  ::)
since then I took the idea I was just gona run the series to learn the car a bit and i think it is now coming together for me

last nights race I enjoyed fully  I was slow at the start and was next to last as Martin Mason got easy past but wasn't bothered and drove the car hard but safe..ish ;) a few laps in and Martin made a mistake which allowed me past  so now it was on to chase Ken knew this was gona be a challenge going off other races with Ken he is closely matched to me with his driving I thinks ;)  had a good time running behind him and there was no chance to pass so i just stuck as close as possible which paid off as Ken made a mistake and spun luckily I had actually dropped back a shade so i had time to watch his spin and pick my way past  ;)

after that I just drove the car as hard as I could {a bit lonely really the rest of the race} made my pit-stop as I had planned at half distance  took fuel and rubber second half of the race was quiet taken just below my full limit only had 1 incident count for the whole race, just a fraction to much curb entering the back straight i think it was >:(

ended the race in 5th place over all and a second in class so well happy with that

thanks for a good race even if the numbers where low it was still a lot of fun  ;)

see ya all next time

Ian