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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: miner2049er on May 25, 2011, 11:09:30 PM +0100
UKGPL Season 21 Porsche Super Cup
Race 3 Brands Hatch

Round 3 of the Porsche Super Cup takes place at Brands Hatch, a challenging track that can be very rewarding to drive if you get it right. Take that as a challenge.

There are a couple of nasty bumps to look out for, particularly in Dingle Dell and on the exit of the pit lane. Make sure you have set a decent ride height or you may have trouble bottoming out when you have race fuel on board. Those Porsches are quite delicate you know.

Download the circuit here (http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/brands1967/)
Download the update patch here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9245.0)

Please see the Porsche Super Cup registration thread for an explanation of the Team Setups:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.msg166098#msg166098

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHECK WHICH SERVER YOUR TEAM IS RACING ON AS IT WILL NOT BE THE SAME FOR EVERY RACE OF THE SEASON.

1 TEAM NAME - Pasti Porsche - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Van Ostade
Driver 2 - Am - Nicky Ickx
Driver 3 - Nov - Norbert

2 TEAM NAME - Porsche International - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Juha Hallikainen
Driver 2 - Nov Wink - Ronniepeterson
Driver 3 - Nov - Axel Cookie

3 TEAM NAME - Clark Hill - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Am - Geoff Heard
Driver 2 - Am - Steve Bird
Driver 3 - Am - Vlad Vosblod
Reserve - Nov - Happy Al

4 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 1 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Hristo
Driver 2 - Nov - Paul
Driver 3 - Nov - Blito

5 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 2 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Evil Clive
Driver 2 - Nov - Nigel Smith
Driver 3 - Nov - Karliss

6 TEAM NAME - Black Knight - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

7 TEAM NAME - Team Coyote - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Raoni Frizzo
Driver 2 - Nov - Jonny'O
Driver 3 - Nov - Du Fossa

8 TEAM NAME - Team 7 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Fulvio Policardi
Driver 2 - Am - Bob Whitwell
Driver 3 - Nov - s2173

9 TEAM NAME - Team GPFun - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Andrea Tendas
Driver 2 - Am - Sergio Lonzar
Driver 3 - Nov - Roberto Baldassarri
Reserve - Am - Gianni Sellitto

10 TEAM NAME - Pastit Porsche - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Nov - Maddog
Driver 2 - Am - Natan
Driver 3 - Nov - Francesco

All drivers may join the server immediately but are asked not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Porsche Super Cup Races will be run across 2 Servers, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated and thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER 1
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 03/06/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Brands Hatch
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 33 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

SERVER 2
Race List = IGOR
Server = GPG_8
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Race date = 03/06/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Brands Hatch
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 33 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

The Team Championship Standings can be found here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=309&theme=6

GT67 Mod: The GT67 Mod for GPL can be downloaded here:
http://www.sportscarlegends.net/index.html


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on May 26, 2011, 10:32:13 AM +0100
There is a track fix by Ginetto: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9245.0

No more bumps!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: NickyIckx on May 30, 2011, 08:25:41 AM +0100
 ??? just realised I cant make this one .
damned communion of my sisters son  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: blito on May 30, 2011, 09:08:46 AM +0100
Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: vosblod on May 30, 2011, 12:33:56 PM +0100
Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  ::)
You can blame me for the tracks being lumped together.
An issue was raised last season re having to practice for multiple races at different tracks so I put them into groups where possible to reduce that. I guess you are in the opposite camp. At least after this race Brands is out of the way, although there is a healthy dose of Silverstone on the horizon ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: blito on May 30, 2011, 12:53:37 PM +0100
Actually, I love Brands but it does get a bit repetitive doing the same track in four different leagues. Mind you, like you said it does cut the amount of practice required down quite a bit! I always try to give each and every event a minimum of 1 hour pre-event practice, usually a day or two before the event itself.. Just done about 20 minutes round Aintree in my 1965 BRM P261, finding that the setup from Watkins Glen 2 weeks ago is perfect for Aintree too so I'm a happy bunny! It means I don't need to practice tonight and can snuggle on the Sofa with Karen and maybe watch a film... I can feel a Batman movie coming on I think :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 30, 2011, 05:19:04 PM +0100
Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  ::)

