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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on April 28, 2011, 09:24:45 PM +0100
UKGPL Season 21 Porsche Super Cup
Race 1 Sebring

The first race of UKGPLs first Porsche Super Cup, in fact, the first ever Porsche Super Cup (maybe) takes place at the wide open and high speed Sebring raceway, one of the oldest continuously-operating race tracks in the United States with its first race being run in 1950.

The raceway occupies a portion of Sebring Regional Airport, an active airport for private and commercial traffic that was originally built as a WWII Army Air Forces training base called Hendricks Field. For much of Sebring's history, the track followed a 5.2 miles (8.4 km) layout. In 1967, the Webster Turn right between the hairpin and the top of the track was removed and replaced with the faster Green Park Chicane, which was closer to the hairpin and allowed a flat-out run through a very fast corner to the top of the track and the runway, which made the circuit 50 yards longer.

The race is now considered one of the premier endurance races in the United States and is famous for its "once around the clock" action, starting during the day and finishing at night. For many years Sebring was part of the World Sportscar Championship, so let's all have a great time at this great track.

Download the circuit here:
http://srmz.net/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=13835

Please see the Porsche Super Cup registration thread for an explanation of the Team Setups:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.msg166098#msg166098

As the Team Championship will be run over 2 servers we will mix up the teams that use each server for every race so that by the end of the season every team should have raced against every other team. Paul (BadBlood) has a system to do this but the bloody idiot got himself admitted to hospital, so for the first race I will simply put odd team numbers on Server 1 and even team numbers on Server 2.

Please use this thread to enter your expected line up for this event only (not the season), and if you are not able to enter this event, let us know so that we do not end up with 5 teams on Server 1 and 3 teams on Server 2.

If a team does not enter this event, I will move the highest numbered team (i.e. 8 or 9) to even the servers up.

EXPECTED LINE UP
1 TEAM NAME - Pasti Porsche (SERVER 1)
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Van Ostade
Driver 2 - Am - Nicky Ickx
Driver 3 - Nov - Norbert

2 TEAM NAME - Porsche International (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Pro - Juha Hallikainen
Driver 2 - Nov - Ronniepeterson
Driver 3 - Nov - Axel Cookie

3 TEAM NAME - Clark Hill (SERVER 1)
Driver 1 - Am - Geoff Heard
Driver 2 - Am - Steve Bird
Driver 3 - Am - Vlad Vosblod

4 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 1 (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Pro - Hristo
Driver 2 - Nov - Paul
Driver 3 - Nov - Blito

5 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 2 (SERVER 1)
Driver 1 - Pro - Evil Clive
Driver 2 - Nov - Nigel Smith
Driver 3 - Nov - Karliss

6 TEAM NAME - Goran (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

7 TEAM NAME - Team Coyote (SERVER 1)
Driver 1 - Pro - Raoni Frizzo
Driver 2 - Nov - Jonny'O
Driver 3 - Nov - Du Fossa

8 TEAM NAME - Team 7 (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Pro - Fulvio Policardi
Driver 2 - Am - Bob Whitwell
Driver 3 - Nov - s2173

9 TEAM NAME - Team GPFun (SERVER 1)
Driver 1 - Pro - Andrea Tendas
Driver 2 - Am - Sergio Lonzar
Driver 3 - Nov - Roberto Baldassarri

10 TEAM NAME - Pastit Porsche (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Am - Phil Thornton
Driver 2 - Am - Natan
Driver 3 - Nov - Francesco

All drivers may join the server immediately but are asked not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Porsche Super Cup Races will be run across 2 Servers, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated and thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER 1
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 06/05/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Sebring
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 19 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

SERVER 2
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 06/05/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Sebring
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 19 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

The Team Championship Standings can be found here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=309&theme=6

GT67 Mod: The GT67 Mod for GPL can be downloaded here:
http://www.sportscarlegends.net/index.html


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: francesco on May 01, 2011, 05:56:40 PM +0100
My name is in the Porsche cup season 21 but not in a team for this event.I can't understand why.
Explanation?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 01, 2011, 06:20:15 PM +0100
My name is in the Porsche cup season 21 but not in a team for this event.I can't understand why.
Explanation?

