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Title: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: EvilClive on July 04, 2011, 09:03:37 PM +0100
Round 6 and even further into the southern hemisphere armed with our with tinnies, barbies and looking out for the dunnies......Adelaide
This track with its long straight and twisting street circuit layout should test all drivers and cars

You all know the difficulties with the poor rear view in these cars so please be aware that the car in front maybe cannot see you and does not know you are there. Particularly on the first racing lap! The use of the "virtual mirror" may not be exactly historically accurate but it makes things a lot safer..it is your choice.


Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Sunday July 10th
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Adelaide
Race length = approx 50 minutes (34 laps)
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Intermediate (see rules below re resets)
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join the server.
Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=307;theme=6)

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

RED TEAM          HRISTO ITCHOV,  Evilclive, Paul Badblood 
 Chap 2F / Mirage / Porsche
                                                                 
BLUE TEAM        SAMB, Fulvio, Happy Al 
Chap 2F/ Lola/ Mirage

GREEN TEAM     ZACHARIA BLITO, Phil Thornton, Axel Cookie
Chapp 2F/ Ferrari P4 / Mirage

ORANGE TEAM        NIGEL SMITH, Tim FMG,Dave RAndall 
Ferrari P4 / Chapp 2D / Ford GT MK2.

GREY TEAM     Captained by Tim Vosblod who is looking after the part time drivers who cannot be sure to attend every race.

The cars for the Grey team for this season will be
Chapperal 2D
Mirage
Ford GT40 MK1

a NEW pink team HAS BEEN FORMED TO ACCOMODATE A FEW MORE OF THE TEMPORARY DRIVERS IN THIS SERIES

The Cars for the Pink Team are
Ferrari
Mk2 GT40
Porsche


All drivers must drive all 3 team cars at least 3 times. At the end of the 10 race championship any TEAM found to be in breach of this rule will have its BEST TEAM points result of the season cancelled. Each driver will drop his worst 2 results, in line with the other championships, this gets over the problem of missed races and 2 man teams looking for a sub at the last minute.

The events will be run on Intermediate damage and allow ONE Shift-R with a compulsory 10 second pit stop regardless of fault. (This means 10 seconds in your pitbox without moving). Any driver who fails to take a 10 second stop within 1 lap after a Shift-R, will be disqualified from the results. For this division the full moderation of lap one now applying across all divisions will include both the warm up lap and lap one proper.

Please check the Season 21 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=301&theme=6) regarding rules and the GT Team Challenge pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=307&theme=6) in particular.






Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 04, 2011, 11:08:07 PM +0100
To help everybody I have prepared a table of chassis usage. Any errors are entirely mine (there aren't any ;D ). Do not forget that you need to drive each chassis 3 times to avoid a points loss at the end of the season.

TeamDriverPorsche   Ferrari P330GT40 Mk1  GT40 MkIIB Mirage M1 Chap Mk2D Chap Mk2F
     Lola      
Races entered
Team RedHristo Itchov
1
0
0
0
3
0
1
0
5
Team RedEvilClive
1
0
0
0
2
0
2
0
5
Team RedBadBlood
3
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
4
Team BlueSamB
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
2
4
Team Bluefpolicardi
0
0
0
0
1
0
3
1
5
Team Bluehappyal
0
0
0
0
2
0
1
1
4
Team Bluenatan5 (for Al?)
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
1
Team Greenblito
0
2
0
0
1
0
2
0
5
Team GreenPhil Thornton
0
1
0
0
2
0
1
0
4
Team GreenCookie
0
2
0
0
1
0
2
0
5
Team OrangeNigel Smith
0
1
0
1
0
1
0
0
3
Team OrangeFullMetalGasket
0
1
0
2
0
1
0
0
4
Team OrangeDave Randall
0
1
0
1
0
2
0
0
4
Team Greyvosblod
0
0
1
0
1
0
0
0
2
Team GreyGeoff65
0
0
1
0
1
2
0
0
4
Team Greyjhalli
0
0
2
0
2
1
0
0
5
Team Greyb_1_rd
0
0
1
0
1
2
0
0
4
Team Pinkvosblod (as guest)
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
Team Pinks1273
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
1

