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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 20, 2011, 08:09:36 PM +0100
Round 5 and into the southern hemisphere. Another track we know well. Kyalami in sunny South Africa.
This track with its long straight and winding corners will offer something different for all the cars and braking for T1 with some of the heavier tanks will be a challenge.

You all know the difficulties with the poor rear view in these cars so please be aware that the car in front maybe cannot see you and does not know you are there. Particularly on the first racing lap! The use of the "virtual mirror" may not be exactly historically accurate but it makesthings a lot safer..it is your choice.

*** NOTE***
Ensure that you have the pit wall in place. Those without the pit wall will risk disqualification. Advantage can be gained without it and in particular, drivers should ensure that they know where the pit entry is WITH THE PIT WALL IN PLACE

The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will risk disqualification.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.


HAVING THE PIT WALL IN PLACE DOES MAKE THE PIT ENTRY A REAL CHALLENGE IN THE GT CARS. SOME DRIVERS WILL NEED TO MAKE PITSTOPS DURING THE RACE AND WILL BE SLOW ON THE APPROACH TO THE PIT ENTRY. PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR SLOW CARS AT THE KINK ON THE S/F STRAIGHT.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Sunday June 26th
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Kyalami [Papy original track]
Race length = approx 50 minutes (34 laps)
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Intermediate (see rules below re resets)
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=307;theme=6)

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

RED TEAM          HRISTO ITCHOV,  Evilclive, Paul Badblood  
 Chap 2F / Mirage / Porsche
                                                                
BLUE TEAM        SAMB, Fulvio, Happy Al  
Chap 2F/ Lola/ Mirage

GREEN TEAM     ZACHARIA BLITO, Phil Thornton, Axel Cookie
Chapp 2F/ Ferrari P4 / Mirage

ORANGE TEAM        NIGEL SMITH, Tim FMG,Dave RAndall  
Ferrari P4 / Chapp 2D / Ford GT MK2.

GREY TEAM     Captained by Tim Vosblod who is looking after the part time drivers who cannot be sure to attend every race.

The cars for the Grey team for this season will be
Chapperal 2D
Mirage
Ford GT40 MK1

a NEW pink team HAS BEEN FORMED TO ACCOMODATE A FEW MORE OF THE TEMPORARY DRIVERS IN THIS SERIES

The Cars for the Pink Team are
Ferrari
Mk2 GT40
Porsche


All drivers must drive all 3 team cars at least 3 times. At the end of the 10 race championship any TEAM found to be in breach of this rule will have its BEST TEAM points result of the season cancelled. Each driver will drop his worst 2 results, in line with the other championships, this gets over the problem of missed races and 2 man teams looking for a sub at the last minute.

The events will be run on Intermediate damage and allow ONE Shift-R with a compulsory 10 second pit stop regardless of fault. (This means 10 seconds in your pitbox without moving). Any driver who fails to take a 10 second stop within 1 lap after a Shift-R, will be disqualified from the results. For this division the full moderation of lap one now applying across all divisions will include both the warm up lap and lap one proper.

Please check the Season 21 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=301&theme=6) regarding rules and the GT Team Challenge pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=307&theme=6) in particular.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: blito on June 25, 2011, 12:40:42 PM +0100
RE - the pit wall --

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND ?????

The pit lane entry is LETHAL at Kyalami... last season in the Novs, there was at least one crash caused by a racer having to lift right after the kink in order to make the pit entry.. Its even harder to make in the GT`s!!!  There will be accidents! There will be tears!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 25, 2011, 01:13:40 PM +0100
It's the same for everyone, Jason. It's up to the driver to slow down before entering the pit lane. Not to mention not everyone has the non-pitwall version installed (Kyalami with a pit wall is GPL's default), so it's unfair to them if others are allowed to use the patched version. As long as you indicate you're about to slow down just before the last corner and keep to the inside, perhaps half on the curb/grass there, it's not so bad.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 25, 2011, 01:57:09 PM +0100
Pit stops are also not actually mandatory ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 25, 2011, 04:56:36 PM +0100
You will only need to make a pitstop if you mistreat your car or get"involved" with someone else............so any visits to the pits will be under your control....ish lol.

But seriously, as Hristo points out, it will be the same for everyone and I have added a note to the announcement above to be aware cars entering the pits during the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 26, 2011, 07:20:16 PM +0100
21:00 UK time isn't 21:00 GMT   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 26, 2011, 07:54:23 PM +0100
GMT = GPL Meetup Time....  :D

Thanks for pointing that out though Clive. That is a minor error in light of what nearly went through...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 26, 2011, 08:59:13 PM +0100
GMT = GPL Meetup Time....  :D

Thanks for pointing that out though Clive. That is a minor error in light of what nearly went through...

