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Title: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 09, 2011, 08:04:46 PM +0000
As a proud Brit, I suggested some off season fun races based on British Circuits. As a complete idiot I volunteered to join the Mod Team. So - they welcomed me and told me to get on with organising 'my' series. So a quick four race, two night dash round some British classics. I have picked the circuits for historical value as the four tracks are the only British circuits to have held official F1 Grand Prix. I have mixed up the mods to run to give everyone a chance of something new (I hope). We will run double headers as the off season neatly includes my first trip to Tenerife where GPL is not so big! Who will be the next 'British' world champion? (better not be Hristo then) ;) As we will be running on Tuesday nights I am expecting a BIG turnout from my Novice mates!

The schedule is:

29 March Double Header
Donnington Park National / Aintree
5 April  Double Header
Brands Hatch/Silverstone

Points Scoring (per race);
Standard Points Positions 1-19:
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30 - 25 - 21 - 18 - 16 - 14 - 13 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_?? To be confirmed!
IP address = To be confirmed!
Race date (races 1 and 2) = 29-03-2011 (Tuesday)
Race date (races 3 and 4) = 05-04-2011 (Tuesday)
Tracks = 29 March 1) Donnington Park National / 2) Aintree
Tracks = 5 April 3) Brands Hatch 67/ 4) Silverstone

Time = 21:00 UK time
Variant = (race 1), 29 March - 65F1 (using the updated 65 Mod)
Variant = (race 2), 29 March - 67 F2 Trainer (note this is NOT the new F2 Mod but the standard Papy 67 trainer)
Variant = (race 3), 5 April - GT - Porsche only
Variant = (race 4), 5 April - 67 Mod
Damage Model = INT
Chassis = free choice
Qually time = 15 minutes per event (server will start at 20 mins)
Race length = Int-Short


Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time
Race password: open race

The tracks can be downloaded from :
Donnington Park National - http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1287
Aintree - http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1284 (Aintree_Full_v2.zip)
Brands Hatch - http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/brands1967/ (HiRes version)
Silverstone - If you haven't got Silverstone, you are in trouble!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 09, 2011, 09:59:07 PM +0000
I've always liked the British countryside and forests, so you can pretend I'm one of you.  ;D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 09, 2011, 10:18:12 PM +0000
Plenty of countryside and forest to visit trackside...


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: blito on March 10, 2011, 07:05:58 AM +0000
I`m up for this ... used to do Aintree with the F2`s years ago and was always a laugh..


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 10, 2011, 09:41:45 AM +0000
Good to know you are on board mate. Looking forward to some wheel to wheel already


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 10, 2011, 02:26:34 PM +0000
Sounds too good to miss Paul. Count me in.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 10, 2011, 03:51:25 PM +0000
Right - up to four entries now.  :thumbup2: That's my podium gone though... ;)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: vosblod on March 10, 2011, 04:42:35 PM +0000
Did you want people to sign up? Was under the impression it was just turn up and race. Anyway you can count me in provisionally.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on March 10, 2011, 06:57:48 PM +0000
Even if I'm not a Brit I will join you!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 10, 2011, 07:47:46 PM +0000
You are my team mate - that makes you an honorary Brit  :laugh:

My sister married an Italian as well so we are practically brothers...  ;D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 10, 2011, 09:09:40 PM +0000
Did you want people to sign up? Was under the impression it was just turn up and race. Anyway you can count me in provisionally.

Nope - its just turn up and race but I think people have got that impression from Evil's GT series. This is strictly for fun!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 10, 2011, 09:59:05 PM +0000
Apologies if I'm being stupid but help me Paul, what exactly is a standard Papy 67 trainer?? Basic, advanced or what?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 10, 2011, 10:22:19 PM +0000
Uh oh - I KNEW I should have stuck to the standards... The F2 Trainer.  So that is the 'Advanced' chassis. The basic chassis is the novice trainer - NOT that one. OK?

I'll try and put up a practice session on iGOR


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: bernie on March 11, 2011, 01:05:26 AM +0000
Aintree being about 15km up the east lancs road from me should feel like home frome home , plus being a member of Liverpool Car Club I should know my way around .