Hope it helps. I'll update after each round.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: EvilClive on July 05, 2011, 08:23:20 AM +0100
Thanks for posting that Paul. I suggest every driver/team studies it and works out which cars they still must use.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: bernie on July 05, 2011, 08:37:20 AM +0100
Team Pink ? :D :D :D :D :D


Tart's  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: happyal on July 06, 2011, 09:20:27 AM +0100
natan5 stepped in for the Blue team when both myself and Sam could not make the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 06, 2011, 10:32:01 AM +0100
Yep, I know but he has used up a chassi so you have to nominate who he drove as so that the Chassis usage can be combined. Sam's choice I guess as Captain?

Same thing will happen when Geoff drives for Nigel. He will carry over Nigel's chassis usage.

You don't have to stick to the three chassis use each but if you don't the penalty will be way higher than any points Natan gained for you...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 06, 2011, 07:14:15 PM +0100
The chassis allocations can get quite complicated!!!!  I suggest it is a good idea to plan them out well in advance or you are likely to make a mistake.  No need to make it public like we have (see here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9382.msg170984#msg170984)) not that it matters much in my case ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 06, 2011, 07:16:25 PM +0100
The chassis allocations can get quite complicated!!!!  I suggest it is a good idea to plan them out well in advance or you are likely to make a mistake.  No need to make it public like we have (see here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9382.msg170984#msg170984)) not that it matters much in my case ;)

 ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Geoff65 on July 07, 2011, 07:54:53 PM +0100
Team Pink ? :D :D :D :D :D


Tart's  ;D


Yep, every last one of them.......


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 12:31:07 AM +0100
If I could race as well as I do pretty tables...

I had the Chap 2F which is a bit like giving a toddler scissors to play with...

Quite pleased with my qually and as Al was in a 2F as well I felt that there was a private battle going on. He beat me by half a second so one up to the Happy Man. In the race I felt a good start was key and I had a better line to T1. Green Flag - GO GO GO - Blimey that Ferrari is slow, oops bump, pit wall hello, everythings OK. WOW I've made up five places... what the... oh bugger. Rolling start D'oh.

Lap 2 - not so good but I did discover Al stuck on the haybales - hooray (sorry mate). Then I span and he caught right back up. I was finding the sharp turn at the end of the straight a real handful and Al was MUCH quicker there but I was quicker in other places. Just got to be calm - put the pressure on, concentrate - oh bugger I've spun. It was nice whilst it lasted.

Every time I thought, "...got to be calm..." it was followed by "Oh bugger". When Al came to pass me the first time I did have the unworthy thought that a short jab in the rear might cause us both to Shift-R but he'd already used his...  :devil: luckily Team Red have a better standard of manners than that :angel: and off he went. I then lost concentration really badly and started spinning every other lap or so. Prib was useless so I just kept parking up and letting 'em by and drove for the finish.

Disappointing really. But fun. and that the point. Well done Al. I'll get you one day. You and Nigel are my 'markers'...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Geoff65 on July 11, 2011, 07:18:13 AM +0100
Somebody should blow alarm clocks up! Mine at least is deserving of that 'honour' Sorry Tim and Dave, didn't wake to the alarm and missed the race.....Eyes flew open, stumbling round in the half light of pre-dawn getting dressed, forge onward to the computer. Boot it up expectantly and check how much time before the start. 06:58......06:58!!!!  Bugger. Hope it was fun.......:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: happyal on July 11, 2011, 09:34:44 AM +0100
I’d be lying if I said I enjoyed that, at several points during the race I nearly gave up.

This was my first race at Adelaide, and I’m sure it’s fun in the 65’s but I just couldn’t get my big 2F around the track. SO I went into Qualifying still trying to learn the track, braking points, turn in’s etc. I was fairly happy with my time as it was a little faster than I’ve been doing in off line practice.

