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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on June 27, 2011, 10:00:26 PM +0100
UKGPL Season 21 Porsche Super Cup
Race 5 Kyalami

Race 5 takes the Porsche train to the southern hemisphere for an exciting race in South Africa, at Kyalami. First built in 1961 and first raced by F1 in 1966 following a major upgrade.

This is quite a track of 2 halves with the long straight offering some great slipstreaming opportunities which could end in disaster entering the long and slippery T1 at Crowthorne, especially on lap one. There is a large run off area but most drivers that use it do do not manage to find a quicker line than those who stay on the tarmac.

*** NOTE***
Ensure that you have the pit wall in place. Those found to be racing without the pit wall in place will be disqualified, regardless of any advantage gained.

The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.

Please see the Porsche Super Cup registration thread for an explanation of the Team Setups:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.msg166098#msg166098

1 TEAM NAME - Pasti Porsche - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Van Ostade
Driver 2 - Am - Nicky Ickx
Driver 3 - Nov - Norbert

2 TEAM NAME - Porsche International - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Juha Hallikainen
Driver 2 - Nov - Ronniepeterson
Driver 3 - Nov - Axel Cookie

3 TEAM NAME - Clark Hill - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Am - Geoff Heard
Driver 2 - Am - Steve Bird
Driver 3 - Am - Vlad Vosblod
Reserve - Nov - Happy Al

4 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 1 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Hristo
Driver 2 - Nov - Paul
Driver 3 - Nov - Blito

5 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 2 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Evil Clive
Driver 2 - Nov - Nigel Smith
Driver 3 - Nov - Karliss

6 TEAM NAME - Black Knight - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

7 TEAM NAME - Team Coyote - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Raoni Frizzo
Driver 2 - Nov - Jonny'O
Driver 3 - Nov - Du Fossa

8 TEAM NAME - Team 7 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Fulvio Policardi
Driver 2 - Am - Bob Whitwell
Driver 3 - Nov - s2173

9 TEAM NAME - Team GPFun - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Andrea Tendas
Driver 2 - Am - Sergio Lonzar
Driver 3 - Nov - Roberto Baldassarri
Reserve - Am - Gianni Sellitto

10 TEAM NAME - Pastit Porsche - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Am - Phil Thornton
Driver 2 - Am - Natan
Driver 3 - Nov - Francesco

11 TEAM NAME - LOL'Team 1 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Guérout
Driver 2 - Am - Eric Goubinat
Driver 3 - Nov - Maxime Lenclen
Reserve - Eric Daon

12 TEAM NAME - LOL' Team 2 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro Tristan Bot
Driver 2 - Am - Dave Rainier
Driver 3 - Nov - Arf Arf Arf
Reserve - Roberto Vianna

All drivers may join the server immediately but are asked not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Porsche Super Cup Races will be run across 2 Servers, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated and thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER 1
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 01/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 37 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

SERVER 2
Race List = IGOR
Server = GPG_8
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Race date = 01/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 37 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

The Team Championship Standings can be found here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=309&theme=6

GT67 Mod: The GT67 Mod for GPL can be downloaded here:
http://www.sportscarlegends.net/index.html


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on June 27, 2011, 10:03:28 PM +0100
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ THE INFORMATION IN RED ABOVE ABOUT THE PIT WALL.

THOSE SEEN RACING WITHOUT IT WILL BE DISQUALIFIED.

INSTRUCTIONS TO RESTORE IT ARE ABOVE!!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 28, 2011, 12:45:26 AM +0100
Well, I raced without the wall in the GT race, but since I know where it's meant to be, I never crossed over it, so if someone chooses to go with the pit wall, make sure you know where it actually resides, especially when going side by side on the s/f straight, when entering the pitlane and when exiting it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 28, 2011, 10:47:22 AM +0100
Uhm...it seems the race will gets though on server 1.
The stronger the opponents the greater the glory!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 28, 2011, 11:21:33 AM +0100
Tom G on Server 2 is going to have a walk in the park...  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 28, 2011, 12:51:31 PM +0100
Tom G on Server 2 is going to have a walk in the park...  ::)

...hoping at least...it will be raining!!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on June 28, 2011, 01:54:25 PM +0100
To finish first, first you have to finish.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 28, 2011, 01:55:59 PM +0100
To finish first, first you have to finish.

First you have to finish AND beat Tom.  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on June 28, 2011, 03:43:47 PM +0100
this ones gonna be a tough 'un.. anything better than last place will be a bonus to me......


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 28, 2011, 04:00:41 PM +0100
Ok this noon I'll try to adjust the pit wall.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on June 28, 2011, 04:28:02 PM +0100
its easy to add the wall back in - follow step one to put it back in and step 2 to make it visible! (the all-in-one installer removes the pit wall and replaces the image file used for it with grass!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 28, 2011, 08:29:23 PM +0100
its easy to add the wall back in - follow step one to put it back in and step 2 to make it visible! (the all-in-one installer removes the pit wall and replaces the image file used for it with grass!

Indeed it functions!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: G Jonsson on June 29, 2011, 11:40:34 AM +0100
Hi all free drivers,

There is a car vacant in the Black Night Racing team for an am/nov driver at Kyalami. Applications can be posted here.

Göran

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 30, 2011, 10:52:58 AM +0100
The stronger the opponents the more chances you have to...change hobby  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: jhalli on June 30, 2011, 11:40:58 AM +0100
hey clouds i tried to join your server yesterday Kyalami  but never get in.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: tom_g on June 30, 2011, 11:41:14 AM +0100
Hi all ;)

one question : how do you do to assign servers to teams ? quite randomly ?

see you tomorrow !

ToM


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on June 30, 2011, 12:20:25 PM +0100
How do you do to assign servers to teams ? quite randomly ?

Paul (BadBlood) came up with an Excel Spreadsheet containing every team and every race in the season, so at the end of the season every team should have raced against every other team approximately the same number of times.

It isn't exact as it was based on 10 teams so I have added 2 more since then but it is very close.

Some races will be easier than others.

Hopefully as it is a team event with Pro rules and we drop the worst 2 results at the end of the season, it should all even out across the season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Baab on June 30, 2011, 12:30:07 PM +0100
Fulvio, sorry to do this again, but this is another race I won't be able to make, really sorry, I'll be travelling back from a business trip.  Hopefully our reserve can take my place again. 

Kya is one of my favourite circuits so really hoped I'd be able to make it.

