Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on April 28, 2011, 06:18:22 PM +0100 UKGPL Season 21 65 Novices Trophy
Race 1 Monaco Welcome to round 1 of a brand new season for the Novices. Will Norm stop speed shifting and blowing engines? Will Karliss keep his Australian speed? Will Fabio win the penalty competition? Will Vosblod still be in Novices? All these questions answered, and more. This is the first time that UKGPL have used Monaco in the Novices and depending on the race, it may be the last. I would stress to people that Monaco in real life is a tight and twisty circuit where it is often impossible to pass unless the driver in front makes a mistake, and even then it is not always easy. I would ask all drivers to be patient, to qualify as well as they can and to treat the circuit and their fellow competitors with the respect they deserve. Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below as the permitted chassis you take here will be your chassis for the season: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9196.0 FULL TIME
RESERVE
Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully. Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps. The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated. PLEASE NOTE THE RULE CHANGES FOR THIS SEASON REGARDING SHIFT-Rs All resets must be followed by a Stop n Go regardless of blame for the incident which caused it. Race List = IGOR Server = UKGPL5 IP address = ping myjamesonline.net Race date = 03/05/2011 Time = 21:00 UK time Track = Monaco Variant = 65F1 Damage Model = Int Qualifying time = 35 minutes Race length = 26 laps Password: see above (#post_event_password) 65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. http://bit.ly/d8dECl Driver lists can be found on the Novice Championship Page (http://www.) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on April 30, 2011, 08:32:25 AM +0100 I`m really looking forward to this... I've done some laps in the BT11 on four separate track and improved my PB by 1s/lap or more on each track.. so i`ll be racing the BT11 instead of the planned BRM.....
If I continue to improve like this i`ll have to start practising with the cooper :( Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BookieW on May 02, 2011, 03:01:25 PM +0100 I know I'll miss this first race (drats) but I will be on hand for the next. I am having an MRI and physician consultation for my lung cancer condition that day. I hope the radiation and chemotherapy regime won't prevent me from participating in the season.
BookieW :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 02, 2011, 03:46:38 PM +0100 Hope you are Ok Bookie _ treatment sounds nasty but I know from personal experience that chemo doesn't necessarily stop you racing. Good luck with it all
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 02, 2011, 05:06:18 PM +0100 All the best and see you at the Glen Bookie.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: EvilClive on May 02, 2011, 05:20:42 PM +0100 Yes, I'm sure we all wish you the best possible outcome Bookie.
Just think positive and you'll probably win Monaco as well ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 02, 2011, 06:32:09 PM +0100 I'll echo the sentiments above and hope to see you back in Novices soon.
I remember those heady days when i used to lap you. ;) I suspect you remember one of them when I almost took your nose off at Kyalami. ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: happyal on May 02, 2011, 06:36:51 PM +0100 Hope you get well soon Bookie.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: roguk on May 02, 2011, 08:59:07 PM +0100 Get well soon Bookie.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 02, 2011, 09:38:37 PM +0100 All the best Bookie.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 02, 2011, 10:26:00 PM +0100 Well - looks like I am back to embarrassing myself. I can't do better than 1:40 here. I am not sure where I am losing the time but Loews and the last hairpin are real problems. I am also having to slow mightily for the chicane - slow slow slow. Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 02, 2011, 10:37:56 PM +0100 Well - looks like I am back to embarrassing myself. I can't do better than 1:40 here. I am not sure where I am losing the time but Loews and the last hairpin are real problems. I am also having to slow mightily for the chicane - slow slow slow. Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past? Just keep going flat out at the chicane until you nail it. Once you do that, you'll know what it takes to do it again. Likewise for other corners, try carrying more speed through until you manage to do it without crashing. Unless you keep pushing over the limit you'll never know what's possible. Of course I mean that for practice runs. On race day it's the opposite. :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 02, 2011, 10:43:42 PM +0100 I'm certainly crashing a lot :laugh:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: bernie on May 03, 2011, 09:25:07 AM +0100 Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past? Just drive the normal racing line , let those who want to pass decide where to do so :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 03, 2011, 06:44:52 PM +0100 I'm not sure there is a normal driving line for me :laugh:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on May 03, 2011, 07:48:18 PM +0100 Paul - if you`re online now get yerself to Igor and I`ll try to help .. I`m doing 1:32s here.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 03, 2011, 08:34:23 PM +0100 "Will Karliss keep his Australian speed?"
i think no, cos cant do under 1:30.8 on empty track, but in race will be traffics i really hope that Monaco could be the track, that is used in every season. its to great to through away. maybe we can switch for the future Sierra Monaco with edited Monacini, witch is more real, and chicane is like in old movies, real chicane, not flatout Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on May 03, 2011, 10:23:42 PM +0100 Oh dear... 3rd race in a row with hardware problems.... Broadband related again! Tomorrow those nice people at Orange will get a crappy phone call to get it sorted!!!!
