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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 26, 2011, 09:58:29 PM +0100
Spec Racing kicks off a new season, moving to the Friday night slot with "the Royal Wedding Race". Very best wishes to William & Kate but Westminster Abbey isn't the best venue for F1 racing so UKGPL celebrations will be up the road a bit at Donnington in Derbyshire. The track can be downloaded here donnington (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1287)

For any new entrants to Spec Racing the format is a little different from other divisions. There will be two Int Short Races, back to back on the same track. For each event there are two chassis available and you should drive both cars - anyone daft enough to use the same car will be disqualified for Race 2. Start with whichever chassis you like. We start with the 65 Mod & your choice of chariot is the Brabham BT11 v the Ferrari.

There is no handicapping (until I find a really good way to nobble Hristo) - all participants will run in one division.

 A slight change in moderating procedures from previous seasons:
Unlimited resets are allowed but every Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in your Pit Box. If you Reset on the last lap a 30 second time penalty will be awarded.
Incidents should be reported in the usual way.
In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation on lap one.

Also please note that qualifying runs are limited to 12 minutes.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Friday 29-04-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Donnington Park
Race length = Intermediate Short
Variant = 1965
Chassis = BT11 & Ferrari
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 12 minutes

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=308;theme=6)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 27, 2011, 01:45:48 PM +0100
Just to clarify a stop & go in the pit lane within spitting distance of your pit box will be satisfactory. Generally, UKGPL does not encourage spitting & you won't be asked to prove how far you can spit.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 27, 2011, 01:55:50 PM +0100
Just to clarify a stop & go in the pit lane within spitting distance of your pit box will be satisfactory. Generally, UKGPL does not encourage spitting & you won't be asked to prove how far you can spit.

Is there a way to actually check if someone used their pit stall or not? I thought only the driver sees the pit board that marks the spot.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: b_1_rd on April 27, 2011, 03:22:41 PM +0100
Probably by another teams pit crew spitting at you if you don't stop in the right place.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 27, 2011, 04:23:02 PM +0100


Is there a way to actually check if someone used their pit stall or not? I thought only the driver sees the pit board that marks the spot.
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A good example would be Jenson Button's stop at last week's Chinese Grand prix when the whole Red Bull team wet themselves laughing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 27, 2011, 05:01:16 PM +0100
I mean by looking at server replay in GPL... I think you can't see where the pit stall of each driver actually is.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: blito on April 27, 2011, 05:20:30 PM +0100
Does it really matter where in the lane a stop/go penalty is taken?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: vosblod on April 27, 2011, 05:29:39 PM +0100
Does it really matter where in the lane a stop/go penalty is taken?
No as long as you keep to the side so the entrance/exit is clear.
I think on longer pitstops you do need to use your own box to stop GPL booting you out.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 27, 2011, 06:17:45 PM +0100
Does it really matter where in the lane a stop/go penalty is taken?
No as long as you keep to the side so the entrance/exit is clear.
I think on longer pitstops you do need to use your own box to stop GPL booting you out.

Yes, good point, although you can creep forward a bit each time you get the message to retire until it disappears.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: blito on April 29, 2011, 10:10:25 PM +0100
Well, that was a massive disappointment!
The mod is gonna have my arse over rear-ending Ronnie on lap one and Vos on lap 2.. 3rd on the track will be dead last for race one..
Race two, lap two, in fourth place and hanging on the the lead trio when... SCREEN FREEZE!!!!! Not had one for a whole year, no trouble during the test races... No, my f*****g 'pute decides to wait until I'm actually on form and going well when it really matters.... GRRRRRR !!!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 29, 2011, 10:24:11 PM +0100
Hmm, I didn't realize the race was today. Doh.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: vosblod on April 29, 2011, 10:36:15 PM +0100
Not naming names and I'm sure it was just an oversight but can I remind everyone of this;

shift/R (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting)
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For divisions that don't run under PRO rules (where Shift-Rs are not possible), a Shift-R is allowed only in a race, not in practice


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 01, 2011, 09:08:27 AM +0100
Despite not getting the best out of each car on the night I still enjoyed both races. I have not seen a replay so cannot comment on any incidents on lap one involving myself, so if the server replay is available can someone post it up? Look at the long term Jason, judging by your performances in these two short blasts the novice season could be a great one for you, well done mate. Apologies for not giving way to Clive at the end of qualifying in race 2. I simply had no qualy time even at that late stage and had to keep going for it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: EvilClive on May 01, 2011, 10:55:21 AM +0100
No worries Ronnie.

