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Track:	Silverstone (GP)
Cars:	Radical SR8 or Riley Daytona Prototype
Practice:	18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying:	20:30 (15 mins)
Race:	20:45 34 laps (approx 60 mins)
Resets:	One fast tow
Start procedure:	Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
Pit stops:	One mandatory stop
Password:	see above (#post_event_password) (only available on evening of race)]
Teamspeak info:	https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5646.0

Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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It's just been pointed out that I forgot to post the race thread.  Apologies.

Anyone done any serious practice yet?  The Rads being at the Historic circuit this week means there's a good opportunity to practice and I expect a full grid. ;)

I was doing 1:45s when I practised last week but I expect the quick boys to be a little quicker.

Paul
:)

Yes I'll be there this time, although I think it will be a DP benefit at this track with the DP's in the 40 or 41s bracket.

Regards
Gary

I'm at work late tonight but I should be able to start a practice server just after 6.  If I have problems Gary will do one around 8.

Paul
:)

Not sure I will be back in time for this  :'(

Looking forward to this one, although I think 40-41s may be optimistic, Gary ;)

Once you've factored in tyre wear and fuel consumption it'll be a much closer fight methinks. The real saving grace for the DP is that if one can get a good exit from Chapel behind a Radical it'll be powerless to resist and the DP will be through before Stowe.

Really fancied this one but looks like it's not happening! Shouldn't have done the race last night really - had a niggle in one of the muscles in my leg beforehand and following 45 mins of braking with a load cell it now feels utterly buggered to the point where I can hardly walk LOL! Definitely not going to be in the driving seat for a few days I'm afraid, just praying it's alright for the enduro!

Not sure if you do already Paul but it might be worth a mention on the iRacing forums if you want to grab a few extra heads.

You wouldn't be sandbagging would you Brendan?

Regards
Gary

I've tried it various times, I've PM'd people, not one new person has turned up.

The problem is not getting new people, it's getting the existing people to turn up.  If you're relying on getting new people al the time then I don;t see the great advantage of a league TBH.

I wish......

Yep I wish I had the answer mate, it's like a black art.

Keep up with the PM's etc though - fresh faces can only be a good thing, occasionally they hang around and turn into existing people!

I've just noticed there's maintenance tonight at 22:00 and new hosted sessions are disabled after 18:00 so I'll start it just beforehand.

Sorry guys, I got busy at work and missed the cut. :(

Bets to read the release notes for tonight's release guys as there are implications for tomorrow's race:

Riley DP

- Now has a new pit crew, who can make repairs to the motor, body panels, and suspension.
- Collision strengths updated so the car responds more realistically to impacts.

No more fast tows for the DP.  No change for the Radical.

Paul

Ok then 41's and 42's for the DP, how's that.

Regards
Gary

Maybe............ ;)

Yes, I wonder how quick you can get a Radical round there then ;)

 ;D

You sly old dog.

Not really, as Dave said the Rad is easy meat for a DP here, so the answer is definitely not quick enough :(

Regards
Gary

Don't know how I'm going to do here, I haven't had any proper practice yet :(

That's the win for Mike then.

Server on the way...

Dammit, joined with the wrong car. :-[

I seriously doubt it.  I've done 5 laps if I'm lucky.

Can't begin to explain how apoplectic with rage I am at this very moment.  :cursing:

A PB in Q looked to have wrapped up pole but I lost throughput with around 2 mins of the session remaining.  Kept calm and tried to rejoin only for the grey 'Connected' button to thwart me.  Withdrew from the session and tried again, same problem.  By the time I had rebooted the router it was too late and the session was closed.

Unbelievable!  :no:

Well if it makes you feel any better, whilst undoubtedly benefiting from your problems my PC crashed after leading for 27 laps.

Second race in three days. Time for some new bits I think.

I'm as happy as you are >:(

Gary

Well done to Dave, Paul and Mike assuming they finish in the same order as when I left.

Very bad luck you two.

We finished in the same order, I started on a heavier fuel load and ran very long, but I had dropped 6 seconds behind Paul before my stop.  Amazingly I still nearly leapfrogged him, coming out only 0.5s behind him.  I didn't have enough pace to challenge though and after a spin at becketts, I backed it off and brought it home.

