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Practice 1: 19:40 BST (60 mins)
Qual 2:      20:40 BST (20 mins)
Race:        21:00 BST (39 Laps) - note: no warm up!

ROLLING START!

Cars allowed: Any car from Formula 1 1988 For GTR2 V0.9 - Available to download from here (http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,fileinfo/id,1261/lang,en/) or here. (http://www.simworldgt.com/?n=Formula_One_-_F1_1988&p=download_details&id=52)
Track: Monaco88 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_monaco88)).

Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: DRY.

Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: normal.

Server: simracing.org.uk F1
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=315&theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

Pactice server schedule:

Because of other events taking place this bank holiday weekend, there will be limited time on the practice server for this event. I plan to start the server Sunday evening after our SGT event and will run until the start of our GTL event 18:00 Monday evening. The practice server will then run as normal from the end of the GTL race around 22:00 Monday. If you haven't practised yet, you really ought to  :laugh:

If you wish to join this race, please choose an available car after reading the following post......

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9337.0

I won't be able to make this race...so if anyone wants to try a different car or if anyone new wants to race, the Minardi (Martini) car will be available.

I know i'm blaspheming but wit hthe cars being quite sensitve to damage and especially round Monaco where the slightest knock is going to have quite large consequences for everyone on track as there is no room for error, could we reduce the damage considerably or even turn it off :ninja:? This will also help to allow people to carry on and try and finish. Think of this as an iR reset!

Yee ha... I'm back in racing land! It's been a tough 10 day absence... but raring to go again.

I'm just about to do some laps offline till the server comes up after the marathon GTL race (10pm ish).


So what lap times should I be aiing for here?

I've thought long and hard about damage levels and appreciate that it is very difficult to keep it clean in these cars, especially on a street circuit. We already run this series at 50% damage which seems to be enough to get away with light contact and avoid us losing wings etc as easily as we otherwise might. For instance, in my testing I've found that I'm able to get away with brushing the barrier. I'd be reluctant to lower it any further for this race as surely that is all part of the challenge of Monaco.


Well I'm getting into the 1:22s in the Benetton after my usual couple of hundreds of laps pracci. You might want to check out the times at the bude (which are presumably with very light fuel loads) if you really want something to aim at  :o


http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_gtlreporter/Itemid,53/Mode,bestlaps/lang,en/?track=88Monaco&driver=*&class=F1-88&vehicle=*&limit=25

I expect to last less than 10 laps here. Crazy. :-\

I turned only today at 1.30 AM, and I was slightly "alcoholic" to drive the F1 88 in this extremely difficult circuit.

I spent quite half an hour to finish the warm up lap  ;D ;D ;D But when I recovered a bit my driving capabilities, I was really close to the high 1.22... I stopped at 1.23.2, but I managed to do only 7 laps in raw before destroying the Coloni... So the challenge in this track will be see the checkered flag  ;D ;D

See you later for the race! Bye bye!

got the computer running and internet finally works and reliable!!

been testing the March and going to try the Coloni now

Good to have you with us Purdie  8)

Both March cars are free, but the single Coloni is taken. Pier Luigi Martini's Minardi is also free for this event.

See here.....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9337.msg169484#msg169484

Indeed.

Try to get to the end of the race and not the front of the field.  ;D

I have had one proper on line race at Monaco in the past, GT500 with a full grid and standing start. One person made a mistake into turn 1 and at least 10 cars (including me) had to park and wait for the cars to un jam them selfs. Many cars crashed during the 1 hour race and it was all about trying to stay incident free.

It was excellent fun and a real challenge, I must say.

Be extra careful out there tonight and try not to block the track completely at any point. ;D

A few laps against the AI can be a help here I believe.

Shame that... really enjoyed practicing for that!
Unfortunately a turn one crash on lap 2 could not be avoided and that was that... shame!

Well that was gutting. For whatever reason, on multiplayer, the led screen showing what gear I had selected was missing  ???. Nevertheless that was a minor problem. Another set back was when we started the race, I found the engine health given on xd was at 1%! I wasn't sure I could quit and rejoin so decided not to risk it and see how far I could manage. On lap two, thanks for my draw distance set on low, I was completely unsighted at the lap 2 crash at St Devote and ploughed into the mess. My car was in an awful shape, but decided to pit rather than quit. Then I found that the GTR2 auto pit feature was on despite me being pretty certain I turned it off. As a result of this I found Truetom in the pit space I required so needed to sit tight and watch.

Finally I could get my car repaired but it took over a minute and as a result found myself a lap down on everyone. Nevertheless, I was determined to finish the race and get my money's worth  :). I lapped steadily to lap 7, until the engine burst into flames. Well that was predictable, especially with a 1% health reading I suppose. I'm praying I'll finish at the next one. I really am  :-\.

