Title: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on February 20, 2011, 06:45:27 PM +0000
Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKiR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) before joining - particularly those concerning general conduct and in-game chat messages (1) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=289&theme=33) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on February 28, 2011, 10:10:22 AM +0000 OK, so what times are people doing?
Is it worth me starting a practice session tonight? Paul :) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: GizMoTo on February 28, 2011, 10:35:33 AM +0000 not done a single lap yet ::) i best see if I can find a set-up and get some laps in today sometime ....never driven this car round this track before :-\
so if there a server up I'll be there ;) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on February 28, 2011, 01:10:11 PM +0000 OK, so what times are people doing? Here (http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=3076376&custid=16718)'s my session results from the official race I did a few weeks back. I won't need much practice as it's all still fresh in my mind. My best lap in the race was 0.5 faster than my best lap in qualifying! Average lap time for me was 1:13.385 and fastest lap was 1:12.257. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on February 28, 2011, 02:56:06 PM +0000 not done a single lap yet ::) i best see if I can find a set-up and get some laps in today sometime ....never driven this car round this track before :-\ Good, not just me then. :) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: BorchersDK on February 28, 2011, 04:56:27 PM +0000 Havent practised either, but Im still warm from the races in the iRacing series.
Here are the results of the my last race: http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=3089045&custid=18130 Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on February 28, 2011, 07:28:18 PM +0000 My apologies, a bit late with the practice session but it's coming up now.
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on February 28, 2011, 08:17:32 PM +0000 I called it the wrong thing but it is the Dallara and Mid Ohio.
All a bit rushed tonight. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Burtoner on February 28, 2011, 08:55:11 PM +0000 Cant wait for this race im doing high 11s to mid 11s at moment, personal best 1:11.450, got an old setup that needs a bit of tinkering but all good :)
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: GizMoTo on March 01, 2011, 12:20:07 AM +0000 sorry couldn't make practice after all .....bloody real life butting into my fun time :laugh:
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on March 01, 2011, 09:39:56 AM +0000 34 laps chaps.
Come on guys, let's get a decent number of cars this week. Mike and Rob both gave me setups last night and there are more available from the main forum as the Dallara raced here a couple of weeks ago. http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1451954.page Paul :) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: purdie on March 01, 2011, 12:56:09 PM +0000 sorry couldn't make practice after all .....bloody real life butting into my fun time :laugh: ditto ::) will be back home from 6 onwards so plan to practise all evening! Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Gazza49er on March 01, 2011, 02:13:16 PM +0000 Dont think im gunna make this one :(
If i do get home in time i will try. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: GizMoTo on March 01, 2011, 05:03:34 PM +0000 finally got some laps in ...I'll be trundling around at the back this week :-\ some tricky corners in this car ...should have done more practice :-\
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Burtoner on March 01, 2011, 05:18:07 PM +0000 doh going to miss this out for meal tonight ffs >:(
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Blunder on March 01, 2011, 06:08:29 PM +0000 Server will be up in a couple of mins guys...
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Blunder on March 01, 2011, 06:25:07 PM +0000 Session started! Have fun! :)
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: BorchersDK on March 01, 2011, 09:36:32 PM +0000 Im sorry for my sudden exit, could have been a great race for the podium positions. But it just wasnt my day to day. Got home way late from work, so I missed my planned preperation, and had only 15 min of practise. Was very stressed, tired, frustrated and a tad angry, so not the ideal state of mind to be in, but I tried. In the race I just couldnt keep focus, my mind constantly drifted of, which caused me to mis my lines and braking points, wich made me even more frustrated and angry. Never ending spiral, which resultet in a spin before the pit entry, so went for a unplanned early pitstop. Managed to overfill the tank plus my limiter wasnt working (maybe) - cought that quick enough, and well tried again. Some laps later I spun in the same spot again, and now everything within reach was in great danger of being smashed against the wall. Quit and shut the PC down while it was raining fire and brimstone in my apartment :).
Ugh that annoys me. I love the Indycars around Mid Ohio. Is my favorite combo, and I can normally run this track like clockwork, but tonight it was all to much :-\. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on March 01, 2011, 09:54:15 PM +0000 Woo, great race. That car track combo is just awesome it's a shame more don't try it, but I had a close race anyway.