I found that very hard work indeed, it's safe to say I'm not Silverstones biggest fan :)

I found it another one of those odd sessions, I was doing 42.2's yesterday but could not come close to it tonight.

I was hoping to give Brendan a bit more work than he expected.

This PC has been as good as good for a year but started playing up on Sunday, I'll retire it to office duties and get a Sandybridge setup I think.

Regards
Gary

Well that was a totally unexpected outcome after I stupidly joined the race with the wrong car. It was a particularly dumb mistake as I did the same thing in the Grand Touring race earlier and it was only dumb luck I ended up in the MX-5 Roadster and not one of the other cars for which I'd got no setup and done no practice.

As it was, once I realised what I'd done I pulled Mike's Spa setup from the TS site, and a Silverstone setup from elsewhere, and set about relearning a car I'd not driven for some considerable time. After a while it the driving style started to come back - a combination of classic slow in, fast out and not pansying about when getting back on the loud pedal - and Paul and I were trading the top spot in practice.

Brendan's lone DP just rubbed in my mistake, especially when he strode to the top of the heap, and eventually Gary stamped his authority on the Radical class.

In the meantime I'd come up with a hybrid setup based on bits from the two I'd be trying and some extra tweaks; it had the gentle understeer I prefer in the SR8 and removed the more snappish tendencies that had plagued me early in the session.

Qualifying went pretty well and I was pleased to be ahead of Paul; I figured I had little chance against Gary or Brendan. Terrible luck, Brendan, to get dropped out when you did - I couldn't quite understand why you ended up retired and not able to join and start from the pits. ??? The moral is , never retire from a session near its end. If it's not ready to rejoin, withdrawing won't help... (you can try restarting the iRacing Windows service but in my experience you just have to wait). If it's any consolation I'm doubly annoyed with my car selection mistake 'cause I'd have had an easy class win. :laugh: :angel:

That left me effectively on pole next to Gary, but I wasn't going to push my luck at the start and risk a black flag, so let him dictate the start and slotted in behind him and ahead of Paul.

After a couple of laps he started to break away; I wasn't sure whether my fuel would get me to half distance so I pushed fairly hard to try and build a gap over Paul. At first that was working and I stretched it to 5 seconds or so, but after a while my wrists in particular were getting tired as I'd done far more practice than usual because of the unfamiliar car, and Paul closed back up to about 2 seconds behind.

The fuel was a lap shy of what I needed so I bumped it up by one click and made my stop one lap short of half distance. That brought me back out quite a way behind Mike, Paul and Gary, but luckily just ahead of Ian.

I knew I was now in a critical phase, especially as Paul and Gary might well be going long and splash and dashing, so I peddled as hard as my sore hands would allow. Success! Paul exited the pits from his stop a few laps later, just a second behind, but behind. :D Gary made his stop and whilst he seemed to lose about 3 seconds to me he was still well ahead, and finally Mike stopped and had used a short fill strategy well to come out right behind Paul.

Now the fight was on for second; I was running out of strength and Paul was getting closer, only a little at a time but inexorably. Initially I hoped Mike might put some pressure on him, but he managed to open up a small gap before Mike had a spin or an off that dropped him back.

And then I saw a yellow flag followed by Gary's car stopped in the barriers on the outside of Club. :o At first I thought perhaps there'd been some sort of incident as he lapped Rob, but when he didn't move or reset I realised he'd either had a PC freeze or a disco, and sure enough after a minute the disco message loomed up. :-\ A terrible way to lose a win when he was cruising off to victory. :no:

There was no time for me to gloat, though - Paul was getting ever closer and I was starting to wonder if I had anything left in the tank to fend him off if he caught me. Luckily for me, I caught Rob in Brooklands and was able to get through without losing any time, whereas Paul caught him around T1 and lost a couple of seconds in the process.

With so little time left I redoubled my efforts and focused entirely on the road ahead and not the car behind to come home for a completely unexpected and frankly undeserved class and outright victory. :angel-wings:


I'm waiting till they can assure me I can get a SandyBridge board that doesn't slow cook its own SATA controllers. :clown:

p.s. Results up. ;)

Yes I had a leisurely stop Dave, just not making any mistakes.