At least we're not running multiple Monzas! I don't mind running a couple of Brands races, it's a great track IMO.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: clouds on June 01, 2011, 09:48:02 AM +0100
Hi Guys,
Do you have any server's replay of previous PSC races ?
The session REPLAYS is not available to me.
May I have permission to access to the replays session as well ?

Thank you.

P.S.: I could upload/dnload my own local replay but with it we can only see 2 cars behind and 5 ahead while a server's replay may show all the cars at once.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: jhalli on June 01, 2011, 08:45:33 PM +0100
there is usually here : 

 http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/


i have also Sebring race replay on HD if you want


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: fpolicardi on June 02, 2011, 05:30:57 PM +0100
T7_2 and GPG_8 servers are ready set on 33 laps LONG race and listening on Igor.

Server 2 is GPG_8, IP address 62.195.32.131


You can find GPG_8 Sebring  and next replays, results and reports at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ , look at the last Time Slot under Current.

Please read the Note at the bottom of the page.

Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: miner2049er on June 02, 2011, 06:29:54 PM +0100
Thank you Fulvio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 03, 2011, 12:21:53 AM +0100
I can't make this race so Martin (maddog) has agreed to take my place in the Pastit Porsche team

Good Luck Martin  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on June 03, 2011, 10:45:22 AM +0100
I haven't seen practice servers up for this (or any other impending UKGPL event) for a few days - is this an error at my end?

Also if anyone is desperate* for a team member, I'm up for trying.

Arf

* chances are I'll warp too badly to bother starting the race...but you never know...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: norbert on June 03, 2011, 05:22:48 PM +0100
 :)
Quote
  Also if anyone is desperate* for a team member, I'm up for trying.
;D
pasti porsches are always desperate ::)
As far as i understood Nicky there's a free seat tonight
Quote
just realised I cant make this one .
damned communion of my sisters son
Well Arf Arf, feel free to join  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on June 03, 2011, 05:40:45 PM +0100
Well Arf Arf, feel free to join   :)

Ok then, I shall!

I am hoping to have a test weapon ready for tonight...my warping problems are easy to read on lots of recent posts, but tonight I hope to race on my old PC rescued from the garage (i.e. not on a laptop), and as I can't make the wireless work on it, I shall be wired.

I still think the issue is the internet connection, as as my landlord hasn't moved his a**e to fix a ******* thing. As such I suspect these changes won't make a difference, and I'll have bad warp in practice and give up before I ruin someone's night...

..but just in case...Go Pasti!!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 03, 2011, 05:44:24 PM +0100
UKGPL3 is up Colin. It has exited a few times after running a race. Not sure why - it should loop. Up now though. I've just had a go to prove I can do it - PB Good - 1:41 Not do good  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on June 03, 2011, 10:05:38 PM +0100
Bugger. My first race retirement. All my own fault........

After a pile of comedy connection errors (Pro races were not enabled at top of GEM so I was panicking re why I couldn't see the race server..), I made it in. I haven't got the knack of the GTs yet so was glas to set a PB in qually, and given that there was no warp, actually got to look forward to the race!

There was some banging together just out of Druids that made me nervous, but I got round it, then I hit the inside kerb at South Bank and did a 360...and got overtaken by the rest of the field. Red mist chasing them into Hawthorn and I over committed (actually thought I was in a gear lower than it turned out I was...), and I beached it on the outside....

