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Title: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 03, 2011, 02:28:55 PM +0000
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Car: Chevrolet Corvette C6R or Ford Mustang FR500S
Track: Sebring International
Practice: from approx. 18:45 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 19:45 (15 mins)
Race: 20:00 45 laps (approx. 90 minutes)

Start: Standard iRacing double file rolling start
Flags: local only

THERE WILL BE 1 RESET AVAILABLE!

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

JOINING PROCEDURE:

As we have more than a gridful of drivers that could potentially turn up - can I request that reserve/part time drivers only join after 1905hrs.  Full time drivers please "book your place" as soon as possible, you don't have to connect to the server by this time, but please register.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Robin Durrant on March 03, 2011, 05:29:49 PM +0000
Adam,

Can't wait for this race as the last one was Epic. Not too sure about Sebring. Never raced it in Iracing and never really got on here in anything else. So a bit dubious!


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: mr_oily on March 03, 2011, 06:33:38 PM +0000
We're running Sebring in Stangs on Sunday if you're up for it Robin?  ;)

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8999#event2582

(last plug in your threads Adam I promise...this week anyway  ;D)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: JazzGreenway on March 04, 2011, 02:56:40 AM +0000
Adam,

Can't wait for this race as the last one was Epic. Not too sure about Sebring. Never raced it in Iracing and never really got on here in anything else. So a bit dubious!

Sebring is awesome, one of my favorite tracks to drive in the Vette. Don't know about the Mustang but I'm sure it's gonna be great. Be sure to bring a comfy pillow since this track is reeeaally bumpy ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 04, 2011, 12:56:32 PM +0000
how many drivers are you guys getting on those endurance races ?


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: picnic on March 04, 2011, 01:11:57 PM +0000
Click the series linky (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=286&theme=33)  and all is revealed. Link available under series (top of every forum page) or on each and every race thread ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 04, 2011, 01:13:22 PM +0000
Generally we've been getting about 30.  Silverstone was an unexpected low unfortunatley ... but I'm hoping for 30+ again this race.

The more the merrier though ;).

I'm really looking forward to this race too, I think it'll be interesting though, with some of the corners I can see the Vettes having to hang back as the line the Mustangs will likely need will be a bloody wide one :D.

[WARNING - PLUG ALERT]

I for one intend to get some practice in with Oily's offering for this weekend.

[PLUG OVER]

Hopefully I can have another great tussle - me and Robin had a very fun race ... albiet a little heavy on the 1x IP.  Hopefully we'll see a lot less incident points this race.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 04, 2011, 01:17:35 PM +0000
Click the series linky (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=286&theme=33)  and all is revealed. Link available under series (top of every forum page) or on each and every race thread ;)

Thanks ! I still have to find my way back over here  ::)
 ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Robin Durrant on March 04, 2011, 01:47:46 PM +0000
Yep mine were attrocious Adam, I was getting them at Copse once or twice but mainly at Maggotts/Becketts.

I will indeed have a bit of a practice this weekend around Sebring.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 04, 2011, 02:13:20 PM +0000
Well, as ever the practice server will be running on Saturday evening before the race.  Bring a friend :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: IanBassi on March 04, 2011, 11:25:33 PM +0000
And it does not matter how fast or slow you are,  me and Ben will always be at the back of the grid :)

Ian


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Blunder on March 05, 2011, 09:22:10 AM +0000
Looking forward to this... gonna try Oily's event on Sunday!... Good practice!

I need to do better on the incident points too  ::) :-[


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 07, 2011, 11:02:38 AM +0000
Assuming that I can't rely on people to run out of fuel again ;D it looks like I've got a second or so to find before this race.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 08, 2011, 09:32:43 AM +0000
I'm not sure if everyone has picked this up yet but there was an update yesterday to enable damage repair on certain cars. The Mustang is one of the cars affected, the Corvette is not.

As a result there will be a slight change is how pit-stops work for the Mustang. This is how I think it will work...