The B3 revision boards are slowly creeping out.

I'm a bit baffled by my machine, its passing Intel Burn test and its not the graphics card. Hmmn, I'm having a run of things going wrong which is not pleasing me at all :(

Well done on the win anyway, you had good pace considering you were in the wrong car.

Its going to be tough to beat Mike for the Rad title now, tough but worth a try :D

Gary

Noted, cheers.

Anyway, you still won the DP race. ;)

Like Mike I'm not Silverstone's greatest fan, it's not a track that suits my style.  I'd been working fairly hard on the Historic circuit last week for the official series though so had a head start.

I couldn't quite get it together in qually for a 42 and that ultimately cost me.  At the start I managed to get a little gap to Mike but Dave was inexorably pulling away.  Gary's pace I already knew about so left him to get on with it.

When Dave came in early I knew I had to push to get past but again I failed to turn realisation into reality and he came out behind him.  That annoyed me and I started to go quicker and was catching him.  I had one eye on Mike though who was now pulling away on low fuel.  In the end though I just managed to keep him behind when he came out, though he was much closer.

I continued to catch Dave and edged a few extra tenths on Mike but just as I was getting close we had to lap Rob and I lost a couple of seconds.  I continued to push but unless Dave did something stupid I wasn't going to catch him then.  When I saw Mike had dropped back for some reason I eased off a little,

Despite the low turnout that was a very intense race as Dave, Mike and I were all on exactly the same pace.  The only difference at each phase was the fuel level.

When I saw Gary in the wall I guessed what had happened.  That puts me on top of the radical championship for now but the dropped score will hurt me.  I need to win at least one of the last two to have a chance I think and in this company that's a tall order.

Well done to Dave and Mike who both drove superbly.  Bad luck to Brendan and Gary.  With the grids we're getting we really don't need disconnections.

Paul
:)

I must be recursive. :laugh:

It rather depends on what actually came out.  :P

The pessimist in me would say I came last  :D

As I didn't turn a wheel in the race, should I even be allowed to score championship points?

what a night :-\ not been well for a few days some bug or something  but decided i would run the race even feeling so crap thought it might buck me up  ::)

practice time I couldn't concentrate for most of it couldn't keep the darn car on the track  ::) then the last 10 mins things came together and I not only could keep it on track but I was keeping a steady pace and lap times where coming down ;D
saw it was nearly qually time so went for a bathroom break so as ready for the race, no sooner did I get into the bathroom I felt horribly sick {not had much to eat for a few days and had only had some dry toast all day :-\} but sick I was   :(

finally got back to my driving seat with 30 seconds left of qualifying  :o so that was my qually time ::) ::) wouldn't have been any further up the grid than i was anyway so no biggy  ;D ;D ;D

rolling start lap  I was still feeling "queezy" and debating on if to give up and pull out but decided to stick in there to give everybody a rolling chicane later in the race to make things a little more exiting with so few drivers on the track ;)
race start  didn't push it thought I would take a couple laps to see how I was feeling, within 2 or 3 corners I found out as I went spinning off like a spinning top  :o  not got a clue what happened must have touched a curb  ::) this put me way off the "pack" so settled down to just running the 34 laps on my own and use it as a learn the car a bit more session and it worked  as the race went on I found I was handling the car better each lap ........trying different lines ,{some not very successful  ::)}  by the latter stages I was getting quite consistent times so all in all it turned out to be a good session for me learning wise  ;)

after race had to dash off feeling sick again  ::)



is a real pity the numbers are dropping off like they are  i near dropped the series early on but am glad i continued as it's got me to learn the radical a bit to the  point I may run some official races in it next season

anyway catch whoever is left for the next race  ;)

laters Ian

Why wait till next season?  This week the official series is running Infineon Long which is SRO's next venue as well.  There are some decent grids on Saturdays and a final race in Sunday evening at 9 which gets well attended.

Paul
:)

You made the effort and turned up.  You had a problem which wasn't your fault.