Cheers,

Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 02:17:23 PM +0100
About the spreadsheet, I didn't take any account of team strengths or the tracks. The idea was that each team would race with each other team so that the teams got mixed up evenly. Mike has done the hard work of actually sorting out the series.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 30, 2011, 02:31:38 PM +0100
Last time I asked I was told it's a random choice at every race for which team goes to which server.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 30, 2011, 03:03:45 PM +0100
Hi JHalli, what kind of message did u have when u tried to join to my server ?
Did u never join to my server before ?
For sure I made no changes to my router so it is a surprise for me that you have been not able to join !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on June 30, 2011, 03:13:48 PM +0100
Last time I asked I was told it's a random choice at every race for which team goes to which server.

Don't mind Hristo, some times you win some times you loose but...I said some times you win...and damn...I'm waiting my time a little bit toooooo much between this kind of sharks !!!   ;) ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 03:21:59 PM +0100
Last time I asked I was told it's a random choice at every race for which team goes to which server.

Its randomised - that is not the same as random. There is no algorithm as such that decides that in Race X, Team Y will be on Server Z.

The spreadsheet has Team 1 on Server 1 then Server 2 and then Server 1 and so on, the other teams were then allocated race by race and I moved them around until teams met each other at least four times each. It is quite hard to schedule with three parameters. Try it :)

It is almost impossible to ensure each time gets five goes on Server 1 and five goes on Server 2 whilst having a different mix for each race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 30, 2011, 03:51:01 PM +0100
Not sure I'm following you, Paul. You say "randomize" yet you say you strive for matching each team to each other at least once. How does that work exactly? And what I meant by "random choice" was that I thought you simply put all teams together before each race and randomly pull out 1 team at a time and assign it to server 1, then the rest go to server 2. I guess it's not how you do it though.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 04:45:04 PM +0100
It is randomized in the fact that I take no notice of what team is being picked - in fact when I picked them I didn't know what the driver line ups were - but you want Team 1 to face Team 2 and Team 3 and Team and Team 5 and then maybe Team 6 - 10 and then maybe the first four even numbered teams and so on. That gives increasing difficulties making sure that Team 10 isn't always on Server 2.

Not only do you want the teams facing each other the same number of times, you want them swapping servers as well, in case the servers are not the same. You can't just pick them out of a hat because you have to take account of who they have faced and which server they have been on in the past. I'll send you a copy of the original spreadsheet if you are interested but that is an example only because we now have twelve teams.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on June 30, 2011, 04:56:38 PM +0100
LOL Hristo

In german we call this "Kümmelspalterei"  ;D

I believe in Pauls integrity and mathematical skill!  :euro:
(the only thing that could make me a little worried is his being a Waza  >:D )

:chef:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 09:12:52 PM +0100
Thanks Cookie - I do actually have a degree in Mathematics but I can't show a voucher for my integrity... ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 30, 2011, 09:27:01 PM +0100
Since when did this become a question of Paul's integrity? I was simply interested in how it's being done...  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: maddog on June 30, 2011, 10:28:27 PM +0100
Ah, but Motor Racing is a competitive business.  Which of us knows, when a number is being done on us.  Mathematicians are good at that. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on June 30, 2011, 11:00:04 PM +0100
LOL - I don't think Cookie was thinking that you didn't respect me in the morning...  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: bernie on June 30, 2011, 11:30:31 PM +0100
So we are not drivers , we are all just numbers  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Stefano62 on June 30, 2011, 11:55:57 PM +0100
Göran i can drive for the Black Team at Kyalami Friday 1 July.
Thank's.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 01, 2011, 12:28:41 AM +0100
Since we are driving creations that are based on the ability to perform binary arithmetic - yes you are Bernie!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 01, 2011, 12:31:50 AM +0100
Since we are driving creations that are based on the ability to perform binary arithmetic - yes you are Bernie!

Binary? So am I a zero or a one?  ??? ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 01, 2011, 12:36:08 AM +0100
Lol - you may be the one... but I wouldn't bet on it... definitely not a zero though...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: maddog on July 01, 2011, 01:11:08 AM +0100
I think the way it works, is after you have won, you're a 1.  Some of our members are right ones, but there are some, who are more often left. ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: G Jonsson on July 01, 2011, 01:27:10 AM +0100
Göran i can drive for the Black Team at Kyalami Friday 1 July.
Thank's.

Great, I have no idea about who you are but you are very welcome in the team.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Pedro vd Berg on July 01, 2011, 11:36:56 AM +0100
Göran i can drive for the Black Team at Kyalami Friday 1 July.
Great, I have no idea about who you are but you are very welcome in the team.

Thanks for replacing me today Stefano (zampedri ?) and have fun!!
And good luck to you to Göran and Fabio!

Greetings Pedro.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: fpolicardi on July 01, 2011, 12:28:42 PM +0100
Ehm sorry, but Stefano is listed as Team7 Reserve so I expect he would race with us as Bob can't race tonight  ???

Göran i can drive for the Black Team at Kyalami Friday 1 July.
Great, I have no idea about who you are but you are very welcome in the team.

Thanks for replacing me today Stefano (zampedri ?) and have fun!!
And good luck to you to Göran and Fabio!

Greetings Pedro.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: fpolicardi on July 01, 2011, 12:41:49 PM +0100
Both T7 and 8.GPG servers are ready set for 37 laps Long race listening on Igor.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 01, 2011, 12:54:25 PM +0100
Thanks FP. Now get that team sorted...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: fpolicardi on July 01, 2011, 12:59:23 PM +0100
Thanks FP. Now get that team sorted...

Please see here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9260.msg174105#msg174105
Thx
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Roberto Vianna on July 01, 2011, 06:12:09 PM +0100
Hello all! I will debut today in UKGPL I'm happy to be part of this great league!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on July 01, 2011, 07:12:12 PM +0100
Hello all! I will debut today in UKGPL I'm happy to be part of this great league!


Hi Roberto, and welcome. We are team mates - is Dave or Tristan making up the team tonight?

Arf


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Roberto Vianna on July 01, 2011, 07:16:52 PM +0100
Hmm! I do not know.
 Need to enter the chat to get the password?

Roberto


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on July 01, 2011, 07:24:25 PM +0100
The password should appear at the top of this page, just above all the high scores.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on July 01, 2011, 07:28:39 PM +0100
Hmm! I do not know.
 Need to enter the chat to get the password?

Roberto

I don't see you in the system, you need to vote in the poll at the top of the registration thread

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.0

Once you vote there an admin will add you and the password will be revealed at the top of this race thread.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on July 01, 2011, 07:34:34 PM +0100
Hmm! I do not know.
 Roberto

One other thing, just in case. Because you are a reserve driver, then if Tristan, Dave and I are all there tonight, I don't think you can drive for our team. If Dave or Tristan don't appear then you can automatically drive for us. I am not sure what the rules are about you driving for another team if LoL2 doesn't have room for you.

I told Tristan I was available earlier in the week, he didn't say anything about who else was driving tonight.