With one reset enabled, the Mustange will have a "fast repair" instead of a "fast tow" which is slightly different;

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-the pit crew can do "fast repairs," which they will do at the start of your pitstop in an instant before commencing the rest of your pitstop sequence if you have a "fast repair" available. The pit crew will do a "fast repair" if anything on the car needs any repair at all, and consumes an available fast repair. If you pit with a perfectly undamaged car, a fast repair will not be used up. When you have used up your available fast repairs for a race, the pit crew will only be able to repair the car in the normal, slow, not-100% fashion. This fast repair will fully fix anything that is broken on the car to brand new, and magically cool off anything that is overheated (so that your motor will not immediately re-explode). But your pit crew will still have to replace tires and add fuel as usual.

After the "fast repair" is used up you will still be able to pit for repairs in the Mustang;

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- The pit crew can now try to repair a car that is damaged. Each car is unique in what can be repaired, how it is repaired, and how much it can be repaired, and how quickly it can be repaired. Generally any damaged component of a car will not be able to be repaired as good as 100% new, but the pit crew give it their best shot. Some parts of some cars are not repairable, for instance, carbon fiber components are typically not fixable once they break.

- Your pitstall information box will shows you the amount of time remaining for required and optional repairs. Required repairs are what repairs must be done to clear the Repairs Needed black flag and be allowed back onto the track. Work on required repairs is begun as various pit crew members finish their pitstop tasks and are free to begin working on your damage. You will not be allowed to exit your pit stall until required damage repairs are completed. Once they are completed the pit flagger will lift his lollipop and you may choose to drive away if you don't want to spend time working on optional repairs, but if you sit and wait, they will work on optional repairs for as long as you want to wait for. Just because you can drive away may not mean you should - if your car has severe damage it may be difficult to drive and off pace unless you spend time fixing it up, it is up to you to make that decision.

- Any penalties are served once all regular pitstop activities and required damage repair are completed, but before any optional damage begins repairing. The flagger guy will hold you in your stall until the penalty is served, then lift his lollipop and you may choose to drive away if you don't want to spend time working on optional repairs.

- If required repairs plus penalties will take more than 30 seconds, or if optional repairs will take more than 30 seconds, the pit crew will turn off the engine until the end of the pitstop so that engines won't blow up from overheating while idling for a long time. Pressing the accelerator or using the starter will tell the pit crew to turn the motor back on if you want to drive away during optional repairs, but they will keep turning the motor off if you leave it idling again.

There is also a new flag rule that you will need to be familiar with;

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- There is a new race control rule called the Repairs Needed rule. This rule will show a meatball black flag (a black flag with an orange circle in the middle) if race control has decided your car must pit for repairs - a smoking engine or some kind of leak will trigger a meatball. You must pit within 4 laps - INCLUDING caution laps - to have your car seen to or race control will disqualify you. Finishing the race while carrying the meatball black flag will not give any post race penalty, so it is feasible to limp a car to the finish if you're close enough to the end of the race. Race control will not issue a meatball black flag to a driver who is being shown the white flag, or after race is over.

- Your car will not be allowed to leave it's pitstall if the pit crew are not able to repair your car enough to pass black flaggable levels of damage. Your pit crew will tell you that they can't fix your car.




Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 08, 2011, 09:35:22 AM +0000
The Corvette will still have one "fast tow" which will work as it did previously and will not see the "meatball" flag.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: picnic on March 08, 2011, 09:41:03 AM +0000
I do find this a little confusing, not difficult at my age  :-[, so if I do my regular pitstop in the Mustang and have minor damage will that use up my fast repair and thus I effectively now only have a fast tow up to when I pit?


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 08, 2011, 09:58:39 AM +0000
I'm not entirely sure how it's all going to work tbh ....

I'm proposing running a short race at the end of the Saturday evening session to try and test some of these things....


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 08, 2011, 10:02:45 AM +0000
I do find this a little confusing, not difficult at my age  :-[, so if I do my regular pitstop in the Mustang and have minor damage will that use up my fast repair...