The start of the race was a disaster for me, as Paul has already said I got it stuck in the hay bails at the end of the big straight on lap 1, the annoying thing is that I didn’t even brake late. I tried to reverse out but I couldn’t so I needed a shift & R. I looked for the pit lane, but missed it on the lap, so I took my 10 second penalty on the next lap. I normally practice going into the pits, but because I was having so many problems with the track I never did a pit lane check.

Getting back to the race, I was a mile behind Skymole and Badblood, I thought it would take a good 10 laps to catch up, but I saw both of them very soon after they had spins. I managed to over take both of them and start to pull a little lead, unfortunately I had a few spins about this time too. Myself and Paul had a little battle which ended when he span, and I finally managed a series of laps without spinning.

With about 10 laps to go I settled in for the finish, I knew that there was no chance of any more places so I took it easy. My lap time came down substantially at this point and about this time I started seeing Dave Rendell up ahead, he obviously had a few problems of his own. I managed to get onto the back of him with about 3 laps to go, we had a good battle, and I managed to get my nose ahead a few times, but Dave always managed to get me back on the undercut. I tried to save on last big push for the last lap, but had a small moment just before the straight and lost my chance.

At the end of the race my lap time was 3 to 4 seconds faster than I had been in practice and I think I had been trying too hard. I will remember that for the next race at this track. Well done to the rest of my team mates, if I can sort my silly spins out I might be able to collect a couple more points in the next 4 races.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: EvilClive on July 11, 2011, 10:18:27 AM +0100
After some last minute pre-race planning in the Red Team it was decided that Hristo would take the Mirage as his 4th drive of that car ( which means he cannot use that car again and must use the Porker or 2F from here on.) and I would use one of my remaining Porsche drives. Paul having missed one race is locked into using the 2F and the Mirage for the remaining races.

(I suggest that any team that has not planned their use of cars checks out their remaining races, because it gets quite critical as the season wears on. Remember, that you cannot both drive the same car in the same race so some forward planning might be a good idea?)

I had tried the Porker and the Mirage in some private practice and was happy with either, but was very surprised to find just how competitive the Porsche was around this track. I thought that the long straight would favour some of the muscle cars, but their advantage did not seem that great.
Hristo and Juha set some great qually laps and I found myself in 3rd spot as we rolled around for the start. For the first few laps it was easy to keep pace with Hristo and Juha ahead, losing just a little on the straight but easily making that back on braking and the run around to the S/F line.
Although I was quicker through the twisty bits, the grunt of Juha's Chap 2D meant he had the acceleration out of the slow corners and i could not get a clear chance of a pass even when I took a tight line and got alongside he would just outdrag me to the next corner :-\.

I needed a mistake and kept the pressure on but it was not Juha who made the error but Hristo!! exiting the chicane after the start line he clipped the wall and bounced back across the track collecting Juha on the way. I thought that I was through, but Hristo's pinball impression sent him back across the track and clipped me into the green stuff. When we all recovered Hristo was still in the lead I had inherited 2nd and Juha had dropped back in 3rd.
The next laps were a case of following Hristo who was not able to get away from my Porsche and I sensed the chance of a top step podium place ;)
Then there were some moments of team confusion (where radio communication would have been good) Hristo was pulling over to let me pass and I thought he was trying to confuse me lol. Then Hristo overcooked a bend and I was through and into the lead at the end of the straight with the whole of the twisty bit in my favour  ;D
By the time we reached the straight again I had pulled a nice gap and I think Hristo spun as he entered the straight and I was away and clear.  Juha moved into 2nd but was several seconds back and I found I could easily maintain the gap without risking anything until..........................
half way down the straight at max revs and the screen went BLACK!! but the sound continued correctly??!! I was just about to hit the "Escape" button when the picture re-appeared...just in time to see the concrete wall at the end of the straight a mere 2 metres ahead at 150mph!!!...BUMP! but miraculously no damage  ;D
Juha and Hristo swept through as I recovered along with some choice words and I was back in 3rd again. I easily closed the gap and sat on Juha's tail as he in turn hassled Hristo for a few laps. Then Juha got into a spin as we entered the straight.
 Unfortunately, the Porsche was able to take that corner flat in 2nd so that I entered the straight carrying as much speed as I possible to keep up with the faster cars and that was just what I was doing when my road was suddenly blocked by a rather large and sideways 2D!!! Sorry to Juha for bulldozing him skywards with my little Porker, but I could not avoid him.
Hristo was a couple of seconds ahead by now and I started to close the gap lap by lap until I could see him just a 150 metres ahead at some points. Plenty of laps left to catch him. Then..............another Black screen exiting the chicane!!! frantic hitting of space bar and random keys ( not sure if it did anything but the picture reappeared after some 5 secs and I was into the wall again!!)
That screwed any chance of catching H so I decided to cruise to the finish and 2nd spot...bad move! I relaxed my concentration and managed to impale myself on a haybale requiring shift-R to escape. Luckily Fulvio was far enough behind with 2 laps to go so that my 10 second stop did not lose me 2nd place.

