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Title: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 29, 2011, 10:39:43 PM +0100
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (18 laps = ~40mins)

Track: Mugello Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_mugello)

Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo GTA, Ford Mustang, Lotus Cortina

This race will use the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Time of Day Setting: 10:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk WPC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=319&theme=5)

Special Notes: None.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2011, 05:24:08 PM +0000
Ade's going to be hoping that the GTLDK boys are otherwise engaged..................


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Navin R Johnson on November 25, 2011, 06:07:31 AM +0000
Ade's going to be hoping that the GTLDK boys are otherwise engaged..................

Not sure if Ade can be caught :-\ And I didn't do myself any favors by giving away one race spot in the last 2 races ::). But in both cases it seemed like the right thing to do ;). I don't live and die for the Championships but I will promise to try as hard as usual to keep Ade honest ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Burtoner on December 05, 2011, 07:21:40 PM +0000
FFS all this starforce crap has buggered up my windows 7, need to reinstall!, to hell with this piece of crap!

Was hoping to join tonight


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 05, 2011, 07:28:01 PM +0000
FFS all this starforce crap has buggered up my windows 7, need to reinstall!, to hell with this piece of crap!

Was hoping to join tonight

There's probably a solution without having to reinstall Windows. Google around for your issue, maybe you'll find something.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Geoffers on December 05, 2011, 07:44:10 PM +0000
FFS all this starforce crap has buggered up my windows 7, need to reinstall!, to hell with this piece of crap!

Mmmm, I didn't think GTL on Windows 7 used starforce. The version of starforce used by GTL is not compatible with Windows 7!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Burtoner on December 05, 2011, 08:27:44 PM +0000
well its when i load gtl for 1st time its says its installed it, and needed a reboot to carrying on running game, but everytime i rebooted it kept asking again and again..


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Navin R Johnson on December 05, 2011, 09:31:12 PM +0000
Had a lovely start and was just letting things settle in for a nice long battle but heavy winds here in Southern California must have knocked down a transformer of something as I was rolling right along when everything went black :P. I hope Pelle didn't run into me if I froze up :-\. It was shaping up to be a real cracker of a race :). Hope you boys had a good time ;D. And hey, great turnout fellas 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 05, 2011, 09:42:02 PM +0000
well its when i load gtl for 1st time its says its installed it, and needed a reboot to carrying on running game, but everytime i rebooted it kept asking again and again..

The Starforce that GTL has is NOT compatible with Windows 7. Best to go to Raceroom and download the digital version of GTL that has Starforce removed.

Then find your LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT file and make a backup off it. Then change the contents of the file to read 94.23.231.41 and your good to go.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 05, 2011, 09:50:23 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Pelle_B on December 05, 2011, 10:31:47 PM +0000
I hope Pelle didn't run into me if I froze up :-\.
I was right behind you & had no chance when you froze...heart jumped up into the neck...but I drove right through you  ;D ...& on replay I discover Ade dropped by the server in the same way  :(

Grats to Hristo & Geoffers... I had no chance to follow you today  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Burtoner on December 05, 2011, 10:35:05 PM +0000
well its when i load gtl for 1st time its says its installed it, and needed a reboot to carrying on running game, but everytime i rebooted it kept asking again and again..

The Starforce that GTL has is NOT compatible with Windows 7. Best to go to Raceroom and download the digital version of GTL that has Starforce removed.

Then find your LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT file and make a backup off it. Then change the contents of the file to read 94.23.231.41 and your good to go.

from the demo version?, otherwise i have to pay for another copy?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 05, 2011, 11:04:52 PM +0000
well its when i load gtl for 1st time its says its installed it, and needed a reboot to carrying on running game, but everytime i rebooted it kept asking again and again..

The Starforce that GTL has is NOT compatible with Windows 7. Best to go to Raceroom and download the digital version of GTL that has Starforce removed.

Then find your LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT file and make a backup off it. Then change the contents of the file to read 94.23.231.41 and your good to go.

from the demo version?, otherwise i have to pay for another copy?