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 03, 2011, 11:06:00 PM +0100 2 1/2 hours since my last post, and first of all i want to appologize for that stupid wreck in lap3.
there is no alibi for me (or how to say in english) for that. i think i was quite fast, but consistance is bad for me. i cant be fast + consistant... so more practice and expieriance needed for me to win a race. so after loosing my P3, i felt back to P13, many laps behind slower cars and one disco car, and only thing is i can do is watching pribluda, how leaders run away, not because they are much faster, but because you are stuck between monaco guardriles lol somehow i climbed during a race up to P5, witch after such training and practising effort seems as worst place and worst race i ever gained. fighting for P5 wasnt what i dremt about before race and especialy after Qual, where i managed P3 (of corse there are a LUCK FACTOR that i was at all in P5.. cos it could remain P8) i know there are many PP for me from last year, so if i must do some ban from next race , then ok. (maybe not from next one, cos it is Watkins "king of GPL rookies") but yes, referee, you got the point :hang: anyway thanks for race and was real fun,one of my favorite tracks in every sim. There is no street track witch comes close to Monaco! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 03, 2011, 11:25:39 PM +0100 Well - my first Monaco race - I was dreading it.
After avoiding some of the crashes and making a good start battled my way up to eighth. Then I lost it at the last turn and clipped the center barrier - crash, upside down. Shift-R required - had to wait until everybody was past. <sigh>. No way back. People were lapping me now and I concentrated on being a good citizen. I put in some solid laps and generally I was pleased with how it went. 10th and I might gain a place or two for keeping my nose clean. LOTS of incidents. Who is modding this one? :( Pleased with qually. Managed a sub-1:36 which was nearly a 5 sec improvement on my PB. 1:37 was best in the race but I don't think I disgraced myself and unlike Zaandvoort and Castle Combe last year I wasn't too freaked by all the people passing me. Bloody hard though with walls of sound all around to see if someone was coming. Let lots of people past at Casino (Thanks Billy for that tip) and hopefully stayed out of the way mostly. Sorry if I held anyone up. Nice start to the season. Was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 03, 2011, 11:38:30 PM +0100 Results Imported, and for those new to UKGPL, they are provisional until the race results have been moderated.
if you were involved in any incidents during the race, you now need to click on the "Submit an Incident Report" link at the top of the page and describe the time of the incident and what happened. it may also help if you attach a clip of your replay if the incident involved warp. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Cookie on May 04, 2011, 12:34:24 AM +0100 ;D WOW MONACO ;D
My third ever race in a 65, and my first race here in Monaco with real people ::) Was great fun, but sorry for Martin who was lost after 17 laps of giving me fire! So I dedicate this win to him who has pushed me all the practice sessions to my borders. Wasn't easy to learn a car with no really fitting setup. So I made a great effort last afternoon to get it my way. With a good start I could manage to stay in front the whole race, except the only mistake I made when Martin could pass me. Thanks to all the drivers who let me pass with no problems! Never saw so much and strange warping in a race, often it was pure luck not to crash... I had no technical or connection problems at all. Thanx Axel Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on May 04, 2011, 06:48:36 AM +0100 At least I wasn't the only one warping around then.... BTW check out my fastest race lap - 0.083s!! That has to be a new WR!!
You may all have noticed me connecting and disconnecting at the start of qually. I had a weird problem with the graphics for the bt11 that I had planned to race. The steering wheel gfx had been replaced by a car skin!! A perfect wheel sized "flattened out" modders car skin!!! I've never seen anything like it.. So, as a result I had to revert to using the BRM. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Geoff65 on May 04, 2011, 10:58:00 AM +0100 Courtesy of JR Jason....steering wheel fix for the BT11.