LOL  np


What's the pecking order for these 'orible things.

Just tried the Ferrari at Kyalami fun race and it wanted to reverse into all the corners.

Haven't found one I like yet.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: maddog on June 26, 2011, 09:39:32 PM +0100
The pit lane entry is LETHAL at Kyalami... last season in the Novs, there was at least one crash caused by a racer having to lift right after the kink in order to make the pit entry.. Its even harder to make in the GT`s!!!  There will be accidents! There will be tears!

Bit late off the mark on this,  but seems to me, there were no maximum pit lane speed limits, back in '67.  So, to reduce risk of main straight carnage, a minimum entry speed of 80mph would be good.  Sort out the men, from the dearly departed!    :angel: :angel: :angel:   Mandatory for the rolling lap?  I'm wearing my helmet, so no point throwing things! :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Cookie on June 26, 2011, 10:28:50 PM +0100
Short race after  Quali...

Had Freeze on grid...
Tried to rejoin to race but was not possible.

Sorry Team Green :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: blito on June 26, 2011, 10:48:37 PM +0100
Bad luck there Axel...

Clive - I find all the GTs are hard to drive, you kinda have to gently guide them around a bit. I do find however that the Porka loves a good ragging :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 26, 2011, 11:00:20 PM +0100
Sideways and smooth Clive  ;D
And if it has a honking great V8 then use the torque instead of ragging it everywhere!
There's alot to be said for getting shot of the default setup mind!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: b_1_rd on June 26, 2011, 11:11:13 PM +0100
Should have done much better than that.  Once I start believing I can actually drive at a semi-reasonable pace I might actually get a decent finish!

Sorry to Jase for ramming his car when I totally missed my brake point.  Luckily it flipped 360 with apparently no damage!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: blito on June 26, 2011, 11:13:32 PM +0100
and the race according to Blito....
Fairly pleased to have made it to the grid tonight after some last minute pedal issues - I had inadvertantly switched the wheel to PS3 mode which scrambles its PC controller settings... Lucky its only a few minutes to reinstall the controller!
So... my 10th place grid slot immediately began 9th when Axel had his CTD... Settled into a nice rythm following Uncle Phil's Ferrari..  9th became 8th when Steve had an off-road excursion... then became 9th again when he rear-ended me hard at .. ummm. wassname corner.. you know, the real tight left hander!
My car rolled over but landed on its wheels and amazaingly wasnt damaged! The next few laps Steve and I battled, swapping places twice but eventually I managed to drop him and set off after Phil.
8th became 7th when I eventually caught Phil and made an easy pass thanks to the back marker who briefly held him up - not deliberately but enough for me to get close enough to make a pass 4 corners later :)
And that,more or less, was that.... a fairly comfy drive in the 2F to a satisfying 7th place .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 26, 2011, 11:14:59 PM +0100
Well enjoyed that and felt I held up the honour of the Reds against the Blues. Al and I were very evenly matched but he just had SO much extra speed down the long straight. I led him for a while though. I got a bit enthusiastic and tapped him from behind when approaching said long straight, felt the only thing to do was wait for him. May have cost me a place... I was only 4 secs behind at the end. Didn't stop me knocking him off again though... :( Sorry, Al. Fun racing though. Hope he enjoyed it as much as I did. Apart from that had a cracking time trying to hold Dave Randall off (pointless though it was really) - think I blocked him off a bit - I may have to report myself. And finally, apologies to Geoff, each time he caught me I was in a full on battle of my own but I did try to leave you room, mate ;) honest! Sorry if I cost you anything.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Samb on June 27, 2011, 10:32:39 AM +0100
Goodness that was hard work! Until about lap 30, I was driving a pretty good race. I was hanging on for dear life with Clive and H, who were having a terrific battle up front. I made a slight error a few laps in and lost about 5 seconds to the leading pair. I took me about half the race to close the gap, but as the fuel loads began to lighten, Clive and H began to match my pace, making overtaking very difficult indeed.