Yes, the way the release notes are worded it sounds like that will happen

...and thus I effectively now only have a fast tow up to when I pit?

It's explicit that if you don't have any damage the "fast repair" will not be triggered so if you pit for tyres/fuel and have no damage you can still use your "fast repair" after that pit stop.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 08, 2011, 10:05:05 AM +0000
Must say, I'm interested to see how many meatballs we'll all see in the main event.  I think that it could REALLY shake things up.  It's a bit of a shame the Vette hasn't had the same changes (the DP has - for the Grand Am) - hopefully that'll be changed in the not too distant future though ...


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 08, 2011, 10:07:01 AM +0000
Damage repair for all cars is planned for the next build :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: mr_oily on March 08, 2011, 11:02:59 AM +0000
Seems a bit strange that you can't make the decision whether to repair or not doesn't it!? If you've only got minor damage you may not want to waste the time getting it fixed in the heat of battle.

I can see that really becoming annoying but I guess it depends whether they limit it only to fixing things that affect performance as opposed to just slightly bent doors, missing mirrors and wiping off Oldie paint!



Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 08, 2011, 11:08:18 AM +0000
A fast repair is just that - no time messing around, just a new car when you pit.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 08, 2011, 11:15:07 AM +0000
Oily, you can make the decision on whether to repair minor damage or not, just not on your first pit which would use the "fast repair".

It's not possible to set fast tow by car, just at the event level so the situation we're in now is a compromise because the Corvette isn't repairable yet. Once it is I'd expect we lose the fast reset / fast repair and just use the standard repairs.

If it's major damage i.e. that's black-flaggable, you won't be allowed back onto track until it's repaired (if, indeed, it can be repaired).


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: GizMoTo on March 12, 2011, 06:30:23 PM +0000
will there be practice today guys just asking before i start doing some practice alone....................not turned a wheel since Wednesday.  not been well at all   so need to see if I'm up to driving before race day  ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Gazza49er on March 12, 2011, 06:52:19 PM +0000
There should be, anytime soon.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 13, 2011, 10:23:06 AM +0000
I must admit I'm stunned that they would choose to release a new build again mid-season to beta test the damage repair system and add stupid mirrors to the IndyCar. It annoys me greatly that they keep changing the physics and tyres and gawd knows what else, cause you can learn a car all you like for them to then go and change it mid-season. For a new season ok fair enough you're improving the game but not mid-season that just wreaks incompetance to me and using us as beta testers for new features instead of testing it themselves, well they can go suck my lollipop.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 13, 2011, 11:22:42 AM +0000
5 in the practice server ..... hmmm.

I'll run one at Silverstone, but it it's not being more widely used I'll not run practice sessions next season.  I would have attended, but iRacing doesn't run particularly well on my phone :D ... didnt' get back to the house till gone ten.

Practice time now then....


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: mr_oily on March 13, 2011, 11:48:03 AM +0000
Dammit, I hope you don't have get rid of practice sessions if you can help it Adam - was just out for the day this once!


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: BorchersDK on March 13, 2011, 12:30:20 PM +0000
I wasnt able to attend practise yesterday, so I will practise this afternoon.
Dont know, maybe it would be an option have the practise Saturday afternoon, rather than in evening?

I wonder what the Vette race pace is around Sebring. 56's?


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: BorchersDK on March 13, 2011, 03:53:20 PM +0000
Im really sorry guys, but I have to withdraw from tonights race, due to the simple reason that I dont like this track at all. I dont know what it is with it, but its just the entire nature of it I guess, its flow, corners etc. It would just be 90 minutes of being there for me, I wouldnt be focused at all (and make tons of mistakes, and most likely quit in fury), and thats not fair to you guys, and my self for that matter.