Geoff. http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/bt11-wheel-fix-t329.html Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: NHance on May 04, 2011, 11:38:35 AM +0100 Best wishes to Bookie. Well done the podium boys who are all new to novices. Thats enough thank you ;D
This was a nice tight track to debut my BT7 after a voluntary change from BT11. Like most I had a bit of crash & bash but amazingly the car kept going ok. Found it difficult to get a clear run in qually but was happy with the time & also a fair race result. Overall I really enjoyed it. I can't download the replay at present so don't know about penalties. Yes there was a lot of warping with cars disappearing quite often. Two things to mention:- Firstly well done my mate Clutch on 3rd in the Pro Class. Secondly thanks to Roguk for the gearing set up. Well he didn't exactly give me it. I had a one to one race with him on the server a few nights ago when he beat me easily. I recorded it & the replay showed he was using 1st to 4th much lower than me. I made adjustments to use the gears more or less as he did & the result was half a second off my pb. Its that sort of co-operation that makes UKGPL special. Nice one ;) Norm H Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: maddog on May 04, 2011, 12:39:52 PM +0100 My race started, a hundred miles from where it finished. I am in the midst of changing my home base, from London, to the South coast of England. So, with race time in mind, and in a fully loaded transporter, I set off through London on a cross-city route, which should've been quicker than motorwaying it. Except, with half the traveling population in agreement, this was not the case. Arriving with barely enough time to unload and setup, I was in serious need of some on-line therapy. Quickly bolting some bits together, I hooked into the land line, crossed my fingers, and fired it all up. It ran first time! So jumped onto the track with 20 mins. of practice time to play with. Noticed fairly quickly, that half my controls, and sound were not working. Grumble! So, with just 10 minutes to saunter around the South of France, I somehow managed to find the track again, and entered some much needed open road, to set 4th fastest laptime. :laugh: Managed to jump to 2nd off the line, from amidst the swathe of new names, and attached myself firmly to Cookies tail. From the way his car jumped nervously, every time I came close, it was obvious the new connection, was less than ideal. My only chance to lead, would be a mistake and enough room, to safely make the move. And after a number of laps it happened - I took the lead approaching The Tabac. Up ahead, 'Il Lupi' had spun at the Gasworks, and as I rounded the curve, he backed his car across my path, and catapulted my car towards the bay. I'd lead for all of 10 seconds! >:( Fabio - 6 months ago you were a good driver. I hope you are not now a backwards driver! After a stop and go, I resigned myself to a shadowing role in 2nd. But fate decreed the warping would become suddenly worse. After only a distant glimpse of a BRM, we collided, and I quickly bailed out of the cockpit, before more harm could be done. A disappointing end to an enterprising race. A very impressive Cookie, and a great first drive from teammate Francesco, to grab a 2nd. With an apology to any hapless victims, of my surprise visit. The standard would seem to have been raised for Season 21, and I'll need to do my homework before the next round, to see if I still have the wherewithall to race. :'( Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on May 04, 2011, 12:57:33 PM +0100 OK, an update to the connection woes that have befallen me...
A quick call to the orange disconnection team revealed that they have been migrating customers on to the WBC network which is shared with BT and is apparantly over-subscribed already! Also, I found out that my package should have been reduced by £5 per month when they offered to renew the contract but failed to make the arrangements! Oh, and they forgot to mention that the VoIP system from the old package wasnt in the new one either... After 7 months of this I feel totally screwed by them and as a result told them to politely go and f**k themselves. I have cancelled the direct debits to them and have registered the complaint with offcom. All of which is going down on in ink to the head of orange support once i've calmed down enough to make it literate! Thanks for the BT11 update - what exactly am I supposed to do with it? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 04, 2011, 07:30:46 PM +0100 I hope Francesco's and Blito's SROU records are going to be erased! ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on May 04, 2011, 07:58:01 PM +0100 My comment is very simple: first I don't like Monaco track at all and last, but not least, I think it isn't a good choice to start a racing season, when everybody has a high testosterone level...