Has any team selected you as their driver?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: vosblod on May 01, 2011, 06:44:53 PM +0100
My name is in the Porsche cup season 21 but not in a team for this event.I can't understand why.
Explanation?
Has any team selected you as their driver?
Ahh it seems you and Phil should both be reserves for the Pasti Porsche's. Will leave Mike to come back to you re that but if you could get one more Pasti you could form a second team.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 01, 2011, 08:33:04 PM +0100
Yes, Tim is right, this is a team event for teams of 3 drivers and you are a reserve for the Pasti Porsche team.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9260.0

If you can get 2 drivers to join you, you can make a new team of 3 as per the rules above and enter full time.

That would suit us as it would give us 10 teams so we could run 2 servers of 5 teams each.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 01, 2011, 09:00:45 PM +0100
Yes, Tim is right, this is a team event for teams of 3 drivers and you are a reserve for the Pasti Porsche team.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9260.0

If you can get 2 drivers to join you, you can make a new team of 3 as per the rules above and enter full time.

That would suit us as it would give us 10 teams so we could run 2 servers of 5 teams each.
Mike

We've got another driver to make up a second Past Porsche Team.  Line up is

Phil Thornton
Natan5
Francesco

Hope you can fit us in  :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 01, 2011, 10:38:15 PM +0100
You've been added as Team 10 Pastit Porsche.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: vosblod on May 01, 2011, 10:41:58 PM +0100
You've been added as Team 10 Pastit Porsche.
Team Past It, can I join? ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: maddog on May 01, 2011, 11:04:45 PM +0100
Grumble . . . grumble! :( Thinks . . .  new motto, "We may be historic, but we're not hysteric!" ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: EvilClive on May 02, 2011, 05:29:53 PM +0100
WOW!!!  :o :o :o  10 teams = 30 drivers who want to take part in this series!!!! and still room for a couple of more teams if the drivers come forward. ;)

Looks like being an absolute blast of a championship with all abilities battling for every point they can get right down through the field. The extra challenge of switching servers and racing different teams through the season makes it even more interesting.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: francesco on May 02, 2011, 11:25:33 PM +0100
OK ,thank you Phil,we can race!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 04, 2011, 09:51:02 AM +0100
Gosh - this is going to be hard - i am finding it very difficult to find the braking points correctly. The range of times on GPL Rank is amazing - I've got to find 20 secs or so to even be midfield I think.

Back to the practice...

Later: I have found 18 seconds so I will be sub 3:00 in a few hours or so but there is SO much time to be gained and lost on the slower corners - drag race on the straights but its gonna be the bends that decide this one. Any rules on going wide at corners (i.e. outside the hay bales)? and what about cutting the chicane to avoid a crash?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 04, 2011, 11:04:04 AM +0100
We have rules that cover that. Specifically, cutting the chicane to avoid a crash is fine. Once. It is continual cutting to seek an advantage that will be moderated.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 04, 2011, 11:14:55 AM +0100
I have found that sometimes I go in a bit hot and can't make the second corner so what happens is that I end up going over the grass after the chicane which effectively cuts the next right hander. There is no advantage since there is no traction but presumably it would be penalised?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 04, 2011, 01:31:38 PM +0100
Tom took a look at me driving round (UKGPL_3 is up for practice) and shook his head and left.  :laugh:

I was busy overdriving to a 2:58 and he sauntered round in 2:52 :(

Thanks for the tips, Tom, appreciate it. I'll try them out later. I was a bit busy to chat...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Tom van Ostade on May 04, 2011, 01:51:12 PM +0100
Tom took a look at me driving round (UKGPL_3 is up for practice) and shook his head and left.  :laugh:

I was busy overdriving to a 2:58 and he sauntered round in 2:52 :(

Thanks for the tips, Tom, appreciate it. I'll try them out later. I was a bit busy to chat...

:D sure. I was actually testing my pedals as I'd just cleaned them, after I noticed some spluttering in the throttle pedal at Monaco yesterday.

I can do 1:48's on my own, perhaps faster with slipstream. I could see you were very carefull with the car on turn in. The Porsche is a car which can be taken by the scruff of the neck and thrown about even more than a 65 car. So I'd advice to turn in more aggresively on entries to corners. Do not brake later, your braking distances are the same as mine. You can also floor it once you hit the apex of the corner, the back end will not step out unless it's a really slow corner like the hairpin. But the main thing is to make better use of the steering wheel :) .

Does anyone happen to have a setup for the Porsche for Sebring?