Im really sorry, especially now that we suffer from low attendance in the races.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: GizMoTo on March 13, 2011, 04:11:06 PM +0000
BorchersDK the track grows on ya the more laps you do ..honest ;)

in what little practice I managed last night ..had to drop out as unexpected visitors arrived  ::) .....sometime I hate real life cos I was having fun I was running 56's and I wasn't the fastest when I left ..I think in the race I'm hoping to be running 57's-low 58's or I'll be left way out of the running ;)  during the official race I was even slower I think this season so maybe I'll struggle  ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: BorchersDK on March 13, 2011, 04:15:53 PM +0000
Nah, I've tried it numerous times in all sorts of race games since Sports Car GT in the late 90's, it never fails to bug me. Is still the same in iRacing, no matter what the layout. Maybe its a build in hate towards it, dunno. I do love watching the 12 hours of Sebring though, hehe (is next weekend btw.).


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 13, 2011, 04:44:29 PM +0000
I used to hate this track with a passion, now I kinda like it :)

Sorry I couldn't make the practice, Saturday is almost always a no-go for me.

I'm just about starting to feel comfortable here, finally into the 2:24's but mid 2:25's are more realistic for the race (I hope!).

Looking forward to the race :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Ste Jones on March 13, 2011, 05:09:42 PM +0000
Sebring was always a track I never liked much but, when the official series ran there a few weeks ago, for some reason something just clicked. Not really sure what it was but I hope it clicks again tonight! ;D

Although I'm not 100% certain at the moment, as things stand I won't be able to make Spa. So, I've got some extra incentive to make this one a good 'un :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: DarioF on March 13, 2011, 06:29:31 PM +0000
I'll miss the race tonight, I don't feel well enough to make it to the end of an endurance. My eyes would probably esplode.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 13, 2011, 06:45:34 PM +0000
Server's going live now.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Robin Durrant on March 13, 2011, 08:39:44 PM +0000
I under estimated the effect this would have my injury. Was really hurting after 6 laps. Couldn't hold slides and gave up when I had a coming together with a Corvette.

Hate the bloody place.

Thanks for hosting Adam.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Mike Wrightson on March 13, 2011, 08:47:41 PM +0000
Discoed before half distance.  I'm not bothering to rejoin as I was not enjoying it at all.  Car was bouncing around like a spacehopper, no consistency, no pace.

Hate this place.  Another poor score, my season is going to the dogs, at least I like Spa I suppose.  :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Reign Man on March 13, 2011, 08:56:56 PM +0000
Not much luck here either.

Made a mistake whiel lapping the stangs.   Made a hash of trying to get the car off the track.  Sorry guys, I thought I put it in reverse.

Got hit during an overtake attempt 1 lap later,  bent steering.

Pit.  Quit.  Cup of tea.  That my night done!.

Bring on Spa!



Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: picnic on March 13, 2011, 08:58:27 PM +0000
Several of us seemed to suffer discos at the same time Mike, I reconnected only to get kicked before the tow completed. Connected again only to get kicked before I could complete another lap so I gave up.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 13, 2011, 09:53:59 PM +0000
The more I drive the Vette the less I like it. Wish I was driving the Stang tbh at least it has more life in it. The Vette is so dead, bouncing around like a bucking bronco. Totally undeserved 3rd for me, especially as I rammed Pops up the rear to send us both spinning gracefully across the asphalt.

Dare I say it but I'd like to try the V8 next season as it's had about 2 laps use in the year or so I've had it, but I suspect that's cause it's a car I hate too. LOL.

See you for the final round at Spa. Not looking forward to it greatly, but positive thinking I could get another undeserved 3rd by driving like a plonker if I'm good.

Shame about the mass (3) discos at once. Reduced the field somewhat.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 13, 2011, 09:58:38 PM +0000
Epic ... EPIC race!  That was absolutely awesome.

I set a new PB in qually and broke into the 2:24s which I was really pleased with, but with Pops and Jasper behind I knew I wasn't going to have any peace at all ... man, was I right!!

Try as I might, I couldn't keep pace with Raimo, and Dave was in a league of his own on this one, but Jasper was never more than a second behind ... and mostly less than half that.

