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Title: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Mike Miller on April 15, 2011, 02:14:19 AM +0100
Problems connecting to the Lobby? Download this (http://www.simbin.se/files/gtr2_ofp.zip)

Practice: 19:20 (UK London) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (15 mins)
Race: 20:35 (30 laps)
Cars allowed: Shelby Cobra Coupe (no willment), Shelby Cobra Roadster 289

Track: Long Beach 79 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#post_longbeach79)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: None required

Qualifing procedure
  • standard qualifying procedure with all drivers on track for 15 minutes

Server: simracing.org.uk - P&G
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=292&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Legzy on April 15, 2011, 02:24:54 AM +0100
Steady Mike, you realise you've given us 6 days notice here? :o
I demand you take this thread down till at least Monday, so Clive doesn't get any practice :angel:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 15, 2011, 07:14:21 AM +0100
Steady Mike, you realise you've given us 6 days notice here? :o
I demand you take this thread down till at least Monday, so Clive doesn't get any practice :angel:


Ratbag!

Proper cars too!

With this much notice SBRC may even be able to field a proper team.  ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: BillThomas on April 15, 2011, 12:25:50 PM +0100
Can't see Long Beach 79  ??? only 79 track I can see is Monaco.  Help please.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 15, 2011, 12:41:27 PM +0100
Probably this one Bill http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,625


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 15, 2011, 12:48:15 PM +0100
When the link to the file is complete and I know for certain the track version, then I will
start the Practice server. Tony is probably right though.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 15, 2011, 04:03:34 PM +0100
It will be the version with the joke starting lights and not enough pit stalls.  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: BillThomas on April 15, 2011, 06:09:40 PM +0100
Probably this one Bill http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,625

Thanks Tony.  Need to sort out my registration have it somewhere on computer.  Will sort out later when track confirmed.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Mike Miller on April 16, 2011, 01:56:50 AM +0100
Guys

I created an installer and uploaded it to MegaUpload just before leaving for the track, but it appears as if the upload failed. I am unable to access my computer at home from the hotel so I'll link to nogrip.

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=2329


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 16, 2011, 10:40:19 AM +0100
Installer created and now available from the link above... ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: BillThomas on April 16, 2011, 11:40:01 AM +0100
Installer created and now available from the link above... ;)

Thanks Dave.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 16, 2011, 12:59:44 PM +0100
Cheers Dave

My best so far is a 1:46.3.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 16, 2011, 10:27:11 PM +0100


Thanks Dave,

1:40.651 for me in the Roadster.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: goldtop on April 16, 2011, 10:49:23 PM +0100
Cobras with long bends, heavy braking zones and concrete walls all around. Think I'll book mine in for a re-shell now to avoid the rush after the race.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 17, 2011, 06:49:44 PM +0100

Just spotted the practice server, which is a novelty, but it's set up for roller skate racing!   :(

Not a proper car in sight!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 17, 2011, 10:44:28 PM +0100
I started the server this morning very early with all the cars as usual, I don't have time at the moment
to test it. I have just restarted the server after the GT500 race. I'll have another look tommorow.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 18, 2011, 07:10:23 AM +0100
Still the same for me.

Cannot select a Cobra.  :(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 18, 2011, 12:33:16 PM +0100
Yep. Me being dumb
had dissallowed most cars not allowed them, sorry I was busy busy this weekend.
I don;t have access to PG from work to know what series Cobras live in
so I have just restarted server with all but IROCs available.

 :oops:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: johnw on April 18, 2011, 06:01:14 PM +0100
Hoping to make this one. Haven't driven the Cobra for quite a while, should be fun :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 19, 2011, 04:31:06 PM +0100
1:40.651 for me in the Roadster.

Similar for me in the coupe - oddly every different style of setup is resulting in nearly the same lap times!

Need to try harder I think as the above time is hardly a 'consistent' one....


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 20, 2011, 05:49:43 PM +0100
1:40.651 for me in the Roadster.

Similar for me in the coupe - oddly every different style of setup is resulting in nearly the same lap times!

Need to try harder I think as the above time is hardly a 'consistent' one....

Try the default.

That added about 4sec to my times.  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Syd Drake on April 20, 2011, 06:10:08 PM +0100
So anybody got a better setup? With the default one, I'm doing 1.44-45.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 20, 2011, 07:44:49 PM +0100
So anybody got a better setup? With the default one, I'm doing 1.44-45.