Grats to Hristo and Fulvio for the podium and to all the other finishers.

From here on the season gets interesting as the car allocation begins to be important........ ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: jhalli on July 11, 2011, 10:50:36 AM +0100
A
Juha and Hristo swept through as I recovered along with some choice words and I was back in 3rd again. I easily closed the gap and sat on Juha's tail as he in turn hassled Hristo for a few laps. Then Juha got into a spin as we entered the straight.
 Unfortunately, the Porsche was able to take that corner flat in 2nd so that I entered the straight carrying as much speed as I possible to keep up with the faster cars and that was just what I was doing when my road was suddenly blocked by a rather large and sideways 2D!!! Sorry to Juha for bulldozing him skywards with my little Porker, but I could not avoid him.


yes np i was struggling on that wierd right hander corner everytime i passed it .  Unfortunately i did it once too fast and lost rear grip.

Chap2d feels quite okay to the track and i did improve my pb time,first race laps was maybe too exciting to me and was pressuring Hristo to errors, finally he did one after 1st shicane but i didnt get any benefit from it  :laugh:  Evil was driving back very close but he didnt have passing opportunities.

was frustrated after the accident and few laps later blew up my engine and retired. :P

grats Hristo

Juha


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: jhalli on July 11, 2011, 10:53:52 AM +0100
results table have minor error please correct , S2174 drived for Grey team  no Pink


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 11:23:26 AM +0100
Hmm. We started a Pink team because Sky had no team... now you tell me he is grey. This is getting very complicated. One for Clive I think.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: vosblod on July 11, 2011, 11:35:40 AM +0100
Hmm. We started a Pink team because Sky had no team... now you tell me he is grey. This is getting very complicated. One for Clive I think.
Well Geoff left us for a better offer ;) and Steve is temporarily MIA. Not sure of the position but guessing the Grey reserves need to be filled before we then fall back on the Pinks as second reserve?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 11, 2011, 11:55:54 AM +0100
That was such an exhausting race for me, I was almost completely drained at the end, not the least because of the very hot weather here, even if it was past 11 PM already...

I generally do very well at Adelaide and having raced the 2F and Porsche in the past, setting times in the 1:30-1:31 range, I expected that I could bring the Mirage within a small margin to those times. How wrong I turned out to be though!!!

The car was handling awfully, both in corners, where it would snap around without any warning, and when running over curbs, where it would pogo too much, scraping the ground, going sideways and what not. I thought it's probably too soft and low, so I stiffened it up, especially bump and rebounds, and also raised the suspension, but to no avail. It improved a bit, but there were still places where, if I didn't go through exactly the same speed, line and angle on each lap, it would cause me lots of grief and I had to turn the steering like a madman to catch the car, as well as do a lot of pedals work to balance to constantly changing weight distribution. For the moment, I obviously suck at setting up some of these cars or maybe I was simply over-driving the Mirage in my attempt to compensate for its lack of grip.  ::)

At one point during Qualifying I had Evil right behind and he was putting up a lot of pressure, so that helped me focus better and with the aid of some minor slipstream from other cars in front, who luckily got out of the way, I managed to set my pole time. Juha apparently set an identical one, at least down to the hundred of a second, but second is what he got, so I led off on our rolling lap.