I was driving pretty consistently, so Jasper never really had that much of a chance to pass for the first quarter of the race,  but then he started really closing in and we were side by side on a number of occasions.  Sadly two wildly different lines in the last corner meant we banged doors and Jasper came off worst :(  I was sad to see you pit, but was hoping the new implementations on damage repair would see you rejoin the fight ... glad to see that was the case :).

With Jasper taking an early stop, I had Pops for company, ready to capitalize on any mistake I made ... but thankfully I managed to keep it steady and stay ahead.  I made a solid stop the lap after Pops, and came out a couple of seconds infront of the repaired car of Jasper, with Pops just behind.

The second half was much like the first ... HEAVY concentration to keep a second or two ahead, and although it closed down Jasper didn't quite manage to get back into a passing position.

I'll take a podium finish any day, but I really feel I earned this one .... epic racing, lots and lots of fun.  Bit of a shame the field wasn't a bit bigger, but I know Sebring isn't everyone's cup of tea.  Hopefully the magic of Spa will see a packed grid for the season finale and the crowning of the i5e champions.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 13, 2011, 10:00:48 PM +0000
Dare I say it but I'd like to try the V8 next season ....

I'm open to a change of cars, but I can't see the V8 being a good fit for it ...


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: JazzGreenway on March 13, 2011, 10:05:12 PM +0000
Whew, that was one of the most epic races ever for me. The start was relatively calm and I settled in behind Adam. I was one or two tenths per lap quicker than him but couldn't find a way past, tried a couple of times in the last corner but it scares me so much I didn't dare try anything fancy ;D We had some awesome racing going on until around halfway in the race when I got a good run onto the back straight and as we entered the last corner side by side I messed up somehow and ran into Adam. Luckily we could both continue although my steering was completely off. (no damage for Adam) I then entered the pits for an early stop and thanks to iRacings new damage system my car got insta-fixed with no time loss at all. When Adam made his regular stop we were again only a few seconds apart and I managed to creep up to him a couple of tenths each lap. With 2 laps to go I caught up to him and it looked like we were going to battle once again but I messed it up on the last lap and half spun off the track but could go on. This cost me another place to Iain who had been sneaking up on us ;D

Corvettes were awesome and very patient, thanks guys! Sorry to hear about all the connection problems, sucks when that happens... and I hope your injury gets better soon Robin!


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: GizMoTo on March 13, 2011, 10:09:03 PM +0000
well I really enjoyed that it was fun from start to finish everything seemed to just slide into place the mustang drivers where great for the entire race decisive lines so i knew where they were gona be made it east to judge the passing {apart from the first time past the Mustangs, sorry for a couple of the dives on the corners guys the closing speed was hard to judge at the beginning ;)


well done Steven on the win, there was nothing I could do other than try and keep the gap from getting to big ;)  well done Simon for your 3rd place

I'm more than happy with my second place  ;D

well done Dave Raimo and Adam on the Mustang podiums ;)

again a big thanks to everybody who raced it was a pleasure to run with you all cracking awareness in two massively unmatched cars

cy all for the next race  ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Robin Durrant on March 13, 2011, 10:09:38 PM +0000
Thanks Jasper,

So do I! Got the season up and coming and need to be fit for it!

I still hate Sebring :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 13, 2011, 10:19:39 PM +0000
I'll miss the race tonight, I don't feel well enough to make it to the end of an endurance. My eyes would probably esplode.

Sounds serious! :o :wheelchair: :helpsmilie:

Well I must one of the few who loves Sebring, especially in long races where a conservative approach pays dividends, avoiding the worst of the bumps and keeping things neat and tidy around the big old curbs.

I wasn't sure how much Jasper or Raimo were sandbagging in practice and I wasn't surprised to see Raimo get a lot closer in qualifying, but given a class pole and an inside line into turn 1 I was pretty confident, at least for the early laps. I caught myself out at the start and watched helpless as Raimo tucked neatly in front into turn 1... only to be shocked when he gave the place back straight away! You really didn't need to do that, mate, and I'd have had my only fight of the race retaking the place! :laugh:

So that put me back in the lead and the only remaining excitement I was going to have was worrying about whether or not to take tyres when I stopped. I originally planned not to, figuring that track position was more important than fresh rubber, but with a healthy 10 second lead just before half distance I changed my mind and changed my tyres, stopping a few laps ahead of my original plan just to cover the possibility that Raimo might pop in a few good laps on low fuel and then not change tyres himself.