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Roberto Vianna on July 01, 2011, 07:53:31 PM +0100
No problem, if it fails to run, patience!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Roberto Vianna on July 01, 2011, 08:09:29 PM +0100
Already voted, I do right?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 01, 2011, 08:28:22 PM +0100
Already voted, I do right?
You should now be able to see the password and welcome to UKGPL.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Ronniepeterson on July 01, 2011, 08:35:25 PM +0100
Welcome indeed Roberto!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Geoff65 on July 01, 2011, 10:26:30 PM +0100
Well, that was rubbish. Caught up in 2 other drivers spins in only 14 laps, not a bad average. Tried to avoid Vos spinning at Crowthorne, only succeeded in following him and tapping him on the nose. Chased a pre-spun Jason for a few laps and we caught a group of cars ahead of us comprising Norbert, Dave Rainier and I think Ronnie a 1/2 second or so ahead. And as always happens as soon as you catch a small group someone bloody spins and blocks the track. Had to take avoiding action to miss Norbert who rolled backwards into my chosen tight line off Crowthorne, and lost it cracking the bank on the outside. Soon after I got going again, it dropped a cylinder and that was goodnight nurse. Drove it up the bank at Crowthorne to spectate for a while. Not happy Jan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2akt3P8ltLM


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 01, 2011, 10:32:35 PM +0100
I did all of 1 minute 33 seconds before feeling a bump, seeing a spin (mine) then losing a wheel. Not a good night for Clark-Hill it seems.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Geoff65 on July 01, 2011, 10:35:55 PM +0100
Not a good night for Clark-Hill it seems.

A master of understatement lad....... :lol:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: bernie on July 01, 2011, 11:03:43 PM +0100
Quote
Not happy Jan.

Not exactly what Hawkeye would have said  ;D

(Just noticed your avatar ) I was spectating at Oulton on that very sad day   :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 02, 2011, 12:38:19 AM +0100
Absolutely knackered. Drove for a finish and gained some points from people falling off. Not exactly Schumacher but it was cobblers... :D The import then took a couple of hours <yawn>

Getting you guys on the right servers is very hard. Makes my cat-herding job seem easy ;)

Also I could do without losing the server password again... that'll learn me to use caching.

Thanks to Fulvio (again) and well done all on joining the right servers with the right car (mostly) and the right profile (mostly).

I think I might skip Sunday - I've had enough of South Africa...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Roberto Vianna on July 02, 2011, 05:00:53 AM +0100
It was very gratifying to participate in this race!
 Too bad it was short lived. Problems newbie eh eh eh
 Thank you for the welcome received.
 Until next time


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Geoff65 on July 02, 2011, 07:20:05 AM +0100
Quote
Not happy Jan.

Not exactly what Hawkeye would have said  ;D

(Just noticed your avatar ) I was spectating at Oulton on that very sad day   :(

Yeah, I'd never heard of Paul Hawkins until I was searching for some information that I've forgotten about now. I came across by accident a short Bio on Paul and found that he was a born and bred Melbourne boy just like myself. I found it ludicrous that I had never heard mention of the man's name anywhere in motor racing circles. You have to understand I suppose, that as far as the motor racing media is concerned nobody rates any mention at all unless they're from NSW. Sir Jack is from NSW, as are Gardner, Doohan, Stoner, Bayliss and many more that I can't recall at this time. Paul was a world class sportscar driver, having won Targa in '67 I think and class wins at  LeMans more than once, and totally anonymous in his own home town. He obviously didn't belong to the right clique to get any recognition. A very sad loss indeed, who knows how many 24Hour races he could have won without having his career fatally shortened.
 
http://www.racingsportscars.com/driver/photo/Paul-Hawkins-AUS.html
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Nurburgring-1967-05-28.html
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1967/Nurburgring-1967-05-28-019.jpg

Worth a look when you have the time. Might speak with my brother Mods about the possibility of a single Paul Hawkins Memorial Sportscar Classic at the end of the season. He was driving for the Porsche factory team for a while it seems in the 910.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Rainier on July 02, 2011, 08:51:59 AM +0100
Hello

Kyalami was my first race on UKGPL.
I really enjoy it, even if it was very difficult !
First, my PC rebooted when I try to connect for qualifying ...and everything was OK with my computer only 6 minutes before the start of the race.

After 11 laps, I was not disconnected as it is indicated in the race report on top of the page, but I loose a wheel after hitting the wall to avoid another racer (Stemmler ?) who spun just in front of me on V1.

Congratulation to my team mate Tristan "magicarsouille" Bot who finish 2nd and to all drivers for this nice race !

See you on next race
Dave "Prostwasthebest" Rainier   ;)
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 02, 2011, 09:20:01 AM +0100
That was a challenging race for me. I had gone into this race with quite some confidence after a good run in the GT race  at Kya last week and some promising form in the Breasts Kya race on weds... but somehow I just couldnt hook it up last night!
Qual was ok, doing all my laptimes with full race fuel. I got a decent enough start and spent the first few laps at the tail end of a bunch of 5 cars. Fustratingly though, depsite being obviously faster than the guys in front I wasnt fast enough down the straight to be able to make a pass (i'm beginning to think this is down to the generous amounts of toe-in I like in my setups which causes extra rolling resistance).. Eventually I had a go at passing Nicky but left the braking marginally too late and spun the car...
I then set off Dave Ranier and was again much faster over the lap but just did not have the straight line speed to make a paass! Its quite disheartening to be in someones slipstream and fail to keep up with them! Lucky for me, and unlucky for Dave, Norbert had his own little spin and caused Dave some problems..
Next up for me I set off after Ronnie and was clearly catching but pushed too hard and spun the car, dropping back 10 seconds. Only thing left for me to do was keep pushing in the desparate hope that Ronnie or Axel would have a problem. In the end it was me that had problems with inpatient leaders trying to lap me in places that I wasnt comfortable with.. especially Tristan who dived up the inside at the chicane- I either had to run wide and spin or cut in and hit him.. I took the avoidance option and damaged my car.
In all, 10th was not a reflection of the potential I had here, and I feel very disapointed not to have done better.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: bernie on July 02, 2011, 09:36:37 AM +0100
"Hawkeye" wasn't just a great driver , he was a living legend  

http://imageshack.us/f/691/paulhawkins.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/f/691/paulhawkins.jpg/)

Some great reading here
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=23670&hl=hawkeye (http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=23670&hl=hawkeye)

One of the best books I ever read
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawkeye-Outrageous-Australian-Racing-Hawkins/dp/1899870679 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawkeye-Outrageous-Australian-Racing-Hawkins/dp/1899870679)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 02, 2011, 10:01:08 AM +0100
I'm sorry for my intrusion (my post race report is not yet ready) but...I suggest to those pilots that are being lapped to take a look in the mirror because Tristan has been forced to hit someone at the last 4 turns of the very last lap because all the track was crowded of lapped pilots. He made a sweep. Tristan and me were battling for the 2nd place and although I was with less than a liter of fuel in my tank, during this event I closed the gap to him and I was forced to brake to avoid any possible contact with lapped pilots also.