 If you were on a "fast lap", then there is no obligation on you to give way, as you are fully entitled to make the best qually time you can.
It was up to me to find enough space for my flying lap, which would of course been a 1:06, if you had not slowed me down  ::) ;D

Only if someone is on an "out lap", or has already compromised their effort by going off, are they expected to get out of the way of someone who is faster. I think there is a section in our "Driving Etiquette" section that covers this.

No-one has an automatic right to the racing line, or any other priveleges during qualification, just because they are faster. But I will add just one comment about drivers leaving the pits during qually.

We can all make mistakes of judgement, but I would advise all drivers leaving ( or about to leave) the pits to check Pribluda to see how much gap they have before the next car comes past. ( Prib is not foolproof, but it is the best we have!!)
Ideally, you need to be sure that you can exit the pits and be clear of T1 before anyone catches you and this might mean that you have to wait for a suitable gap in traffic before leaving the pits. This gives you the opportunity to get up to speed and OFF the racing line in plenty of time, plus it gives the following driver a chance to see you and register that you have made room for him.

 If for some reason you emerge from the pits and that first look in your mirrors ( which we all do don't we??!! ahem!!) back along the S/F straight shows a car coming that you had not expected. Just drive off the track!! and get out of the way. Don't try and get around T1 fast enough to stay in front on cold tyres and risk a spin. You will have lost virtually nothing as you are 10 secs into a warm up lap and will probably be able to drive back on to the track and continue once that fast car has passed. Aways being sure that there is not a second car coming through!!.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: blito on May 01, 2011, 12:25:43 PM +0100
Interestingly Clive, Ive just started using prib and did exactly that - sat waiting at the end of the pit lane for a suitable gap..... its just good manners not to get in peoples way really, isnt it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: b_1_rd on May 01, 2011, 11:14:08 PM +0100
Will the replay make an appearance soon, or am I looking in the wrong place for it?

Cheers  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 02, 2011, 01:00:16 AM +0100
Replay(s) now posted - sorry meant to do it yesterday.

I suffered a screen freeze in the second Race. I believe Blito & Skymole also had similar problems. If memory serves correct we raced 67's at Donnington a while back & there were problems in that race. I think this should go on the list of potentially troublesome tracks.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 02, 2011, 02:05:48 AM +0100
Replay(s) now posted - sorry meant to do it yesterday.

I suffered a screen freeze in the second Race. I believe Blito & Skymole also had similar problems. If memory serves correct we raced 67's at Donnington a while back & there were problems in that race. I think this should go on the list of potentially troublesome tracks.




That's odd, I've had many league races at Donington, all without a single problem. I still believe there is something beyond the tracks which is causing us grief here in UKGPL, something to do with settings and/or addons of some sort.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: blito on May 02, 2011, 09:08:17 AM +0100
Personally, I think that its time we did some serious troubleshooting.
The worst track for freezes seemed to be Vallelunga so maybe we should use that as our test track.
We should do races where everyone tries the original rasterizers.
We should do races where everyone runs fewer simultaneous sounds.
We should do races where everyone runs 800*600 resolution
If we continue this sort of systematic testing then we should eventually find out some common causes of the dreaded screenfreeze and hopefully be able to commission someone to find a cure!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 02, 2011, 10:16:55 AM +0100
I disagree that we should use a track that's prompt to cause freezes anyway. We should instead use something like Donington which is not in a black list and has always been stable. Or other tracks which used to be OK, but have caused freezes last season. Can't remember names ATM, but will do if I take a look at the standings from S20.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: b_1_rd on May 02, 2011, 08:26:14 PM +0100
Replay(s) now posted - sorry meant to do it yesterday.

I suffered a screen freeze in the second Race. I believe Blito & Skymole also had similar problems. If memory serves correct we raced 67's at Donnington a while back & there were problems in that race. I think this should go on the list of potentially troublesome tracks.




Thanks Bill


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 11, 2011, 10:33:31 PM +0100
Moderators report now published.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: b_1_rd on May 11, 2011, 11:14:46 PM +0100
Thanks Bill. Advice noted. Yes an ambitious move that didn't work, too much red mist.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs - Donington Park (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Ross Neilson on August 09, 2011, 02:59:50 PM +0100
Has anyone got the server replays for these two races?