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 04, 2011, 02:29:31 PM +0100
Blimey - if you can do 1:48's I need to get a tow rope - 2:48 I think  :laugh:

Tried to be more agressive and saw lots of the scenery - hay bales, planes, cones etc.  :laugh:

Still I am down to a 2:56 which is respectable I think and I can probably run 2:58's steady. Not exactly an easy track to defend on though...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 04, 2011, 07:27:10 PM +0100
Ok this is turning into a journal but just had a quick race with our new Brazilian member Raoni - three laps and I hoped to lose no more than 25 seconds. Three laps, three crashes - minor but still time consuming. 3:07, 3:06 and 3:02. 40 seconds down. If I had run my 2:58's like I planned I would have been 19 secs down. That would have been ok but it is funny what adrenaline does. Made silly mistakes trying to get that extra bit of speed. That 90+ degree turn on to the back straight is really hard to carry speed into and I can't seem to get the hairpin right. Apart from that not too bad.

I know I shouldn't be pleased with the mediocrity but when I started this morning I was doing 3:20 so I've improved by 12%. Its the next 12 that is hard :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: blito on May 04, 2011, 09:58:59 PM +0100
If you see me loafing around anywhere paul, grab my setup off me and we`ll have some steady laps... 1:52pbs with 1:54 being a gentle stroll. no need to throw the car around when its a PRO damage event... there`ll be a lot of non-finishers so get yaself a nice stable setup and cruise to a points finish....
I`ll be there at the start but I doubt if my connection will hold long enough to see the finish :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 04, 2011, 10:22:58 PM +0100
Does anyone happen to have a setup for the Porsche for Sebring?
I'm crap at developing setups so there is no point in me giving you any advice.  However I downloaded Steve Cloyd's WR setup from GPLRank (http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/gplrank.php) and I found it to be very driveable (no alien tentacles needed).  I recommend starting with that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: NickyIckx on May 05, 2011, 09:40:12 AM +0100
Quote
However I downloaded Steve Cloyd's WR setup from GPLRank and I found it to be very driveable

 ??? I am to stupid to find any setups at GPLRANK webside.. how does it work ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: G Jonsson on May 05, 2011, 10:11:01 AM +0100
Quote
However I downloaded Steve Cloyd's WR setup from GPLRank and I found it to be very driveable

 ??? I am to stupid to find any setups at GPLRANK webside.. how does it work ?


You go here: http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showWR (http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showWR) and click on the track and car you want, and then click on the laptime here: http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showHotlaps=1487,53,1 (http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showHotlaps=1487,53,1)

In there is the replay and some times, like in this, the setup. Good luck!

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: NickyIckx on May 05, 2011, 06:15:45 PM +0100
 ;) :D ;D many thanks Göran !!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 05, 2011, 07:01:54 PM +0100
I'm probably going to miss this one, both due to lack of practice (no steering wheel, but will probably buy some joystick tomorrow) and because I'm out to celebrate two friends names day.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: NickyIckx on May 05, 2011, 07:59:48 PM +0100
Quote
I'm probably going to miss this one, both due to lack of practice (no steering wheel, but will probably buy some joystick tomorrow)

 ??? what happend to your old wheel ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 05, 2011, 08:06:49 PM +0100
Nothing, but it doesn't get detected on my new PC, even though the sound card appears to be working OK (it's a gameport wheel). I was going to use my old PC to at least be able to drive, but then it went down due to some electric shock which fried the HDD and something else (doesn't show picture at all when I turn the PC on).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: fpolicardi on May 05, 2011, 11:41:36 PM +0100
T7 Server is ready set for a 19 laps GP race, listening on Igor in Console session. So remember to launch a GP race, not Long.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: fpolicardi on May 05, 2011, 11:44:49 PM +0100
Are my Team7 mates ready for the race? Please confirm your partecipation Bob and Sky  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: s2173 on May 06, 2011, 04:29:51 AM +0100
Il be there, fpollicardi...  And thanks for the setup. I hardly would be of any use with my 3.07 laptimes, but whatever. And with gt's i often get random screenfreezes online and offline (one of the reasons i hate them so much) so idk how long I will last in the race...  :-[

edit: make that 3.30 laptimes... maybe 3.45...  :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 06, 2011, 06:28:00 AM +0100
Nothing, but it doesn't get detected on my new PC, even though the sound card appears to be working OK (it's a gameport wheel). I was going to use my old PC to at least be able to drive, but then it went down due to some electric shock which fried the HDD and something else (doesn't show picture at all when I turn the PC on).

