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Title: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: vosblod on February 28, 2011, 09:30:56 PM +0000
And now, the end is here, and so we face the final curtain. Yes it's the grand finale of the grads at Monza. I haven't done the maths but it looks like the title decider in both the Privateers and Works so best of luck.

We are running two separate grids for Works and Privateers drivers this season. The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 06-03-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Monza
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 33)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : original Papy track
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2803 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2803)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Kinghiro (R)     
Evil Clive   
Hristo   
Tim FMG   
Steve Bird       
John Roberts 
Al Heller   
Vosblod   
Jethro   
Sam B   
Bartosz (Pod)   
Baab (R)   
Beefpie (R)   
Rick N (R)   
JHalli (R)   
Fulvio P (R)   
Tommie van O (R)   
EasternSun (R)   
Pelle_B (R)   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie     
Burtoner   
Mike Turner   
Billy Nobrakes   
Bookie W     
Nigel Smith   
Fabio (Il Lupo)   
Ronnie Peterson       
Paul Badblood   
Martin Maddog (R)   
Ross Gilles27 (R)   
Hannah (R)   
Nicky I (R)   
Happy Al (R)   
  D-Rock (R) 
Toni Niemi (R)   
   
   

EasternSun (R) - sub-division to be decided upon

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

REPLAYS
Privateers server replays will be posted in the usual place after the event. Works will now be posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ (http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/) . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.

Built in Villa Reale park north of Monza and officially opened on 3 September 1922. The 1933 race was marked by the deaths of three drivers and the Grand Prix layout was changed, with two chicanes added and the longer straights removed. The first grand prix after WW2 was held on 17 October 1948. The high speed bank‌ing was added in 1954. 1961 had a fatal accident, with Wolfgang von Trips and fourteen spectators dying near the Parabolica. Despite the fact that the bankings were not involved in that accident, F1 never raced on the oval again (except in the film Grand Prix made in 1966). The 1000 km Monza staged the last event on the banking in 1969. Various 'safety' measures were introduced in subsequent years with additional chicanes and run off areas.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 09:55:05 AM +0000
This is one of my favourite circuits - it was the first track I drove and the one I learnt on. Having been the moving chicane all season I am hoping for a better race here and possibly seeing some other drivers! I have improved my lap times in the Honda markedly and have tweaked the setup and gearing which has shaved 3 seconds off my PB. I was feeling quite proud of myself until I looked at previous seasons results!

One thing I cannot explain is that my tyres just do not heat up - is that because I am being too cautious? Best of 1:33.5 is going to put me last again but never mind, that is a massive personal improvement and I have lapped consistently between 1:34-5 which is also a massive improvement. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 01, 2011, 09:57:42 AM +0000
Yes, you need to drive close to the limit of grip to heat up the tires and you need to do that at each corner, otherwise they cool off. I wish I had your problem, mine is dealing with overheating which is quite bad here, especially because of Curva Grande.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 10:27:40 AM +0000
You can afford to slow down! I am still at the stage of exploring where the grip goes off and trying to drive on that fine line. I am braking too early for Lesmo 1 and 2 and losing time as a result but every time I try to puish it a bit further up the road I end up in the armco. I am also probably losing time at T1 but I have improved my sector 1 times by about 1.5 seconds through practice.

In terms of gearing, I have tried something agressive and found that I was spinning so I think I have found a happy medium. I am doing about 186 before Parabolica and about 172 through Ascari with foot flat - that is fast enough isn't it?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: b_1_rd on March 01, 2011, 10:53:42 AM +0000
You seem to be making some good improvements Paul.  Keep at it.

Unless you are having to accelerate again to get to the corner after slowing down at the lesmo's I'd suggest you are not braking too late.  The biggest thing I am trying to work on at the moment is not late braking but less braking and trying to carry speed, while still getting a good line for the exit.  The most important thing for the lesmo's is to get a good exit from 2 so you can carry that speed along the next section effectively all the way to parabolica.

For T1 I drop to 4th and almost cruise in as far as the tree on the right then gradually feed in the power again.  There are probably better ways there but its too easy to run wide to the barrier there.

May be worth a read: http://wiki.grandprixlegends.info/index.php?title=LOR_Trackguide_Monza (http://wiki.grandprixlegends.info/index.php?title=LOR_Trackguide_Monza)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 01, 2011, 11:00:25 AM +0000
Steve is right, you'll be better off by easing off the brakes before the corner and just letting the car carry speed while you turn in.

What setup are you using, Paul? I hope you've ditched the default setup which has way too much understeering.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 11:13:36 AM +0000
Thanks both.

May be worth a read: http://wiki.grandprixlegends.info/index.php?title=LOR_Trackguide_Monza (http://wiki.grandprixlegends.info/index.php?title=LOR_Trackguide_Monza)

Aware of this but can't get anywhere near the sort of speeds they mention! It is useful though.

I am certainly not accelerating to get to Lesmo 1! Brake hard and turn in and then back on the power (usually too early and back off to make the turn) and then accelerate hard off the apex drifting left for Lesmo 2 - I know that is not ideal but it seems to be the only way I can make the corner cleanly and keep tight.