I made some changes to the setup just before the start, so it was a bit of a gamble, but it didn't really make much of a difference and after going cautiously on the first lap to get a feeling for the heavier chassis and to let the mechanical and rubber parts warm up, it started behaving as bad as in Qualifying once I pushed it harder. And I really had to, because it was obvious I was holding up Juha, but he couldn't really find a way to get past as I was always getting the better exits in the place that matter, particularly the corner leading on the backstraight. I could also brake a little later for the hairpin, so for a while it looked like I might be able to hold Juha up, as long as I didn't make big mistakes.

He was very aggressive though and I had to keep looking at my mirrors to make sure he has not dived on the inside, because he constantly made false attacks by going to the side and then braking slightly later, especially in T1 and the 90 degree corners. With him in my blind spot, I had no option but to go a bit wider and then that compromised both of us on the exit, allowing Evil to catch up. I was getting a bit frustrated after a couple of laps going like this, and after another such false attack by Juha as we entered T1, I lost control and hit the wall on the exit, which then sent me back to the left side of the track and it led to a collision between myself and Juha.

I was the first one to recover and continued in the lead, and I couldn't really tell if the car was damaged or not, but the handling neither seemed to improve nor get worse.  :D It was now Evil's turn to put pressure and if I thought Juha was quick, I wasn't really prepared for the speed difference of the Porsche vs. my Mirage in the corners. After a few laps of blatantly holding up Evil, I decided to just let him go through and try to keep up with him using the slipstream, and hopefully be able to improve my pace and make an attack near the end. Evil misinterpreted my going off the line and we both lifted up together, lol, but then I ran wide at the hairpin and he was through. He began to pull away a little bit, but at least I had no one to trouble me now and could just concentrate on finding a way to drive the car more efficiently.

That never came to be as I lost the car soon after and dropped a couple of seconds back, with Juha now having gone up to 2nd. Surprisingly and perhaps having gotten used a bit to the weird handling of the Mirage, I managed to reel him in, though slowly, and we had a very good chase for a few laps. Within those few laps, Evil seemed to disappear from the lead and what was a battle for 2nd suddenly became a battle for 1st! I eventually made a bit of a risky dive in the braking zone for the hairpin, but just managed to slow on time to keep my car on the inside and complete the move - back into the lead now!

Once I was in front, Juha somehow found his speed again, or maybe it was down to slipstream, but the intense pressure from the opening laps was to be experienced again, with Evil (again) closing up on both of us after apparently having returned to our dimension. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for Juha, he made a mistake after a few laps and was flipped over by Evil who couldn't avoid him, so I gained a couple of seconds lead as Evil must've managed to continue without any big delay.

By the time the fuel load went down and after trying to decipher the car for the whole race, I managed to speed up a little and do some consistent quick laps, which was enough to maintain the gap to Evil and then even increase it once he dropped back again because of his issues. The fastest lap right on the last one was probably more telling of what potential the Mirage has, if set up properly, but there was no way I could do those sorts of times consistently. I also just had Fulvio in sight and tried to lap him, but he just escaped into his last lap as I took the chequered flag!  ;D

Grats to Team Red for the 1-2! And commiserations to Juha after his very strong drive.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 12:23:49 PM +0100
OK Tim - I'll change that.

Please note that Team Red only deal in ones and twos which is why to complement the boys 1-2 finish I hovered around twelth (12) and finished eleventh (11)  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 11, 2011, 12:25:07 PM +0100
OK Tim - I'll change that.

Please note that Team Red only deal in ones and twos which is why to complement the boys 1-2 finish I hovered around twelth (12) and finished eleventh (11)  ;D

Sorry, Paul, then it's a 1-2-11!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Samb on July 11, 2011, 12:42:01 PM +0100
Terrible race for me. Couldn't set up the Mirage properly and had more spins and red-faced moments than I care to remember. Had a nice battle with Jason for most of the race that sadly turned sour with a couple of laps to go. That coming together demoted me from 4th to 7th and I couldn't find a way past Phil on the final lap. Some terrific defending there Phil.