Sadly the main GP circuit is now mostly demolished and the bit still in use will probably succomb to the developers hammer before to long    :(





Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 11, 2011, 06:30:22 PM +0000
Come and see it in its heyday then Bernie :)

I've put up a test server for Aintree with Novice settings. I'll change it to Donnington next week.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on March 15, 2011, 12:19:51 PM +0000
Ah F2! my first love with GPL.  :)
Cya on track!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 15, 2011, 01:42:03 PM +0000
Speed you drive Fulvio, doubt I'll see you much at all ;)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: natan5 on March 16, 2011, 09:58:34 AM +0000
does former british colonies counting ? ;D
cheers
natan


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 16, 2011, 01:21:27 PM +0000
does former british colonies counting ? ;D

I would imagine it actually gives them an extra incentive to challenge the brits and take revenge.  ;)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: natan5 on March 16, 2011, 01:30:16 PM +0000
HaHa !!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't munched it !!!!!!!!!!
It was 60 years ago !!!!!!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 16, 2011, 06:40:37 PM +0000
As you know Britain is VERY welcoming - more the merrier :)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: EvilClive on March 20, 2011, 08:46:43 PM +0000
Just to make my life a little less confusing, can someone tell me which carset I should load in GEM for the F2's??

I have 1967FL , 1967FD , 1967FG and 1967FV???



Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 20, 2011, 09:01:51 PM +0000
Advanced trainer instead of standard chassis I believe.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: EvilClive on March 20, 2011, 09:10:45 PM +0000
Yes that is fine within GPL offline I can select the "Advanced Trainer"option, but in Gem all I have are the above categories and I need to load the correct carset for F2's....or am I missing something ( again)??


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 21, 2011, 12:01:19 AM +0000
Sorry Clive, I should have thought of this. I don't think you need to activate the carsets because the 'F2' in iGOR is the Advanced trainer AFAIK - if you change the 'Standard Chassis' drop down to 'Advanced Trainer'  (middle right of the screen - [grandma suck suck]) that does the trick with the full GP67 Carset.

If you want to do it through Carsets you get different chassis.

gpl.exe (standard '67 Grand Prix and Advanced and Basic Trainers)
gplcfd.exe (FD cars - F1 chassis, Advanced Trainer engine)
gplcfg.exe (FG cars - F1 chassis, Basic Trainer engine)
gplcfv.exe (FV cars - Advanced Trainer chassis, BT engine)

No idea what the BT engine is though! I think that FD will give you a different experience to iGOR's 'F2' setting.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on March 21, 2011, 11:06:32 AM +0000
FD have the same grip of F1, but with F2 engine and use the same setup extension of F1. F2 have smaller tires than F1 so less grip and use xx2 estension for setups.
BT engine = Basic Trainer engine ;)
Ciao


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 21, 2011, 01:11:45 PM +0000
Cheers Fulvio.

Am I right in thinking that the iGOR 'F2' is the Advanced Trainer chassis and engine?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 21, 2011, 01:36:51 PM +0000
You can easily determine that. Start GPL offline, run the advanced trainer, create a setup. Go back to Igor, run the so called F2 and see if the setup appears as a choice from the menu or not.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 21, 2011, 02:26:46 PM +0000
Thanks H. I'll try that tonight.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on March 21, 2011, 03:07:54 PM +0000
Cheers Fulvio.

Am I right in thinking that the iGOR 'F2' is the Advanced Trainer chassis and engine?
Yes, you're.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 21, 2011, 03:39:14 PM +0000
Tx :)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 29, 2011, 03:14:07 PM +0100
Looks like I'll be missing tonight as I've pulled my back  ::)

Should be back for the next round....


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Fragfritz on March 29, 2011, 07:43:39 PM +0100
How does one get into the iGOR UKGPL chatroom?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 29, 2011, 07:48:56 PM +0100
Channel name #ukgpl
Channel key savage


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: blito on March 29, 2011, 09:41:13 PM +0100
 Sorry for not being able to attend this event as planned. I've been involved in an RTA and its kind of screwed my day up nicely. No one was hurt but I had to wait for four hours for the tow-truck to pick up my crippled van and I've only got just got home.
Shame to have missed this one because I had practised long and hard and was starting to put solid times in - 1:14s at Donny and 1:53`s at Aintree.
Hope you all had fun and see you all on friday for Adelaide.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 29, 2011, 11:15:34 PM +0100
Glad to hear you are OK. Missed you.

It was ....