What Demo version?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Burtoner on December 05, 2011, 11:13:43 PM +0000
oops Digital version rather..


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 05, 2011, 11:22:06 PM +0000
oops Digital version rather..
If you want to use GTL and Windows 7 then yes. It's very cheap.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Pelle_B on December 06, 2011, 02:04:31 AM +0000
FFS all this starforce crap has buggered up my windows 7, need to reinstall!, to hell with this piece of crap!
Sry I did not notice this post sooner...Never install a GTL DVD with Star Force on Windows 7 ...but ask for help  ;)
@Burtoner: You have a PM


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 06, 2011, 06:00:37 AM +0000
You don't have to pay, as long as you have any licensed copy of GTL. I had a normal GTL version and just scanned (took photos rather) of the serial number and other things they require to send you a free serial number for the digital version. Check it out here:

http://www.raceroom.net/specials/gt-legends-revival/


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: spanner on December 06, 2011, 09:24:06 AM +0000
Not to mention there are cracks out there which at one time we were actively advertising :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 06, 2011, 09:44:45 AM +0000
Not to mention there are cracks out there which at one time we were actively advertising :-\
It's my understanding that the G*** C***** crack had it's own problems. There was also a free GTL disk given away with a German (Swiss?) computer mag cover disk which had no copy protection and runs fine with Windows 7.

The digital download from Raceroom is just the latest way to add GTL to your Windows 7 PC.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Burtoner on December 06, 2011, 09:56:10 AM +0000
all sent via form.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Geoffers on December 06, 2011, 11:54:13 AM +0000
Tough race, but really enjoyable.

Grabbed the lead at the start due to Hristo making a bad getaway & opened up a bit of a lead over Navin & Pelle. After Navin discoed & Hristo got past Pelle for 2nd I had about a 3-4s lead, expected Hristo to close the gap, but was surprised to keep the gap steady until just after half-distance.
Then my talent & concentration started to fade & I kept making little mistakes & Hristo was suddenly right on my rear bumper. Tyres were going off a little too & Hristo got ahead, briefly retook the lead but couldn't do it a second time & had to settle for 2nd.

Great driving Hristo, congrats, also to Pelle in 3rd. :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: phspok on December 06, 2011, 12:32:02 PM +0000
Good fun.  was hoping to have some battles with GT in the other yank tank, but got nudged into a spin
from behind on lap 1 and dropped back. Didn't really have the pace to catch so languished midfield alone
for most of the race, until PHil helpfully fell off and I had a couple of laps of fun getting in his way  ::)
Seemed to be more than the usual dropped conns, Phil also hung on the straight, and then discoed.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 06, 2011, 12:40:07 PM +0000
Had a great start and arrived at the top of the hill in 4th or 5th (I think, could be mistaken  ::)). However at the 3rd turn I nudged either Matt or GT and their lumbering Mustang began a slow spin. I waited for him to regain control/lose it totally and was hit by Bill which spun me around too. Regained my composure and trundled off in last place but with the rest off the field not so far away that they couldn't be caught. After a couple more laps I was in sight of Bill and soon caught and passed him. Then closed on the duel between Eifel and Alex. Took Eifel after he had an off (I think?) and proceeded to chase Alex who seemed to have the same pace as me. Then spent lap after lap after lap slowly making inroads into Alex's lead. Eventually I was close enough to have a go and after a struggle managed to overtake him and make it stick. Then my tyres went silly and I started to lose the best lines through the twisty's. Alex took the best advantage of this and closed and overtook me and held a handsome lead for the final few laps.

Great race and good turnout too, thanks guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: goldtop on December 06, 2011, 10:39:07 PM +0000
A late opportunity to race for me, but no time for any practice. My usual Alfa ride felt awful here with far too much understeer so decided to take the stang, which didn't feel any better really but I knew would give me a good start up the hill against the Alfas.