Still, no warp. I can actually look forward to Valentino on Sunday, which is so much easier than Brands.....er...... Oh bugger.... :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 03, 2011, 10:11:34 PM +0100
Well you lasted longer than me mate. I didn't make the first corner. Just got away slowly and wanted to avoid any incidents and drive for some consistent laps. Touched the brakes, car spins a bit, I catch it, and hit one of those effing posts at about 10mph. End of Race. F@!* Grrr. Stupid PRO settings  >:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Baab on June 03, 2011, 10:27:20 PM +0100
Had an incident with Goran I think, which unfortunately ended both of our races.  Not sure if it was my fault or not. Goran was recovering after what I assume must have been an incident, I overtook on the outside going into that difficult long turn under the bridge (name?), I turned in then moments later we collided.  I had a quick look at the replay and I seemed to be entirely past before turning in and braking ( I also I couldn't see you anymore when driving). I did turn in and start braking though...it is possible I should have tried to stay wider.  See what the mods say I suppose.  For my part, sorry it ended our races.

Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: norbert on June 03, 2011, 10:31:01 PM +0100
Yeah guys pro is just fine, ensures me an early bedtime ;D
At least i lasted 13 laps this time ::)
Quite a record.
Sorry Raoni for taken you out :-\
The car just did what it wanted.
Actually it's quite often doing that. ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 03, 2011, 10:35:24 PM +0100
...under the bridge (name?)

"Bloody Hard Bridge Corner" I think Bob... actually it is "South Bank Bend" but I like my name better  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: blito on June 03, 2011, 10:45:25 PM +0100
and another early bath from me...
I was actually having a fairly good "fun" race with Geoff... we waited for each other to catch up after our various "moments".. but unfortunately it came to an end with a slight warp contact that put Geoffs Porka on its roof :( Sorry m8...
With 13 to go i decided enough was enough and parked up and hit esc, even though my car was in perfect order... we were 30 mins late getting the server going and i'm just too knackered for this tonight.
Somehow despite the hype im finding the Porsche cup, well, a bit crap TBH  ::)
Maybe We've just done too much Brands in a short space, I dont know....



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 04, 2011, 12:07:03 AM +0100
I'm sick of it - overdose of Silverstone next...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Geoff65 on June 04, 2011, 12:32:05 AM +0100
Inconsistent rubbish, couldn't get any rythm going at all throughout....and richly deserved getting punted off. No hard feelings Jason, if I'd driven it properly......you'd probably not got close enough there to hit me. Silly little mistakes that were absent through all the practice and Qually. Need to buy some concentration somewhere.
Anyway, bad luck I was the sole Clark Hill competitor, server was quite sparse all up for competitors. Congrats to the podium chaps. Now on to..........somewhere else apart from Brands..........:)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: G Jonsson on June 04, 2011, 12:35:03 AM +0100
Had an incident with Goran I think, which unfortunately ended both of our races.  Not sure if it was my fault or not. Goran was recovering after what I assume must have been an incident, I overtook on the outside going into that difficult long turn under the bridge (name?), I turned in then moments later we collided.  I had a quick look at the replay and I seemed to be entirely past before turning in and braking ( I also I couldn't see you anymore when driving). I did turn in and start braking though...it is possible I should have tried to stay wider.  See what the mods say I suppose.  For my part, sorry it ended our races.

Bob.

Yes I am sorry too and had a quick look too and it all started with Fulvio spinning in front of me in T1 so you came close to me and then when we went side by side I guess that we both just did not want the other to be in front so ........ well I had the inside line and I think I kept it and you were not enough in front to turn in but at the same time if I had been wise I would have lifted off a bit so for me it was a racing incident.

As a whole the race was pretty rubbish for me, it started in L1 T2 when I got bumped when I tried to avoid the one in front of me that had a little moment. I lost 2 places but got running again following the one that had bumped me and Fulvio. I was quicker but did not find a way pass so I was stuck and then Fulvio (I think) had the spin in T1 and then the incident with Bob and it was over.

The good thing about the race was that Pedro kept it together and took a fine 3Rd, and that we managed to stay in 3Rd in the championship.