Hi Hristo

There is an adapter possible for Gameport-> USB!
In my pre online times, I used one for my RC-Controler cause the receiver had a Gameport adapter.
Got it at Conrad electronics, for about 20€ called "MANHATTAN". No need for software installation.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: NickyIckx on May 06, 2011, 08:45:16 AM +0100
Quote
There is an adapter possible for Gameport-> USB!

 ;)could be worth to try .
I do have one of those adapter and will give it away for free Hristo .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 06, 2011, 09:19:20 AM +0100
It has been suggested to me that teams would like to be able to spot their team mates on track which in GPL is not easy.

It is possible for you to change the helmet colour of your driver for these races so you could decide among yourselves what colour each team will use.

I've noticed that a drivers helmet can change colour depending how far away they are and also as these are closed cockpit cars it may not be so easy to see but it could help if teams wanted to do it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: fpolicardi on May 06, 2011, 09:25:03 AM +0100
Il be there, fpollicardi...  And thanks for the setup. I hardly would be of any use with my 3.07 laptimes, but whatever. And with gt's i often get random screenfreezes online and offline (one of the reasons i hate them so much) so idk how long I will last in the race...  :-[

edit: make that 3.30 laptimes... maybe 3.45...  :'(
Take easy and try to see the checquered flag, and stay away from those nasty concrete tires and cones, in particular way on the right side where the car is wider respect the point of view in car, a slight touch and these nimble cars became undriveable.
Try to reduce detail slider to 50/70%, and only cars and track on mirrors, it helps at start where all the cars are packed.
Default start grid is a little weird, but it works for online starts.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 06, 2011, 11:05:15 AM +0100
Nothing, but it doesn't get detected on my new PC, even though the sound card appears to be working OK (it's a gameport wheel). I was going to use my old PC to at least be able to drive, but then it went down due to some electric shock which fried the HDD and something else (doesn't show picture at all when I turn the PC on).

Hi Hristo

There is an adapter possible for Gameport-> USB!
In my pre online times, I used one for my RC-Controler cause the receiver had a Gameport adapter.
Got it at Conrad electronics, for about 20€ called "MANHATTAN". No need for software installation.

Yeah, I've researched about such kind of adapters, but most users report a lack of properly working FF when using one, as well as loss of precision and some buttons not working at all. I've decided to get a Creative Sound Blaster Live 5.1 card and see if its gameport is better supported than my CMI8738's.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: maddog on May 06, 2011, 12:10:54 PM +0100
Beware, if contemplating a Soundblaster soundcard!  They don't get along well with GPL for some reason.  I could'nt get one to work, even after upgrading to a recommended driver, some years back.  Perhaps the situation has changed - anyone out there using one ATM? ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Tom van Ostade on May 06, 2011, 12:53:24 PM +0100
Does anyone happen to have a setup for the Porsche for Sebring?
I'm crap at developing setups so there is no point in me giving you any advice.  However I downloaded Steve Cloyd's WR setup from GPLRank (http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/gplrank.php) and I found it to be very driveable (no alien tentacles needed).  I recommend starting with that.

Hi Phil,

I tried using Steve's setups from time to time but I can never get a feel for them. I can't notice when the grip drops off and when I have to begin steering into the slide. I've made a setup of my own, but it's hard to get a progressive feel in the tires. It's like either they slide or they stick. I'll have to see in the race :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 06, 2011, 02:27:45 PM +0100
Yeah, I've researched about such kind of adapters, but most users report a lack of properly working FF when using one, as well as loss of precision and some buttons not working at all. I've decided to get a Creative Sound Blaster Live 5.1 card and see if its gameport is better supported than my CMI8738's.

I have this card in one of my old PCs, afaik its hard to find the right Creative drivers but I have them somewhere!
Very good for the sound of the card is: kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?language=en
The driver of the gameport is integrated in XP OS!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 06, 2011, 07:02:20 PM +0100
T7 Server is ready set for a 19 laps GP race, listening on Igor in Console session. So remember to launch a GP race, not Long.
Ciao

Thank you Fulvio


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: jhalli on May 06, 2011, 09:32:09 PM +0100
quite bad latency on server2 , i dont know if this going to work , showing ping is about 400


i dont even get to the server anymore   >:(   :thumbdown:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Raoni Frizzo on May 06, 2011, 11:28:21 PM +0100
It would be a great race if it had 18 laps ;D

I was able to keep the 1st position at the start and slowly gain advantage from Tommie and Evil. Remaining 5 or 6 laps, approacing the first chicane, my car inexplicably turned to the left alone, without any command from mine. Then I clipped the tires, spun and lost the 10 seconds gap from Tommie.