The setup is pretty bland but I have it set 40% front and 60% back  (80/120) something like that and reverse for the wheel rates (or is it the other way round? Can't remember but it is pretty stable). 55% Bias and Camber of -0.50 with a tweak for the front right (-0.60 I think). 22 PSI all round. 9:1 ratio.
Set the Diff to 85/30 with 3 clutches. Had 30/60 with 5 in the default I think and it was just snatching as I downshifted.

Seems ok. I can't drive your setups H they are just too twitchy!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: b_1_rd on March 01, 2011, 11:19:40 AM +0000
IMHO:

80/120 should be for the wheel rates.  Try even roll bars at about 150 and if is kicking the rear out lower the rear roll bar.

Set the tyres at 20 psi, you may find they get heat better, 22 seems a bit high, although I know some have them high for the apparent less roll resistance at fast tracks.  Can't say I notice that much difference.

Your diff is close to what I use, I bet H and Clive use something much different to that, but it should be a stable one.

You'll get about 300 different points of view now lol

This may be useful as a basic guide: http://www.intothered.dk/simracing/setups.html (http://www.intothered.dk/simracing/setups.html)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: EvilClive on March 01, 2011, 11:25:56 AM +0000
Paul,
if you are finding that you are having to get off the power at Lesmo 1, try to resist the urge to mash the throttle and actually squeeze it down in a controlled way whilst "feeling" the grip available until the corner opens up you are sure that you can give it 100%.

Backing off the gas mid corner is likely to unsettle the car and will scrub of any momentum that you might be carrying. Better to persuade the car with gentle throttle and steering inputs to maintain your speed and allow it to drift out towards the armco ( but of course not actually hit it!) as you accelerate towards Lesmo 2 where the same rules apply.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 11:29:32 AM +0000
80/120 should be for the wheel rates.

Probably is :laugh: I can never remember which way round they are unless I am in the screen. I'll try it but that is partly my problem - I'll try anything!

Clive,

Thanks for that. Backing off usually puts my front on the kerb on the inside and that is VERY effective at slowing me down ;) but I thought wild and wooly was the WAZA way!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 01, 2011, 12:41:38 PM +0000
Why do you have a higher negative camber on the right front wheel? It should be the other way around since you have only right corners. And also, if your car pushes wide when you step on the throttle inside the corner, then it has too much understeer. Ideally you want the car to drift, neither frontend pushing wide or rear stepping out.

I know my setups are twitchy, but they can be easily made more drivable. Change the differential to something like 60/45 or 85/45 with 1-2 clutches, make the rear ARB softer, add some more rear Toe-in and it's quite easy to drive yet responsive. I have a friend who has never driven GPL and I gave him to try a few laps, and with those changes to the setup he managed to do quite OK, as it helped him feel the car better.

As I told you before, you're far from the point where you should adjust setups to suit your driving style, because your driving style is far from developed. Don't fall into the trap of many who develop a style which only suits beginner setups and stop improving as they obtain habits which are difficult to change afterwards.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 02:12:28 PM +0000
The tyre was heating excessively on one side - I couldnt work out why. The tweak didn't make much difference one way or the other so I think I will try Steve's suggestion of lower pressures, equalize the cambers and see how that goes. I only change the cambers to equalize tyre pressures - its not about time for me.

I'll take another look at your setup with some modifications to the diff. If nothing else, it would give me some better gearing. The main problem with your setups for me is the brake balance - when I set it back to 55% (which is what I am comfortable with) it doesn't seem to agree with the rest of the setup.

As far as habits go, I am still learning about how to point the car with brake and gas and although I don't drive 'on the edge' which means I am inherently slow, I am slowly beginning to understand what is possible.

Thanks, as always, for the assistance.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Baab on March 01, 2011, 07:40:22 PM +0000
I'm having similar issues re times have levelled off and can't seem to go much faster...still half a sec off my best.  BTW, that race lap record is rather pacey, can it be right?  What's your pb for Monza, H?  I see the world record is a 1:24:31.  Some of the older UKGPL records seem very fast, was GPL different back then or did we have a wealth of speed freaks.

Sounds like the race will be competitive, Pelle and Tommie in fezzas and H handicapped with the Honda (probably....no offence to the Honda).  Sounds like a few others will be pretty speedy here too.  I just hope to finish without incident and preferably in a good position.

Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 01, 2011, 08:08:16 PM +0000
The record here on UKGPL is wrong, it's not possible to do better than a flat 26 (in the Lotus) or maybe a high 25, though the best I've seen is 26.1 or something. And the WR being 24? That must be with 69s, lol.

My PB with the Honda is around 27.5-27.6, but I'm usually running into high 27s low 28s, and mid 28s during races.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Tom van Ostade on March 01, 2011, 08:22:20 PM +0000
The tyre was heating excessively on one side - I couldnt work out why. The tweak didn't make much difference one way or the other so I think I will try Steve's suggestion of lower pressures, equalize the cambers and see how that goes. I only change the cambers to equalize tyre pressures - its not about time for me.

I'll take another look at your setup with some modifications to the diff. If nothing else, it would give me some better gearing. The main problem with your setups for me is the brake balance - when I set it back to 55% (which is what I am comfortable with) it doesn't seem to agree with the rest of the setup.