Btw, I am "sorry" to say that one of the Silverstone races to come, the Porsche race on Jun 17 I will not make because I am going to an Eagle concert. So have fun.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on June 04, 2011, 03:26:46 AM +0100
... it started in L1 T2 when I got bumped when I tried to avoid the one in front of me that had a little moment. I lost 2 places but got running again following the one that had bumped me and Fulvio.

Sorry Göran that was me! :oops:
It was warp contact! In replay you can see I didn't touch you.

My race was long and a little boring after all my contrahents had gone. My setup was a little too conservative to keep in touch with Pedro.
The good thing is I finished without making any big mistake.

The Porsche International Team collected some great points thanx Juha and Ray!

Axel







Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 04, 2011, 03:33:27 AM +0100
... it started in L1 T2 when I got bumped when I tried to avoid the one in front of me that had a little moment. I lost 2 places but got running again following the one that had bumped me and Fulvio.

Sorry Göran that was me! :oops:
It was warp contact! In replay you can see I didn't touch you.


Not sure if you're aware, Axel, but warp contact does not lift you up from responsibility. You have to account for any possible warp by leaving more room than the car's occupied space.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on June 04, 2011, 03:51:40 AM +0100
If I woudn't have dived in the inside of the corner, I would have bumped in the rear!
I had Fulvio in my back too...
We call this a "Domino Effekt"

Thanx Hristo for this consideration, but how big must be the gap?
In replay there are about 50cm room between the cars. Best seen in Fulvios POV  ;)
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 04, 2011, 08:22:29 AM +0100
Despite another blown engine, mistaken downshift on my part I think, Team Porsche International picked up another three figure haul of points. My fall to 6th was Axels gain in 4th and Juha drove another excellent race for 2nd. After my demise and that of many others, I stayed to watch the duel at the front between Tom and Juha as they battled for the win, well done Tom. Grats to Pedro as well on 3rd spot. Great series, see you all at Silverstone.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: francesco on June 04, 2011, 09:31:14 AM +0100
I was in 4th position at lap 8(if i remeber)but unfortunately an accident with Vix have sent my car on the hedge.Impossible to restart.The problem is always the same,Vix try to overtake me inside a curve but due to the lack of the side view ,for me Vix was again behind.....and crash.
My 4th position was due to an accident between Vix and someother in the precending lap otherwise my natural position  is 6th.My disappointment is to not have finished the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 04, 2011, 10:42:03 AM +0100
If I woudn't have dived in the inside of the corner, I would have bumped in the rear!
I had Fulvio in my back too...
We call this a "Domino Effekt"

Thanx Hristo for this consideration, but how big must be the gap?
In replay there are about 50cm room between the cars. Best seen in Fulvios POV  ;)
 

The bigger the warp, the bigger the gap you have to leave. You sort of get the feeling for it with time, by observing how much to the side a car is warping.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: andrwe on June 04, 2011, 11:54:21 AM +0100
fun race yesterday at Brands
after a few laps I found myself in front of Nathan and vix behind my teammate Sergio Nathan vix .. I can go inside the t4 but behind the second half of the race after touching .. I Nathan recovers and no place to go then .. decides to pass within the mandate for lawns in t4 .. .. I'm not very happy about this .. for me are overtaking unsportsmanlike >:(
Luckily I take the track and out 4 but that anger

congratulations to everyone for your organization!
is a really good championship ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on June 04, 2011, 12:38:38 PM +0100
The bigger the warp, the bigger the gap you have to leave. You sort of get the feeling for it with time, by observing how much to the side a car is warping.

From what depends warping? I have never made this experience before...
Had lots of close fun racing in different classes with wild sweeping Martin but I can't remember warp contact.

Is it the server or the track or my connection?

How can I see there is warp?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: maddog on June 04, 2011, 12:38:46 PM +0100
. . .with wild sweeping Martin . . .