During the last laps we had a great battle, changing the lead some times. I entered the last lap leading, but made a serious mistake at the same chicane. Trying to put it back to the racing line without losing the lead, crashed into de hay barrier and my car start doing some cartwheels, stopping upside. A melancholy end of the race for me.

At least I lost only one lap and finished 7th, behind my teammates Du Fossa (5th) and Jonny (6th). Great job guys! I feel sorry for wasting a great result with a dumb mistake. :(

But...that's racing! ;D Congratulations to Tommie for the funny chase and the great win. Grats to the podium and all the finishers too.

See ya on Paul Ricard, where I hope to have a little more luck :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: JonnyO on May 07, 2011, 12:02:58 AM +0100
  Congratulations to the winner!

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 07, 2011, 12:05:13 AM +0100
Thank you all for your patience with Server 2 that was set incorrectly and thank you to Fulvio for stepping in and helping with a server.

i have changed the settings and the server should be OK next time, but if not, we have a stand by.

I will import the results when I have the replay.

Thanks again Fulvio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: blito on May 07, 2011, 07:24:54 AM +0100
I really enjoyed that. The race in server 2 was exceptionally clean as evidenced by there being  only two retirements from a 12 car starting grid. These cars are just fantastic to race and the Sebring circuit is perfect for online racing, so many passing places! Great to race so close with Fulvio, great that my internet connection held out for once, and great to bring some points home for the Wazas...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Geoff65 on May 07, 2011, 08:14:53 AM +0100
Well, a steady if uninspiring comeback to racing at UKGPL. Qualified 8th, much slower than my best in the car here....but not really a problem. Got off the line well and negotiated the first two corners carefully as it was a bit congested in front. Approaching the first 90 I thought about a nibble up the inside of Steve, but bailed early in favour of survival..:)
Poor Jonny O behind didn't think I was gonna brake so early and in the midst of avoiding action gave me a little sideswipe which sent me spinning wildly thru the field......and carrying Du Fossa off the track with me. Sorry Jonny, I did think about the pass but Steve had the fast line and pressed his advantage.....leaving me no option but to brake early.
I had no desire to take out my teamie!!.....:(
Got going again last, and spent a few laps running down the drivers ahead, some making mistakes at the the head of the back straight.....others letting me by, thanks Tim. By the time I ran out of cars that could be seen ahead there were still something like 13 laps to run. Sebring is a diabolically boring track when driving on your own. Concentration wandered, and paired with the rear tyres not liking the punishment dealt out to them, a couple of silly spins ensued at various points of the track. The car survived without any damage however my previously ok connection must have had some sort of brain fart, although the leaders lapped me on the track half way thru the 2nd last lap......it counted me 2 laps down***....never mind, the drive wasn't that deserving anyway. All in all a good race though, everyone behaved themselves well. Congratulations to Tommie, and commiserations to Raoni for his last lap altercation with fodder. It was a sight to see him cartwheeling along the track margin just in front of me. Pretty tough luck to Steve Bird...parking his Porka atop one of those aforesaid items of fodder on the back straight. They make haybales tough in America, don't they? Any wonder McGyver always carried hayband as well as his duct tape.... ;D


***I must have upset the Clark-Hill Ceremonial Gundy in some way....It seems he must have instructed the server to force me to repeat Lap 11. In my replay I did 2 lap 11's, with a combined laptime of 5:47.XX.......Hence the 2 laps down thing. How extraordinary!! :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: EvilClive on May 07, 2011, 02:23:56 PM +0100
I was looking forward to these Porsche races with some mixed expectations.
The few practice runs that I did in the Porsche at Sebring were very unpredictable. Sometimes I would get the car around in something like a 2:48 and the next time I struggled to do a 2:52!! Sometimes I would be able to drive through corners and the car felt really hooked up and on another occasion it felt like someone had thrown oil all over the track!!