As far as habits go, I am still learning about how to point the car with brake and gas and although I don't drive 'on the edge' which means I am inherently slow, I am slowly beginning to understand what is possible.

Thanks, as always, for the assistance.

Paul, have you ever tried Greger Huttu's setups? Obviously Greger was an alien but he also made some very driveable setups to use for long races, which have a very mellow diff and stable rear end. His banzai-hotlap setups are called 'GH2' with the laptime he did with it, the easier ones are called 'GH', and the easiest ones are usually the 'GH_long_race' setups. I learned GPL in the Brabham BT24 at Zandvoort with Greger's setups. Here's a link:

GH2 setups:

http://www.teamredline.co.uk/file/setups/2/

GH1 setups:

http://www.teamredline.co.uk/file/setups/1/

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: bernie on March 01, 2011, 08:23:56 PM +0000
Benchmark for Monza is 1m30 , if you can get below that you will be doing fine  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 01, 2011, 11:49:18 PM +0000
Cheers Tom.

Bernie - in my dreams!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Tom van Ostade on March 02, 2011, 01:04:42 AM +0000
Cheers Tom.

Bernie - in my dreams!

I take it you meant 'in my sleep' ;D .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 02, 2011, 02:40:07 PM +0000
If only...  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Pelle_B on March 02, 2011, 09:08:03 PM +0000
It's Monza Yeah Yeah Yeah...like a old Beatles song, It is heard/run so much, but still fun  :laugh:
I'm really looking forward to this race & as several others, it was on this course I learned to drive GPL. Year was 2000, but knew nothing about GPL was run Online & trained therefore with Lotus at Monza in Pro. An incredibly hard way to learn GPL, a touch of curbs could be enough to steering was wrong & I bought myself poor in new engines. Later I tried Nurburgring, but never reached further than to the bridge...bang  ::)
Jarama was not my favorite, but I got beaten up a lot of rust on this track, so right now I'm glad we have just run it.
Got tested a 30 laps race (ours is 33) but think I already have a setup ready  8)

Which car won at Monza in 1967 ?  :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZpmHeWLCk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZpmHeWLCk)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 02, 2011, 09:11:14 PM +0000
It would be a miracle if the same car wins in our race.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Rick Nauman on March 04, 2011, 07:21:52 PM +0000
I've had a lot going here at home for the past few weeks and had to miss some races.  But Monza!  It has always been high on my list of great historic tracks and since my visit there this past fall it's even more special.  I won't miss this one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: bernie on March 04, 2011, 09:45:29 PM +0000
Grand finale and what a time I pick to get a bad dose of the lurgy (manflue) :P

Off to bed with a bottle , hoping to sweat it out  :'(



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 04, 2011, 11:24:33 PM +0000
Get a pie down you Bernie and we'll see you Sunday. Get well soon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 05, 2011, 08:34:58 AM +0000
Grand finale and what a time I pick to get a bad dose of the lurgy (manflue) :P

Off to bed with a bottle , hoping to sweat it out  :'(


Don't want to kick a man when hes down but I'm lapping at sub 1.26 pace on full tanks in the BRM in practice and thats with a blindfold and one hand tied behind my back. Then again maybe not! Like Paul says, get well soon and get a heater or two for that loft.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 05, 2011, 10:17:06 AM +0000
Well thanks for that Ronnie - I was feeling pretty good about my sub 1:34 with fumes in the tank and screaming tyres!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: bernie on March 05, 2011, 12:31:10 PM +0000
Grand finale and what a time I pick to get a bad dose of the lurgy (manflue) :P

Off to bed with a bottle , hoping to sweat it out  :'(


Don't want to kick a man when hes down but I'm lapping at sub 1.26 pace on full tanks in the BRM in practice and thats with a blindfold and one hand tied behind my back. Then again maybe not! Like Paul says, get well soon and get a heater or two for that loft.


Pffft 

I can do those times in the Coop with both hands tied behind me back and calling in the pits each lap for a pie break  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 05, 2011, 01:06:48 PM +0000
Did I not mention I was towing the Coop with the BRM!  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 05, 2011, 06:35:47 PM +0000
Towing is not allowed - you are both disqualified ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Tom van Ostade on March 06, 2011, 12:59:20 PM +0000
Hi guys,

We've got a little problem, it seems like I'm not able to make it! We are currently celebrating a regional tradition, which also involves drinking a beer or two ;) . We'll see how it goes but I'm going to have to drink soda all day if I have a chance of making it. In the event I do not, Hristo has to get a 5th place or higher to win the championship. In any case I wish you all the best of luck, and hopefully I'll be able to challenge you in a few hours :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 06, 2011, 02:16:12 PM +0000
It just won't feel right if you miss it, Tom.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: b_1_rd on March 06, 2011, 06:37:17 PM +0000
Shame Tommie.  Sorry to hear you cant get there.