... different :D

Not quite the turn out I had hoped for but we had some fun. I was in the 1:55s at Aintree but my PC blew up and I lost my setups. Couldnt figure it out in qually and the Honda was awful. Discoed as I was approaching the line. Better than Donny though :( I had gone round the track five or six times but I didnt really know it and it was like starting the novices again. All over the place. <sigh>


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: bernie on March 29, 2011, 11:37:51 PM +0100
Donny was undergeared    :-\

Aintree was understeered  :-\

Had a bit of fun in Aintree (donut contest with the "Antipodian in a Whale")   for a few laps until some scouse nicked me inner tubes whilst passing the grandstands  ;D

Felt a bit deflated after that  :D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 30, 2011, 09:28:27 AM +0100
Results for the first two races are in - moderation was 'no names, no pack drill'.

Standings after two races are:

Fulvio            55 pts
Evil               48 pts
Ronnie           39 pts - placed higher than Natan because of 2nd at Aintree
Natan            39 pts
Nigel              32 pts
Bernie            29 pts
Badblood        25 pts (plus a possible bonus of 25 points for coming second in a practice race to Goran, in a race of two. Ahem)
Maddog         16 pts
Fragfritz        11 pts

So, and I may never get to say this again, its all to play for going into the final week of the series :D

Well done to Fulvio and Clive for the wins. See you all at Brands in a week.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: EvilClive on March 30, 2011, 12:58:18 PM +0100
I enjoyed these fun races.

65's at Donny was a bit of a surprise in the Cooper. I did not expect to be as competitive as it turned out, especially as I discovered just before the race started that I was only using 5 gears not 6??!!

F2's at Aintree were even more of a shock to the system!! Boy that took some getting used to!!.

Fulvio was the class of the field and although as I got used to these cars and the handling I could not quite close the gap. Oh!! and running out of fuel 2 laps from the end didn't exactly help much, allowing Rocket Ronnie to regain his second place which I thought I had safely under my control!!

Thanks to Paul for something a bit different. I have had GPL for about 10 years and have never even tried the trainers before. It felt like I imagine a Formula Ford race feels in real life, always waiting for a rush of power that never materialises!!  :-\  Great fun and I think we should do it again sometime.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: maddog on March 30, 2011, 02:28:12 PM +0100
I was WS - without setup, on arrival at Donnington.  I soon struck gold, amongst all the recently aborted F1 modifications, to the track, and was almost able to hang with he leaders, in the early laps.  But I managed to loose track of the track, a couple of times, and on the last lap, I almost ran out of fool! Grumble!  Luckily, there was just enough of me, to limp over the line, a disappointed 5th.  :(


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on March 30, 2011, 05:23:55 PM +0100
I had a lot of fun Paul. Two tracks ripe for cutting and the Advanced Trainer car which, like Clive, I have never driven before until you pointed them out. This event was well worth your effort and I'm looking forward to the final two outings. Thanks.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on March 30, 2011, 06:22:19 PM +0100
Shame, I really forgot about it! :'(


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 30, 2011, 08:55:14 PM +0100
Right Fabio - if you don't turn up next week I won't let you take part in any more Brit Fun races! :D

Hope to see you next week.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 31, 2011, 01:06:06 AM +0100
I have put up a Brand Hatch server for the Porsche race next week. I am testing this installation so please let me know by PM if you have any problems.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Fragfritz on March 31, 2011, 07:56:11 PM +0100
Just grabbed the GT mod and looking forward to trying things out. Anyone have a suggested setup for the Porsche?

I was wondering if it is possible to enforce a fixed set up via the server. I remember seeing it in Nascar 2003 multiplayer, you would go to a track and everyone used the same set up, provided by that server. That could lead to some very interesting battles, if done over a series of races, I would think.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: vosblod on March 31, 2011, 08:01:50 PM +0100
I was wondering if it is possible to enforce a fixed set up via the server. I remember seeing it in Nascar 2003 multiplayer, you would go to a track and everyone used the same set up, provided by that server. That could lead to some very interesting battles, if done over a series of races, I would think.
As far as I know that's not possible. Might be some interesting debates as to what setup to use if you could.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 31, 2011, 08:40:44 PM +0100
As long as the fixed setups are my own, I'm fine with the idea!  ;D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: bernie on March 31, 2011, 08:50:02 PM +0100
Will you sportscar types please sod off elsewhere , this is an open wheeler thread  >:(

For proper racers  ;D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on March 31, 2011, 11:48:48 PM +0100
Just wind the windows down Bernie....