I fully expected some guys to be running 2:44's or faster for qually and was therefore VERY surprised when my PB lap of 2:46 put me on pole until Rizzo's very last lap snatched it from me ( well done mate  ;).
When the race started it seemed that I had a different car again and I struggled to stay with Rizzo, even though I was using the exact same setup and fuel load that I had used for qually?? Then Tommy crept up on me from behind and I was forced to defend my 2nd place on some corners which allowed the leader to creep even farther in front. Then I suffered from the GT brake gremlin as we approached the final corner and my car just wanted to plough straight on as if the brakes were locked. I managed to dodge between the cones and avoid any damage, but Tommy was through and gone. That left me in 3rd and running with quie a gap back to Andrea in 4th and I could see Tommy about 2-3secs ahead.
I just could not get the car to lap at anything like my qually pace..maybe trying just a little too hard  :-\ and tried to settle in for a steady 3rd spot. Then I totally lost concentration for a few laps and Andrea was all over me like a rash, until I ran wide and let him through.
It took me a couple of more offs and 2 or 3 laps to regain my composure and start running respectable lap times again and I could see Nicky Ickx getting larger in my mirror until I upped my pace and restored the gap.

Rizzo's incident on the last lap was unfortunate, but grats to Tommy for getting the win and to Andrea for 2nd. I was more than happy with a podium place in a race where I was not expecting to do well.

This has the making of a great season's fun, already looking forward to the next round.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: b_1_rd on May 07, 2011, 02:28:12 PM +0100
My race report:  MESSED IT UP! Again!

Clearly I need to start pushing more in some areas if I want to get faster as what I'm doing now clearly isn't working if I need to find so much time after this amount of driving in GPL and still making stupid errors that waste all the practise.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 07, 2011, 06:02:50 PM +0100
Strange how your POV is so dependent on where you are on the learning curve. I got a 2:56 in practice and was really chuffed but I truly do not know where you find 11 seconds. I can't believe that it was entirely down to lack of pace out of the corners. What sort of top speeds where you achieving? I was nowhere near the speeds I could get at Reims and yes the straights are shorter but the exits are quicker.

Is that 11 seconds all down to lack of driving talent or is my setup knackering me as well?

I know Tom thought I needed to be braver but I was finding that I just couldn't make the corner - possibly I am just not turning in early enough. If it is bad for you Steve, try my end of the grid ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: EvilClive on May 07, 2011, 06:29:07 PM +0100
I suspect that it is a little of both Paul. At Sebring, the speed that you carry through almost all corners is gaining time all along the following straight.

I find that to go fast I need confidence, and to give me confidence, I need a setup that allows me to push hard through the corners without any nasty surprises.When I don't get any nasty shocks, I have the confidence to try a little harder and the speed increases. Even now, I find that I am changing my driving style to brake a little sooner and concentrate on getting the power down earlier and more smoothly which has meant adapting my setups to allow the car to respond as I want it to.

So one thing is dependent upon the other.

The trick in all this, is finding the type of setup that works for the driving style you have right now. It will change over time and so will the setups you use.
Some people like the Steve Cloyd setups, which are undoubtedly fast in the right hands, but not in mine  :-\ I cannot keep his setups on the tarmac at anywhere near his pace. His Porsche setup in his hands is 4 seconds faster than my PB around Sebring, so it obviously suits his style??

The other thing that I suffer from, is trying too hard and not easing/caressing the car through the corners without breaking the traction by sudden application of gas or brakes. All little things that add up over the course of a lap I'm afraid.
In other words, it comes down to practice and more practice and experimentation. ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Paul Ricard-Next Race
Post by: Geoff65 on May 07, 2011, 07:05:42 PM +0100
Whilst the car is still fresh I've been to Paul Ricard for a trot around. Is there a problem with this track does anyone know? Every time I watch a replay, on or offline, as the car negotiates the last turn....GPL CTD's. Every time, bar none. Is this worth investigating further before we try to race it online? We don't need more mass disco's.
Geoff.


UPDATE: It seems the problem only exists in TV1 and 2. Onboard and chase view so far have both been fine. I'm not using Prib at the moment Mike, so that shouldn't be an issue. I may have the full updates installed for this track....So I'll do a full re-install of the track minus updates and report back. If it's fine after the re-install, could it be a problem with updated camera files?

UPDATE 2: It looks like a problem with the camera file only. After a re-install it still CTD's only on TV1 &TV2......all others are fine. And driving it alone on Cookie's server with my less than perfect connection it seemed fine..no dramas to report.Should we give it a test race first before we swap to that horrible Bugatti thing. That reeks more than an excess of garlic in the Escargot.......


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: maddog on May 07, 2011, 07:27:45 PM +0100
I've not raced Paul Richard enough to vouch for it, but experience the same problem at Hockenheim.  From the cockpit, Hockenheim seems fine, so don't hock it 'til you try it?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Paul Ricard-Next Race
Post by: miner2049er on May 07, 2011, 07:44:53 PM +0100
Whilst the car is still fresh I've been to Paul Ricard for a trot around. Is there a problem with this track does anyone know? Every time I watch a replay, on or offline, as the car negotiates the last turn....GPL CTD's. Every time, bar none. Is this worth investigating further before we try to race it online? We don't need more mass disco's.
Geoff.


