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And so we move to the penultimate race. In Works Tommie is leading but the crown is not yet guaranteed. The same goes for Bernie over in the Privateers.

We are running two separate grids for Works and Privateers drivers this season. The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 20-02-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Circuito Del Jarama
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 33)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : http://jarama.gaiztor.com/index_en.html (http://jarama.gaiztor.com/index_en.html)
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5013 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5013)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers

Kinghiro (R)	Evil Clive	Hristo
Tim FMG	Steve Bird	John Roberts
Al Heller	Vosblod	Jethro
Sam B	Bartosz (Pod)	Baab (R)
Beefpie (R)	Rick N (R)	JHalli (R)
Fulvio P (R)	Tommie van O (R)	EasternSun (R)
Pelle_B (R)

PRIVATEERS drivers

Bernie	Burtoner	Mike Turner
Billy Nobrakes	Bookie W	Nigel Smith
Fabio (Il Lupo)	Ronnie Peterson	Paul Badblood
Martin Maddog (R)	Ross Gilles27 (R)	Hannah (R)
Nicky I (R)	Happy Al (R)	D-Rock (R)
Toni Niemi (R)

EasternSun (R) - sub-division to be decided upon

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

REPLAYS
Privateers server replays will be posted in the usual place after the event. Works will now be posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ (http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/) . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.

The Circuito del Jarama (Circuit of Jarama), formerly known as Circuito Permanente del Jarama (Permanent circuit of Jarama) is a 2.115 mile race course in Madrid, Spain which has hosted nine Formula One Spanish Grand Prix. The circuit was built by Alessandro Rocci in 1967 north of Madrid in arid scrub land. It had a short straight and most of the course consisted of tight, twisty corners so overtaking was extremely difficult. Jarama hosted its last Formula One race in 1981 although it still holds occasional sports car and motorcycle races.

Who chose this track? I got a shock when I tried it  :o ...if T1 is hard on Mexico, this is all around  ;)
I have little difficulty finding out of 'tokens'...I have enough tokens for a Ferrari on Jamara ?

It finally succeeded with server in Igor/Gem+ & Jamara running 24/7 for those who wishes to practice  :)

Looks like you have 19 tokens + you will get 10 when you cross the start line so yes you can use a Ferrari.

Just hover the pointer over your total points and it will show your tokens; you currently have 19 and you will get a further 10 as you cross the start line so you have plenty for the Fez, in fact you could use any car.

Edit: Oh I wonder why I bother sometimes  :laugh: Who do you think you are, Chief Mod or something!!!!!  ;D

I wish to thank you for the answers ...no matter who you guys are  ;D Yeah, Ferrari  :laugh:

Well you should be left with 14 tokens after the race. So, as the rules stand, if you count in your ten at the next race you can also have the Ferrari at Monza if you want...

Hush Hush between the two of us, I had thought of pulling a Eagle up my sleeve  8)

Hey I've got a championship to win here! There's not gonna be no Eagle pulled up any sleeve!

You'll have to wait until Monza, Tom.  :)

I am definitely making progress but I want to know how in God's name Hristo managed a 1:27 around this bloody awful track. Five minutes in a back room with the sadistic mod who chose this abomination...

Have you seen the extremely suspicious world record of 1.18!!!!!!!!!! Now that is scary.

I doubt that's possible even in 69s, lol. Probably a warp/lag time uploaded along with other replay exports. I bet there's no replay to validate the lap. In fact, Jarama isn't one of those officially confirmed WR tracks, is it?

@Paul - I tried to find a replay of the race where I did that 27, but it seems I didn't save the replay. From the race report I wrote back then it appears as if the lap was a one-off, but I hope to be able to at least get close to it.  ::)

Hope you don't H - I only managed a 1:30.2 last time we were here and I had a Waza tank  ;D

Correct, no sign of a replay and yes it is a fastest lap as opposed to and official world record. Very odd that it has not been removed off the GPLRank site where I notice you reside next in line with an incredible but believable 1.25.977!!!!