As it turned out everyone else also changed rubber, though looking at my wear numbers (all better than 80%) I would've been fine to double stint them. When all the stops had shaken out I had an even more commanding lead, but kept pushing reasonably hard mostly to keep my concentration level up.

To top it off I finally got some really top notch doughnuts going after crossing the line. ;D

The championship now looks rather interesting going into the final round...


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Raimo Piiksi on March 13, 2011, 10:45:05 PM +0000
Great racing again guys

I got a really good run at the start, but with more than a car length head start at the start/finish line I called myself a jump start and gave the spot back to Dave. And with the speed of Dave today I would probably have run myself into the wall trying to stay ahead  :D
After start and the first lappings of the Corvettes I had a very lonely race. Dave just inched steady away and I inch steady away form Adam. After a long period with difficulty to keep focused and small mistakes I suddenly saw Adam and Jasper only 5-7 sec behind. This luckily sharpend my senses again and I managed to hold off until finish.

And yes I saw gap at 1 - 1.5 sec between Adam and Jasper for lots of laps..must have been a great battle guys :D


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Ste Jones on March 14, 2011, 12:42:16 AM +0000
Relatively straight-forward race for me really, although I wouldn't say it was easy. I'm still suffering the after-effects of a cold and even during practice I was working up a sweat, by lap 10 in the race I was dripping with it! Trying to keep concentration was the hardest thing and I somehow survived a few 'rather be lucky than good' moments during the race :)

I used a bit of cunning in qualifying and managed to get myself a clear lap, although not error free, but it was still enough for pole. As it happened it seemed everyone gave up early, so I may as well have waited for the last five minutes when no one was on track anyway! For the race, my plan was to try and push as hard as possible for about the first five or six laps and then try and consolidate on that. For once, the plan actually came together and worked out pretty much as intended.

I still managed to have a few scary moments. The first time we lapped the Mustangs I almost caught myself out at Cunningham with the closing speed, I changed down too many gears and just about scrabbled round the corner all over the kerb. A few laps later I had a straight on moment at Tower, then on lap 15 I had the biggest opposite lock moment that I've ever saved at Sunset. Sometimes luck really just is on your side :angel-wings:

Congrats to Ian and Shark and Dave, Raimo and Adam for getting the other podium spots. With the small field and a long lap it was getting quite lonely at times, so I was amusing myself watching the Mustang battle on F3, trying not to disturb them too much when I lapped them! There was also Gazza chasing down Dimm for fourth spot overall too. It was a bit weird 'spectating' other battles while I'm trying to race too ;D

As I said before, I'm really not sure if I can make Spa. I'm away that week and although I'll be back on the Sunday I've got no idea what time it will be. Hopefully I'll make it. Either way though, it's been a fun season 8)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 14, 2011, 08:36:08 AM +0000
That was excellent fun ;D

With Adam, Jasper and I so close in qually it was shaping up to be a decent scrap.

I was really annoyed with myself to get mugged by Robin at the start, I then lost a big chunk of time behind him as he was clearly stuggling but I couldn't find a way past until he span off.

I gradually pulled back on the Adam/Jasper scrap, picked up a place when Jasper went off and was right behind Adam when I had the accidental coming together with Simon. I have to admit a big chunk of misjudgement on my part, I left a gap then decided Simon was too far back and closed the gap again...  :-[

Luckily I was able to catch the ensuing slide and get back on track pretty quickly. That left me about 5-6 seconds behind Adam at the stop. I'm not sure what happened with the pit-stop... I assume I had some damage after the contact with Simon but although the pit clock kept ticking although it didn't say it was repairing any damage ??? Usually a tyre/fuel stop takes around 12s, when the clock hit 20s I got back on the gas and it let me go. Dunno if anyone else noticed anything odd?