Managed to nick pole by a tiny margin from Mike and as the pace car headed in I stayed in the lead from pole to settle down with Mike and Karsten doing the same behind me. First half was amazingly close with the top 3 so even until Karsten's accident. Still, that left Mike and me to duke it out, never more than 2 seconds apart. With him tailing me for the first half I knew he try something in the pits to get ahead. Sure enough he elected to not change tyres and came out 2 seconds ahead. I soon closed that down and followed him like a wad of blu-tac for a number of laps. With 4 to go I was praying for a mistake, but in the end I got really brave on the brakes to close up to inches behind Mike and then divebombed from inches behind at the end of the long straight to take the lead back and cruise home for my first win of the season. Thanks for hosting. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Mike Wrightson on March 01, 2011, 10:21:52 PM +0000 Great race :D
Just lost out in Q to Shark, but with Karsten behind me, I was still in a strong position for the championship result. Nice clean start with the top 3 circulating closely until Karsten suddenly disappeared. Meanwhile I wasn't making much impression on Shark and it looked like my oly chance of passing him would be in the pits. Since Karsten was out, I had little to lose and didn't change tyres. I went 2 laps longer than Shark and got out ahead of him! I checked the fuel box and had a giggle as I'd put in about twice as much as I needed to finish. That much weight on worn tyres wasn't going too well, and all I could do was keep hitting the apexes and see if I could keep Shark behind, but inevitably he got a good run down the back straight and I didn't fight the pass. Second is good :) Congrats Shark and Ian for the podium! Bad luck Karsten, that's pretty much how I was feeling last sunday :( Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: GizMoTo on March 02, 2011, 12:08:27 AM +0000 personal best in qualifying by near .5 of a second so I was well happy with that considering all the practice i had done before joining the server was 6 laps before tea time race evening ::)
went into the race just hoping for a full race finish saw my closest competition for the race as being Paul we had been close on times in practice but he was a chunk faster in qualy so my plan was to stay as close on his tail as possible and see IF I could take me but keeping it clear in my mind I had to finish no matter what and with as clean an incident tally as possible first few laps things went to plan until I saw this big cloud of smoke just in front could only mean Paul was having a moment so I eased off as he was just over the crest of the right hander turn 9 ? wasn't sure where his car would be tons of smoke nothing very visible luckily I had room and time to avoid him ;) so my plan changed to keep him behind me ;) don't know what happened but shortly after he dropped well back I assume another off ? this left me comfy in 4th place so it was settle down and keep things clean just as i was thinking of when to pit Karsten did his stop so i thought mmmmm I'll stay out a bit longer see how the gap closes ......and i was trying to work out if i could risk no tires and a splash of fuel and tray and been at least on his tail after the pit-stop and see what happens just as i was planning on doing the stop Karsten vanished from the F3 window ? this left me with no rush to do anything and still take 3rd place so did a few more laps untill Simon did his stop and came out just in front of me so to avoid any risk of being silly and trying to race him I pitted took on rubber and some fuel ::) talk about over estimate I ended up with enough fuel to do near another full race ;D ;D rest of the race i did relaxed and ended up doing what i shouldn't do in a race ..............try a different line round a corner ..........paid for it ended up blotting my so far clean {incident wise} race >:( stupid fool luckily it was a harmless cross grass effort :) so not only did I finish the race I only had 1 incident against me and to top it all I got on the podium again {getting into a habit these days } :o ::) well done Simon and Mike for the 1,2, there was no way I could even dream of your speeds ;) shame not many are turning up at the moment BUT I'm enjoying the podium steps due to it ;) ;D ;D ;D catch ya all next time guys :) :thumbup2: Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on March 02, 2011, 06:43:44 AM +0000 I hadn't done a lot of practice either but I knew mid Ohio from the official Rad race there a couple of weeks ago but I seemed to get up to speed pretty quickly. A 1:10 in qually was a surprise though.
At the start I tried to sneak past Karsten into the final turn but he was wise to it and I slotted in behind. I soon settled down in a little hole a second or so between Karsten and Ian til about lap 8 when I screwed up the right hander over the hill. Usual thing, too much power too early. That turned into a perfect 360 and I only lost one place. Problem was that I wasn't going as quickly round the following left hander as usual so third gear was too high and I lost the rear end. Brendan had nowhere to go and hit me. That actually straightened me up and I was going straight away, Brendan 5 or 6 seconds back. I noticed Andy was stopping so I'm guessing he got caught up in it too and spent the rest of the race feeling guilty that I'd taken a quarter of the field out in one corner. :-[ I'd fuelled long on the basis that this is a low fuel track and there was a small chance I'd get there on one tank. If not then I'd set it up for a splash and dash without tyres. That all went out the window when the rear end snapped out round T1. In putting on opposite lock I smacked my left elbow a good one on the side of the race frame giving me no chance of saving it and I hit the wall hard. The tow took over two minutes because I was only just past the pits. It topped up my fuel so I set off to finish the race without a further stop but by then I was already two laps down. I settled down after that and got to the finish only a lap down due to other people's stops. I did unlap myself from Brendan but there was never a chance I'd catch him for 4th, even with his stop. Congratulations to Mike, Simon and Ian who all drove beautifully. I'm starting to believer