Sadly, after picking up a fairly bad knee injury in taekwondo tournament today while grappling with a 20 year old (will I ever learn), there is no way I will make tonight, or likely at least the next week.  I wont have the same impact on the championship as Tommie though  :laugh:

Best of luck to all.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 06, 2011, 10:54:16 PM +0000
As long as she was hot Steve ;)

Think I'd rather be duffed up at marshal arts than suffer the infuriatingly embarrasing defeat I managed tonight.
At least SHE will be pleased  >:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 06, 2011, 11:07:49 PM +0000
SHE might be pleased with H but SHE'll be furious with me - threw away eighth. Great first half then  lost it at Ascari after I clipped the armco, then managed to spin about five times and was awful when lapping and being lapped. Lapping someone was a new experience and I found it very hard!

WD to Bernie and a fast finishing Ronnie.

Season best left forgotten for me. Look forward to giving Hannah a closer battle next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Samb on March 06, 2011, 11:19:42 PM +0000
Get well soon Steve  :),

Another dismal race by me which pretty much summed up my driving this season. By driving a car that just doesn't quite have the pace to match it with the frontrunners, I overdrive to make up lost time and more often than not, spin out time and time again through small errors.

The first few laps were good fun, but soon after, braked too late into the Parabolica and resumed in last, and lapped erratically to 7th at the chequered flag. This has easily been my most dismal season in the 67s so far. It seems the competition has vastly improved since my last full season in S17. Though if I stopped making so many errors and just lapped consistently at my own pace I could have finished a damn sight higher than my lowly 11th in the table.

No matter, it's something to take onboard for S21. With no laptop to put up with, and a lovely widescreen TV turned computer monitor, there'll be no excuses on the poor hardware front  ;). Congrats to H on a fine drive in the Honda to wrap up another title in style. Thanks to all for such brilliant racing this season and for UKGPL to continue to provide a fabulous online league. It's been a pleasure.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on March 06, 2011, 11:26:34 PM +0000
Just a quick note top apologise for the Privateers server / race length issues.
As I usually run the Spec races it is Intermediate Short & whatever the server throws up. To cut a long story short I wasn't really sure about how to alter the race distance. Rather than experiment I took a call to run at deafult settings at 21 Laps. If you wanted a longer race it would have been at Pro settings.
I have now worked out this particular little problem.

The championship came down to Ronnie & Bernie & was settled on the night. Another 12 laps could have made a difference but only if Bernie nade a mistake.
Good point to say well done to Bernie on taking the Privateers crown - proves you're never too old to play computer games (sorry Sims).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: kinghiro on March 07, 2011, 12:57:30 AM +0000
very happy with my result but not quiet so happy how I got there.climbed in championship because of disconnects.my pace was a bit careful but ok.Feel specially sorry for baab.fix your connection  ! ;).Had a nice battle with rick for like 10 laps.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: jhalli on March 07, 2011, 01:09:57 AM +0000
good racing with Evil,we have our Honda battle for 7th spot  ;D

he passed me when i was struggling with my underteery Honda on Lesmos but could gain the cap few laps later, it actually takes me till 2 laps to go to pass him again and get back to my 6th place. :D

thanks all for racing F167 graduates !
Juha


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 07, 2011, 01:29:14 AM +0000
This was one of the hardest races I've ever had, but also one of the most unexpected race finishs and results as well!

I was struggling during the whole Qualifying session, unable to come to terms with the car setup and car handling. It seems I've forgotten how to drive in the smooth manner that Monza demands. It's probably habits picked up from driving the BT7 so much these days - it requires almost no throttle control and almost no steering input, and this doesn't really work with the RA300 at this track.

I was making corrections all the time and even though eventually managed to slot to 3rd on the grid, I went on with a race setup which was supposedly tested in whatever was my previous Honda Monza league race here and I expected it to work well. Wrong! It didn't!

I had an OK start, but a Lotus made a rocket start and went through in the middle of the track, so I just kept my position on the left and dropped to 4th. Tim was soon putting pressure on me and passed me after a couple of laps, and I had no response to that. In the meantime Pelle was gone into the distance while Bob and Al were locked up in their own battle, until Bob made it through and opened up a gap.

I was struggling to keep control of the car in almost ever corner. It was very unstable under braking and corner entry, then understeering in the middle of the corner, and then very loose under throttle. It took me some 2/3rds of the race distance to adjust my driving style well enough to be able to increase my pace, but by that time Al had opened up a 3 seconds gap, with Tim another 2-3 seconds ahead of him.

I was so preoccupied with driving the car and trying to maintain and then reduce the gap to Al, that I never saw Pelle retiring so early, so I thought I was still going in 5th. If Tom was to be believe, 5th was all I needed to take the title, but I didn't want to give up on a higher position yet. JR was keeping me honest for the first half of the race, running 2 seconds behind, until he disconnected.

Even though I began to close up the gap to Al, it was happening at a painfully slow rate - no more than 1-2 tenths per lap, and sometimes not even that! With about 6 laps to go I was finally within 1 second of him, but I was putting so much pressure on myself that I made 2 little mistakes and dropped half a second back, which made me really angry.

I pushed as hard as I dared and closed up on Al once more, but with 2 to go it didn't look possible unless I made zero mistakes and/or Al made a mistake at all; he was flawless throughout the whole distance until that moment. Still thinking I was in 5th place, I never noticed when I moved up to 3rd with Bob's unfortunate retirement from the lead with just 2 laps to go.