They don't remove laps, regardless if they're valid or not. I hold a couple of unconfirmed WRs myself.  :D

Only some tracks have 100% verified and confirmed WRs, but even some of those tracks have lap times which are faster than the verified WRs. It's just that those times don't show up when you select "verified world records only" on the Show World Records page.

As for high 25, it must be with the Lotus?

No its not the Lotus, Brabham I think.

Yeah, I'm about 4th or 5th fastest at Sebring in the Mk1 GT40 despite holding official WR at the mo  ;D
And I recon I only just managed that too! Very close to 4 wheels over the line in places  :ninja:

By the request of Tom and for anyone wishing to see how H managed such a quick time at this circuit  ;D, I've uploaded the S17 Race at Jarama http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KOIWQV1Y (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KOIWQV1Y).

I'd forgotten how action packed that event was, here's hoping the race this weekend will produce another dramatic finish  :).

Hehe, let's give this one a go, connection permitting. I have a feeling I'll like this place. :)

I had a quick burn in the brab, mostly in 2nd & 3rd gears, track seems to have a low grip surface or summat (or was that the set-up I was using?).  Didn't like it too much, reckon the race will be total carnage with few finishers.  Pleased we had Kyalami though, even if I arsed it up!

Don't think I'll be breaking the piggy bank on a Lotus for this one.

Bob

Watching that replay got to question the amount of track abuse used by the Wazas  ::)

Apart from that it seemed to be a Waza V Whale fest

Looking at my own efforts, they were pretty pathetic  :-[

Hope I can do a better race this time, but have to admit this track has got me beat  :'(

Many thanks Sam! Gonna watch it now :) .

Tommie.

It was very interesting to watch the replay. It seems a tiny mistake can have a big impact on your lap time so I hope to stay consistant throughout.

Tom.

OK - I've watched the replay and apart from having to double check if I had fast forward on ;) it made me sea-sick. Amazed at the speed some of you guys carry into the corners - I just can't stop it from spinning if I go in that hot. Respect.

I had a WR for Nurburgring in the Coop for a few years till I deleted it  :D

Some stupid time that was obviously impossible,  but my CV looked great  ;D

I had forgotten just how much I detest this circuit!!  :-\ :-[ :scared:

The best way around this circuit, is to frequently use your mirrors.  That way, you'll be looking ahead! :P

I'm struggling to get below 1m27s   ;D

I did some practice and I must say a lot of it depends on car setup. I mean, a lot more than usual. It appears that if your car has even a moderate degree of understeer on corner entry and in the middle of the corner, it leads to much slower lap times, and also makes the car very snappy on the exits as you try to make it turn while stepping onto the throttle, especially in those corners where the altitude and camber changes as if you're coming out from a bowl.

Finally I begin to understand this track...a little, IMO is just as difficult as Nurburg. ::)
With the 12th setup (taken from Nurburg) began times to go down, but are still struggling to keep the temp down on the rear.  :-\
Ferrari: 1:27.7 is the best I can...yet, but it should have been better  >:(
It is server replay I have cut out & can be seen here: (I look forward to the time being hit on server) ;)
http://www.gt-legends.eu/GPL/Replays/Jarama/PB_Jarama_1_27_7.zip (http://www.gt-legends.eu/GPL/Replays/Jarama/PB_Jarama_1_27_7.zip)

Sry Tom...but after 2 race in Honda & Ferrari now at Jarama, I must take a rest break in an Eagle at Monza  ;D

Just so you can understand the gulf -people are grumbling that they can't get below 1:27 - I can't do better than a 1:45 and after six laps I had to stop because I got a violent bout of motion sickness! I know I am not being brave enough about what is possible and so the tyres aren't warming up so there is no grip so I am being cautious etc etc - Catch 1:45 you could say.