Was sitting behind 3 cars keeping a safe distance for a couple of laps waiting for one of them to pass, and got rammed up the chuff into T1
went to pit with a missing wing and front left wheel and they didnt replace the wheel and or suspension, so went round again on 3
realised I'd set no tyre change on the 3rd attempt and still no replace, ticked everyting I could, tried again
had passed Purdie in the pits by now so gave in. there was a red X against the left front in the
pit clipboard, I guess it was too badly damaged or something.

wow this mod is mega on gtr2, played alot of the rf version

good quali and first run on softs with light fuel made the car feel like it was on rails  :) and i set a time early that i couldn't better

Navin and I pulled away from the pack, the running was quite steady and i made the odd harmless mistake but generally kept consistent.... then about 12 laps in i made a small error which was a was a 2min pit stop to repair  :-[ and i went out again and damaged the whole lot again and decided to watch.... great drive Navin and goldtop... (and all runners !!!!!)

you will killing me on the entry to the swimming pool chicane Navin  :)..... my car was murder over those kerbs

can't wait for the next round but fear the March might be out of its depth elsewhere, except maybe other city road-courses. Not sure what Mexico City is like  ::) fingers crossed!  :P

Didn't get to put in my normal level of practice & it showed in my pace. Got steadily faster, but I kept racking up the front nose cone repairs till the pit manager declared we'd run out ;D

Still had some fun along the way though :)

Oh fugger, not sure if I managed to finish that or not as I had a connection lost message come up just as I crossed the line. My name went blue, but Navin's didn't, so I think I maybe dropped out just before he finished :'( 

Anyway, great race! and big grats to Navin for the win and those who finished....SRW and Spanner I think  8)

decided to just stay out for the whole race even if i hit the barriers (as i figured i was going to hit them several times during the race so would probably lose less time just losing a couple of seconds a lap rather than a minute in the pits) all was going to plan and i was up to third (one hand on my first UKGTR podium finish) then with about three corners to go the game crashed.. i am gutted

Wow, I ended up doing just that and had to hit Esc to prevent any cars from hitting me and after watching the replay I was not quick enough to help Blunder. I was less than a second too slow by the look of my replay. Sorry, bud. :(

Well done SWR for getting passed that mess incident free, I did not even see you when I was on the track, just looked behind and saw a car coming in. That is street racing for you though, no where to go. Gutted to go out so early but, it was a nice event and I enjoyed watching Navin and GT and a few others on track. :)

Well done all, good job podiums and SRW. SRW was ahead of spanner before he discoed.

I would like to say that those cars on that track has to be about as difficult as racing on GTR2 can be.

So, extra 'very well done everyone'. :)

+1  8)

I can confirm that as I noticed that both SRW and GT where in "limbo" after I finished. SRW was in 3rd and certainly deserves the well earned podium :thumbup1: Congrats too for Goldtops 2nd place ;D

Weird thing in qualy that I couldn't really get the balance right with light fuel and soft tires so I wasn't any quicker in qualy than in the race. As a matter of a fact I was 2/10th's quicker then my qualy time on around lap 6.. So I hoped that my race pace would match Purdie's.

The race went very well from the start consolidating 2nd place and getting a gap from 3rd early. I was happy to see that my race pace was about the same as Purdies so I just tried to be smooth as I had no idea on tire wear for late in the race. Purdie started to get just a bit of a gap when on lap 12 I noticed his pace slowed from damage or something. Saw Purdie went into the pits which allows me to stop going 10/10th's. Whew!! :sweatdrop:  I had around 14 seconds on GT at that point so I just went into super concentration "robot" :wacko: mode and hit my marks till the end being very careful with throttle application as tires started to wear out.. Excellent job to all that finished that not so easy :no: race :clap: I Love Monaco!!!! :tt1: Great fun early Purdie :thumbup2:

There were a couple of drivers who turned up last night without reserving cars. Mr AyrSON SONna presumably made a lucky guess at the p/w (which has now been changed for the series). Fortunately for us he qualied on pole and being oblivious to the rolling start disappeared into the distance  ::)

So, just to make it clear......

From now on anyone who joins these races without first reserving a car will be booted

Manteos, please can you let Marco know which cars are available and let me know his choice here.....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9337.0

I want to spend my qualifying time qualifying, not typing messages.