I've decided I can't sweep Cookie under the carpet.  Rather an orderly race start from where I sat.  Except I screamed the motor off the line, and it would come back to bite me later.

My main concern would become the object buzzing in my mirrors.  It came closer for a bit, and then further away for a bit, like a pesky Mosquito hunting in the night.  After a bit, I made a mistake - put 2 wheels onto the grass at Clearways, and it bit me!  Geoff came winging through, all the way from Australia.  A lap later, and I learned he'd learned from my mistake, with a good imitation at Druids.

Thereafter, my race became a lonely one, and I was left in peace to perform a high speed cruise to the finish.  Until, with a few laps left, "Bang !" . . . the piece was broken.  And you know what they say - "Once bitten, twice cry."  "Whaahh !"  :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: fpolicardi on June 04, 2011, 05:37:58 PM +0100
Sorry Goran for spinning in front of you, we were having a great race till there with Axel.
Axel had a little uncertainty at T1 near the inside curb and I follow him like a shadow touching the curb and a polo that made me spin. After that my engine lost power and eventually blew a couple of laps later :(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: jhalli on June 04, 2011, 08:31:00 PM +0100
good racing with Tommie and he was racing good race. I was believing i could take the first place during the race but Tommie was still ahead. :laugh: 
I was able to overtake him once when he have little offroad ,  was leading few laps but he gain the cap very soon when i have no consentration on driving .

Few mistakes for both of us but his nerves (nerves of steel) was better and won the Brands cup. 

grats Tommie!  ;D


Silverstone sounds totally different track


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Pedro vd Berg on June 05, 2011, 01:08:11 PM +0100
A lonesome race for me.
At the start is was  tricky with Ronnie going side by side into T1.
Next lap Ronnie gone wide in T2 and I could pass.
After that ..........everybody disappeared around me  :o.

I am very happy with 3e place, also for the team.

Thanks for racing and organising.
Greetings Pedro.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: francesco on June 05, 2011, 03:15:40 PM +0100
Where is possble to find the replay of this race?If i go onto replay i have a message: impossible to find the site.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: vosblod on June 05, 2011, 03:29:44 PM +0100
Where is possble to find the replay of this race?If i go onto replay i have a message: impossible to find the site.
The link at UKGPL.com works OK for me. Anyway replays are here; http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: clouds on June 05, 2011, 03:40:07 PM +0100
Hi guys.

Qualify: I was a little under my possibilities shown during the week tests, but I know the race is another thing! Anyway I'm 4th on the start grid and those in front of me seems to be good pilots (oops very good pilots ;) ) so I figure out a nice race.

Race: In fact what I thought has been correct, suddenly I start loosing a few meters from the 3 in front of me but in 2 or 3 laps I close the gap followed by my teammate Andrea who has his problems to controll who follow him. In front of me I have Hristo, Evil and Natan. Almost at the finish line of 4th lap, Natan in front of me, took the last curve with external line leaving me the room to attack him with an internal line. So I've tried to overtake him. Obviously I knew he was beside me and, to avoid any contact during the overtake, I managed to maintain my course almost over the inner track limit line, but at a certain point and without to perceive any contact, I've seen in the back mirror a car going to hit the external curve barriers. I'm sorry for that but checking the replay (when I still was on the server but out of race), it seems that Natan steers to close the curve maybe because he doesn't have exact perception of my position. Anyway in the following 2 laps, I'll reduce the gap from Evil and at final I'll overtake him getting the 2nd place just behind Hristo. At T5R, I was in 5th gear along the stright and instead to downshift 4, 3, I only have downshifted to 4 and then to 3. The action has been too slow. Because of this wrong action, the car made a spin out. So Natan and Andrea have overtaken me. In a few laps, I was close to Andrea again and while Andrea were overtaking Natan during T4L, Natan left the door open for me too and...following Andrea I've made the same thing remaining also this time close to the inner track limit line. Once again Natan has steered to close the curve while I was beside him and so hitting my back and sending both on the external grass. He recovered almost imediately back to track and I've made the same thing following him. While I was closing again to Natan, the next lap during the acceleration exiting from T4L for the faster part of the track, my engine exploded and... AMEN !