Tough tough tough.

Wow 1:27.7 is fast. I got the Cooper down to 1:28.1 but that's about it for me I think. Will be interesting to see what the others do.

Tom.

I'm in the 30's and staying there, doubt I'll get any more than that.  See you all at T1  :-*

After a quick practice last night, I'm finding it very difficult to find an ideal setup for the Brabham. The nose keeps on understeering and the back end gets very nervous whenever I try to put the power down. It the moment, my best time is a 1:30 dead, a few tenths off my time in the BRM  :(. This is going to be long race!

I have a good proven Brabham setup in my pack. It won me a league race in oAo and with that, the title. From memories, it was very consistent over the race distance, so give it a go if you want.

I can only see Honda setups for Jarama in your pack Hristo, that Brabham setup would be very useful if its available?

I would need that one too...

Hmm, OK, I'll look for them in my old GPL folder and update the pack if I find them. It's been 3 and a half years since I had that race...

EDIT: OK, found the setups and added them to the pack. Also added my current Honda qualifying setup. I'll try to do a guide tomorrow, but it's probably going to have a replay lap recorded rather than live driving. I find it very difficult to do a fast lap of this track while recording and having the steering wheel visual turned on (I have it turned off normally).

Thanks Hristo, much appreciated. Good luck with it as well Fabio.

Is this really a kart track- it's tight enough!
Just had 20 laps practice, the best being 1:35. Lots of broadsliding into those tightening corners and wild fishtailing coming out [need more clutches!]. But it seems to be quickest, smooth doesn't work here for me. 10 secs a lap behind the fast boys means being lapped after 8 1/2 laps ?. Good job we have our Private[er]s slot.

I find that my fastest times come from very neat, very tidy laps, without going too wide, but carrying a lot of speed into corners and accelerating early. A very difficult thing to achieve, but mandatory for the race to avoid cooking the tires. Even 1 or 2 bigger slides seem to eventually lead to bad overheating at the rears, especially on the left side. That said, I have to make my setup quite responsive (aka loose) to produce a fast time, so it becomes a matter of controlling the available "looseness" and only using it in some corners where you benefit from it.

Very challenging track & I can't see me finishing without a few trips to the scenery.

Fairly happy with my BT24 set up which is behaving quite nicely but due to my limited ability is around the 1.35 mark. Happy to share this if anyone is interested - send me an e-mail address by PM.

 

I would try it as well: PM sent
Thx in advance Billy

Thx H,
I will try it ASAP!

Uploaded a lap, now writing the guide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo56Jb4ZLjk

Will update this post later when the guide's done.

Here it is! GPL Track Guide and Onboard Lap of Jarama (http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/mastering-jarama-in-honda-ra300-onboard-lap-track-guide-replay-and-setup/)

Think there is one we know at this link  ;)
http://1967legends.rscsites.org/gplranktimes.php (http://1967legends.rscsites.org/gplranktimes.php)

LOL, I must've forgotten that.

Fantastic lap Hristo , do you have one played at normal speed  ;D and where did you get the asphalt from ? track looks 10X better  than original  :)

Thanks, Bernie, I don't think I'll ever repeat that lap, it was spot on in almost every corner!

And yeah, I use an update, but I'm not sure which one it is, it was long ago since I installed it. Here's a thread with some Jarama updates that I just found, the one I use is probably one of those, at least in regard to the asphalt:

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5013

Hearding the word "Jarama", still after 30 years, my mind goes to HIS last F1 win: 67 leading laps in front of 4 "mad dogs" with better handling cars than HIS Ferrari, without doing any mistake.

One of the most exciting (...and longest) race I've ever watched!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVyLEM-0wE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVyLEM-0wE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMbZ9noibxQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMbZ9noibxQ&feature=related)
This one has a better quality but it's in Italian language

Wow, he had to handle enourmous pressure throughout the whole race! Got to find a longer video of this.