Thanks for the attention payed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 10:08:49 AM +0100

First, my PC rebooted when I try to connect for qualifying ...and everything was OK with my computer only 6 minutes before the start of the race.

Dave "Prostwasthebest" Rainier   ;)
 

Welcome on UKGPL Dave!
Yes, this is a superb community  :thumbup2:

My prelude

It started nearly same...
When I restarted my pc (as a routine before every race) 2 min before 21:00 GMT, I could not connect to IGOR... 
Pheeeew  :eek:
I became hectic and controlled every cable on my pc and router. NOTHING wrong!
Then I restarted pc again and thx god, IGOR was connected...
I jumped into UKGPL chat and made shure, (as a typical german ::) ) that Hendy had installed the pitwall to preserve him from being dqed.

My Quali

Well that was a fight for every 1/100 sec! Got finally 9th...

My race

This was one of my best in my short online racing career! Nearly without mistakes...

Great thanks to Andrea and Nicky for that fair fight we had, your driving is better but my car was better  :thumbup1: 
All the time I made out of corners and on the straight, I lost with miserable braking into corners.  :-[ 
I will work on it, as I can see in replays, my followers have hairy situations from my behaviour!

Second half of the race I calmed a little down and kept in touch with my teammate Ray to a happy ending.

But UHHHH in last lap, being lapped by Tristan and Sergio, there was a Waza I was going to lap...
Finally all went good and I happily crossed the finish line where I had started.
Still smiling  ;D

Cheers :chef:


 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: NickyIckx on July 02, 2011, 10:29:56 AM +0100
 :) ;) :D
First big congratulations to the podium ones !!!!!

As to my race :
Got very nice and clean close racing with Cookie and A.Tendas over couple of laps , huge fun

But I have to apologize 3 times and think I should penalized by moderators for at least one of my actions  .
( will sent incident reports off my lousy work )

1.   L1 0:01:33 . I sent Vosblod wide and he lost his car . I did not expect he was still continue to fight back to the inner line of that right hander  , as next turn to come was a left hander . So to me typical an situation two cars go round side by side . But anyhow Vos was in front , so it was up to me to stay free ( I should penalized for it ) SORRY
2.   L32 0:45:07  I chrashed into backmarker B.Baldassar in the mid of the main straight . Was my intention to catch some slipstream .. but hey he wasn’t going highspeed dunno why ( only 205kmh !!!!! ) so I mismatch . plz note : extreme slow driving on a race track is dangerous , especially on a fast straight it could not been expected by other drivers , as long its not obvious the car is damaged …BUT at least my fault .SORRY
3.   L33 0:45:53 I closed up laping Hristo . Sorry . pribluda told me its Baldassar , which I already did laped .   again my fault


All in all Porsche Cup serves me lot off fun . really love it . Hope I will find the time to analyse my Kya setup to find more speed for the future . Especially my exit acceleration troubles me . its so slow I couldn’t hardly follow Cookie in front ….



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Geoff65 on July 02, 2011, 11:15:45 AM +0100
"Hawkeye" wasn't just a great driver , he was a living legend  

http://imageshack.us/f/691/paulhawkins.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/f/691/paulhawkins.jpg/)

Some great reading here
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=23670&hl=hawkeye (http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=23670&hl=hawkeye)

One of the best books I ever read
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawkeye-Outrageous-Australian-Racing-Hawkins/dp/1899870679 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawkeye-Outrageous-Australian-Racing-Hawkins/dp/1899870679)

Thanks Bernie, great stuff. I'm ordering the book ASAP. Was a living legend indeed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 11:29:54 AM +0100

Hope I will find the time to analyse my Kya setup to find more speed for the future . Especially my exit acceleration troubles me . its so slow I couldn’t hardly follow Cookie in front ….


Yes Nicky  :scooter:

It was my looong first gear I used in Clubhouse and Leeukop Bent  ;D
How to get it on the track? I learned by analyzing ToM_Gs setup.  ;)

:chef:





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 11:45:30 AM +0100
...I closed up laping Hristo . Sorry . pribluda told me its Baldassar , which I already did laped...

I have a great petition to Tom_v_Ostade:

Please make it possible to drive in Porsche Super Cup with more individual 910s.

This could help to avoid such situations ;)

Thanks

:chef:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 02, 2011, 12:40:02 PM +0100
Or... you can stop relying on Pribluda so much, when you know for a fact it doesn't always show the correct info.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: tom_g on July 02, 2011, 12:48:50 PM +0100
Hi all,

good race for my, except an accident with a lapped driver....sorry :/ hope he can finish the race!

see you ;)

ToM


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 02, 2011, 12:51:05 PM +0100
Apology accepted Nicky. Difficult thing as we are here to race which does mean passing. Anyway, as lap one and will be picked up anyway, I better put in a report but no hard feelings. Surprised my wheel was taken off on the grass though.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 01:05:57 PM +0100
Or... you can stop relying on Pribluda so much, when you know for a fact it doesn't always show the correct info.  ::)

You are right Hristo!
I know the irritating infos of Pribluda!

...but there is no "or" accepted cause it would really help a "human" driver to differentiate between a lapper and an already lapped!
What should be in your interest too I suppose  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 02, 2011, 01:23:04 PM +0100
But UHHHH in last lap, being lapped by Tristan and Sergio, there was a Waza I was going to lap...
Finally all went good and I happily crossed the finish line where I had started.
Still smiling  ;D

Hmmm - wonder who that sideways Waza was. Sorry mate - I just had mirrors full of three abreast and I was slightly out of control and nowhere to go - arrrgggghhhhh. I did try to behave myself but I wasn't feeling very good last night.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 02, 2011, 01:59:38 PM +0100
Or... you can stop relying on Pribluda so much, when you know for a fact it doesn't always show the correct info.  ::)

You are right Hristo!
I know the irritating infos of Pribluda!

...but there is no "or" accepted cause it would really help a "human" driver to differentiate between a lapper and an already lapped!
What should be in your interest too I suppose  ;D

If you don't get distracted with Pribluda all the time, you'd be much more aware of who's where on the track around you, and you'd easily judge by the speed difference when someone is going to lap you as opposed to fighting with you for position. Some people trust way too much on info from Pribluda and forget about using common sense and their own awareness.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 02:34:57 PM +0100

If you don't get distracted with Pribluda all the time, you'd be much more aware of who's where on the track around you...