that league racing is dying. We blame the choice of tracks but which tracks should we be using? When I chose the tracks I looked at which ones people turned up for in previous SRO series, these were the more popular ones! The iRacing league structure is beginning to work as designed now and people are concentrating on that more and more. I for one aren't going to do extra practice to race in a single figure grid. Even the endurance series is losing people and that's at prime time on a Sunday. It's not for want of trying. Maybe I could have advertised it more on the main forum but I have limited time. I've PM'ed people inviting them and never miss an opportunity to try and bring new people in. The net result? Zero. Not one new person has arrived. I'll carry on for the rest of this season but after that I'm going to concentrate on the main leagues. Paul Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2011, 08:32:28 AM +0000 I'm starting to believer that league racing is dying. We blame the choice of tracks but which tracks should we be using? When I chose the tracks I looked at which ones people turned up for in previous SRO series, these were the more popular ones! It's nothing to do with the tracks and never has been and never will be. I think the Endurance series has dropped through perfectly normal drop-offs. Even when we got grids of 28 for GTR2 at the start of the season by half way that was normally 22 at most and then by the end it's dropped below 20. As far as the Tuesday night series goes we've always had problems filling Tuesday night grids and drop-off has generally been worse for weeknight racing. I agree with you that there is no point in running a series for so few people so it's not worth doing another iRacing tuesday night series imho. I'm not convinced the public series is the reason any of this has happened. You only have to look at the number of people doing hosted racing sessions on Sunday nights to see how well leagues are doing on a Sunday night. For me personally I can't say that I'm that compelled by the public stuff still. I mainly do it for participation bonus. Two road races in the current 2011 season is all I've bothered with so far. With the IndyCar having 4 series in public this season there is more to do, but again being able to sit there refreshing the browser everynight in the hope of a race is such a ridiculous chore and is the single biggest reason I prefer league racing (you know when it's going to happen and what you will be driving). Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 02, 2011, 08:34:51 AM +0000 Results up - congratulations to Team Shark who've already sealed the team championship. ;D
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2011, 08:36:12 AM +0000 Results up - congratulations to Team Shark who've already sealed the team championship. ;D Hoorah! Unfortunately due to the dropped score I'm not actually leading the drivers championship (yet ;)). :laugh: Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Blunder on March 02, 2011, 08:47:00 AM +0000 Sorry guys,
Was on the practice server last night on my own for a while until Rob, joined... It then looked like I was 3 seconds off his pace and the difficulty of the track was only gonna result in one thing... me hot lapping at the back, a few minor spins along the way. Seeing only 5 registered drivers at 8pm supported my assumptions so gave it a miss. Sorry guys, I want to support our races but the turnout is getting very low :( Oh, and I don't have the talent to compete ;) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2011, 09:00:47 AM +0000 I think the problem was getting only 12 for the first race put people into the mindset that it was a low turnout series and to not bother.
With Martin's comment, the problem is once one driver starts doing that, the drivers that would normally race with that person might then think the same thing and you end up with nobody joining. Martins not there so I'll have no one to race so I won't bother. You have to be brave. I was 2 seconds off the pace before I joined. My fastest lap before last night was 1:12.1. I managed a 1:10.2. Same setup as before too. I'm not sure where I got the speed from but I did. I'm sure running at FF level 2 is helping a lot though! 102%, 0%, 0% in control panel, 2 FF in game for the IndyCar. 1 FF for ovals. G25. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Blunder on March 02, 2011, 09:59:55 AM +0000 Sorry, don't want to start the flood, just want to highlight it so we can try and encourage everyone else to turnup!? :(
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Gazza49er on March 02, 2011, 10:08:18 AM +0000 Really sorry i missed this, tuesdays have been a problem for me lately.
Ive just noticed i dont have the last two tracks aswell so bit gutted to have only done the two races as i really enjoyed them. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: picnic on March 02, 2011, 10:39:01 AM +0000 Oh, and I don't have the talent to compete ;) Sadly I'm in the same boat (well it might as well have been) There are some tracks I just can't get consistent at and this is one. Doesn't matter what the car is I'm many seconds off the pace and can't even maintain that without frequent excursions off track. Sadly some of us enjoy this but some times lack of talent means a no show if better for everyone. I hope to make the race in 2 weeks @ Barber Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on March 02, 2011, 01:36:46 PM +0000 Really sorry i missed this, tuesdays have been a problem for me lately. Buy them then. Barber's one of the best tracks in the sim. :)Ive just noticed i dont have the last two tracks aswell so bit gutted to have only done the two races as i really enjoyed them. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Blunder on March 02, 2011, 01:37:26 PM +0000 Really sorry i missed this, tuesdays have been a problem for me lately. Buy them then. Barber's one of the best tracks in the sim. :)Ive just noticed i dont have the last two tracks aswell so bit gutted to have only done the two races as i really enjoyed them. Seconded! It is! ;D Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Robin Durrant on March 02, 2011, 01:59:20 PM +0000 I will be back for Barber. Not a great addition I know but it's 1 more car on the grid and another for you all to beat!