On the start of the last lap I was already getting a decent tow from Al, but his Lotus was accelerating rapidly and I needed to take Lesmos MUCH better than him if I was to stand any chance of attempting an attack. Well, I didn't take Lesmo 1 much better as I lost the car a bit, but then much to my disbelief Al went wide on the entry to Lesmo 2 and even though I messed it up a bit as well, I managed to accelerate earlier and glue myself to his back on the run down to Ascari!

I had to lift up to stay behind, but then floored it and used the slipstream to go for a pass on the outside of Parabolica. I always like passing on the outside there as it just seems the easier thing to do, allowing you to carry more speed and accelerate earlier, which is what I needed to stand a chance in maintaining my position until the s/f line.

Just as we entered Parabolica side by side, I saw a car in the gravel with my peripheral vision and thought "This must be Tim, so I have a chance to take 3rd place now!". I accelerated earlier as planned, but didn't have as much gap in front of Al as I would've liked, so he instantly tucked behind my Honda and his superior acceleration allowed him to move on my right as soon as we continued in straight line towards the chequered flag.

It appeared as though I was going to lose 3rd (or so I thought) in the very last moment, but Al changed up a gear a few meters before the line and lost just enough momentum to remain behind me - we finished 2 hundreds from each other!

And then it turned out I had won the race! Say what?! How was that possible, lol! It goes to prove that you should never ever give up, no matter what position (you think) you're running at and how faster the cars in front are! It also goes to show that even my awareness has its limits and they were put to the test in this race.  ::)

Anyway, I'm extremely pleased with the result, although it was my lucky day/evening apparently. Shame that Tom could not attend the race and defend his Championship chances though.  :(

Commiserations to Tim for losing the race on the final lap (I'm still fresh from doing the same at Edmonton, so I know how bad that feels) and to Bob who disconnected from the lead with 2 laps to go.

At the very least, I hope SHE will be pleased, because...ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!! ;D

-=Hristo=-


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Michael Turner on March 07, 2011, 08:30:17 AM +0000
First of all, congratulations to Bernie on winning the Driver's championship for the second season running :clap: adding another virtual trophy to the Soggies' virtual trophy room.

My own race was very enjoyable despite a disastrous start when I couldn't avoid running into Fabio who had gone sideways at the start. HH then ran into me and I was launched catapulting across the track collecting AB and PW en route. Miraculously the usually fragile Lotus emerged from these aerial acrobatics intact and I was able to continue slowly climbing back up the field with some good racing against AB.

A good end to an enjoyable season and on to Season 21.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: happyal on March 07, 2011, 09:49:21 AM +0000
Great Fun race for me.

I didn't get any pratice in and only started at 20:30, found an old setup which I quickly discovered was rubbish so I was forced to use the default setup.

I was quite surprised to be so high on the grid, I really was expecting a lonely race at the back so was happy with 9th. Looking at the grid it looked like I should of driven the Lotus, like everyone else, but Monza screams Ferrari to me :)

At the start I saw some cars having a few problems, I tried to thread myself past them, but just got clipped. Not a big deal as it was just a spin for me and I got going again quickly. I saw that Billy was in front of me, and pulling away quite quickly. Behind me was Cookie, don't know why he was behind me, he must of been invloved in the first lap crash. He wasn't there for long, as he breezed past me.

Next up was Michael, who was also quite a bit faster than me. I just tried to get good drive out of the corners onto the straights and defend the corners from Michael. I think I own a big thank you to Michael, as some of my braking was a little wild until i got use to braking off line. He got a good run on me down teh back straight, I took the inside line but he made a great pass on the outside, well done mate, it was a great pass and you made it stick well.

I tried to follow Michael, and was just about keeping him in touch, not really worring him and no where near for any type of pass. It didn't last long as my engine blew as I went past the start-finish line. I took my one and only Shift&R, and the next lap I pitted for my stop and go. Nigel was behind me, but the scare of my blown engine ment that I took it easy for a safe finish.

Overall a good clean race from me, one that I'm really happy with. Thank you too Billy, I think that 21 laps was better than no race for me, and I'm sure that most people will aggree.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: fpolicardi on March 07, 2011, 10:17:53 AM +0000
Sorry Bill to not have been around last night to do any support, I had another commitment. I've just read now Tim's PM.
Ciao

Just a quick note top apologise for the Privateers server / race length issues.
As I usually run the Spec races it is Intermediate Short & whatever the server throws up. To cut a long story short I wasn't really sure about how to alter the race distance. Rather than experiment I took a call to run at deafult settings at 21 Laps. If you wanted a longer race it would have been at Pro settings.
I have now worked out this particular little problem.

The championship came down to Ronnie & Bernie & was settled on the night. Another 12 laps could have made a difference but only if Bernie nade a mistake.
Good point to say well done to Bernie on taking the Privateers crown - proves you're never too old to play computer games (sorry Sims).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: vosblod on March 07, 2011, 10:45:42 AM +0000
Results uploaded, any Incident Reports by close of play Friday please. Congratulations to our provisional champions Hristo and Bernie. A review of the Privateers shows everyone complied with the single reset rule.
I will load up the server replays tonight.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: BadBlood on March 07, 2011, 10:57:18 AM +0000
Feel a bit better about this now. Had a good first ten laps and built up a nice lead on Bookie and Nigel but lost it coming down to parabolica. That put me back and as I was recovering, skymole took a wide line and just clipped me back into the sand. That put me into the clutches of Ronnie and Bernie who I let past in very clumsy fashion (sorry boys) but I held them up equally I think :( Then slowed to let a Lotus past and realised it was Hannah who I was racing for position! Span at Parabolica and had to shift-r Silly mistake but my concentration had gone. Put in a 1:34.5 which is slow but quick enough for me. Then next lap lost it at Della Roggia trying to push too hard for my skill level and the handling was evil after that. Good start. Bad end. That is why I am a novices novice!