OK, I have a few more things to say: 1) in qualify I was ~3 second slower than my pb ??? 2) at the green flag I started very carefully to avoid any collisions and I was stripped by Paul :o 3) I was involved in several crashes because of someone else's mistakes 4) at least twice, when carefully managing to get back on track after a spin, I collided wih someone: but it wasn't really possible to see him coming while there should have been waving yellow flags! 5) in the end I got disconnected, and that made angry more than the track itself >:( Looking forward to the Glen, one of my favourite tracks! Grats to the winner, the podium and everybody raced. A special thanks to race organization and to Francesco and Jason for their stunning world records!! ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: francesco on May 04, 2011, 08:12:41 PM +0100 Quote and to Francesco and Jason for their stunning world records!! As explained over,is not my record.I don't know from where come this time,i'm not so fast!Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on May 04, 2011, 10:29:50 PM +0100 Quote and to Francesco and Jason for their stunning world records!! As explained over,is not my record.I don't know from where come this time,i'm not so fast!Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 05, 2011, 12:52:35 AM +0100 Quote and to Francesco and Jason for their stunning world records!! As explained over,is not my record.I don't know from where come this time,i'm not so fast!Can do the same to clear your record time Francesco but have you any idea of what your qually time actually was? If not we can put in something nominal. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 05, 2011, 02:44:17 AM +0100 What about the 1:21 qualifying time, Tim?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 05, 2011, 07:21:36 AM +0100 can u paint my race lap time in blue? just for my plesure :))
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: happyal on May 05, 2011, 09:34:44 AM +0100 A good race from myself, and my best result since season 16.
I'm not getting too carried away as I was just lucky regarding the accidents rather than out right pace from me. I did do a PB in qualifying, so I was quite happy with my grid slot. I expected to have a midfield battle during the race, and was going to concentrate on getting it home in one piece. I can across the lap 3 accident and managed to thread my way through it more or less without incident. I found myself in a high position, and went about keeping to my plan of staying out of the barriers. Very quickly Jason came up behind me and started to apply pressure, from my point of view he was warping all over the place. I started to concentrate on my lines to defend my position, I made one or two small errors were I would run a little bit wide but not enough for Jason to make a move. Eventually Jason’s warp got a bit worse and we made contact. I’m sure it was a warp contact and I will log it with the mods. I was lucky (again) that I didn’t need to shift & r and got back on with my race, I lost a place to Jonny O. After a little while Jason was back on my tail, this time there were 2 of him (according to Prib). My pace had picked up a little so he wasn’t all over me, but was still closing in. A weird thing happened at some point because I got shown Blue flags all over the lap. I very nearly pulled over and let Jason through because of the Blue flag, but I realised it was a bug and kept to my lines. It was a bit off putting. I think Jason got disco’d as he was no longer in my mirrors. I only had about 10 laps to go so settled in to bring it to the finish. I noticed that my fuel was getting a bit low, and when my fuel pressure started to drop with 5 laps to go I started to coast. I was glad to get the flag without any fuel pickup problems. Overall, a new PB for me. A good finish for me and no mistakes from me. Overall I’m happy with my race. Looking forward to Watkins, where I’ve never been fast but I still enjoy the track. Congratulations to podium and to Cookie for his first 65 win. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 05, 2011, 10:32:16 AM +0100 What about the 1:21 qualifying time, Tim? Just want to check if Fran has a 'proper' qually time, if not we can put in something nominal.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 05, 2011, 12:17:10 PM +0100 Driver: fran5 molteni - Ferrari
Practice laps Lap 1: 1m34.046s Lap 2: 1m21.295s [Off the track] Lap 3: 6m29.684s [Off the track, Invalid lap] Lap 4: 1m35.651s [Off the track] Lap 5: 1m38.145s Lap 6: 1m34.239s Lap 7: 1m37.124s Lap 8: 10m04.086s [Invalid lap] Lap 9: 1m34.078s Lap 10: 1m33.383s Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Cookie on May 05, 2011, 12:54:25 PM +0100 PRACTICE TIMES
Pos No Driver Team Nat Time Diff Laps 1 21 Axel Cookie Lotus GER 1m30.731s 14 2 12 Karlis Vitols Honda USA 1m31.109s 17 3 4 Martin 65 Hunt Cooper USA 1m31.474s 4 4 6 J Jonny'O Lotus BRA 1m31.728s 6 5 5 Jason Blito BRM GBR 1m32.249s 9 6 22 N Hance65 Brab BT7 GBR 1m32.430s 12 7 10 rog uk65 Cooper GBR 1m32.677s 13 8 15 nigel smith65 Honda GBR 1m33.035s 11 9 1 Alastair Baldwin65 Ferrari GBR 1m33.045s 14 10 14 Billy Nobrakes BrabBT11 GBR 1m33.193s 11 11 17 fran5 molteni Ferrari ITA 1m33.383s 10 12 18 Fabio 65 Locarno Ferrari ITA 1m35.243s 12 13 11 Paul Whitfield 65 Honda GBR 1m35.643s 10 14 9 economia economia BRM USA 1m36.524s 3 15 8 Martin 65 Hunt Cooper USA No time No time 0 16 7 Jason Blito BrabBT11 GBR No time No time 0 17 19 5 UKGPL.65 Lotus GBR No time No time 0 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 05, 2011, 01:56:24 PM +0100 I love the look & feel of this classic circuit – just a shame I’m not very good at it.