I've got a worse one I'm looking to pass on


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: SpecialKS on April 20, 2011, 08:17:51 PM +0100
1:44,2 for me in a coupe by now (offline).
Will be fun tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iylbefzY6Ck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iylbefzY6Ck) ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Legzy on April 20, 2011, 10:06:23 PM +0100
1:43's & not sure where any extra time is going to come from ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 21, 2011, 11:18:18 AM +0100
Best so far is a 40.7, but mostly 43's and some 42's. I also mess with setups, and ended up back at
my "easy listening" standard big metal setup. The default understeers too much for me
I set diff to 30 power 10 coast. front soft as poss rear hard as poss. I made the rear arb a bit softer than
max. I am not a fan of Cobras, I usually choose anything else rather than drive them, I like porkas a bit less
but not much. A 40s lap here for me requires lots of flicking the tail into corners, and power slides out
which I can do once in a while, but hardly consistent. Is more of a "controlled crash" that somehow
stays on track...  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 21, 2011, 12:43:31 PM +0100
Have dipped into the 39s and understand that pole could be in the 38s.

Better string a few more controlled crashes to gether Matt.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 21, 2011, 03:23:48 PM +0100
Ha!
I will not be on pole however hard I try, for me qual is more about making it so I get mugged by
less people at the start than if I was at the rear (which is often a safer place to be)
I think there may be a lot of wall/other car contact. I hope to be around at the end sweeping
up. of course I could get swept up by the street cleaner and not finish lap 1....
I am confident I will not be able to maintain the slidey tailhappyness required for a quick lap
for the whole race, so I will not be trying to. I have had the guys weld some roo bars to the front
and rear as protection, my car looks more like a stock car (British variety)  ;)

http://www.comp.co.uk/gallery/details.asp?gallery=Randall+Brisca+F2_0416



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Syd Drake on April 21, 2011, 08:08:00 PM +0100
I can't join the server. As soon as the track loads I get message booted as a possible cheat and I'm dropped from the server.
I should mention that this is my first PnG online race. I installed PnG 2.0 into a dedicated GTR2 install, then installed 2.1 update. Don't know what the message is about.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: johnw on April 21, 2011, 08:10:32 PM +0100
Run the terrain patcher - it's in the p&g install folder.

Linky
http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15080


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Syd Drake on April 21, 2011, 08:12:59 PM +0100
Just did, and I'm in. Thanks.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Legzy on April 21, 2011, 09:40:16 PM +0100
Qualified in 5th/6th having finally twigged how to drive this place/car :laugh:

Got a decent start for me... but by T3 I felt like I was in a wrestling match not a race ::)
So by T4 I already had broken splitter, knackered suspension & aero damage & was down to 14th >:(

Managed to slowly get to grips with my 'new' beaten up setup' :-X & start climbing through the field & overall enjoyed that combination. :)

Wish it had been 10 mins shorter though, seemed very long for a sprint! Was very ready for the race to end, despite enjoying the car/track.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 21, 2011, 10:36:26 PM +0100
Conversely after the first 20mins or so I was in Enduro mode and didn't want it to finish  ;D

Had a prolonged 2 part battle with Matt - I passed him early on when he got into a tank slapper at the entry to the back straight.
He than pushed very hard and eventually caught me up enough so that when I ran wide (At the same corner  ::) ) and hit the wall he was able to get up along side me, and then muscle past as we negotiated the right, left, right, left, right sequence towards the main straight.
From behind it became clear how hard Matt was driving (Or just how loose his setup was?) as his car was squirming everywhere and would often loose ground to me in the middle of the technical sections.
I was enjoying hastling him right up until I cut slightly too close to the pit wall at T1 - A glancing blow luckily, but one that saw me bounce fully across the track into the outside wall and loose about 4 seconds.
I settled back down myself and returned to putting in fast, tidy laps (I was convinced tyre management would be important here, esp as Matt and i had the same car) and after about 10 mins was really starting to get close to an even more nervous looking Matt.

I kept it tidy and smooth as I closed on him and was suprised when I past him, it wasn't thanks to a mistake on his part - it was simply down to extra grip on mine as got the power down 10 meters or so before him (Entering the back straight yet again!) and sailed up the inside to pass him just before the braking point.
A few carefull corners later and I was clear to carry on at my own pace - I think Matt struggled harder and tryed to stay with me but lost it big style between the front stretch and the uphill section letting me pull clear by about 5-6 seconds.

From there on in my gap was slowly increasing right up until near the end when I half span into a wall and possibly damaged something. What ever I did Matt started gaining slightly from then on and I think I over drove the car to try and hold him off. It wasn't until the final 2 laps that I saw the gap grow again when I forced myself to calm down more (Matt my have had an incident aswell - don't know though).

I was left aching and covered in a sheen of sweat ( :-\ ) but thought it was an excelent choice of car/track  8)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: phspok on April 21, 2011, 10:36:52 PM +0100
Results and Replay Posted on the beach (between the bronzed lovelys)

Loose and driving hard  :D not really done many laps in hard race mode, and the car was looser than I had thought
had Legzy chasing me down towards the end, and managed to concentrate enough to put some good ones in
and slowly catch FMG, I think I bounced off the sea wal or something so dropped back a bit, and then decided
to finish rather than stuff it terminally. Good racing overall,


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: goldtop on April 21, 2011, 10:51:56 PM +0100
Cobras and street circuits are about the worst mix for me. Couldn't get a rhythm all race and it turned into a more of a wrestling match than a drive. Had a nice chase with Legzy but hit the inside walls of the hairpins a few times which lost me any ground I'd struggled to make.