I noticed the Lola was a little down on power on the straight, but that could also be a result of my short shifting throughout the race. Eventually H had an off moment; Clive zipped through and I only just managed to gain a position, with me and H side by side for a few corners. That promoted me to second, but I couldn't really catch Clive. I could only match his pace. With about 10 to go, I had a poor exit out of Leeukop bend and H pounced, out braking me into Crowthorne corner. Maybe I was feeling fatigued after that or H and Clive sped up as I noticed I was losing ground to them up ahead. A spin with 5 laps to go cemented my 3rd place. I drove rather dishearteningly after that, with another spin to finish on the last step of the podium. Seems I have a taste for 3rd places of late. Congrats to Clive and H for the terrific drives up front.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: happyal on June 27, 2011, 10:37:41 AM +0100
I didn’t do too well last night at Kyalami, I just couldn’t get into the groove. I really should have been quicker.

Qualifying was a bust for me, I tried a flying lap but I was all over the place, I pretty much abandoned qualifying straight away and tried to get a car that I could drive for 34 laps. I was having problems braking for turn 1, and also the rear end snapping on me. I never really did solve these problems, it was much worse on the game server, off line the car was much better, I noticed that my fps was dropping a bit on the server, so it must have been that. I think it’s time to upgrade my graphics card.

I started slowly, and tried to keep the car on the road. I was surprised to see I could keep up with Paul Badblood. After a few laps I decided to see if I could catch him, I was happy to get a good drive off the last corner and my Mirage was much faster on the straight so I got past fine. Geoff was only a little ahead at this point, so I decided to see if I could catch him. I could, but only if I tried really hard, and of course that meant I spun the car.

After a few more spins, I was dead last. Prib said I was over 1.5KM behind Paul at this point and not going very fast. With about 20 laps to go I just tried to keep the car on the road and finish. I tried to stay out of the way of people lapping me. Sorry to my Blue teammate Sam as you surprised me when you lapped me, I jumped out of the way when I saw you so I hope I didn’t cost you any time.

For some reason Paul started to fall back towards me. I still didn’t hold out much hope to pass him as he could still lap faster than me. I think he must have had some problems as suddenly I was right behind him. He couldn’t really defend on the straight so I got past him again. With only 3 laps to go I knew I could stay ahead if I got a good drive off the last corner. So I was careful around the track and just kept my place too the line. It was a nice surprise to find myself with another driver, and I did enjoy racing with you again Paul.

Overall I’m disappointed with my pace. I should off been able to run faster, and with be more consentience. I’m happy to get a few points for the team, but I do hope to be closer to the midfield next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: blito on June 27, 2011, 12:20:12 PM +0100


Overall I’m disappointed with my pace. I should off been able to run faster, and with be more consentience. I’m happy to get a few points for the team, but I do hope to be closer to the midfield next time.



Problem is, Al, is that the midfield is gettign quicker as people such as Geoff and myself get better used to the GT cars.....  It would be nice to see some stats but back me up but I feel that in our early GT races the field was much more spread out than it has been in these last few...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 27, 2011, 12:48:26 PM +0100
That was a very tough race! I thought I could challenge Evil for pole until he probably went low on fuel in the last minutes of the session and improved by nearly half a second, but at least I just managed to pip Sam for 2nd on the grid.

I dropped a bit of time at the start as I didn't expect Evil to accelerate before the last corner  ;D , but then managed to close up a bit with the aid of slipstream. The gap stabilized at about 1 second for maybe 2 laps, then Evil decided to lift up and let me through for his own reasons. Once ahead, it was clear that I was at least half a second slower, but Evil refused to pass me and was just lifting up a couple of times per lap to stay behind. At the same time he was really close in corners and sometimes I even thought he might hit me on corner entry as he (typically) braked later. I must say I was not happy about all that, because it allowed Sam to catch up and if Evil was leading instead, we would've managed to pull away with his speed and myself benefiting from the slipstream.

Anyway, I tried to go as fast as possible, but the Mirage was a bit of a handful on more fuel and I couldn't really carry a lot of speed through corners. There were some issues with backmarkers - one choose to slow down right on the ideal line on the top of the s/f straight, another kept going off the line but not lifting up much, so with Evil glued on my back, it was a close call.

I noticed Sam closing up as we entered the final 1/3rd of the race, and with double pressure from both Evil (who had finally decided to speed up at this point as he had to defend himself) and Sam, I had to take bigger risks. Braking for T1 was always a problem and unless I kept modulating the braking pedal, the car wouldn't stop efficiently. Eventually I failed to do it properly and went wide into the grass there at T1, but didn't lose too much time, just dropped to 3rd.