No worries about the 21 laps Billy, grateful for your efforts in putting it on.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on March 07, 2011, 11:01:00 AM +0000
Sorry Bill to not have been around last night to do any support, I had another commitment. I've just read now Tim's PM.
Ciao
No problem Fulvio. By lap 21 I was rather glad to see the chequered flag.
If anyone feels like they haven't seen enough of Parabolica then you are welcome to join the Spec races next Sunday - 67 Lotus & Eagle. I think we may have rather overdone Monza as the closing event (Grads / Ams / Historics / Spec). May be an idea for the Mod team to look at the calendars before the start of Season 21.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: vosblod on March 07, 2011, 11:04:09 AM +0000
I think we may have rather overdone Monza as the closing event (Grads / Ams / Historics / Spec). May be an idea for the Mod team to look at the calendars before the start of Season 21.
But then we had quite a few calls to run the same tracks together rather then lots of different ones simultaneously...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Al Heller on March 07, 2011, 01:07:13 PM +0000
What an exciting finish to the season - it felt like we were re-enacting one of the classic Monza races of yesteryear as Hristo pipped me to the win by just 2/100ths of a second... with all the drama of the last few laps I'm not sure whether to feel happy about grabbing a last-gasp 2nd or disappointed at just missing the win (I guess a bit of both if I'm honest).

Qualified 5th but got a flier off the line to slot in 2nd behind Pelle - I really hoped there would be no contact with Bob who I knew was nearby but his car kept disappearing & reappearing thanks to lag so I just held my line & hoped for the best. (I know Goran had similar problems with running wireless Bob but he solved it by boosting the signal - maybe that would help? You can't beat a super-long cable though...) Anyway the lag made trying to race Bob extremely difficult as his car would suddenly hop several meters across the track or momentarily levitate into the air so when he came up the inside at Lesmo 2, I had no choice but to yield & take the widest line possible to avoid any warp contact. It was a similar story when I was trying to retake 2nd but after a while Bob eased ahead anyway & next I came under pressure from FMG. After a few laps, FMG had demoted me to 4th but soon after Pelle disappeared from the lead & I was back up to 3rd. With Hristo only 3 seconds behind & two-thirds of the race to go I didn't fancy my chances of holding onto that last podium place but I just tried to keep lapping consistently. It was very tense as H clawed back a few tenths every lap but I suspected that he might be having problems with the Honda's tyre temps so I just tried to keep lapping cleanly.

With a few laps to go I was surprised to see Bob disconnect (bad luck Bob) which elevated me to 2nd place & starting the last lap about a second ahead of H I thought just one more clean lap & I should hang on - naturally that was the moment I made a slight error going too deep into Lesmo 2 which was enough to give H the chance of a run on me into Para. I thought I might still be able to snatch it back by taking the inside line & blasting for the line with Lotus power but I was also very mindful that I didn't want to outbrake myself & slide into Hristo - not sure wiping out his championship on the last corner of the last lap would have gone down too well... Anyway in the end we crossed the line virtually together but H nicked it by 2/100ths which must be one of the closest finishes in the UKGPL archives!

In all the excitement of the last lap, I had no idea that FMG had gone off so we were actually dicing for the lead. Tim's misfortune proved quite kind for me though as it meant we both finished on equal points for the season - but I ended up taking 3rd in the championship thanks to having, yes you guessed it, one extra second place... ;)

Congrats to Hristo on taking the championship - shame Tommie wasn't able to race. I'd also like to especially congratulate the once-great Clark-Hill team for finally breaking the Waza stranglehold & taking the Works Team championship - our first team championship in a senior division   ;D :punk:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: EvilClive on March 07, 2011, 01:15:29 PM +0000
I think the fact that I also used this track for the GT fun races has given everyone an overdose of Monza.

I certainly found myself lacking in enthusiasm for yet another flog around the circuit last night.
I know that there was call to use the same circuits at around the same time, for all mods at the beginning of the season, but frankly I find the driving style for each of the mods so different that they might as well be different tracks.

 It is just the repetition of the scenery and  lines through corners that I find boring.

Last nights race was a fitting end to a poor 67 season for me. Too many dnf's early in this season removed any chance of a higher finish.

I had a race long battle with Juha also in a Waza, from Curve Grande on lap 1 right to the flag.
He had the edge on me for speed ( I think he was running slightly more aggressive gearing) but I could just about stay with him and not overstress the Honda in the slipstream.