I am an old man but not yet dement!

I allways know who is arround me and I am not distracted with Pribluda all the time.
It helps to know if Hristo is coming, far before he is there ;D

And I consist that some various Porsche skins would help!

:chef:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 02:42:45 PM +0100

Hmmm - wonder who that sideways Waza was.


As I see it, this situation was extreme for all of us in the last lap! And Paul was the poor rabbit chasen by all biting dogs arround.
For me no incident!!!

Cheers :chef:



 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 02, 2011, 02:47:13 PM +0100

If you don't get distracted with Pribluda all the time, you'd be much more aware of who's where on the track around you...


I am an old man but not yet dement!

I allways know who is arround me and I am not distracted with Pribluda all the time.
It helps to know if Hristo is coming, far before he is there ;D

And I consist that some various Porsche skins would help!

:chef:

And if it happens that Pribluda drops me for a couple of seconds and shows someone else behind you, how is that of help? Or if it shows me at a wrong distance/gap, like it also happens sometimes. I never blamed you for bad driving due to Pribluda, but I was saying it for everyone, not just you, because some just rely on it too much and forget to use other feedback sources more efficiently.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: s2173 on July 02, 2011, 02:53:00 PM +0100
Wery bad race for me... i forgot to load my setup to race and i ended up with default setup - not enough fuel for the race and awfully low steering ratio... amazingly i managed to make my way through the first 2 laps,but then i wrap-rearended someone at the hairpin (i didnt feel anything, but he went offtrack, sorry) and after that i just quit... Too bad it wont teach me to load this damn setup...happened 3 times aready.  :-X


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Tom van Ostade on July 02, 2011, 03:11:12 PM +0100
More skins eh? I already made an all blue and an all orange version, which other colors should I pick? All Porsches that race now have liveries used during the 1967 endurance season, although they only changed the nose colors for each race. Perhaps it something to bring up during the off season, certainly changing the colors on the car doesn't take me much time :) .

It seems like more people unfortunately experienced hindrance from backmarkers. I'd even go as far as saying the way backmarkers got out of the way yesterday was below the usual high standards of UKGPL, unfortunately. Last night was the second time in two races a backmarker got in my way, so I hope this is not becoming a problem. Thankfully the Solitude is a big track so we won't have to worry about backmarkers too much over there :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 02, 2011, 03:18:44 PM +0100
OK, I installed back the pit wall and it became apparent I was confused by the yellow line that marks the pit exit, which I thought was exactly beneath the pit wall armco. At the start, I passed just near that yellow line, thinking it's the actual pit wall, but in reality the pit wall extends further to the left, so I really crossed it - my apologies.

Anyway, it was a very good race with Tom until it was compromised later on in the race. From there on it was a lonely run, but not for long. I had one particular hair raising moment which nobody was responsible for really, but I suggest you watch it for your own entertainment - it unfolds at 45m24s into the race on the server replay. Baldassarri was stationary at T1 after a spin and Stemmler had slowed down in caution, so I just managed to go between both of them as we entered the corner - the view from Baldassarri's in-car camera is frightening!  ;D

Grats to Bot (!) for probably getting the win after I probably get DQ.  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 03:29:35 PM +0100
More skins eh? I already made an all blue and an all orange version, which other colors should I pick? All Porsches that race now have liveries used during the 1967 endurance season, although they only changed the nose colors for each race. Perhaps it something to bring up during the off season, certainly changing the colors on the car doesn't take me much time :) .
Tommie.

Sorry Tommie

Hope I wasn't one of the bad guys ::)

There shouldn't be any pressure on you ::)
But my idea is that these colors can be seen in online races by all others.
Then if I could have a whish:
why not national colors, like the british racing green, orange for you and red, for whom I've forgotten, white,  blue and so on
cause sooner or later this series will become a kind of World Cup.
I know the difficulties of getting the right colors to the right people... just dreaming!

Thanx
Axel

PS atm I run a test on IGOR 69X with 60fpsV1


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 02, 2011, 04:21:39 PM +0100
But my idea is that these colors can be seen in online races by all others.
Then if I could have a whish:
why not national colors, like the british racing green, orange for you and red, for whom I've forgotten, white,  blue and so on
cause sooner or later this series will become a kind of World Cup.
I know the difficulties of getting the right colors to the right people... just dreaming!
Hi Axel, I've always liked the idea of team or even personal liveries in races, indeed we even tried it in the old Interleague series. Expanding the idea has been kicked around in the past and generally didn't find favour due to the logistics involved.
I don't think the logistics are insurmountable, I believe GP Fun do it, but things can get time consuming if the attendees at events are fluid.
If things could be streamlined, so entering the servers with the right livery is simple and doesn't take too much time, it's something that could be considered subject to everyone being keen. The good thing with personalised liveries is, if you aren't interested, you can just ignore it and don't need to change your GPL settings.
Who would paint all the cars though?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 02, 2011, 05:59:23 PM +0100

Hmmm - wonder who that sideways Waza was.


As I see it, this situation was extreme for all of us in the last lap! And Paul was the poor rabbit chasen by all biting dogs arround.
For me no incident!!!

Cheers :chef:


Nice of you Cookie but I don't know what I was thinking of - it was really crap. I got a real shock when you appeared in my mirrors so I was obviously a bit distracted. I should have known you were there. Very bad. What is wierd is that Tristan then comes through fast and I get off the driving line and he just shunts me really hard. Lucky we both didn't blow up. Don't feel at fault for that one though...



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: jhalli on July 02, 2011, 08:39:24 PM +0100
not a best racing for me setup was odd and was propably only who didnt use Tom's setup clone.
After dropping out on early laps it was difficult to gain spots back but managed to do it to 5th, Tommies engine leaking oil to road but still havent time to catch him in the end of race.This was no my track .


grats Tristan for win!

i think i still got the lead in champ with 1 or 2 points before Tommie.  ;D

Juha


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 02, 2011, 08:43:20 PM +0100
Who would paint all the cars though?

I can give a hand if u want or help any other guy to customize skins!

In GPFun we use customized skins but there are some restrictions pertaining a precise pilot entry list for entering the server and have the correct skin assignment. My livery files are identified by entry list number 97 because the number 27 (that is drawn on my car) was already assigned in the past to another pilot. I made the Lotus 72 JPS livery for my cars in GPFun. SO I have Lotus, Eagle, Ferrari, Brabham, Cooper, Honda and BRM painted in black and gold with the trademark JPS (John Player Special).