I'm reminded why I detest the Honda, and whilst in theory this circuit with enough laps should suit my style I could not get the damn thing up to speed. So to find Hristo a full 5 seconds up the road in qualifying was rather galling, and the driving on laps 1-3 could be better quite frankly.

JW you were at 1:31 in Q! Geez if only!

Anyway, there was absolutely no point in me carrying on and acting as a mobile chicane when half the field had lapped by 10 laps in.  It goes against my principle of don't quit a race, but that was just clearly ridiculous to carry on.  :(

If I'm honest Steve I decided not to participate. A lack of any track time with a demanding circuit in the Works would have just placed me as a liability. I'll be back for Monza though.

An eventful race. I found my self up from 5th to 2nd by L2 thanks to a couple of incidents ahead with Martin hard on my heels. A spin and an encounter with a fence put me back down the field in 8th behind Bernie who seemed to run a bit wide on L4 so I tried to sneak through but we touched and I bounced over the armco landing intact but facing the wrong way. Rather than doing a shiftR, I drove back along the verge until a gap in the Armco appeared. Unfortunately in doing so I incurred the wrath of the stewards and for the rest of the race saw only the DQ board. Consequently for the rest of the race I'd no idea what place I was in or who I was racing. The blue flag was waved whenever another car was in range so I had to guess who were the genuine lappers rather than other drivers on the same lap. To cap it all, the monitor went into power saving mode at one point resulting in another encounter with the fence.
I hope I did the right thing in carrying on - I seem to recall that the advice in a DQ situation is to continue and let those clever mods sort out the final positions.

Can you bung in an incident report about that. We can have a look and reinstate you if needed.

Difficult track to find a good rythm - because you have to constantly brake. I don't race a Billy Nobrakes without good reason!

First tangle was with Bernie through Turn 1 & 2 where Bernie had the inside. I kept pretty much to my line & was amazed when I recovered from a summersault without need to Reset.
Second one about lap 28 Fabio was closing to lap me - I thought I'd enought time to clear turn 2 to leave him room to pass but we came together after turn 1.
Finally - after several scaps with Hannah, on the last lap I span. I was sure he would pass me but seemed he went for some synchronised spinning  instead. We both recovered heading for the corner & I got there slighly in front. Could be a double bad rejoin but maybe they cancelled each other out?
Leave it for you chaps if you want to report any of the above incidents.
Glad to finish in one piece & quite entertaining - look forward to Monza.


 

YUCK.

Kept going just in case of a mass disco and my first win...

Did get a PB - 1:45. Managed to spin at least once on EVERY corner lol.

Gave me a LOT of practice being lapped and several times I just parked up to let the field by, I was that bad.

If we never go to Jarama again it will be too soon. Roll on Monza.

PS Hope I didn't get in anyone's way. Sorry if I did.

Jarama, my first encounter with it & I was hoping it would be my last...but it was an incredibly fun race, thx to all  ;D
I made one mistake after another since I came on the server, threw myself into qual & got a new PB fairly quickly 1:27.02. No more qual for me (could probably not do it better) & would switch to the race setup & warm up, but discovers the setup I used in qual was a race setup for 19 laps :laugh:
My race setup was for 39 laps, but it was scary  :o...had almost no control over the car until the tires were warmed up after about a lap. Do not know quite what went wrong in T1 - sry if I made mistakes - but I need to get the replay to see what went wrong. ;)
I fell far down the field (maybe I was last) but now there is heat in the tires & also in me, but Histro is impossible to obtain, 30 seconds & never got closer, big Grats...too bad I failed at T1, would like to have teased you a little about the first place  8)

My errors does not end after we have run over finish line...did a little too much show & my second place was to -1 lap ARGH
...but no matter where I finish, it was good to finally complete a race...with no engine explosions :D ...& more positively at Jarama, I removed the worst rust, my old shape slowly turns back.
I'm glad it's Monza next time, we were more after the race that took a little test. My goal was when we joined server 1:27.5...& I got 1:27:45 in Eagle.