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: blito on April 01, 2011, 06:50:38 AM +0100
Fritz - my suggestions for a porka setup.

set the diff to 60/60 1, raise the ride height, stiffen the springs, reduce the rebound, reduce the bump rubbers.


Now watch H come along and say the exact opposite :D



Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 01, 2011, 08:24:03 AM +0100
Somewhat, Blito. The Porsche is so stable and near impossible to spin off, that you should make it as low as possible and neither too soft or stiff, though it depends on the track. 60/60/1 is a good diff, specifically for Adeliaide I used 45/60/1 the last time, but 45/45 works fine too, as well as 60/45. It really depends on the driving style, i.e. how much throttle you use under braking and how sensitive you are with the throttle on exit, and how much steering you tend to apply.

As for bump/rebound, it's fine tuning, but it can make a big difference in the stability of the car when it transitions between deceleration and acceleration. Because it's also related to how the suspension handle bumps and curbs, there's no general tip I can give for that - tackle each track separately.

Down below is a link to my Porsche setup which I used in the BREASTS race on Wednesday. I managed to do a 1:30.95 with it when the fuel went down. By memories I did mid or low 31 in the Chap 2F a few weeks earlier when we raced at Adelaide again, so the two cars are closely matched over a lap. I suspect the 2F would get the upper hand in a race, because it will pass the Porsche with ease while the latter has to rearend the 2F in corners, lol. I don't know for the other cars though, not raced them enough.

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/downloads/Adelaide%20Chap%202F%20and%20Porsche%20setups.zip

P.S. Also included the Chap 2F setup in the ZIP.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 01, 2011, 10:00:26 AM +0100
What he doesnt say Jason is that in that BREATS race I led him for a while (never thought I'd say that!).

H. Don't go and spoil it by saying for how long - there were at least two corners :D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Fragfritz on April 05, 2011, 05:11:15 PM +0100
>I managed to do a 1:30.95

At Brands???? Wow, I'll be way off the pace with my 1:47 flat.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 05, 2011, 06:13:49 PM +0100
It was Adelaide but I wouldn't put it past him to do it at Brands!

If you can do 1:47 consistently you'll beat me - I find Brands really tough. Looking forward to the battle FF. We double letter drivers need to stick together :D


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 05, 2011, 06:33:05 PM +0100
Yes, I meant it for Adelaide of course.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Fragfritz on April 05, 2011, 07:17:20 PM +0100
>Looking forward to the battle FF. We double letter drivers need to stick together Cheesy

It's a race then!!!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on April 05, 2011, 10:37:09 PM +0100
Not one of my best nights ever... ::)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 05, 2011, 11:29:35 PM +0100
Results are up.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: vosblod on April 05, 2011, 11:34:39 PM +0100
Results are up.
Out of interest Paul are you using the new (GT) version of GPLRA and did you have to remap the cars?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 05, 2011, 11:57:16 PM +0100
Yes and Yes. This running a race lark is knackering!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 12:48:19 AM +0100
Right here is the final result.

Our champion is EvilClive   :thumbup2: :thumbup2: :thumbup2:, just pipping Fulvio (hard luck) with Ronnie in third a bit further back.

Well done Clive and thank you to everyone who took part for their support. Particular thanks to Fulvio for sorting out the server for me.

I thought it would be interesting to compare what would happen with the various different scoring systems. I make no comment apart from saying that the new system does seem to reward attendance without altering the results for the top drivers. Whichever system is used, the top three remain the same!

Using 30 25 21 18 16 14 13 12 etc.

Evil      3, 1, 1, 3 = 21 + 30 + 30 + 21 = 102
Fulvio    1, 2, 3, 2 = 30 + 25 + 21 + 25 = 101
Ronnie    2, 6, 4, 5 = 25 + 14 + 18 + 16 = 73
Nigel     6, 4, 7,10 = 14 + 18 + 13 + 10 = 55
Badblood  7, 8, 9, 7 = 13 + 12 + 11 + 13 = 49
Maddog    0, 5, 6, 4 = 16 + 14 + 18      = 48
Gj        0, 0,11, 1 =  9 + 30           = 39 Best: 1st place
Cookie    0, 0, 2, 6 = 25 + 14           = 39 Best: 2nd place
Natan     4, 3, 0, 0 = 18 + 21           = 39
Fragfritz 0, 9,12, 9 = 11 +  8 + 11      = 30
Bernie    5, 7, 0, 0 = 16 + 13           = 29
Fabio     0, 0, 8,11 = 12 +  9           = 21
Blito     0, 0, 5, 0 = 16                = 16
Skymole   0, 0, 0, 8 = 12                = 12
Hristo    0, 0,10, 0 = 10                = 10