Sure enough I made up a few places but resisted the temptation to go piling into T1 which was a good job as we were 3 or 4 abreast at one stage going through there. Things were still very tight through the next series of turns and I lost a couple of places and then found myself with a clear gap as others tangled behind me. Phil was in sight for most of the race, but I couldn't close him down enough to get ahead on the straight so it ended up being a bit of a dull race for me.

I've had a bit of a lucky streak in simworld this week as a result of other's misfortunes. Makes a change for me. Last night was no different as Navin, Ade and Phil all discoed and I inherited a thoroughly undeserved 4th place. Congrats to Hristo, Geoffers and Pelle for the win and their podies. 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 07, 2011, 07:24:21 AM +0000
That was a great race, especially the chase with Geoffers. Although I had the countdown timer turned on this time, I still made a bad start and dropped down to 5th or something by the time we reached T1. Managed to make up a place, but then it took quite a while to pass the next 2 cars. In the meantime I could see Geoffers pulling away in the distance and that made me think I've lost all chance of victory as he seemed too fast.

One of the cars in front suddenly stopped moving completely on the s/f straight, due to disconnect obviously, but not wanting to take a risk of whether I could go through it or not, I managed to avoid it narrowly. Then it was Pelle up front I believe and we had a short battle for about a lap or two before I managed to get through.

By then the gap to Geoffers was more than 3 seconds and initially I could only barely keep up with him, then slightly reduce it by a few tenths, but then I made a big mistake going off and the gap increased to more than 4 seconds. Considering his pace, I thought that's it, no chance to win at all now, but I began to experiment with different lines through some corners and also lift up less doing gearshifts, almost completely speed-shifting. As a result, the gap began to go down gradually, but it was still not as quick as I needed.

Then Geoffers must have made a mistake because he was suddenly much closer, about 2 seconds and something, and with a couple of laps to go I realized it might actually be possible. Obviously the tires were getting worn out and it was particularly difficult on corner entry with the frontend pushing wide, so we both lost some overall pace, but I still managed to close in on him lap after lap.

When I finally got close enough for an attack, it proved to be much more difficult than I expected, and I had to wait for a whole lap before making an attack, but then Geoffers got back the lead at the end of the s/f straight. I followed him during the next lap and then we entered the last lap with him still in the lead, but I managed to pass him on the inside towards that long slow right-hander before the flat out chicane near the end of the lap. Although he got a better exit out of the corner, it wasn't enough and I managed to cross the line in first place.

Thanks for the great race, Geoffers, I was not expecting it and it really made me push to my limit. I'm looking forward to another race against you and the rest.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: SpecialKS on December 07, 2011, 09:21:33 AM +0000
Could have been a better one for me.

Was able to go the pace of Alex, Tony and Bill during the first laps, then had an off during a nice battle with Alex
which was my own fault and so lost connection to the competitors.
So I had my usual and lonely race at the end of the field. The track pleased me more and more and I was able to
set a new PB with 2.22.2.

Thanks again Tony for organizing this one and the whole season.

Not sure whether I can make the fun event on Thursday at Thermalito (announced over at GTLDK).
Have to fulfill some duties cause my mother got an artificial hip on Monday and is still in the hospital.

See you soon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Alex vV on December 07, 2011, 07:59:29 PM +0000

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/GTL/Mug2Dec11/)

Great action packed race 8)
Think all is said by WT and Eifel. Great battles with respect for each others machinery.
Best part of it all is that I could roll my Alfa back into the garage without a scratch.

Great stuff  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: BillThomas on December 08, 2011, 11:19:26 AM +0000
Thanks for organising the event and sorry for hitting you.

Lately I've been increasingly having difficulty in finding adequate time for my racing - on the night nothing clicked and I just couldn't concentrate so I reluctantly quit.

My racing is the most important part of my involvement with SimRacing, so I hope you'll excuse a lack of any forum posts.  I may or may not race if I'm not really with it (they're at my Horlicks again Tony) but when it's a "go go" night I'll drive through to the end or wrecking  my car.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 3 Make Challenge - Mugello (GP) - Dec 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 08, 2011, 12:41:39 PM +0000
No worries Bill Thomas now.

Always a pleasure racing with you  8)