Paul
:)

cos I will be in the race in the Vette ;) and due to the lack of race days in the series I only have the time to concentrate on one of the cars, ideally I would like to run both cars and would IF the series was raced every day as it is  my slots are limited to mainly Thursday and occasionally Saturday,

Tuesday is taken up racing with you guys which I ain't dropping ;)
Wednesday it's not run
Thursday normally there are 2 time slots that are decent turnout races, 8 and 10, it's to tiring to run 2 races back to back so I run the Vette in one of those time slots,
Friday it's not run
Saturday I try and keep from racing as it's real life day apart from practising for Sundays race ;) I only race IF for some reason I can't finish/run a race on Thursday
Sunday is race with you guys again in the Endurance and now the Race of Champs series
Monday it's not run

next official season I may drop the Vette altogether fixed and mixed {I've run it for the last 4 or 5 seasons,}  and find a series that's run every day  so I'm not so limited and can pick when to race more often and maybe run the odd mixed class with the Radical just for fun

I thought you didn't score points unless you did at least one lap, otherwise people could just turn up, not bother racing and still get points (when fields are small, or multiclass racing when each class has more points scoring positions than the match the number of people racing in that class).

Guess that must have changed since the old days.

iRacing's exports don't show the difference between DNS and DNF. I raised the point again (http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1457890.page#3195365) in Tony Gardner's thread from earlier this week about what else they could do to help league racing, but I'm not holding my breath...

I did a little work a few weeks ago on extracting more data from the iRacing results page through various devious means, but it's a brittle interface at best and each new build has me hunting around in the page sources for changed or moved data. ::)

There are plenty of B3 revisions out there now but to be safe I bought SATA3 disks to go with it.

My cpu will no longer take an overclock, it will pass burn test at stock but it won't if I push it much, shame its been a good chip, low temps and volts. Oh well, new stuff arrives tomorrow.

Regards
Gary

Where was everyone this race?

When Brendan didnt join, and some others quit, guess only thing to do was troll around and just pickup points, even if it was nearly last. Race was very dull and boring lol

I was meant to be there was work took over.... normally try to make every iR event

is this the normal attendance for i-races? have been thinking of renewing my sub but if grids are just as low as the GTR events then just not worth it. I dont want an expensive hotlapping sim.  :-\

Mark, whilst some may not agree I think the Srou sprint races are finished while some of the official races now get very good attendance.

I really do enjoy racing Dave, Mike, Brendan, Simon, Paul, James and many others but the attendance is too low here now. I'll run the last two races but unless the situation can be reversed I will start finding a series I'd like to run in the official races.

I don't think the problem is iRacing, its that iRacing's concept is now becoming successful and the leagues (not just this one) are suffering because of it.

Regards
Gary

I'm not so sure of that, I'd still much rather do league racing against the same familiar people week in week out rather than attend the random grids the official races throw up. The problem I have is lack of skill and practice time. I can't jump between the cars in the same way I can in the Simbin game collection and race safely. It's simply that lack of skill & practice time that keeps me away from the Tuesday events currently. I'd hope to run more as I improve slowly with iR.

Pete don't get me wrong I'd love to continue racing here, whilst I had a long layoff from UKGPL days (02-08) I always intending to race here. Trouble is the fields just aren't big enough :(

Gary

As I prefer Endurance racing, that's been taking priority and I just don't have the skill to jump into another car without mucho practice and that's where the time constraints come in :(

If it were a car that required less prep I'd be there, the DP and Radical are like a full-time job for me to get comfortable in.

The way the main league series are working now means that people tend to race at the same time every week.  On Saturday nights I'm racing against basically the same guys in the the Rad/Corvette series with other occasionals bulking up the fields.  How is league racing fundamentally different?

If everyone just wants to do endurance racing then fine, no problem I'll race somewhere else.  Practising hard to race in a grid of half a dozen people is a waste of time.

Why did the Legends team stop racing Tuesdays en bloc by the way?  Did we do something wrong?

Late Model FTW! ;D :angel:

 ::)

There's lots of individual reasons why the guys aren't racing much at the moment. I think it's because we generally prefer endurance racing although we're not even turning out in force for that at the moment :(

Gary has a point, there's always the official series, being able to race at different times when it suits is a big deal for some people when they can't commit to a certain slot each week.