The long stop allowed Jasper to jump back in front of me and I had an enormously frustrating second half of the race making too many mistakes to really make an impact on Adam/Jasper in front.

Luckily Jasper gifted me 4th place right at the end and the laps ran out before I could get close to Adam.

Grats to Dave / Raimo and Adam on the podiums, super drives by you guys  8)

Great driving by the Corvette's, thanks guys.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 14, 2011, 08:43:01 AM +0000
Sorry to hear you guys had disco's, I noticed you dropped at the same time :(

I wonder if there was some internet oddness between us and the iRacing servers last night? My Latency ('L' bar) sat just in the orange zone for the entire race, I've never seen that before ???


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 14, 2011, 08:44:32 AM +0000
Was ok on Virgin Media cable last night in the Harlow region, so I guess it was restricted to either a different area or ADSL or a specific ISP?


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 14, 2011, 09:35:34 AM +0000
although it didn't say it was repairing any damage ??? Usually a tyre/fuel stop takes around 12s, when the clock hit 20s I got back on the gas and it let me go. Dunno if anyone else noticed anything odd?

I thought my stop felt very slow too - though I could see the car moving around as they changed the tyres. I wonder if in the process of changing the damage model they've changed the normal stop procedure. ???

Was ok on Virgin Media cable last night in the Harlow region, so I guess it was restricted to either a different area or ADSL or a specific ISP?

My ADSL connection was fine all through last night.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 14, 2011, 09:44:56 AM +0000
After the last update I had a good test of the damage model. It was offline but (undamaged) pitstops took exactly the same amount of time (about 12s). Any 'proper' damage repair required would be accompanied by a "optional repairs" message which I definitely didn't see last night.

Because we had one 'fast repair/tow' turned on, according to the release notes, this should have repaired everything immediately anyway prior to changing the tyres and refuelling ???


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Gazza49er on March 14, 2011, 09:54:53 AM +0000
 :'( :'(   Yet again i throw away a good position!

Becoming a bit of a habit this, good pace all weekend, good qualy and then muck it all up in the race. Was banging in high 55's low 56's all weekend no problem so was quite pleased come race only to have problems right away. For some reason i kept locking up the brakes in the early laps which eventually made me spin and put me at the back of the Vettes, I had more problems braking at this track then any of the previous ones  ???

Even trying to catch up i couldn't get my normal times and was not really catching until i think the cars ahead had issues and was able to get on the back of James and Dimm. They swapped position a few times and eventually i had a go at getting past James which didn't really go to plan :-X

Lost a bit of time there and had a big gap to Dimm but i think i had some damage as it didn't feel quite right but still managed to get very close with a couple of laps but traffic put pay to any chance of getting him.

Grats to Steve and all other podiums.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 14, 2011, 11:16:01 AM +0000
I had more problems braking at this track then any of the previous ones  ???

That's the bumps for yer.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 14, 2011, 11:37:41 AM +0000
Because we had one 'fast repair/tow' turned on, according to the release notes, this should have repaired everything immediately anyway prior to changing the tyres and refuelling ???

Hmm, so it uses your "fast repair" even if you don't want it to? Perhaps you have minor damage you're happy to carry on with, but later you crash into the wall heavily. If it automatically uses your fast repair for the minor damage during a pit stop then you have lost your chance to use the fast repair for heavy damage later on.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: popabawa on March 14, 2011, 11:47:23 AM +0000
Hmm, so it uses your "fast repair" even if you don't want it to? Perhaps you have minor damage you're happy to carry on with, but later you crash into the wall heavily. If it automatically uses your fast repair for the minor damage during a pit stop then you have lost your chance to use the fast repair for heavy damage later on.

Yes, that's how it's worded although after last night I'm not 100% convinced it worked like that in practice :D

Remember though we're having to keep the fast tow/repair on for the Corvettes, once damage repair is enabled for all cars it won't be an issue as we'll probably tiurn off the fast tow/repair.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: mr_oily on March 14, 2011, 01:23:46 PM +0000
Summary on that one - fun while it lasted!