I thought I had nothing to lose at this point, so I started experimenting with handling the car, and found a way to throw it into corners sideways and then balance on the throttle to exit the corner in a drift, and surprisingly it could carry a lot of speed that way and be consistent, as long as I didn't make a mistake. This little change in driving style gave me some additional pace and with the help of slipstream from Sam's car, I managed to close up within 3 laps and make a move on him going into T1.

Evil was a different story though, as he was some 2 seconds up ahead and I needed more laps to close in and I wasn't even sure he doesn't have more speed in reserve. Maybe he didn't, because I kept reducing the gap at a consistent pace and was soon benefiting from the slipstream of his 2F. There were 3 or 4 laps to go at this moment, so I started attacking as soon as I got close, but Evil was defending well by taking different lines, even though I'm not quite happy with how that went on in certain moments. One particular such moment he decided to move to the middle of the road and I was caught up by it and dropped a full second or something, which decided the outcome of the race. I managed to close up again in the last 2 laps, but it wasn't enough.

Top result for the team though and grats to Evil for having such a great pace, but I think he could've won without all those games early on and in the final few laps, his 2F was just fast enough on the straight to make a move whenever he wanted to. Grats to Sam for adding to the excitement as well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Nigel Smith on June 27, 2011, 04:35:24 PM +0100
     Looks like I missed a good 'un here.
Apologies to my teamies, Tim and Dave, I've been away for a few days at weekends and this weekend not only was I back late, I came back to a PC that won't boot :(
 So, that looks like my season has come to an end unless the Pc  fairy arrives unexpectedly.
 Good luck to you all.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: jhalli on June 27, 2011, 07:54:35 PM +0100
good race after all , i make too much small mistakes and dropped from Hristo,Evil,Sam train. I use qualifying setup for the race was mistake too lol, i couldnt make consistent laps at all,better luck next time.  Good battles with Fulvio and Tim   , grats Evil for GT race victory.



Juha


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Dave Randall on June 27, 2011, 10:36:15 PM +0100
Well that was an embarrassing performance from me.  Hadn't had much time for practice and have just got a new G27 wheel, so using FF for first time ever a couple of days before race.  Having said that I don't actually feel either is a legitimate excuse to drive like that, the only saving grace being I kept out of harms way!  Started off steadily enough and was holding 11th position comfortably until the unstressed engine blew.  After resetting and pitting it went from bad to worse as I seemed to forget how to drive!  Had some ridiculous offs, and started being lapped after one of these so stayed off track as the first wave came through.  Managed to pull myself together a bit towards the end, and lap in the 24's to knock one and half seconds off qually time and eventually take a position back off of Badblood, which provided one positive to take away.

Well done to Clive and podium, looks like the Reds are walking away with it now!

Bad news that Orange have possibly lost a driver unless Nigel can bring his pc back to life.  Good luck with that Nige, we need you!  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 27, 2011, 10:58:24 PM +0100
To be honest Dave if you are taking a positive from taking a place back from me then you are definitely in straw clutching mode ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Geoff65 on June 28, 2011, 02:01:40 AM +0100
Didn't expect too much from the Mk1, it was steady and stable but just plain slow. Good race for me.....few mistakes although I did find the lead pack interfering at the worst times.For 3 laps I tried to put a lap on Badblood and/or stay with he and Al to play to the end....as the majority of the race the only company I had was the pitboard. Each time I got close, one or 3 of the lapping cars would appear and the other two would escape up the road further... :laugh: Kept me on the ball to the last lap anyway. And good to get a no problem finish in this class. Had to use the wireless connection for this as Windows had lunched the TCP/IP stack again. And frame rate was pretty bad with so many cars on the server. It was quite difficult to get consistent timing as a consequence. Loaded Win7 last night, and even managed to find Graphics drivers for my old Radeon Xpress 200m that run under Win7....so just in the process of setting up GPL again.....new, fresh install.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 28, 2011, 09:30:11 AM +0100
I meant to say Geoff. On the rolling lap you disappeared off the grid and didn't re-appear until Crowthorne. Quite hard to stay behind you when you aren't there ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 28, 2011, 10:54:24 AM +0100
     Looks like I missed a good 'un here.
Apologies to my teamies, Tim and Dave, I've been away for a few days at weekends and this weekend not only was I back late, I came back to a PC that won't boot :(
 So, that looks like my season has come to an end unless the Pc  fairy arrives unexpectedly.
 Good luck to you all.