This is my point of view obviously and I've not still taken a look to the replay file saved by the server, it is just what I remember.

Bye.

P.S.: @Francesco, the "someother in the preceding lap" you said before was I!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 05, 2011, 10:55:46 PM +0100
Wonder if any novices out there want to replace me in the series - is that allowed. I am getting so much grief I am not actually able to enjoy it :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 05, 2011, 10:57:25 PM +0100
Wonder if any novices out there want to replace me in the series - is that allowed. I am getting so much grief I am not actually able to enjoy it :(

Grief? What do you mean?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 05, 2011, 11:42:47 PM +0100
Sorry should have made it clear - my wife sees this as something childish and has an amazing facility to drain the enjoyment out of it...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 06, 2011, 12:41:32 AM +0100
Childish? Let her attempt to drive one of these... tell her that killing the kid inside is the quickest path to old age.  ;)

In any case, tell her that if you stop, SHE won't be pleased!!!  >:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 06, 2011, 01:47:57 AM +0100
Lol


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on June 06, 2011, 08:32:29 AM +0100
Paul
I think it would be a great loss for the series if you were not here!
I enjoy your presence and your enthusiasm to make big steps forward.

I was married for 30years and allways had to fight for my right to have my hobby (RC-cars).
It was an island for me where all the daily hassle was forgotten and I could charge my batteries.
The only racing event in 20 years my wife accompanied me was one of my first victories, and she was so enthusiastic then.
Later I often had to remind her of this!
Hey you have the luck of a son who  admires you and is an upcoming GPLer.
I had allways whished that one of my sons would replace me one day, but it didn't happen...

Cheers
Axel



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: clouds on June 06, 2011, 10:27:35 AM +0100
Uhm...it seems stories are reapeating over and over again. I was married too but for 13 years and one of the reasons I've lost my family is due to the hours I've dedicated to flight combat simulators (in particular to Aces High and IL-2). I don't drink at all, I don't smoke at all, I don't look for women (maybe my greatest mistake ;) ), I was looking for other jobs during summer vacations...but it didn't seems to be very important to my ex-wife, she absolutely didn't like and didn't want I was fiddle like a child with simulators and effectively I've lost too many hours playing on my PC.
Now, what I can say directly from my personal experience is...which is the most important thing for you Paul, to be happy with your wife and your family or...to be happy with your hobby thinking both things seems they cannot be made at the same time ?
If you have an answer to this question, it will point you in the right direction.
Sons and daughters make always what they want, no matter if father is Einstein or a postman (and...I'm sorry for the postman  ;) )
I think you'll take the right direction, thinking that, after all...this is only a game!

Nice to met you Paul and welcome to the fabulous world of the married simmers.  :P  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 06, 2011, 10:39:56 AM +0100
Thanks for the support chaps. I just cannot get the time for practice without huge amounts of nagging and it is wearing. The problem is that I cannot do justice to myself or my team and I REALLY don't want to let anyone down - hence the notices in the Team events only. I will still try and make the Novices and the odd Spec and Historics race. Looks like Joseph (Miniblood) might make more races than me... :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 06, 2011, 10:44:08 AM +0100
The question here is - would your wife listen to you if you argue about something she does which you don't like her doing? And also - why? If it's your spare time, why not spend it any way you want... maybe I'm missing something, but it's not something I would call a normal relationship. Anyway, you probably know better for yourself.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Ross Neilson on June 06, 2011, 10:54:13 AM +0100
Paul,

I had similar issues a while back, and my wife and I agreed I was spending too much time playing GPL. It is important to strike a balance after all.