Using 50, 41, 33, 26, 21, 15, 11, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Evil      3, 1, 1, 3 = 50 + 33 + 33 + 50 = 166
Fulvio    1, 2, 3, 2 = 50 + 41 + 33 + 41 = 164
Ronnie    2, 6, 4, 5 = 41 + 15 + 26 + 21 = 103
Maddog    0, 5, 6, 4 = 21 + 15 + 26      = 62
Natan     4, 3, 0, 0 = 26 + 33           = 59
Goran     0, 0,11, 1 =  8 + 50           = 58
Nigel     6, 4, 7,10 = 15 + 26 + 11 +  5 = 57
Cookie    0, 0, 2, 6 = 41 + 15           = 56
Badblood  7, 8, 9, 7 = 11 +  8 +  6 + 11 = 36
Bernie    5, 7, 0, 0 = 21 + 11           = 32
Blito     0, 0, 5, 0 = 21                = 21
Fragfritz 0, 9,12, 9 =  6 +  3 +  6      = 15
Fabio     0, 0, 8,11 =  8 +  4           = 12
Skymole   0, 0, 0, 8 =  8                =  8
Hristo    0, 0,10, 0 =  5                =  5

Using 50, 45, 40, 36, 32, 28, 25, 22, 19, 17, 15, 13, 12, 11 etc.

Evil      3, 1, 1, 3 = 50 + 40 + 40 + 50 = 180 More 1st places
Fulvio    1, 2, 3, 2 = 50 + 45 + 40 + 45 = 180
Ronnie    2, 6, 4, 5 = 45 + 28 + 36 + 32 = 141
Nigel     6, 4, 7,10 = 28 + 36 + 25 + 17 = 106
Maddog    0, 5, 6, 4 = 32 + 28 + 36      = 96
Badblood  7, 8, 9, 7 = 25 + 22 + 19 + 25 = 91
Natan     4, 3, 0, 0 = 36 + 40           = 76
Cookie    0, 0, 2, 6 = 45 + 28           = 73
Goran     0, 0,11, 1 = 15 + 50           = 65
Bernie    5, 7, 0, 0 = 32 + 25           = 57
Fragfritz 0, 9,12, 9 = 19 + 13 + 19      = 51
Fabio     0, 0, 8,11 = 22 + 15           = 37
Blito     0, 0, 5, 0 = 32                = 32
Skymole   0, 0, 0, 8 = 22                = 22
Hristo    0, 0,10, 0 = 17                = 17



Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 06, 2011, 08:44:58 AM +0100
Applying the points systems to a 4-race series, without dropping worst results, proves nothing to how it relates to the 10-race divs. If anything, it's true that it rewards attendance over fighting for higher position in the race. Besides, you're giving points even to those who retired and didn't cover the 50% distance, which is what we'll have next season.

Anyway, my bigger concern right now is the screen freeze that a couple of us experienced, myself and Goran at the same time, which hints there's something going on at server's end.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: G Jonsson on April 06, 2011, 09:09:27 AM +0100
There was some muttering about that I did not do a S&G after my shifr-r at Silverstone but I can not see anything about it in the race announcements so I guess I did not have to do it, right Paul?

Anyway, thanks for organizing this series Paul.

Göran


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: EvilClive on April 06, 2011, 10:06:54 AM +0100
That was a close run thing!!  grats to Fulvio and Ronnie and everyone who joined in.

Thanks to Paul, for a nice mixture of events...the F2's were something completely different, which is probably why I was rubbish in that event  lol!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: bernie on April 06, 2011, 10:35:44 AM +0100
Dohhh !  forgot this was on  :stupid:


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 10:51:34 AM +0100
There was some muttering about that I did not do a S&G after my shifr-r at Silverstone but I can not see anything about it in the race announcements so I guess I did not have to do it, right Paul?

Anyway, thanks for organizing this series Paul.