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on March 02, 2011, 03:02:55 PM +0000 I will be back for Barber. Not a great addition I know but it's 1 more car on the grid and another for you all to beat! You'd have beaten me last night.Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Robin Durrant on March 02, 2011, 03:43:26 PM +0000 Were you not racing Paul? :laugh:
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Paul Thurston on March 02, 2011, 03:50:11 PM +0000 Were you not racing Paul? :laugh: Only the clock by the end. ;)Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: purdie on March 02, 2011, 05:31:19 PM +0000 I noticed Andy was stopping so I'm guessing he got caught up in it too and spent the rest of the race feeling guilty that I'd taken a quarter of the field out in one corner. :-[ No worries Paul, I think I clipped your car (definitely somebody's) and I spun in T1 half a lap later because of the damage. Tried hobbling round but after being the slowest anyway it didn't look good, should have fast-towed but copped-out ::) Shame about the attendance.... the tracks are good and the car is amazing but I think its peoples life's that are getting in the way (like Paul R and Darren in the Legends Team for example) Wish i had more than one hours practise for this track! :) Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: BorchersDK on March 02, 2011, 05:57:31 PM +0000 I think the reason for low turnouts and high drop offs, is because we have to many cars, tracks, sims etc. to choose from. We are spoiled.
And with that many options, practise time is limited for many, so they have to choose, and choose which ever they feel best for. Sim, track/car combo etc. Even in the iRacing series turnouts are limited, especially in the higher license races, and there are plenty of members/drivers. I dont have any experience with sunday races in UK, but maybe its also a case of choosing family, friends, hangover maintenance over racing? Granted, the IndyCar races are on tuesdays, and I think the entrylist consists of drivers that also race in the Endurace series? Maybe its a question of combining all the popular cars in two series? Riley, Radical and Vette in one, and Mustang, Mazda and Jetta (or Solstice) in another? And then run them every other sunday, or some other weekday, incase iRacing SOF races (or family) steal to many entries. That gives a full week of practise for each, for those that want to attend both. I dunno, just guessing. But its sad to see the low turnouts, when we have had some great turnouts and races earlier in the season. Oh, and Im defenetly back for Barber and Infineon too. Great tracks. Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: BorchersDK on March 20, 2011, 10:23:15 AM +0000 I will just continue in this thread, since we started it here.
Regarding the low turnouts. It seems its not only here, but also on iRacing itself. I was expecting so much from the Premier Indycar series, but the turnout was very disapointing. 117 different drivers entered the Laguna Seca race Of those, 48 drivers entered more than 1 race. The highest attendance was at 19.30 GMT, and that was only 36 drivers. iRacing has what, 20.000 paying members? Of these maybe 12-15.000 race regulary? The usual online count in weekends in peak hours is around 3.000. Yet, only 117 enter something that was supposed to be a premier series. I was expecting atleast twice that amount. Maybe Im just naive (didnt check how many entered the oval races). Is it the difficulty level I wonder, because it would need a lot of practise time. So it isnt something you just do, it requires commitment, wich it turn means some sacrifice. And its not just the IndyCars, its basicly all roadcourse based series from License C and up. Add to that the aliens, untouchable lap times. Does that scare to many people of maybe. Do they think they have to meet that standard, or even to be within 3 seconds or something, to not be embarrassed? It really puzzles me. P.s. This is not targeted at anyone, its just a general thing Im desperately trying to understand :). Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: GizMoTo on March 20, 2011, 11:45:30 AM +0000 the Premier series stuff I've not bothered looking into I know I'm not good enough, little point bothering just to be moaned at by the "aliens" for even bothering to turn up ::) ;D
Title: Re: iRacing Season 5 IndyCar Championship - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Mar 1 Post by: Simon Gymer on March 21, 2011, 08:44:05 AM +0000 I wasn't around on Saturday to do the race, otherwise I would have done.
Premier series isn't for aliens, it's for everyone. The only reason they've given it another name from the main series is cause there is some money to win, but for 99% of the members at iRacing who know they are never going to win any money it's just another series. Can't say I've experienced the look down on you attitude in the IndyCar road series. Ovals series yes, but for the most part the IndyCar series is pretty clean because people know one bit of contact and that's likely to be race over. It's like all the racing though, if you want to race clean you have to assume everyone is a lunatic and give them plenty of room and then not overdrive yourself. I really think they've made a mistake having 4 IndyCar series this season as it was not a well attended car when it was just 1 series. It's also a continuing mistake to only do races every other day because instead of having the effect of compressing the drivers together into fewer races, all they actually do is make it harder for people to get a race because there is less chance of having a race on a night you are free. |