Next time I will speak directly with Marco to suggest him a car choice, but it's difficult for me contacting him during the week in TS or via pm. I'll do what is possible for me  ;)

About the race, I can only say that was impossible to follow the pace of the first 2 guys in front with the Coloni. I spent all the first part of my race in the attempt to keep in sight Goldtop's exhaust, and I managed to do it quite easily, cause GT was not forcing at all with the full tank (he just started to make the accountant  :P :P). The matter was the 2 drivers in front were flying.
When GT went to the pit and changed the tyres, I was thinking about a no pit strategy, but when I realised that my tyres were totally burned, I did a mistake, and I broke my front wing just 50 meters after the pit entrance...  :'( :'( :'(

In that moment, I've lost quite all the desire of racing.... But I tried to go on. I pitted, changing tyres and front wing, and I started to pull as a desperate with the new tyres. I was gaining nearly 1 sec per lap to GT, and even if I was 30 seconds behind him, it was the target to give a sense to my race. I was a lot faster even than Navin (probably he didn't pitted yet?), and I catched him after the pit unlapping by him.

My come back was going pretty good, til my car decided to spin at the exit of the Loews... sadness...
I gained again the pit lane, I repaired again the front wing (I avoided to replace the suspention) and I went back on the track...
With no target except the checkered flag, I was trying to go slowly, but I took the barrier with only 3 laps to go at the chicane after the Tunnel, one tyres flew away, and in the attempt to spin out my engine switched off. Race OVER.

I guess that in Mexico City the Coloni will have even less chances to compete with the long straights... so I will wait some laptime reference by Goldtop, and I will decide if it's the case to try a Ligier, or something a bit more competitive, and a bit less frustrating to drive...
Cu for the next :)

That was amazing :o Never got on with monaco before, never been comfortable in the gtl races, always overdrove with the limited grip available but these car have loads of grip so it was easier to work out what its doing and when it loses grip. Wasnt sure if i should really put the full fuel in for the race as i fully expected to crash out! I just seem to get a relatively steady rythym going, the softs on the front and hard rears were about equal so wasnt too bad, but realised i'd need to stop for tyres as they were wearing quite a bit. Legzy did hold me up a bit for a while but thought it better to slow down and drop back in clear air so i wasnt getting jittery behind.

Think i stopped twice for repairs, first time for a full change, but second for just aero repair.

Managed to get a decent quali lap in, but was a bit shy of a pb as my concentration was broken with all the faffing that was going on. Decided to go on full fuel and softs for race with a tyres only stop just before midway...a bit marginal but worth it for the extra security in the tight sections with all that armco being so close.

Needed to look after my tyres early on and had Manteos right on me for the first 3 or 4 laps, but then was able to pull a more comfortable gap mid stint. Towards half way tyres were getting difficult and Manteos was closing me down again so I pitted for fresh rubber. By this time Navin was 30 seconds up the road and although I could match the pace if I pushed, I couldn't make any impression. Decided to just keep it neat and drive for the finish and a 2nd place.

Manteos, I hope you don't think I was deliberately slowing you down early in the race as that certainly wasn't my intention. I've looked at the replay and it didn't appear that way. Monaco is all about track position and being able to play the cards you have at the right time, which is just what I did. The fact that you are diving a slower car is a big credit to you  8)

Well done to all that took part and congrats to Navin for a dominant show  8)


 

Absolutely not Goldtop, that's faaaaaaaaaaar away from my thinking mate! My joke on the "accountant" was referred to your actual position in the champ and not to your driving in yesterday's race. It's obvious that you don't need to keep pushing to follow 2 drivers that were faster than us during the first part of the race, and if you saw the replay, you would have noticed that I was just studying your braking points, trying to be very conservative to avoid accidents. My race was on you, and not on the leaders, so you did the right thing and your defense was extremely correct in my opinion! The fact that this race was so long and difficult surely increased a bit your caution during the first laps, cause you was able to do better laptimes as you demonstrated the subsequent 6-7 laps putting a gap of approximately 2 seconds between us, but I NEVER thought in any moment you was trying to deliberately slowing me. This is absolutely crazy!
Probably my posts are not so correct, and it's difficult to understand what it's the real meaning of what I'm trying to say... It means I have to study more and more this language :-[

I guess I will go on with the Coloni til I'm able to compete with someone. I hope it will be possible in Mexico City, even if I'm a bit doubtful ??? As soon as possible please post in the Mexico City topic your laptimes just to have a reference. Let's see what happens!
Cu  ;)

Harumph !!! :yes:
(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt233/NavinRJohnson123/Haruphh.jpg)

i want a re-match!  ;)

this was a great combo

Going to be tough for Lotus at Mexico I think ???. In the corners for a long time there. Not good for understeering car :-\. That said, big power cars might do pretty well here. So maybe we will fight it out mid pack ;). Going to be interesting race. Handling cars will kick butt through the s's and then the power cars will fly on the straights. But, like others have said practice time will be very important too. These aren't Formula Fords ;D