Göran
You're right Goran, sry for the confusion, too many league races :)
Anyway I binned the win at Silver at last lap when I went out at T1 to not rear end a Lotus that braked early than me. I had to reset and in the meantime Goran passed by and as it was last lap I went to pit to stop and go before pass the S/F line. Luckily I didn't manage to stop before the line so Clive was still third. The comic is that at midrace I waited for Goran thinking he had had a crash lapping a car so it wasn't fair to let him in the dust and we could have had a nice battle till the end. In effect Goran didn't have a crash, but he blew the engine and had to reset ;(
Grats to Clive!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 11:09:24 AM +0100

Anyway, my bigger concern right now is the screen freeze that a couple of us experienced, myself and Goran at the same time, which hints there's something going on at server's end.
Hristo I have still to check if there was a problem on the server during the race, anyway talking with JR after the race he confirmed that Brands67 has many freez problems as a track and GT mod doesn't help on that. Many, me included had very bad fps for all the first lap. When we raced last time with GT at Brands this didn't happen. So I'm asking if a full field of Porsche could be the culprit. And again I suspect that Paul didn't set the bandwith parameters appropriately, so this could be a problem too. I think we have to check again the Porsches before start the season IMO.
I checked Brands replay and Hristo and Goran got disco at the very same time, there were other discos?
Anyone got freezed at Silver?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 11:47:30 AM +0100
Two apologies to make - one I should have set the server bandwidth to 132 - it was 384 - sorry about that and two, I should have made it clear about the Shift R not requiring a stop n go.

I wasn't trying to prove anything about the points system, I just thought it would be interesting, As Hristo says, it is too short a series but it does provide a real life example.

Next year I am going to provide tracks I can actually drive lol.

I hope people enjoyed it - it was strange being the organiser - felt like a prefect ;)

That is me done for season 20. I am off for a holiday in Tenerife now so I will see you all after Easter.

Good racing!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 12:20:48 PM +0100
Have a nice Holiday and Easter Paul :)

Mmmhh 384 ? :o
I have to see what kind of result had on the server side.
Ciao


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 12:28:47 PM +0100
384 is, of course, the default


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 12:32:52 PM +0100
384 is, of course, the default
The default is 3/84 3/84, are you sure about the 384?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 12:37:49 PM +0100
Nope LOL

Probably was 84 then. 384 is out of the box (or at least it is for me). I didn't do an override at all. the only other thing was to put on a restriction of 500ms on the ping but that really should be ok?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Cookie on April 06, 2011, 01:05:01 PM +0100
The default is 384, but best is to set the server bandwidth to 132  ;)

Happened to just accidently join this event, by following Martin after his practice...

Love the Porky, even driving a setup I once made for my son was nice and handsome.
Had no idea of fuel consumption, so had to make a s+r with a lap to go :)

The great adventure was Silverstone, I know this track well by some GT events and by the driving lesson of Bernd Novak.
In between the two events I searched my archive for a Silver setup and found a RE setup for Lotus.
Just sat in the car and drove...
Went better and better every lap, of course with my being overcautious, but at the end had a nice fight with Martin which ended in a great crash.
Prib was showing the leaders from behind before the last corner, so I gave place to what I thought were them... 
So lost a place cause this italian Brabham had smuggled between ;D

Great fun Thanx Paul!

Axel

 


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: blito on April 06, 2011, 01:15:26 PM +0100
I had great fun doing the Brands race. Well done to BB for organising something different and I`m only sorry I didn't do all 4 races!


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 06, 2011, 01:30:05 PM +0100

Anyway, my bigger concern right now is the screen freeze that a couple of us experienced, myself and Goran at the same time, which hints there's something going on at server's end.
Hristo I have still to check if there was a problem on the server during the race, anyway talking with JR after the race he confirmed that Brands67 has many freez problems as a track and GT mod doesn't help on that. Many, me included had very bad fps for all the first lap. When we raced last time with GT at Brands this didn't happen. So I'm asking if a full field of Porsche could be the culprit. And again I suspect that Paul didn't set the bandwith parameters appropriately, so this could be a problem too. I think we have to check again the Porsches before start the season IMO.
I checked Brands replay and Hristo and Goran got disco at the very same time, there were other discos?
Anyone got freezed at Silver?