First a word of welcome to the new entrants to the Novices Trophy, Economia & Jonny O. I notice Jonny is with Team Coyote but his race pace was more like Road Runner. Qualifying was a good as could be expected but on taking my place on the start grid the rest of the field disappeared. I considered retirement but though I’d take a slow run on lap one & see what happened. The other cars began to reappear going up the hill and were solid enough when I ran into the back of the big lap one accident. (really should have got on the brakes earlier but don’t think I caused any more harm than had already been done). Had a bit of a tangle with Norm in the hairpin owing to a big dose of warp. Also noticed that the server had dropped me so the blue flags were out every time a car got close. The connection seemed stable enough to drive & I worked out that all the time Cookie (race leader) was behind me anyone else was on the same lap & OK to race. I hope my connection didn’t cause anyone major problems & it seems that I wasn’t the only one plagued by warp. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 05, 2011, 07:41:27 PM +0100 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 05, 2011, 07:46:31 PM +0100 It's the country in your GPL in-game player profile, Karlis. ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 05, 2011, 08:44:17 PM +0100 It's the country in your GPL in-game player profile, Karlis. ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 05, 2011, 09:07:01 PM +0100 but there is no Latvia... i can choose only Austri flag cos its quite similar to my flag Go here (http://gplpp.com/) and look under how to/other stuff/your countryI'm not sure we can reflect it in the lm2 import but there's probably something we can do. PS: now fixed Fran's time, but again can't stop he highlight thing. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: francesco on May 05, 2011, 09:13:35 PM +0100 Quote Don't worry about the records Francesco, the admin team will sort that out. Just enjoy the moment, a superb second place and you have put Antipasti Racing at the top of the team championship ahead of Clark Hill and the Wazzas!!! She will not be pleased but I am Thank you Phil,i hope to gain other results for the team. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: francesco on May 05, 2011, 09:24:07 PM +0100 Quote Just want to check if Fran has a 'proper' qually time, if not we can put in something nominal. After having realized that spectacular time i have given up to other lap ,anyhow i was first.Now i have this time registered in my PC like best practice time but my best time at Monaco in a race is 1,3166 and if i remember also in practice was not far from this time.The record must be deleted but for the race i have given position,at the start ,to 4 or 5 cars.Is OK for the confermation of my second place? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 05, 2011, 09:36:40 PM +0100 Quote Just want to check if Fran has a 'proper' qually time, if not we can put in something nominal. After having realized that spectacular time i have given up to other lap ,anyhow i was first.Now i have this time registered in my PC like best practice time but my best time at Monaco in a race is 1,3166 and if i remember also in practice was not far from this time.The record must be deleted but for the race i have given position,at the start ,to 4 or 5 cars.Is OK for the confermation of my second place? Yes you should technically have started in 11th but, as Phil pointed out in the registration thread, you are not required to forfeit a position due to timing mistakes. So yes you are entitled to your 2nd place as it stands. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 05, 2011, 09:39:32 PM +0100 but there is no Latvia... i can choose only Austri flag cos its quite similar to my flag Go here (http://gplpp.com/) and look under how to/other stuff/your countryI'm not sure we can reflect it in the lm2 import but there's probably something we can do. PS: now fixed Fran's time, but again can't stop he highlight thing. Would be nice if it could be changed, otherwise I remain Japanese! ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: JonnyO on May 06, 2011, 01:14:17 PM +0100 Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 06, 2011, 01:17:58 PM +0100 Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload? Normally here http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/) but Mike's server is out of action atm. Normal service will be resumed shortly.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: francesco on May 06, 2011, 08:21:21 PM +0100 Quote Yes you should technically have started in 11th but, as Phil pointed out in the registration thread, you are not required to forfeit a position due to timing mistakes. So yes you are entitled to your 2nd place as it stands. Thank you Vos,now is all clear. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 06, 2011, 08:49:23 PM +0100 Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload? Normally here http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/) but Mike's server is out of action atm. Normal service will be resumed shortly.The server is back for mods to upload new replays, and I will put the Novices Monaco replay up after the Porsche race tonight. The archive is currently missing but I hope to get it back. That is, if my new host haven't also lost my data. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 07, 2011, 02:36:58 PM +0100 is there some chances to get my Monaco Fastest Race Lap into my racing history?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 07, 2011, 10:31:53 PM +0100 is there some chances to get my Monaco Fastest Race Lap into my racing history? Really sorry but, due to the earlier timing issues, I can't get the system to re-recognise the correct fastest qually and lap times. I'm sure it will be the first of many FL's for you...Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: blito on May 08, 2011, 10:08:04 PM +0100 doh!!! posted in wrong place :D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on May 18, 2011, 09:14:43 PM +0100 Courtesy of JR Jason....steering wheel fix for the BT11. Geoff. http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/bt11-wheel-fix-t329.html I just installed it but it didn't fix the problem... :no: :no: :no: Any hints? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 18, 2011, 09:38:30 PM +0100 Race Mod Published, padded room ordered.