Didn't get much time to practice before Sunday and it wasn't until about 3pm I sat down to start getting my eye in. Bit of a rookie mistake but I practiced solidly up until the race and to be honest, think i probably overdid it. Always practice, leave for a bit and then practice again!

Felt I had a good pace in practice anyway, mid 55's quite doable on low fuel but took the decision to run on full tanks in qually in favour of not punching above my weight and ending up defending hard in the opening stages. On reflection that was quite a dumb move - instead of being a couple of spots off where I thought I could be I was at the back of the pack with my team mate along side which is never pleasant (nothing personal Dimm ;)).

After an initial scrap where we could quite easily have binned it, I spent the opening part of the race just trying not to force the matter with Dimm - the rest of the pack were still in touch just about so it made sense to conserve tyres and find a rhythm and hope traffic would give me the opportunity to take the position without anyone needing to change underwear.

Aside from a brief scuffle with what I'm guessing was a damaged Reign Man (sorry for the slide wide mate!) and some interesting moments in traffic that was about it until as Gary mentioned, we had a little coming together around lap 16'ish. The second example of really poor collision detection in that race - we should have both made it out without issue but the iRacing Gods took it upon themselves to fire me around the front of Gazza's car and into the tyre barrier (honest!).

I did a fast tow but 2:30 down and with the prospect of potentially ruining a Stang driver's race I pulled it back into the pits. Seconds later I was disco'd so perhaps that would have happened anyway who knows.

Not a good outing points wise but I absolutely loved the balance of the Vette around here - a few clicks back on the brake bias from the fixed setup and it felt perfectly set up. Any "moments" weren't really surprises as they often are for me in iR, perhaps the odd snatched wheel but overall it felt surprisingly hooked up.

Anyway grats to Steve - is there any chance of a replay of that .55 dead lap - have to see the pedal movement! Awesome pace mate, I take hat off. Grats to Ian and Simon too, not forgetting Raimo for another solid finish in the Stangs - such a shame you didn't make it Dario!

Oh yeah - Karsten, I'll be expecting you back at Spa son - no excuses!

Just a quick couple of reminders...

a) please report all incidents you've been involved in - we've all been a bit relaxed with this but it really helps moderation so would be appreciated

b) it's mandatory you all attend the iRoC event this Sunday  ;D

(http://www.upl.co/uploads/srouROCround2200311.jpg)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Adam Parle on March 15, 2011, 08:27:13 AM +0000
Just to echo what Oily has said - please do report incidents you were involved in.  You don't need to be looking for a penalty to report things, but moderation of the incidents will lead to an increase in the overall drivign standards.


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: GizMoTo on March 15, 2011, 11:17:46 AM +0000
Just to echo what Oily has said - please do report incidents you were involved in.  You don't need to be looking for a penalty to report things, but moderation of the incidents will lead to an increase in the overall drivign standards.

wish I could assist you but quite honestly this race was so well driven by all I had any dealings with there is nothing at all to report ;D ;D ;D ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: mr_oily on March 15, 2011, 11:26:05 AM +0000
Just pick a Team Oldie driver at random Ian, if you specify a five minute window you'll normally catch something  ;D.

Actually there weren't any racing  :o. What's going on, have they all been banned already?


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Gazza49er on March 15, 2011, 11:30:28 AM +0000
Well ive randomly thrown my car off the track twice now when Ian's been behind me so i could report him for some kind of evil mind trick on the back of my car  :D :D


Title: Re: iRacing Season Five Endurance - Sebring International - Mar 13
Post by: Ste Jones on March 15, 2011, 08:33:03 PM +0000
Anyway grats to Steve - is there any chance of a replay of that .55 dead lap - have to see the pedal movement! Awesome pace mate, I take hat off...
Sure mate, here (http://www.tradeshot.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/1.55.000_SJ.rar) you go :)  Not a perfect lap but it did the job! ;D