Glad to finish in one piece.

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Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 21, 2011, 11:32:30 PM +0100
Congratulations and many thanks to John for his win and for clawing SBRC back to a respectable 2nd in the team championship.

Congratulations also to Tim for his overall win.

I like Cobras so I was bound to like this race, although a bit more run-off would have been nice.  I think that for a good lap you had to just scrape the chrome off of the door handles against the walls.

Well done to everyone who found themselves being lapped.  That cannot have been easy on this circuit but I thought that everyone did a grand job of getting out of the way.

I seemed to lose out to people’s last minute bursts of speed in qually and found myself further back than I would have liked. 

After the start I found that I was 6th and following Lorenzo.  He must have felt that he was holding me up as he allowed me past after a few laps.

That left me to chase the ade/lazlow battle, which was raging well just a few hundred metres up the road.

I think that I caught them at about mid-race and shortly after that Lazlow managed to pass Ade and pull a slight gap.  I continued to chase Ade and with about ten laps to go he cut it a bit fine at the first hairpin and it kicked him around so that he was facing the inner wall.  That let me through into 4th spot which I held to the end, despite putting in some really ugly laps.

Grats to Navin and Lazlow for their podium finish.

Cya




Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Navin R Johnson on April 22, 2011, 01:07:32 AM +0100
Lots of fun power sliding the Cobra around for most of the race. Kind of silly starting grid placement as I was second and on the grid and was on the inside of the track which I think gave me an advantage as John and I had Identical starts but I was able to tighten(shorten)my line and got to turn 1 first. From that point I was very sloppy through the s's. Once on the back straight I looked behind and was happy to see that my sloppiness(slowness)didn't cause any accidents. I then just tried not to overdrive the car from that point and waited for John to overtake me at some point ;). Had a nice short battle with John until he left me in his dust :P. Just tried to be smooth after that so I had something for the end and had a uneventful run from that point. Always enjoy the old school Long Beach ;D. Big congrats to John for being 1st and silly fast. Grats as well to Lazlow for getting a solid 3rd place podium.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: johnw on April 22, 2011, 10:02:47 PM +0100
Was a pleasure driving the Cobra again last night :) Lots of fun in a lairy car that counter-intuitively needed to be driven as smoothly as possible to get a good time out of it!

Got off the line well, but Navin did an equally good start and I could hear him but not see him going into the fast right-hander before the hairpin. I was looking in my mirrors to try and find him when I noticed there was a wall coming and managed to just graze it slightly without picking up any damage :D Stuck on Navin's tail for the next few laps trying to find somewhere to pass, I was faster in some of the slow corners but he seemed to be getting a better exit onto the straights so I wasn't close enough to attempt anything for a while. I was having fun chasing until I must have done the first corner absolutely perfectly, and before I realised it we were braking for the hairpin and Navin's car was getting closer...closer...bang!  :oops:

Luckily I don't think there was any damage as we continued at the same pace for a few laps until I closed up again, got alongside going into the final corner and made a pass round the outside stick by getting the power down well onto the straight. Good driving Navin, fun while it lasted  :thumbup2:

The rest of the race was a test of concentration to avoid those walls (which I didn't quite manage). Excellent awareness again from those being lapped as well :thumbup1:

Shame I couldn't do more races this season, but it's good to see the team in second place. Grats Tim for being the top man!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: SpecialKS on April 23, 2011, 03:50:06 PM +0100
Interesting one for me.

Most of the time last as usual, but at least I could improve my best lap time.
After my fastest lap I had a hard contact with the wall which reduced my "lifetime" to 1%
and so was forced to pit, hoping that lifetime would also recover.

But it didn't.

So I continued only trying to see the chattered flag.

After some laps "lifetime" went down to 0% and I was wondering how long the "smoking"
Cobra would last alive. And surprisingly it did some other laps but then suddenly the car "died".


Thank you guys again for organizing all theses great events.

Happy Easter!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Legzy on April 23, 2011, 05:23:48 PM +0100
The smoke was amusing! Lol
From what I could see, it looked like the rear of the car has collapsed. :laugh:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: SpecialKS on April 23, 2011, 07:08:12 PM +0100
I crashed with the front into the wall.

Game tells me "suspension" as reason for breakdown.

But amusing - indeed.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 5 Sprints - Long Beach (1975-81) - Apr 21
Post by: Alex vV on April 27, 2011, 09:15:48 PM +0100

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/LongBApr11/)

Apologies for the late posting but was a bit occupied with monster F1 cars and chocolate Easter Eggs...