Is it the pit lane/prib issue Geoff?

I will host some practise sessions for it this week.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Paul Ricard-Next Race
Post by: jhalli on May 07, 2011, 10:41:32 PM +0100
Whilst the car is still fresh I've been to Paul Ricard for a trot around. Is there a problem with this track does anyone know? Every time I watch a replay, on or offline, as the car negotiates the last turn....GPL CTD's. Every time, bar none. Is this worth investigating further before we try to race it online? We don't need more mass disco's.
Geoff.



quick 3 lap test on the track with Mirage without troubles on cockpit or in replays, i use  Paul Ricard without any updates.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 07, 2011, 10:56:36 PM +0100
Again, I'm against the use of Paul Ricard. It's been notorious with causing screen freeze in multiple league races in the past, including BREASTS and UKGPL.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 08, 2011, 12:08:51 AM +0100
I've not raced Paul Richard enough to vouch for it, but experience the same problem at Hockenheim.  From the cockpit, Hockenheim seems fine, so don't hock it 'til you try it?
I did some laps in Ricard today with no problems at all.
But my hometrack Hockenheim suddenly was getting problems, couldnt finish one session without a freeze. On my server with 36fps as well as on the Funliga with 60fps. Can it be one or some of the track addons?
Will try Hockene again with a basic install!
Never had this before...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: b_1_rd on May 08, 2011, 12:09:28 AM +0100
If it is bad for you Steve, try my end of the grid ;)

I have thanks!

If there is someone on here that is remotely human with 2 arms and 2 legs that's faster I would like to go faster. Whether I will ever achieve that aim or not is a lifetime away.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 08, 2011, 12:20:12 AM +0100
You can't judge if the track is OK or not by doing a few laps on your own. Problems occur when it's run online with a decent field... The majority of tracks which are black listed work just fine when you practice offline or on a practice server with a handful of people.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: BadBlood on May 08, 2011, 12:55:11 AM +0100
I have thanks!

LOL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 08, 2011, 02:06:52 AM +0100
You can't judge if the track is OK or not by doing a few laps on your own. Problems occur when it's run online with a decent field... The majority of tracks which are black listed work just fine when you practice offline or on a practice server with a handful of people.

I tested Hockene with full addons (looking nice and realistic!) could not do 2 consecutive laps without freeze, even on my own server!
Ton8 with Martin and another guy with basic install of track no probs but one disco on Funliga server 60fps.

We will have a race there with Funliga on May 12, 20:00 CET (19:00 UK) with GTs.
Its open practice race, so I invite you all to test the track with 60fps.

Hope to see all of you to make the grid full!

Axel


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: JonnyO on May 08, 2011, 05:01:09 AM +0100
 Geoff, I was very upset by touch. :-[

  Unfortunately destroy his race, who is behind have to be careful, I'm sorry.

  It was a typical situation, there were two cars to divide the curve and I had full view of this dispute.
  would be logical that one of you would have to brake more, and I should have guessed that.

  My race was a little lonely, walked much of the evidence alone and made ​​a mistake more serious at the end of a line, my car skidded off the runway and crashed into a hay, but I managed to stay in the race, albeit with a slower pace because of the accident.

  But it's great, really wanted to finish the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 08, 2011, 10:38:54 AM +0100
...now getting a little impatient about the results of our race at the servers 2

Are there any problems with the replays?
I saved it after the race but not the practice


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 08, 2011, 11:02:59 AM +0100
...now getting a little impatient about the results of our race at the servers 2

We have a replay but I have not been able to import the results yet. I hope to do the provisional results today and the final results after moderation later this week.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 08, 2011, 02:16:02 PM +0100
The results for both servers have been imported, so please submit any race incidents that you want the moderators to look at.

Lap 1 is fully moderated but other laps are only moderated for reported incidents.

Thanks


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: jhalli on May 08, 2011, 04:51:49 PM +0100
here's practise times ,  server have problem but we did good race after server change .