His one mistake at Lesmo 1 allowed me through, but I was too careful with my engine and allowed him to re-close the gap and regain his position just 2 laps from the end.
I have noticed lately that if I can use the last 500 rpm before the red line in all gears I can trim some serious chunks off my lap times. It does require some serious concentration on gear changes to avoid over revving and a need to watch the oil temp.

So maybe some extra practice on the 67's which I admit I have neglected lately, might serve me in good stead for next season. ;)

Grats to Hristo for keeping the Wazas at the top in the Premier category for GPL and to all who have made the racing such good fun this season.

The number of fast cars on the grid lately has become very noticeable, which can only be good for UKGPL!! keep it up guys  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 07, 2011, 01:44:16 PM +0000
I'd also like to especially congratulate the once-great Clark-Hill team for finally breaking the Waza stranglehold & taking the Works Team championship - our first team championship in a senior division   ;D :punk:

Ah, I had a feeling there is something SHE might not be pleased about.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on March 07, 2011, 02:10:18 PM +0000
Had I actually bothered to do some practice and been in the mood for this I would have taken something other than the Honda to blow off steam (which cannot be driven in anger under any circumstances). Bad week, bad weekend.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 07, 2011, 02:17:02 PM +0000
Had I actually bothered to do some practice and been in the mood for this I would have taken something other than the Honda to blow off steam (which cannot be driven in anger under any circumstances). Bad week, bad weekend.

But you're not allowed to take something other than the Honda!  >:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: bernie on March 07, 2011, 05:22:45 PM +0000
Found my Lotus set up very twitchy on light fuel for qualifying,(which

isn't my strongest point) that and traffic had me sat in P4

For the championship I had to finish 3rd or above which was looking a

bit iffy with 2 known fast men in front plus the new guy "cookie" in

the eagle and Maddog Martin lurking over my shoulder.

When the little man waved his flag I made a cautious start but poor

fabio in front got all sideways and lost it. (shame matey on your home turf

too )  I had to run around him and had my head down inside the cockpit

waiting for the bang , felt sure it was all over there and then but

fortunately ther's plenty of room on the Monza pits straight so I was

able to get away cleanly in the event, athough not the case for those

further back , including Mike my team mate .

Martin making one of his flying starts jumped me and 3 other cars

before curva grand which left me in P4 I think, but soon after cookie

decided he didnt like the track and took a break at Parabolickup which

gave me P3 where I needed to be , all i had to do now was hold on to

the finish ,simples ! Had a scare when I came upon Martin parked up in

Lesmo 2 , my car didn't want to stop and steer at the same time and I

just made it round the front as he was starting to drive off again ,

actually caught my tyre but luckily no harm done , just lost a bit of

time but was now P2.

My car came good in the later laps and was able to reel Ronnie in but

back markers and a shortage of laps intervened , think Ronnie had a

close shave too looking at the replay .

So thats me , must be the luckiest UKGPL champ of all times , I didnt

win the championship as much as Ronnie fell foul of the points system

but I'm sure he will make up for it in future seasons to come .

Martin too was very quick and showed us all how to drive fast , just needs to

calm down a tad and not keep giving me places  ;D . Great season , enjoyed

the racing . Thanks to all who took part . See you next season if I'm still around


Oh and BTW , did I mention that the Soggies Rule  :punk:




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: bernie on March 07, 2011, 05:28:46 PM +0000
Grats to another Champ too , well done H , quite a race you had there  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 07, 2011, 06:32:51 PM +0000
Grats to another Champ too , well done H , quite a race you had there  :)

Thanks, Bernie, grats to you and the Soggies as well. I knew you still have what it takes!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: maddog on March 07, 2011, 07:03:49 PM +0000
Practice for the final event of the Season, was a highly competitive and close knit affair, with all the contenders needing their wits about them.  Only a tenth of a second, separated the first three on the grid, while I lurked innocently back in 5th. :angel:

The rocket attachment worked well, and I was 2nd into the first corner, and 1st at the end of lap 2, when Ronnie got onto the marbles, entering The Parabolica.  He was soon hot on my trail, and eventually errorized me at the Lesmos.  Once passed, I decided to spin broadside across the track.  Skillfully grabbed 1st, just before championship mode Bernie came flying past, and bent my nose all out of shape in the process.  He was unscathed, and didn't even slow down to wave!  So thence proceeded undaunted, to a very good mid-race tussle with Billy for 3rd.  This entailed, conjuring up a strategically placed back marker, to finally settle the matter.

Towards the finish, I became aware of a newly revamped Cookie, who'd jumped from GT mode, to join us.  I'd luckily just enough space, without equaling his pace, to hold onto my place, 'til the end of the shortened event . . . or so those chickens I'd counted, thought.  But with only a second to hand, approaching Parabolica on the last lap, a despicable thing happened . . . my engine started coughing - and in all the sunshine too!  "Blimey, not again!!" The price of that wretched high octane just keeps on rising!  Grumble! >:(

I held my speed, as best I could, as Cookies Eagle closed on it's prey, and managed to limp it safely over the line, just in time - survived to fight another day.  Bernie survived to win another championship, and Ray won yet another race.  And I think we all proved ourselves, worthy of another plate of Spaghetti, and a spot of Spumante.  Bravo!