Thanks everybody for making this hobby so enjoyable. Any chance I can practise for my next race now? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Phil Thornton on May 18, 2011, 09:44:18 PM +0100 Great work Mike. A lot of time and effort has gone into that report :notworthy:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: miner2049er on May 18, 2011, 10:29:08 PM +0100 It has but I should also thank Paul who helped me a lot.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 19, 2011, 12:07:52 AM +0100 It was a pleasure - sort of. Hopefully the Glen will be a little easier to judge.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 19, 2011, 08:49:03 AM +0100 more fun is to battle in track to get real race position (P5) witch will be dropped after penalty points to (P10)
than racing confident and slower to get real race position (P10) without penalty points... :P Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2011, 08:59:23 AM +0100 That mentality will eventually get you banned from one or more races...
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: happyal on May 19, 2011, 09:17:33 AM +0100 more fun is to battle in track to get real race position (P5) witch will be dropped after penalty points to (P10) than racing confident and slower to get real race position (P10) without penalty points... :P What about the other peoples races that you effect? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 19, 2011, 09:38:33 AM +0100 ok.
you think i am doing it on purpose? (that big accdent was my fault 300% and i appologized for that) but here i talk about such small incidents, touching car etc, small shit witch happens cos you race not to be in P2. there is no point from racing if you do slower than u can, racing is risk, and everyone should understand that. cos otherwise seems, in tracks like monaco i can race slow, cos car behind me will not overtake me, cos there just not room for that, or if car behind me will try to do that more possible it will hit me, and will be penalized. or you prefer racing slow and conservative? everyone in race doing mistakes not because they race for checked flag, but because they doing best they can on limit. otherwise it is tourism. or you can lottery race positions before race start, then it will be more safest way. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: happyal on May 19, 2011, 09:47:04 AM +0100 No, of course I don't think you are causing accidents on purpose.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2011, 09:50:58 AM +0100 Karlis, there's no such thing as small incidents in GPL. With the way the collision model works and how warp/lag affects contacts between cars, even the smallest touch can lead to a devastating crash. That's why you simply can't afford to race too hard in GPL, it's a sign for lack of respect and you force the others around you to give way just to avoid accident and not because of your superior passing/battle skills. You can have hard but clean fought out races without having to go that far and it's still quite enjoyable.
The point was not whether you cause incidents intentionally or not, but whether you intentionally take too much of a risk or not. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: BadBlood on May 19, 2011, 09:56:44 AM +0100 there is no point from racing if you do slower than u can, racing is risk, and everyone should understand that. everyone in race doing mistakes not because they race for checked flag, but because they doing best they can on limit. otherwise it is tourism. or you can lottery race positions before race start, then it will be more safest way. Karliss. You are teriffically quick but you need to understand that driving on the limit does NOT mean pushing to the point where you lose it and take out 3 other people. Driving on the limit is understanding where you can drive fast without going beyond the point of control. Obviously we will all lose it accidentally sometimes as we all exploring our personal limits. You have managed to pick up a mountain of penalty points though, which suggests that you are driving beyond your limit. If you cut it back a fraction you would almost certainly finish higher because you are cleaner. Look at H. How many times does he crash? Drive within your limit. You are good enough to win races without affecting other people. If you go hell for leather and keep taking people out, you are going to get race bans. Nobody wants to see that. Sorry H - posted at the same time. Echo all that. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 19, 2011, 10:13:30 AM +0100 ok
i agree about respecting other drivers. seems for me, i just need to work somehow on my metal strenght, but don't see how. i am confused cos don't understund how is applied difference between Racing Incident and Ambisious Overtake. im confused now. ps anyway i am trying to do my best for clean racing. and what i sad about P5 vs P10, is idea to fight or surrender. Ok, im not so skilled to fight but it is ONLY FOR NOW :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2011, 10:21:31 AM +0100 It's simple really, especially when you race people you know. You just have to avoid placing them in a position where you will both end up crashing into each other unless the other driver eases off and gives you room. Sure, it happens from time to time, but if it happens regularly then it's something you need to address. Sticking to your lines, not cutting in front of people or turning into them, things like that. Use all your awareness and feedback from the sim (FF, sound, visuals) to position your car so you don't endanger others, at least not willingly.