These are my Brabham, Cooper and Ferrari
(http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/uploaded/clouds/2008122653649_Brabham%20JPS%2000.jpg)
(http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/uploaded/clouds/2008122021820_Cooper%20JPS%2003.jpg)
(http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/uploaded/Stex68/20081130191243_Fer97_48v.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 02, 2011, 09:33:45 PM +0100
Those look extremely good Sergio. Martin has also offered to help paint and Tom mentioned in the past he might pitch in. So that would cover the liveries.
What is the process re joining Sergio? Guess with team liveries you can just join by team order rather then driver by driver? How long does it normally take for GP Fun? And what do you do when someone is missing? If we had to use the 'dummy car' procedure would it block off a place on the grid or can we still have 19?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 02, 2011, 10:08:31 PM +0100
Uhm...I have to ask to LucaV that is the guy that manage the pilots/liveries combinations for the method and then I'll answer to you, ok ? ;)

I didn't understand very well anyway. Are there changements to server 1 race resuts ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 02, 2011, 10:21:53 PM +0100
what I can surely say is, it is the order each pilot enters on the server that makes possible the combination pilot/livery in fact the manager calls each pilot for the entry in winvroc chat so are not permitted free entries.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 10:33:42 PM +0100
WOW
now it gets interresting!

My dream:

It needs the help of the great makers of the 69X mod and GTmod.
They managed to make 45 different cars  of 69x and to assign slots for them, in GT we have 9 slots used remaining 36.
Still dreaming, if there are some GTs in the pipeline there will still be a possibility for some Porsches left..

What we need to get eg the team colors are atm 12 different Porsches or 18 for 3rd server and so on  ;D
The Pastit Teamies just take their red Porky or the LOL team takes the  blue one...

Then there would be no trouble to join or if someone is missing

dreaming :chef:




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 02, 2011, 10:42:59 PM +0100
If you're talking new car slots that is getting into modding territory which is beyond me ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 02, 2011, 10:59:27 PM +0100
Just beautiful Sergio. It would be nice if we could manage it. Could we not have multiple skins for different entry points? i.e. if you are first in you get blue, second in, red and so on?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 02, 2011, 11:05:26 PM +0100
I only count 1 and 1 together...

What is possible with 69x should be possible with GTs too  ::)

It's my profession to find solutions ;)

I know those guys are not paid for their great work and they need their time!
But this doesn't keep me away from seeing the stars...

cheers :chef:



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 02, 2011, 11:50:59 PM +0100
Just beautiful Sergio. It would be nice if we could manage it. Could we not have multiple skins for different entry points? i.e. if you are first in you get blue, second in, red and so on?
Yes that could be easily done without any queing, subject to someone coming up with the liveries. The only thing is would it mean anything? Might look nice and rainbowish but I for one would never remember that Turquoise is number 14. The team chassis idea does sound great though or even the country thing. We do actually have a UKGPL team livery from the Interleague races here; http://www.gpfun.net/public/downloads/Files/Carset/carset_ukgpl.rar (http://www.gpfun.net/public/downloads/Files/Carset/carset_ukgpl.rar) (back up your cars67 folder first if you want to have a look)
Cookie - if I recall the 69x team had big fun breaking in new car slots but if you've got the time to find the solution that would certainly solve the whole problem.

PS: Just a reminder if you want your country flag to show in the race imports go into your profile then driver details and select your country.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 03, 2011, 12:08:39 AM +0100
LucaV of GPFun told me several months ago that modders were programming for 36 or more cars in the same race. It seems very good but...just yesteray night I had bad warping during first 5 race laps and so I decided to maintain a little clearance more from me to the other pilots surrounding me untill warping has ended but...at that point, Hristo was on another planet!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 03, 2011, 12:59:27 AM +0100
Current technology is at a level where 3000KM server client/server/cilent technology is about the limit of what is acceptable insofar as human perception is concerned. Our UKGPL servers maxx out their bandwidth/speed connections as per current performace limitations and thus any perfromance/issues from our southern hemisphere colleagues/friends are to be expected...
As for the issue of bespoke livery/entry per entrants - yesits doable but not with GPL
with the gpl model of car/entrant #/it becomes almot impossible to ontrol]
mind you. im pissed - was he askin sometnig elsee 0  -- After all I live in the centrere of  the olrs most prolific Vodka propducing area )!!!!!
No wonder the whole Lincolnshire is always drunk"""""!!!!
BTW its ust taken 12 minutes to trype this"""!!!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 03, 2011, 01:31:55 AM +0100

Cookie - if I recall the 69x team had big fun breaking in new car slots but if you've got the time to find the solution that would certainly solve the whole problem.


The solution would be to transplant the slot handling routines from 69X to GTmod!
If the two teams are willing to cooperate I don't know ::)

As my programming skills are old and rudimental, my job is to be in the middle of the user and the programmer ;)
I have to understand both sides the whishes and the limits...

But if there are a lot of routine jobs to do I am willing to help in my limits ;D

Cheers :chef:

Nastrovje Jason  :cursing:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 03, 2011, 09:13:14 AM +0100
Sorry but maybe I'm a lill confused. Who have won heat one Hristo or Tristan ?

Thx


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: fpolicardi on July 03, 2011, 10:43:52 AM +0100
Sergio we have to wait for the moderators work for the final results.

About liveries there is a file called driver.ini, for GT mod drivGT.ini, where are assigned the car numbers to every entrant. First entrant takes the driver_19 number, second takes driver_18 and so on. At every car number is associated the relative skin number so it's important that the drivers join the server in the right order to take the right skin.
Only the drivGT.ini on the server has to be personalized in case we use different skin/car numbers than those already present in the GT mod.

Hope it helps :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 03, 2011, 11:03:15 AM +0100
Sorry but maybe I'm a lill confused. Who have won heat one Hristo or Tristan ?

Thx

I did, but Tristan would probably be handed over the victory when they DQ me from crossing the pit wall at the start.  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: JonnyO on July 03, 2011, 02:43:52 PM +0100
My race is always very colorful, I added new Porsche cars, all paintings are true that raced in Brazil and and other places, did all the 12 new Porsches.

   Here a small example.

(http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9031/porschesbrasil.png)

I have 12 different cars, if someone wants I can make a package for dawnload.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: norbert on July 03, 2011, 03:59:58 PM +0100
I have 12 different cars, if someone wants I can make a package for dawnload.

Yes please :yes:
Looks great, and I'm always interested in car updates  ;D.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 03, 2011, 06:40:22 PM +0100
Nice JonnyO!  :) I have already in my mind the customized livery for our GPFun Team.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 03, 2011, 06:45:32 PM +0100
Grazie Fulvio!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 03, 2011, 09:41:35 PM +0100
Really nice graphics Jonny and the offer of a download pack would be great.