Help: Where is there a link that works to 'GPL Replays' ?

lol, I did better than Pelle. The test at Monza included fast guys, Pelle, Tom, H. Midfield runners (so a little bird tells me ;)) and me. My aim was for a 1:35 and I got 1:34. Only because H and Tom rode shotgun and gave me a running critique. I thought Jarama was embarrassing but that was something else. I was running the default Honda and the guys were wetting themselves at my lack of pace, inability to turn in, haste to accelerate etc although they were very encouraging. I told Tom he needed to use the Honda as I had it and he went out and did two laps at 1:30 or so! Steve made me feel better by only going 1:32... :(

Thanks to all the guys who helped!

Well, that was embarrassing. With what was quite possibly my worst drive in UKGPL, I finished a dismal 9th, 2 laps down. Truth was I never really got to grips with the Brabham around here, and have found it to be particularly tricky when fat on fuel throughout my races with it. Still, my qualifying time was decent enough but it all came to nought when I spun again and again. At one point I lost the rear and missed Al by the slightest of margins, ploughing straight into the barrier. With all 4 wheels, amazingly, still attached to the car, I soldiered on, lapping a good 3-4 seconds off the pace with a slightly damaged engine. Finally made it to the flag, just ahead of John.

Well, at least I made it to the flag which has occurred far too rarely for my liking this season. Congrats to H, Pelle and Tom. Terrific pace up front.

Hehe Sam. I lost it so many times I was clearly on 'Spin only' setting. Should have chosen 'Synthetics' lol!

Actually don't worry Mike I've had a look and put you back in, seems the server didn't like you being stuck behind that barrier.

Anyway results uploaded and replays will be found in the usual places, any Incident Reports by close of play Friday please. A review of the Privateers shows everyone complied with the single reset rule.
I haven't done the maths but, subject to moderation, it looks like neither Tommie or Bernie are in the clear so it will go down to the final race in both divisions.

Interesting. I didn't disco - but I did spin lol. Not sure why it shows disco as I limped past the chequered flag but it makes no difference. 6 points one way or the other. Need 20 at Monza for the century. Maybe  :-\

More importantly, Ronnie needs a win but Bernie can take it if he comes second, whatever Ronnie does. If Ronnie wins and Bernie is third or worse, its Ronnie's. I will be reasonably competetive at Monza and I have nothing to lose so as a very difficult to pass back marker, I will await stuffed envelopes from either of them  ;)

Good luck to both of them, they have been a class apart.

@ Pelle

If its the UKGPL replays you are talking about, I go through 'rules' top of this thread, and then pick replays from the options on the left of next screen. The link 'replays' has never worked for me either, wonder if thats the same for everybody..

This was a track, waiting for action.  It became the stage for some of the closest racing all Season, with some tremendous racing spirit being shown by all amongst us. 8)

I arrived with 2 cars - the Honda was easy to drive, but the tyres would overheat at the slightest mistake.  The Cooper was more work, but more forgiving, and the right choice, given the frantic nature of the race.

We were tightly packed heading into the 1st turn, with Bernie bouncing off my rear wheel, and subsequently loosing a motor.  I recovered close behind Michael, while Ronnie and Fabio made their escape. :(

It soon became a 2 man race, with Ronnie always able to match my pace.  The gap was never less than 5 seconds, and never more than 10.  It was an amazing game of cat and mouse, but the leader eked it out, in the end.

A brilliant choice of track, with probably a Seasons worth of work for our Moderator, but a real achievement for all Privateers who finished.  So, the title goes down to the wire, with 2 worthy champions, and a chasing field of worthy racers. ;)

I couldn't quite repeat my times from pre-race practice runs, but still managed to take Paul after Pelle messing up his fuel loads (for which I'm thankful!) on his attempts. My start was good, but Bob in his Lotus rocketed past us all to take the lead going into T1 and although it was quite narrow, we managed to make it through without any contacts.