Perhaps you're like me, in that you need a lot of practice in order to be ready to race. If that is the case, I suggest you devote yourself to just one series rather than trying to do too much. That way when you do race, you'll be ready and able to get a good result.

I admire the other guys who can race all mods to a high standard but I'm not able to do that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 06, 2011, 11:12:50 AM +0100
Very good point, Ross. Until you feel confident and gain a lot of experience, know a lot of tracks and cars, have a lot of setups and don't really need to practice except when learning a new track, then it will be a lot more productive if you narrow down your focus instead of spreading your efforts thin. For a beginner, I would suggest Novices, as the cars are the easiest to drive on the limit and at the same time the races are very closely fought out.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 06, 2011, 12:07:49 PM +0100
The problem is the timing really. 9pm is right on the kids bedtime so we hurry the kids to bed and then we have some time to ourselves after a hard day... "Sorry dear, got a race". You can see the problem...

I think it is the volume she objects to. Friday nights and Sundays are difficult because of the kids. Tuesdays are much easier. So I am looking to compromise and cut down on the number of series I participate in so that I can do better in the ones I do do. Last night was a good example. I had only had half an hour to practice at Valentino and qually was a nightmare. Just not enough time and it was embarrassingly bad so I bailed rather than ruin anyone's race. We had just come back from a party so my wife was a bit hacked off that she was left to get the kids to bed... fair enough really.

I enjoy the team series (even if I have contributed virtually nothing) but if I can't practice I don't want to take a seat that somebody else might make good use of and enjoy properly. If nobody comes forward I will fulfil the committments I made but it is not ideal. With hindsight I have taken on too much and my wife makes no distinction between the driving, practice and back-room stuff like reports, race imports and modding reviews. Its all 'time out'.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: miner2049er on June 06, 2011, 12:22:39 PM +0100
One of the reasons I only ever do 1 division per season is that I have 3 kids and they either have clubs to take them to or pick them up from, or it is time to take them to bed, so Sundays and Tuesdays are the only nights I can almost guarantee to be free and able to race.

I could maybe do a couple of divisions per season but would have less practise for both so I choose to concentrate on 1 and spend the other nights telling my wife how wonderful she is LOL.

When the kids are grown up I may be able to do more but by then I'll no doubt have something else to fill my spare time like playing on the pinball machine I still haven't got working.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: vosblod on June 06, 2011, 12:53:24 PM +0100
If nobody comes forward I will fulfil the committments I made but it is not ideal.
Paul, I wouldn't feel too obliged to fulfil commitments, find a balance as you have said. I find it hard to fit in the time needed for practice for all the races and my form has suffered accordingly. I'm concentrating on a couple of series and signed part-time for the others so I can dip in.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: EvilClive on June 06, 2011, 01:00:25 PM +0100
Firstly Paul...GPL is only a game ( stands back and covers face as bricks and missiles are thrown!)

Secondly.... whatever you do you are not letting anybody down, we all do this for our own amusement not to take over the world ( unless of course you are a Waza)

Thirdly..... it is you who has to live with your family and that must come before a computer game.

Sure, you can argue that you are entitled to some "me" time, but kids and wives don't run to a strict timetable. I guess I am lucky in that my kids have grown and left the nest several years ago ( that does not mean that they cease to be a drain on finances though!) and there is just myself and my wife in the house.
We have an arrangement where she can watch whatever she wants on the TV whilst I am racing and as we rarely want to watch the same type of programmes that works out well. I find the total immersion in a GPL race a great stress outlet from running a business in the current economic climate.

My computer is in the ( now ) spare bedroom so that I can have the surround sound on at a reasonable level and not disturb her. Plus, as Hristo said, I have been doing this long enough to have a library of good ( OK lets call them "usable"!!) setups and the experience to need little practice at most tracks. For Valentino I had memorised the track in about 5-6 laps and a couple of 20 minute sessions on the practice server to find the optimum racing line and gears etc.