Want to see how it's done? You simply have to watch one of the numerous battles me and Evil have had over the years. You'll see how we race both hard and fair. You can also watch the battle between myself and Clutch from the Snetterton Pro race, although I think he was a bit over-aggressive in his defense. ;D In any case, watching a replay can really give you an idea when you've crossed the border and when you haven't. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: maddog on May 19, 2011, 11:28:13 AM +0100 Ok, im not so skilled to fight but it is ONLY FOR NOW :) Come to practice races, because people do not race the same as Ai. We have some crashes, but this is not so bad when you race with friends. You did this at Adelaide, and so it was a good race for you. We learn from our mistakes, but not so good when the Moderator is looking at you. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: karlisss on May 19, 2011, 12:29:23 PM +0100 ok
i will try to do some practise race, but its difficult to get time for that. cos i mostly practise in mornings before work, and evenings i mostly spend with girfriend, when she arrives after work (family life) :) cos league race is what she respects, but foolin around PC gaming to much in our common time (few hours per day) is not worth where i can get some replay where is good fair battle? i had in watkins also fair batle, and i respected Cookies car, when after my mistake i realize, he is much faster. (i didnt head shot moves) also want to ask question: in real F1 there is a agreement for one trajectory change per lap, during fight, what about Novice races here? in watkins i did my best and clienest race ever, and that was a Q, during fight with Cookie in my head. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2011, 01:23:20 PM +0100 Replays of recent races here - http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 19, 2011, 01:29:01 PM +0100 The recommended driver behaviour (https://www.ukgpl.com/rec_dvr_beh/rec_driver_beh.htm) is a good place to start for advice.
As regards the difference between a racing incident and penalty situation we base our moderating on the UKGPL rules (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/penalties) and review each situation in light of this. Specific rules on blocking/weaving are here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/blocking_weaving). Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on May 20, 2011, 08:17:48 PM +0100 Courtesy of JR Jason....steering wheel fix for the BT11. Geoff. http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/bt11-wheel-fix-t329.html I just installed it but it didn't fix the problem... :no: :no: :no: Any hints? Does anybody has a fixed FULL65 folder to upload here or somewhere else? I'm getting mad tyring to solve such issue... Thx in advance mates! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: paulwbird on May 23, 2011, 10:40:15 PM +0100 Hi all, long time no GPL, decided to dust off wheel etc. is this the best place to resurrect my glorious Hiki Waza career?
Cheers Diki Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: EvilClive on May 23, 2011, 10:46:53 PM +0100 It absolutely is Paul!!!!! welcome back !! ;D
SHE will be pleased to see the Ronin return ;) psssst. suggest you go to "Announcements" and register which series you want to race in. Hiki Waza have been fending off the green and red things for the past few seasons but we definitely need some re-inforcements. I have ordered the pit crew to take off their fundoshis and use them to polish yet another of HER glorious machines in readiness. ( I suggested they do it after dark, so as not to frighten anyone ::) ) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: vosblod on May 23, 2011, 11:40:37 PM +0100 i am confused cos don't understund how is applied difference between Racing Incident and Ambisious Overtake. im confused now. If it helps here's a secret clip from a moderators meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJTROTp8XVA&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJTROTp8XVA&feature=channel_video_title). Now you know how it's all done :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 24, 2011, 12:08:02 PM +0100 Hi all, long time no GPL, decided to dust off wheel etc. is this the best place to resurrect my glorious Hiki Waza career? Cheers Diki Welcome back indeed! SHE will be pleased to command you once more! ;D |