Bob was quite unstable on cold tires and race fuel, so I managed to close up on him right away, but he had the advantage on the straights and kept pulling away. This was until he had a wobble into the last corner and I took the inside line on the exit, lining up side by side with him. He kept going right for a bit and I thought he's going to hit me, but fortunately that didn't happen.

He pulled away under acceleration towards T1, but I braked later and dived to the inside for a pass, or at least to put some pressure. Bob moved to the middle of the track and that frightened me a bit because I thought he would completely close the door, but there was just enough room to make it through as I went over the curb at the apex and took the lead.

From there on I didn't have much problem pulling away and the gap back to 2nd began to increase steadily by about 2 seconds each lap. By the time Pelle moved up to 2nd and stabilized the gap between us, I had half a minute lead and just had to bring it home.

There were no major issues with backmarkers and I could afford to ease off when necessary to wait for the best opportunity to go through, but some decided to slow down much earlier before I really catch them up and let me by - thanks, I waved in appreciation!

I made two major mistakes during the race - one was an off at T1 which saw me running on the grass on the outside for 2-3 seconds before I could return to the track, and the other was on the exit of the last corner when I hit the armco, but luckily not too hard and without any noticeably consequences.

By my calculations and if we take a decent amount of points at Monza, I'll drop 3 points as my 2nd worst result and Tom's going to drop 15, so the actual gap between is ATM is 3 points. This means that whoever finishes in front of the other at Monza is going to be crowned Champ, so it should be an exciting race! I'm almost tempted to take a faster car since I have 66 tokens (!), but that wouldn't be right, would it?  ;D

-=Hristo=-

I have to say I really enjoyed the challenge of this track. I knew I had good speed and qualifying resulted in pole position. Howvere, my pre race fears of blowing the engine led to a rather safe start and a faster starting Fabio got to the first corner ahead of me. Having looked at the replay thanks go to Bernie for not rear ending me due to my slower get off the line. On lap two Fabio clipped a curve and left a gap down the inside to the following right hairpin. I needed no second invitation and took the inside. what followed was for me a racing incident with me recovering first to take the lead. Sorry Fabio. I'm not planning on reporting this myself, however, if Fabio and/or the mods wish to take a look please do. If only to let Bernie know if he is even closer to that title I'm trying to steal from him. Big thank you to Martin who kept me honest throughout the race and finished ahead of a fast recovering Bernie who put in another excellent drive himself. I had anticipated that lapping backmarkers would be tricky at this circuit this proved not to be the case with great behaviour from the other drivers. The downside of this was Martin was not being held up and when I had a slight misunderstanding with Fabio on lap 30 I think, I half expected Martin to come flying past. I got away with it and was relieved to see the chequered flag a few laps later. I know a lot of people will be glad to see the back of this one but I look forward to coming back. I think a 65 race here could be brilliant.  Thanks for the championship maths Paul but no envelopes are in the post I'm afraid. I expect everyone will want to finish the season on a high anyway. Whatever the outcome Monza will be a fitting end to a great season.

Thx, yes 'REPLAYS' link open for a 'OpenDNS' site ? I use Win7 x64 Explorer 9, later I sought more in this forum & found a second page with Replays, but only from UKGTL - GTR2, Race07 & more, no GPL  :(

Now I had seen the replay & got my memory freshened up & could see what went wrong. I was somewhat surprised by a Lotus got a gun start, trying to defend my position & comes too close to Histro...brake/turn at the same time should go wrong on cold tyres, but I did say 'hey' to everyone in the race who ran past me...unfortunately, my second place was the last place already in the T1  :o