You did kind of throw yourself into GPL and volunteer for all sorts of "extra" duties Paul. Perhaps not realising how much time they would actually take up  ;) in your real life. Better perhaps that you do a lot less but are able to give the time easily to do one or two things rather than feel under pressure from all sides and doing far too much  ;).
I hope you continue to race with us and enjoy GPL, but take a good look at what you are currently doing and identify those things that you want to continue with and set the rest aside in the interests of domestic peace.
No-one has the right to criticise you for doing what you consider is right for you and your family so get the balance right for your own peace of mind.  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 06, 2011, 01:19:54 PM +0100
No-one has the right to criticise you for doing what you consider is right for you and your family so get the balance right for your own peace of mind.  

Except for HER, but maybe SHE'll show some understanding!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Tom van Ostade on June 06, 2011, 01:54:23 PM +0100
At the end of the day, family and friends are more important than any game (even GPL ;) ). That's all there is to say, really :) .

Tom.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 06, 2011, 02:21:05 PM +0100
That's the thing though, isn't it? We're not here because of GPL, we're not playing it in Singleplayer mode. We're here for the social side of things, to race with real people and to communicate with them. So it's not as simple as you present it to be.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 06, 2011, 02:40:14 PM +0100
LOL - You have all cheered me up mightily...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 06, 2011, 07:03:25 PM +0100
It would seem strange to me Paul if you were not on track at the events we contest together. So I hope you can reach a suitable comprimise. On the subject of not being at the sharp end we have talked before. As long as people are having fun who cares. See you at Silverstone in the 66's on Tuesday, I hope.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: blito on June 06, 2011, 09:17:23 PM +0100
I kind of agree with Hristo here - UKGPL is as much about its people as it is the game! Yes its a great game but its the active forums and great after-race chat that makes it so special... I view this as a hobby, with a good social aspect and a healthy dose of competition and I balance my love of UKGPL with the other love of my life. My fiancee and my children always come first for me, but 9pm-11pm 3 times a week I lose myself in my hobby and I bloody love it!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 06, 2011, 09:54:40 PM +0100
It would seem strange to me Paul if you were not on track at the events we contest together. So I hope you can reach a suitable comprimise. On the subject of not being at the sharp end we have talked before. As long as people are having fun who cares. See you at Silverstone in the 66's on Tuesday, I hope.

I see you didn't say 'where we race' lol.

Hope to be there too. Touch and go though.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: miner2049er on June 07, 2011, 07:02:50 PM +0100
Sorry Göran that was me! :oops:
It was warp contact! In replay you can see I didn't touch you.

No incident reports for this race which is good if you can settle it like gentlemen it makes my life easier, but as this was a lap 1 incident it will be moderated anyway, and if the server shows contact then you could end up with a penalty.

I would recommend you submit a clip from your replay with an incident report.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: clouds on June 09, 2011, 08:52:50 AM +0100
I have 2 or 3 clips to send you, just to know how I must behave next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: miner2049er on June 20, 2011, 10:12:43 PM +0100
Race mod published.

Sorry for the delay.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: Cookie on June 21, 2011, 10:02:26 AM +0100
So again:

Sorry Göran! The warp is no excuse.

For the start: Sorry Arf!

As a freshman in this busines it seems I have to learn a lot more than faster driving....  ::)
I will never ever again take Jason Plato as a guide for my driving!

Cheers








Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: BadBlood on June 21, 2011, 12:17:52 PM +0100
I have 2 or 3 clips to send you, just to know how I must behave next time.

Hope the mod makes it clear Sergio?

Funny how things work out. I profit from Sergio's demotion and get 17 points even though I didn't actually manage to make the first corner at Brands. Compare that to the last race at Silverstone, where I was pleased with my performanec and drove my nuts off to score.... 17 points :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 3
Post by: clouds on June 22, 2011, 08:50:18 AM +0100
Yes all clear m8, very ambitious overtake it explains all by itself! I'll try to do the right things next time, thank you!  ;)