Before we get too carried away the idea of personalised liveries has been mooted before, myself being a protagonist.
It basically fell on it's face because the majority weren't keen on queing up to join the server in an orderly fashion. There are other glitches to be overcome eg absentee drivers, but they are not insurmountable.

One idea I had was to start the server say 25 mins before the official qually start (ie 55 mins qually / 8.40pm UK time) then those who wanted team graphics turn up early and join in an orderly fashion. Those that aren't interested can then just turn up at 9pm as per normal and just hop on and get the existing liveries.

Two things I think we would need to go forward; a mug sorry Server Captain and a general enthusiasm from the drivers in the division ie do they want it? Generate some interest and I guess we could run a poll. The main thing is to ensure that those who don't want team liveries, and I appreciate some are not interested and just want to race, are not inconvenienced by those that do. Also the modders are busy boys already hence the need for a Server Captain so they aren't lumbered with extra duties.
Oh and we need the carsets but see we have quite a few generous offers already for that.

PS: one afterthought. As the teams are swapping around between two (and perhaps fingers crossed) three servers would it work? Wouldn't someone have to redraft both servers drivGT.ini's before every event?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Geoff65 on July 04, 2011, 01:14:47 AM +0100


I have 12 different cars, if someone wants I can make a package for download.

Nice work Jonny.....I could handle a set of pretty, new Porkas too thank you!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 04, 2011, 08:12:48 AM +0100
Sorry but maybe I'm a lill confused. Who have won heat one Hristo or Tristan ?

Thx

I did, but Tristan would probably be handed over the victory when they DQ me from crossing the pit wall at the start.  :angel:

Ok Hristo. I have asked this because you're completely missing in my replay file so I thought it could be a problem of my replay file.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 04, 2011, 01:01:25 PM +0100
That's normal, most of the time client replays don't show all cars.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 04, 2011, 02:34:56 PM +0100
What does it means (FT) and (R1) ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: BadBlood on July 04, 2011, 02:55:47 PM +0100
FT=Full Time - 75% or more races
R1=Reserve - you can only join if the grid is not full


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 04, 2011, 03:59:27 PM +0100
Thank you very much!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: RBald on July 04, 2011, 10:18:56 PM +0100
Hello,

I saw very late that I have been notified for two incidents. I can image that these events are related to a bumping into suffered during a lapping on the main straight with subsequent rolling out of control up to T1.

In any case I would be very happy to have a look into the replay in order to form a more precise idea on what happened and possibly to provide a justification.

Is it possible to examine the replay ?

Thanks in advance
Roberto


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 04, 2011, 10:37:50 PM +0100
Is it possible to examine the replay ?
All our UKGPL_5 and UKPLT7_2 replays are placed here http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/) - you can also get there via www.ukgpl.com (https://www.ukgpl.com) then top left under the replay section. Our Gpg server replays (Works 67) are automatically stored by the guys that operate the servers and details can be found in the specific race posts.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: RBald on July 04, 2011, 10:49:23 PM +0100
:) ;) :D
First big congratulations to the podium ones !!!!!

As to my race :
Got very nice and clean close racing with Cookie and A.Tendas over couple of laps , huge fun

But I have to apologize 3 times and think I should penalized by moderators for at least one of my actions  .
( will sent incident reports off my lousy work )

1.   L1 0:01:33 . I sent Vosblod wide and he lost his car . I did not expect he was still continue to fight back to the inner line of that right hander  , as next turn to come was a left hander . So to me typical an situation two cars go round side by side . But anyhow Vos was in front , so it was up to me to stay free ( I should penalized for it ) SORRY
2.   L32 0:45:07  I chrashed into backmarker B.Baldassar in the mid of the main straight . Was my intention to catch some slipstream .. but hey he wasn’t going highspeed dunno why ( only 205kmh !!!!! ) so I mismatch . plz note : extreme slow driving on a race track is dangerous , especially on a fast straight it could not been expected by other drivers , as long its not obvious the car is damaged …BUT at least my fault .SORRY
3.   L33 0:45:53 I closed up laping Hristo . Sorry . pribluda told me its Baldassar , which I already did laped .   again my fault


All in all Porsche Cup serves me lot off fun . really love it . Hope I will find the time to analyse my Kya setup to find more speed for the future . Especially my exit acceleration troubles me . its so slow I couldn’t hardly follow Cookie in front ….



Hi Nicky,

The point was that I saw you reached me well before the main straight, but I thought It was safer allowing you overtaking on the main straight. Once I was there  I got off the usual trajectory and slowed down just to avoid to arrive too close each other to  the T1.  Instead you probably interpreted differently my manoeuvre.

Sorry for the occurrence

Bye
Roberto


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: JonnyO on July 06, 2011, 04:31:50 PM +0100
This is the link to download the carset porsche, with 12 new skins.

 I do not know if this is the best place to leave the link.
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0ByZKkLThncfnN2Y2Nzc5ZjQtNzg5NC00NzI1LWEwZWQtNGM5MDA3MTVjYTE5&hl=en_US
 It's very simple to install, get all the files from the "cup porsche uk" and play in the folder PORSCHE modGT.
 But remember, get only the files that are inside the folder "porsche uk cup."

  Then see a replay of the last race, the carset has to work on replay.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: vosblod on July 06, 2011, 06:53:12 PM +0100
Thanks for that, installed them. Should make the races more colorfull.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 06, 2011, 10:20:42 PM +0100
Good work Fella!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: jhalli on July 06, 2011, 11:06:33 PM +0100
thanks Jonny, but now i see cookie racing in tricolor  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Cookie on July 07, 2011, 08:47:16 AM +0100
thanks Jonny, but now i see cookie racing in tricolor  :laugh:

No fault!
- as I was allways loving france
- some of my forefathers where french ;D
- living 30km to the french border

Thanks Jonny! It makes the races more colorfull!

:chef:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on July 11, 2011, 10:21:14 PM +0100
Race mod published.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 11, 2011, 10:42:59 PM +0100
Race mod published.

I don't really like your views on patience on these matters. It is pretty obvious from a replay that the speed difference between lapped drivers and those who lap them is big and there's a major time loss with each corner that passes without going through, so I think patience is not a factor at all here. The track is wide enough, they had mirrors, they can hear the cars behind being very close, etc. etc., yet you're saying we should just slow down by a second a lap and stick behind, instead of getting by and do what we should - lap the backmarker? Not to mention in the accident with Nicky he opened the door and I just went through it, without any loss of control whatsoever and he simply turned into me, but then I'm being impatient? Oh please...

It's also funny you say I would've been penalized if I had made contact in the situation with Norbert's spun car, considering the whole thing unfolded so quick and there were no flags whatsoever to warn anyone coming down the straight of what's in front.