Edit: YEAH, realize now I took second place - Thx - whatever I was doing too much show after the race ;D 41 point...YES
More Edit: Championship standing between Tom & Hristo...& if if & if it goes the same way from Jarama at Monza I am in a terrible situation, I will have influence on who will be Champ  :o ...fortunately, anything can happen in the race.
Edit again: Detects in Histro's post that there are several things that come into play with points...imagine if the rule was still working in F1, drop your lowest results away  ;)
Monza is more fun in the Ferrari, Eagle & Lotus...Hrisro you are facing a very difficult choice  :-\

Just run your own race and don't worry about our scrap with Tom.  :)

Yes, you're right Hristo...we must run our own race on the track, not in Forum  ;)

Edit: Spelling errors

I was looking forward to giving Ronnie some pressure in this race , escpecially after finding a good race set up also changing the asphalt from dark to light made a big improvement to the track for me.

Race day was quite a different story , qually was poor , always seemed to get caught in traffic on what should have been "flyers" , couldnt get anywhere near my practise times or find any form , my brain didnt seem to be fully in control of my arms and feet (pretty essential items for racing ) probably due to me being worn out from a hectic day out with the Grandkids .

Made one of my better starts only to find Ronnie (actually thought it was Fabio ) almost stationary in front , went up the inside , thought i might squeeze past then thought better of it , dropped back to the outside and was following Fabio through the corner ( right car this time ) but then Martin decided he wanted the same gap I was aiming for , kept to my  line , we touched , (just a kiss really wuv ) but GPL decided it was a good idea to deploy Exoset mode and my Brabby exploded in flames . (think there may have been some warp assistance with Martin , his car dances around like crazy whenever I follow him ) .

After the compusory SR & PI  were performed I duly set off in persuit but couldnt settle into my race form or any kind of rythm , to many errors of judgement 3 or 4 spins 1 argument with the armco at  the downhill hairpin plus a contratempts with my own Team mate Mike when I was shadowing Hannah and deciding which way to get past him in one piece , Mike decided it was his turn to pass and made a move up my inside , I didnt see him and turned in , we collided , somehow launching Mike over the barrier (sorry for that buddy) a least we were both able to continue .
Didn't see anything of the Mike and Ronnie show they were well down the road , pity I couldnt join the fun as I think this is a great track for racing and a good performance leveler.
Altogether a pretty poor show and not sure what the mods will think about my escapades .

Congrats to all those who struggled through to the end and thanks a bunch to the back markers for behaving appropriatly .

Cya all soon at Monza  ;)

  

Well, last Sunday it wasn't my night... :-\
Ronnie took a fantastic lap and it secured his pole position whil I had some trouble with slowest drivers and I wasn't even able to be close to my fresh PB.
Anyway, my lap time was fast enough to start from second place.

I had a really good start, at least compared with Ronnie's one, so I was immediately on the lead!
Unfortunately I start pushing to early at the beginning of lap two and I went wide on T3.
During the race I didn't realise that, on T4, I left an open door to Ronnie and that he tried to pass me on the inside: I simply closed the turn and we crashed together... I immediately watched the replay after the race and I guess it was a simple race accident: anyway it's up to mods to check it, Ronnie, I'm only a driver... ;)

I was really angry after it and because of this my race was plenty of errors (I guess I hit one ord two drivers when lapping them...) and my cars was damaged but I was able to finish in 4th place.

OK, let's see you all at Monza, my home track, for the Grand Finale of such a fantastic Privateers season!

Cheers

fL

Moderation now published

Not to take away anything from Pelle's excellent driving and second place finish, but seeing the scoring and everything after the penalties are applied, I'm shown as 3rd, 54.4 seconds behind Hristo. But Pelle is shown 2nd, 54.6 seconds behind Hristo. Does this mean I've been awarded second place or is there an error in the timing?

Tommie.

Something seems to have gone wrong in that the time penalty should have moved you to second. I'm looking into it.

Now fixed. All to do with Gpg running an old version of GPLRA so we haven't been using the HTML imports. Don't worry about that it's fixed...