We've raced Brands so often, Fulvio, and not just in UKGPL. It's a solid track and I never experienced a freeze at it before. Only long ago, before it was patched up. Perhaps you have an older version installed on the server? Doubt it though... it's not just Brands, other tracks have been freezing lately, tracks which are otherwise stable and have been used without an issue in the past.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 01:30:56 PM +0100
Alex please don't confuse Paul, already enough  ;D

The typical mdm_bandwith of GPL without Bandwith Patch is set to 3/84 3/84, 5 cars visible, one of them behind.
T7 server has the Bandwith Patch set to 3 cars behind, and the core.ini set to 3/84 3/132, that means 8 cars visible, 3 of them behind.
So if you don't set anything on Igor about bandwith, the server default is already right.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 01:37:46 PM +0100
Afaik on T7 server there is a Brands67 Voodoo V1 installed.
Can you point to me the patch please?
Ciao


Anyway, my bigger concern right now is the screen freeze that a couple of us experienced, myself and Goran at the same time, which hints there's something going on at server's end.
Hristo I have still to check if there was a problem on the server during the race, anyway talking with JR after the race he confirmed that Brands67 has many freez problems as a track and GT mod doesn't help on that. Many, me included had very bad fps for all the first lap. When we raced last time with GT at Brands this didn't happen. So I'm asking if a full field of Porsche could be the culprit. And again I suspect that Paul didn't set the bandwith parameters appropriately, so this could be a problem too. I think we have to check again the Porsches before start the season IMO.

I checked Brands replay and Hristo and Goran got disco at the very same time, there were other discos?
Anyone got freezed at Silver?

We've raced Brands so often, Fulvio, and not just in UKGPL. It's a solid track and I never experienced a freeze at it before. Only long ago, before it was patched up. Perhaps you have an older version installed on the server? Doubt it though... it's not just Brands, other tracks have been freezing lately, tracks which are otherwise stable and have been used without an issue in the past.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 01:51:53 PM +0100
Alex please don't confuse Paul, already enough  ;D

The typical mdm_bandwith of GPL without Bandwith Patch is set to 3/84 3/84, 5 cars visible, one of them behind.
T7 server has the Bandwith Patch set to 3 cars behind, and the core.ini set to 3/84 3/132, that means 8 cars visible, 3 of them behind.
So if you don't set anything on Igor about bandwith, the server default is already right.

Sorry mate - when I launched from Igor it was set to 3/84 on the client side and 3/384 on the server side [but DEDFINITELY not 132]. That must pick up from MY core.ini or, more likely, be 'remembered' from iGOR.

My fault, anyway but it definitely was not set to 132.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 06, 2011, 02:06:08 PM +0100
So lost a place cause this italian Brabham had smuggled between ;D

Sorry Axel but it was an invitation to pass I could not refuse.

Idiot that I am I took two stop and go penalties in the pits following two shift r's during the Silverstone race. Still good practice for next season.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 06, 2011, 02:22:23 PM +0100
By patch I meant that the track itself was fixed and re-released, so there isn't a separate patch. Not sure what I have, but it should be the same track as the one you can download from each Brands race announcement threads from the past few events we raced there.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Cookie on April 06, 2011, 02:47:07 PM +0100
Sorry Axel but it was an invitation to pass I could not refuse.
Idiot that I am I took two stop and go penalties in the pits following two shift r's during the Silverstone race. Still good practice for next season.

 ;D AH was your alter ego! ;D

So you really deserved it!

Cheers
Axel


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 03:02:25 PM +0100
So lost a place cause this italian Brabham had smuggled between ;D

Sorry Axel but it was an invitation to pass I could not refuse.

Idiot that I am I took two stop and go penalties in the pits following two shift r's during the Silverstone race. Still good practice for next season.

Wondered how the hell I was racing you in a knobbled Eagle. Raced well last night at Silvy but car just didn't have the top speed to defend. Went out and did ten laps this morning and averaged 1:34.7! That would have got me fourth place.

By patch I meant that the track itself was fixed and re-released, so there isn't a separate patch. Not sure what I have, but it should be the same track as the one you can download from each Brands race announcement threads from the past few events we raced there.