Bad news Nigel, I was wondering why you were MIA  :(

Do you recon there's much chance of you rejoining us, or should we appeal to the facist pigs, heartless bas..., Mods, Clive to have a substitute?   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on June 28, 2011, 07:37:35 PM +0100
As Nigel is unable to continue due to domestic computing difficulties, the Orange Team may recruit a driver of similar standing to complete their team.
The new member will have to continue as if he were Nigel and choose his cars accordingly to comply with the "drive each chassis at least 3 times" rule.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 28, 2011, 08:17:46 PM +0100
Cool, cheers Clive.
I'll have a look at our token standing and who's free  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 28, 2011, 09:59:40 PM +0100
.....The next few laps Steve and I battled, swapping places twice but eventually I managed to drop him and set off after Phil.
8th became 7th when I eventually caught Phil and made an easy pass .....
Yes I think both you and Steve were a bit quicker than me but I managed to drive steadily for a change and didn't have an off.  Most unusual for me ;D. 

Didn't mind being passed by my teamie and relieved to have kept Mr Bird at bay :P

Bad luck Axel, we had a chance of some good points for the Greens.  You were the best of us by some margin!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Dave Randall on June 30, 2011, 01:53:54 PM +0100
As Nigel is unable to continue due to domestic computing difficulties, the Orange Team may recruit a driver of similar standing to complete their team.
The new member will have to continue as if he were Nigel and choose his cars accordingly to comply with the "drive each chassis at least 3 times" rule.

How very decent of you, and may I say what a worthy winner you were in that last race!  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 05:09:06 PM +0100
LOL - Creep. You still haven't got many tokens to play with...

Clive probably needs to update the driver list with some token values.

Hopefully Nigel can make a comeback soon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Geoff65 on July 01, 2011, 07:55:08 AM +0100
LOL - Creep. You still haven't got many tokens to play with...

Clive probably needs to update the driver list with some token values.

Hopefully Nigel can make a comeback soon.

Oi!, that's enough of raggin' on my.....temporary teamies. Oh dear!!........I've turned Orange     :eek:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on July 04, 2011, 09:13:16 PM +0100
I may have been a trifle generous in allowing Dave R to team up with FMG and co. Dave's token rating would actually put the Orange Team over budget for the series. But as I have already put my big foot in my cavernous mouth I will only penalise you if any of the Orange Team get a podium finish.   ;D ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 05, 2011, 11:06:36 AM +0100
Why? Have you changed his value or something?

We had 2 or 3 points to spare when we calculated for our chassis at the start!


(Edit - just re-did the numbers and still getting 118?)
Or is this a fiendish Waza plot based on my always having a hot chassis till the finish now :P )


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: EvilClive on July 05, 2011, 11:12:58 AM +0100
If you look at the original Registration Thread, I did have Nigel at 10 tokens and Dave at 20 tokens....and yes! this is probably a sneaky Waza trick to distract you  ;D ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 05, 2011, 11:28:38 AM +0100
Dammit! I'm all confused now!  ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on July 05, 2011, 11:56:00 AM +0100
It may just be that Geoff has a token value higher than 12... that would put you over limits... but you are always wise to suspect a Waza plot ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 05, 2011, 05:59:49 PM +0100
Geoff was 10 tokens last time I looked  ;)

I still suspect Waza's  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on July 06, 2011, 10:34:50 AM +0100
Takes one to know one. When you coming back?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 06, 2011, 10:46:37 AM +0100
Takes one to know one. When you coming back?  ;D

I suppose when he matures enough and satisfies his need to drive green things...  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on July 06, 2011, 12:09:00 PM +0100
Geoff was 10 tokens last time I looked  ;)

Anyway, what have token ratings got to do with it. I am 12 but Clive was clearly pissed when he settled on those values as Happyal and Geoff are both rated behind me  :o

Either that or I got six additional tokens for being the ADM...  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: happyal on July 06, 2011, 01:59:36 PM +0100
Geoff was 10 tokens last time I looked  ;)

Anyway, what have token ratings got to do with it. I am 12 but Clive was clearly pissed when he settled on those values as Happyal and Geoff are both rated behind me  :o

Either that or I got six additional tokens for being the ADM...  ;D

You're worth the extra tokens Paul.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: BadBlood on July 06, 2011, 02:11:25 PM +0100
Hmm. Thanks. Am I reviewing any incidents with you at the mo?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: happyal on July 06, 2011, 03:08:08 PM +0100
Hmm. Thanks. Am I reviewing any incidents with you at the mo?  ;D

LOL. No, just gaining brownie points for the future :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Kyalami - Jun 26
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 06, 2011, 03:44:31 PM +0100
SHE will not be pleased!