Track: Sebr67             Fri May 06 23:30:04 2011

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  37 Juha HalliGT                     Porsche  FIN 2m45.309s              4
 2  51 Pedro Berg_vd                    Porsche  HOL 2m47.608s   02.299s    3
 3  45 natan vix gt                     Porsche  BEL 2m47.776s   02.467s    8
 4  36 Bob Whitwell                     Porsche  GBR 2m49.943s   04.634s    2
 5  32 Axel Cookie                      Porsche  GER 2m49.963s   04.654s    6
 6  57 Göran JonssonGT                  Porsche  SWE 2m50.930s   05.621s    5
 7  22 Ronnie Peterson                  Porsche  ITA 2m51.305s   05.996s    7
 8  23 Phil ThorntonGT                  Porsche  GBR 2m51.885s   06.576s    7
 9  41 Jason Blito                      Porsche  GBR 2m52.686s   07.377s    6
10  26 franGT Molteni                   Porsche  ITA 2m54.657s   09.348s    6
11  31 Fabio GT Locarno                 Porsche  ITA 2m55.483s   10.174s    8
12  27 5 UKGPL.GT                       Chap 2D  GBR   No time   No time    0

All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of practice)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: jhalli on May 08, 2011, 05:23:06 PM +0100
good race for me, pole time and in the race there was nothing to do just finish the race , Hristo missed the race so it was "easy" to win.  My 2nd win on this track and this league !  ;D

and good race for our Porche international team,  grats also Cookie and Ronnie !!  :)

hope i have more interesting next race

Juha


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 08, 2011, 05:39:54 PM +0100
I should be back next race, so enjoy it while you can!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: G Jonsson on May 08, 2011, 11:51:00 PM +0100
Humm Mike, there has been some kind of mixup here about the team thing. You have both Black night racing and SuperCup Black night. But the team, what ever you call it, is:

6 TEAM NAME - Goran (SERVER 2)
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

taken from the race thread, so please make our total points 85.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: vosblod on May 09, 2011, 12:09:57 AM +0100
so please make our total points 85.
Easily fixed Goran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 09, 2011, 09:34:56 AM +0100
Sorry Goran, thanks Tim.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: G Jonsson on May 09, 2011, 09:52:32 AM +0100
Thanks Tim, no problem Mike.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Cookie on May 09, 2011, 09:55:46 AM +0100
Porsche International Team No 1

Thanx Juha and Ray!

My first race on this track, good race with Nathan who did the job to make the way free...
After his suicidal overtaking I slipped through and was caught later by him as I crashed the hayballs with a brakelock at the hairpin.

Luckily Fabio had a spare server, so nobody seems to have had problems!

Cheers
Axel



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: fpolicardi on May 09, 2011, 01:15:40 PM +0100
Stressing start for me  :o
I couldn't join server2 cause high ping and when eventually I did I couldn't get any q time. Then I proposed to shift server cause many others had conn. problem. I had to set the right number of laps and in the first attempt I failed, sry for  another delay at start.
Eventually we all joined in q time order, almost all  ;D , and we could start the race.
I started last and I wasn't confident at all with the car that looked like a tank to drive with 50 L. of fuel ???
Luckily the stress went down so I could pass some car avoiding to do errors. When I had a confortable gap to Goran I saw Francesco stuck on the bank of the hairpin. Instinctively I tried to hit him to free him from that embarrasing position, but I failed and in the meantime Goran and Blito passed by. I had a close battle with Blito and eventually I managed to pass him and almost caught Ronnie.
Ciao
P.S.
Luckily my team mate Bob got 3rd :)
Sky had you some late moment problem?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: francesco on May 09, 2011, 09:18:48 PM +0100
Quote
Instinctively I tried to hit him to free him from that embarrasing position, but I failed
Thank you Policardi but was not enough.Sorry to Vix for a touch during a breaking.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: Geoff65 on May 10, 2011, 05:27:51 AM +0100
Geoff, I was very upset by touch. :-[

  Unfortunately destroy his race, who is behind have to be careful, I'm sorry.

  It was a typical situation, there were two cars to divide the curve and I had full view of this dispute.
  would be logical that one of you would have to brake more, and I should have guessed that.

 

Not a problem Jonny, you didn't really ruin my race....I was back up to my starting possie within 6laps thanks to others throwing it off the road. What ruined my race was lack of concentration and chucking it off the road twice myself.   ??? Just a little rusty it seems, things should improve with a bit more racing...I hope. Comebacks are hard work...... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Sebring (GP) - May 6
Post by: miner2049er on May 18, 2011, 09:18:49 PM +0100
Race Mod Published.

Results final pending appeals.