Hmmm - I wonder if I posted the right track. Sorry again, if not.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 06, 2011, 03:42:55 PM +0100
Regardless of what you posted, I think Fulvio had it installed well before this race anyway, unless we used a different server when we last raced Brands before this event or if Fulvio reinstalled GPL on the server.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: maddog on April 06, 2011, 04:14:38 PM +0100
During last nights 2 races, I was bumped from behind, 3 times.  I have consequently formed the opinion, I have merely acquired the skills of a mobile chicane . . .  but a fast one, I tell ye! :P


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 06, 2011, 04:30:53 PM +0100
During last nights 2 races, I was bumped from behind, 3 times.  I have consequently formed the opinion, I have merely acquired the skills of a mobile chicane . . .  but a fast one, I tell ye! :P
Sorry Martin for the bumps, you had magnets on your rear :D
At Brands your car was always sideways on turns and I had an hard work to avoid you till we touched at T1, but I think in that occasion you had slowed down a bit too much. Low fps didn't help too.
At Silver last lap it was my fault, I misjudged your braking point, but I had the worst while you could continue unscathed.
Ciao


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: blito on April 06, 2011, 04:58:32 PM +0100
Martin - I could hardly stop myself from laughing when you went to lap Badblood and he baulked you completely... I dont think I`ve passed two cars at one corner before :)
Mind you, I felt like I had some good form last night and barring a few silly mistakes I felt right on it for once :)


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: BadBlood on April 06, 2011, 10:23:43 PM +0100
Whoops - when was that? I was not very controlled last night in the GTs. Funnily enough I drove at my best at Silverstone.

Sorry Martin, but sometimes you just can't help yourself.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: maddog on April 06, 2011, 11:07:21 PM +0100
Gentlemen . . . to err is human, to clash, divine.  To crash is less divine - but there's an unwritten rule in fun races, which says that cerebral interludes are allowed. :P


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: john roberts on April 06, 2011, 11:31:41 PM +0100
Hristo I have still to check if there was a problem on the server during the race, anyway talking with JR after the race he confirmed that Brands67 has many freez problems as a track and GT mod doesn't help on that. Many, me included had very bad fps for all the first lap. When we raced last time with GT at Brands this didn't happen. So I'm asking if a full field of Porsche could be the culprit. And again I suspect that Paul didn't set the bandwith parameters appropriately, so this could be a problem too. I think we have to check again the Porsches before start the season IMO.
I checked Brands replay and Hristo and Goran got disco at the very same time, there were other discos?

as far as i can tell the updated and fixed version of brands67 that was made while testing the GT mod has never been released , I've just asked in another place about getting it published .

while testing the gt mod at brands67 we had many discos till it was fixed but afterwards it became stable .

i believe that a only a few files of the original brands cause the problem however the unreleased and fixed version also has a few tweaks as well as upgraded gfx .

john


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: EvilClive on April 07, 2011, 08:34:30 AM +0100
That is interesting John.

When the GT mod was released I recall that we had to have certain tracks already installed? and one of those was Brands which I downloaded again. I had assumed that this was an "upgraded" version that had been tweaked to remove some of the instabilities in the old version.

From what you are saying that was not the case and might explain just some of our problems at Brands, because historically it was a suspect track and we appear to be using the same track file?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 07, 2011, 10:30:42 AM +0100
Well, what I meant about Brands being patched happened long ago, not with the GT mod release. This must be a new match specific for the GT mod, but the track worked just fine with other mods for years. The very initial release years ago was problematic and the track was patched up and re-released, so I assume we all have that.

Anyway, it explains why we experienced problems when running it with the GT mod, but I wonder why is it that such thing occurs with just this mod - too heavy on graphics (track + mod)? Also, what would happen if some are running the initial Brands, some the early patched and some the late patched (for GT mod) version? Would they still be able to connect and if yes, could it be that it causes problems?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: fpolicardi on April 07, 2011, 06:04:54 PM +0100
I think GT mod added only some specific mod elements like poster, track.ini, end race report that doesn't change track surface and graphic.


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 07, 2011, 06:38:03 PM +0100
Yet JR said they apparently made a patch which fixes stability problems when running the GT mod at Brands, but the patch was not released?


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: john roberts on April 07, 2011, 11:14:12 PM +0100
Yet JR said they apparently made a patch which fixes stability problems when running the GT mod at Brands, but the patch was not released?

thats what i said .

john


Title: Re: POST SEASON FUN - British Series
Post by: john roberts on April 17, 2011, 09:57:08 PM +0100
not the update but only the files need to fix discos

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6811