You know, in the case with Jason, it's an exact repeat of what happened a few seasons ago in a 67 race at Road Atlanta, where JB held me for more than half a lap and he was penalized for holding me up, but here you just try to excuse such driving with some wild guesses instead of simply taking the facts into account. Nothing personal against Jason, but to you it seemed that his drunk report was more important to mention in detail than having an objective view on what actually took place and how it affected Axel's race, and who was responsible for that...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: miner2049er on July 11, 2011, 11:42:15 PM +0100
I don't really like your views on patience on these matters.

It is a matter of opinions, You can't always pass at the first, second or even third corner that you catch a backmarker.

I mentioned that Jason should have probably let you both through before the Esses, I think I would have done, but that's why I mentioned the long straight approaching, he may have been waiting for that but he got rear ended before he got there.

Not to mention in the accident with Nicky he opened the door and I just went through it, without any loss of control whatsoever and he simply turned into me, but then I'm being impatient? Oh please...

Again, it's a matter of opinions, you didn't lose control and Nicky did turn in but you didn't have any overlap at all at turn, accepting that it was a lapping and not for position. You may well have passed cleanly if you had followed him through Sunset and done it at Clubhouse, so a little patience would have meant no contact.

It wasn't a criticism it was an observation, and I think a valid one.

It's also funny you say I would've been penalized

No, I said you may have. As the mod says, we do have rules for Lack of care approaching an incident, and you could clearly see a car blocking half of the track.

Again, a valid observation.

it's an exact repeat of what happened a few seasons ago in a 67 race at Road Atlanta, where JB held me for more than half a lap

I disagree, this was 2 corners, not really the same at all.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 12, 2011, 07:00:45 AM +0100
Hristo - the difference in speed wasn't all that obvious to me... You and Tom were not near enough for a pass in the tight left hander before the chicane, you WERE close enough going into the chicane but I find there is only one line through the chicane which is why I stayed tight on the exit and lifted.I HAD intended to let you dift past on the main straight but the chicane ws the 4th blue flag so I thought I ought to move over there instead...
BTW, Hristo, a couple of months ago I seem to recall you complaining that backmarkers continually dived out of your way instead of just letting you pass them cleanly, after all you have the speed to pass easily so why should anyone overly compromise their own race unnecesarily? I remember that post well .....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: clouds on July 12, 2011, 09:10:27 AM +0100
I was in doubt amongst to struggle to maintain the first place (because pribluda didn't show me Hitchov at all so I was virtually in 1st place) and to be conservative trying to bring home at least the second place because at the beginning of the last 2 laps my fuel gauge (pribluda) was indicating I was going to finish my race with less than 1 liter of fuel. So I decided conservatively reducing my engine revs permitting Tristan to overtake me just at the last lap and so ending anyway with 3/4 of a liter in my tank  :o :(  :P
That was not properly a good fighter behaviour but... like someone said...it is better to be a lion for 1 day or to be a hen for 100 days ? ...maybe it is better to be a dog for 50 days !  ;)
YahooOOooOoooo...oops...GooOOoooOggle !


P.S.: my top speed was almost 10 km/h lesser than the one of Tristan down the main straight !  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Tom van Ostade on July 12, 2011, 08:05:18 PM +0100
Thanks for the report Mike. I don't fully agree but respect your decision, your the mod after all not me :D .

Some background info: At the start, I actually hit the pit wall when I was following Hristo so I'm glad I didn't get DQ'ed by mistake! :D .

I saw in the replay with Jason that his car climbed the curb on exit and lost speed, so that's why I accidentally hit him. Unfortunately I didn't quite recover as my engine lost power and I lost about 3 seconds a lap from that point on. I knew during the race H would be DQ'ed and I would win, but decided to attack regardless. It cost me a win but I did manage to salvage 3rd (only just) so all is well :) .

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 12, 2011, 08:16:03 PM +0100
Tom, I noticed you had the power loss afterwards and didn't quite know what to do about you holding me up on the straight but being so much quicker around the rest of the track...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: NickyIckx on July 13, 2011, 06:40:24 AM +0100
 :)  thanks  for the report Mike . As I said before ; I absolutely deserved the penalties I got , hope Iam doing better next time  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 13, 2011, 11:01:37 PM +0100
Hristo - the difference in speed wasn't all that obvious to me... You and Tom were not near enough for a pass in the tight left hander before the chicane, you WERE close enough going into the chicane but I find there is only one line through the chicane which is why I stayed tight on the exit and lifted.I HAD intended to let you dift past on the main straight but the chicane ws the 4th blue flag so I thought I ought to move over there instead...
BTW, Hristo, a couple of months ago I seem to recall you complaining that backmarkers continually dived out of your way instead of just letting you pass them cleanly, after all you have the speed to pass easily so why should anyone overly compromise their own race unnecesarily? I remember that post well .....

Jason, 4 blue flags? Do you know why were weren't close enough to you? Because Axel noticeably eased off a little to give you some space and to avoid bad surprises. I doubt you would like that instead the leading car glues to your back and haunts you all over the place. If you were aware of us behind and you had 4 blue flags, why did you decide to suddenly ease off at the most inappropriate place, at the chicane, where there's only one line? It completely caught Axell off-guard and I was lucky to go through. To me it was a lot more than just 2 corners that we stood behind, but even so, if you had just maintained your pace (and that covers the 2nd part of your post) there would've been no incident. Instead you kept going at speed for 4 blue flags straight (in your own words), then you suddenly decelerated in a bad place and it led to an accident. This is the lack of predictability I'm talking about all the time... Of course, it's completely different if you simply lost it at the chicane and you were not trying to let us through, but it seemed that way. Again, my intention here is to say how it looks from the lapping driver point of view, not start a personal attack or something, and it's with hope that you can learn something from it.

@Mike - in the case with Nicky, you're saying I should have had a 6th sense that after opening the door Nicky would decide to close it back up? It really appeared he knew I was about to lap him and that it was for that reason he opened the door and/or braked earlier. Besides, he should have received at least 1 blue flag until we reached the corner. Anyway, not that I was affected and not that it matters now that I'm DQ, but I'm raising these issues so hopefully they can be prevented from happening as often in the future.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche - Kyalami - Jul 1
Post by: blito on July 14, 2011, 07:04:40 AM +0100
No, Hristo, you have it wrong. My intention was to stay tight on the exit of the chicane and dawdle along to the next corner, expecting Tom and yourself to drift to the outside on the normal line and sweep past. I didnt quite get the exit right and caused Tom a bit of grief in doing so. Again, I point out that the first place I really thought about where to be lapped was that tight left hander before the chicane but Tom wasn't quite in the right place for a pass, and TBH neither was I.. We then have the  chicane which isnt a good place to be passed and so I did what I thought was the best compromise for all of us but didnt quite get it right.