Now, had that G27 Ronnie promised arrived, it all could have been very different!  ;D

  



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on March 07, 2011, 08:25:27 PM +0000
First of all: grats to Bernie, the Privateers Champ, to Ronnie, that won five races and lost the championship for only three points and to Martin, that grabbed the Championship bronze medal at the very last race.
Grats also to everybody raced and to all the Mods :thumbup2:

...and in the end I was able to turn a possible hat trick into a complete disaster! :wacko:

Monza, my home track: I know it better than my wife's body (but don't tell her...) :wub:

As usual, on Saturday I was able to set my new PB, 1.28.372, without any trouble while on Sunday I was hardly able to set a perfect lap during the qualify.
Anyway, 1.28.645 was not so bad but Ronnie grabbed the pole at the very last second for only 1/100!! :blink:

OK, hat trick was gone but I could still win the race to secure the Championship third place but... the cold tires? the dirt side of the track? Probably it was only the shock for the pole lot so, after the green flag, the disaster happened... :death:

I guess it was the wortest race start in my whole career: nothing more to say about the race, as my concentration suddenly disappeared... :hang:

FL of the race will be the only good thing to remember of my race.

Martin did a fantastic race indeed: his third place + my 8th one = I lost, and he won, the podium of the championship...

OK, Season 20 is over, I can't complain about my results on it and I really hope Season 21 will start soon.

See you all on track!!
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 08, 2011, 08:21:42 AM +0000
First up congrats again to Bernie a deserving champ.

Well that was nail biting. Its was bad enough knowing I needed to win and Bernie to finish anywhere but second but then life got a lot more complicated. First two new drivers were suddenly introduced, one capable of a win, one who might need lapping. Don't panic focus on qualifying. Only that went pear shaped, as half the field vacated the server which was showing only a 21 lap race distance instead of the anticipated 33. After a short delay which seemed like an age we were immediately back into a shortened qualifying and living with a shortened race distance. Focus its the same for everyone get on with it. Traffic was a problem in qualifying and it was only with the last lap that I managed to steal pole from Fabio by 0.01s, sorry. Reasonable start, surprised to see Fabio disappear but not surprised to see Martin closing rapidly. Mistake at Paraboica and Martin pounced for the lead, fortunately I recovered quickly, fought off a fast approaching Cookie and setoff in pursuit. A lapse from Martin at Lesmo and I was back in front. The rest hopefully would be down to lady luck. But no, with Bernie luck rarely has anything to do with it. Another masterclass from the champion elect as he secured second and closed me down. Race victory was mine but the championship spoils went to Bernie.

At the end of the day the real congratulations go to not just Bernie but everyone, all the Privateer drivers, moderators and UKGPL for another tremendous season which I for one thouroughly enjoyed. Looking forward already to the next, thanks guys.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on March 08, 2011, 01:26:24 PM +0000
Had I actually bothered to do some practice and been in the mood for this I would have taken something other than the Honda to blow off steam (which cannot be driven in anger under any circumstances). Bad week, bad weekend.

But you're not allowed to take something other than the Honda!  >:(

H, after the last 10 days I've had the Honda would have made me more angry. Blessing in disguise I fear that I was not in the mood for civilised racing.

Grats to Bernie on a consistent championship. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: b_1_rd on March 08, 2011, 03:16:47 PM +0000
Congratulations to H and Bernie in their respective championships.  Also a well done to Ronnie in Privs for a close second.

Very chuffed to see CHR taking the Team title, not sure I made much of an impact on team points but nice to at least be part of it.

well done to everyone who took part, both works and privs drivers.  Not sure when or what I'll be doing next season yet, will have to see how things develop.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: Baab on March 08, 2011, 08:54:34 PM +0000
As some of you have said, an unhappy end for me, bloody internet.  It occasionally drops out for some unknown mysterious reason, but this has never happened during a race before...that I can remember at least.  I was starting to get a bit worried that the engine may go since I was revving just past 9k at the end of each straight, from about half distance I was changing gear at about 8800, with little effect on my lap times (as far as I could tell).

Sorry about the warping, I have since checked my core.ini and found some odd settings.  I changed them then raced a friend and he reckoned it was much better.

Al got a rocket start and surprised me off the line, but I was happy to sit behind.  Expected H to be on my case straight away, but luckily for me, he seemed to have his hands full...for once.  Al got a bit loose at the 1st lesmo on L2 and I moved alongside, expecting to have the door closed, but he gave me room (due the warping it seems) and I was through.  I felt the pressure for a few laps then was able to pull a couple of secs.  Pelle was in a race of his own though and was pulling away handsomely, nothing I could do.  I was then surprised to see Pelle disconnect, perhaps similar issues to me, or pushing too hard?

With the lead I then saw Tim 4 secs behind me, the gap stayed constant for a number of laps before it came down to 3 secs, then up to 5 secs, phew!  The gap seemed ok and for once I wasn't making silly mistakes when all of a sudden I saw a full L bar (latency?) and my race ended 1.5 laps early, gutted.

I have been in some good positions in a few races this season but things haven't gone my way and I am still searching for a maiden grads victory. Pleased to be making it to the end (almost) of more races though.

Cheers,

Bob


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 6
Post by: vosblod on March 16, 2011, 01:15:25 PM +0000
Moderation now published.