Well done to H for managing to tame that flaming Mirage. Congrats to Clive and Fulvio for making the podium as well. It can only get better at the next race!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: s2173 on July 11, 2011, 12:48:20 PM +0100
results table have minor error please correct , S2174 drived for Grey team  no Pink

If you can call that driving... ::)

Its obvious im missing something about gt's...just tried ferrari and best i could do was 1.40... thats patetic.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Geoff65 on July 11, 2011, 12:51:11 PM +0100
Hmm. We started a Pink team because Sky had no team... now you tell me he is grey. This is getting very complicated. One for Clive I think.
Well Geoff left us for a better offer ;) and Steve is temporarily MIA. Not sure of the position but guessing the Grey reserves need to be filled before we then fall back on the Pinks as second reserve?

Correct, all except the part about leaving for a better offer. What, ...leave? and miss out on all the team perks. Like palfreys from the Ceremonial Gundy, and virtual beer, as much as you can drink.......virtually..:) Now, what's the better offer?
 I brokered the deal in chat with Juha and Sky, then PM'd the outcome immediately.....too Tim I think. Should have CC'd one to Evil and Paul too I guess, sorry gents. For the very reason that the Grey Team ranks should be filled before the Pink team gets a run.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: EvilClive on July 11, 2011, 01:00:48 PM +0100
You did PM me Geoff and I am inclined to allow Sky to race in the Grey Team for the very reason that you have said.

The Grey Team is the overflow to cope with the part timers and the Pink Team was added to cover any sudden influx of part timers above the 3 in the Grey Team.

 But, I need to liaise with Paul and look at how this screws up the points allocation table :-\ if drivers swap teams like this.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 02:09:39 PM +0100
OK Tim - I'll change that.

Please note that Team Red only deal in ones and twos which is why to complement the boys 1-2 finish I hovered around twelth (12) and finished eleventh (11)  ;D

Sorry, Paul, then it's a 1-2-11!  ;D

Actually, if ever we get 1 to 11 there might be an inquiry ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 02:11:37 PM +0100
But, I need to liaise with Paul and look at how this screws up the points allocation table :-\ if drivers swap teams like this.

No need - I will sort that out - adds a bit of work on the grid but I will amalgamate records where necessary. So Sky(grey) will amalgamate with Geoff for Grey and Natan will amalgamate with... somebody!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Dave Randall on July 11, 2011, 02:25:34 PM +0100
Feeling very despondent after another awful performance.  Took the Ford Mk2 which tends to feel like it has a multiple cracked chassis and reminds me of a kart I once drove with exactly that, which would flex and buck and make you look like a right charlie as you'd randomly veer off the circuit!

I deluded myself that I had it tamed in off-line practice though when prib showed I had potential for 1:36's and the bucking seemed to abate after I tried some radically soft settings.  Only just managed to get into 1:38's for qually though with the car back to feeling as awful as ever.

At the start of the formation lap I was rammed by someone, Al maybe?  who went on to cause some more confusion up the road before he obviously remembered it was a rolling start and sheepishly dropped back!  :) Started quite soon to drop off the top 9 but made some distance behind me but then l I went wide at the start of the straight to let my team mate Tim through after an off, only to hit the angled bales!  It then did not get better for some time until the last few laps when I realised that Al had taken advantage of my incompetence and closed right up.  Being in a bad mood I was even more determined that I would not lose another place and we had some great racing for a few laps until his slight mistake gave me enough breathing space to finish ahead.

Apart from those last few laps I have to say that it was one of the least enjoyable races I've been in.  So far off the pace, the car felt so unpredictable, PC became very stuttery and to be honest the only thing that made me continue was the team aspect.  Not sure I'll do another season in GT's unless I discover some revelation that enables me to drive them to something resembling competence!  

Congratulations to H and podium and of course to Tim for a good recovery for 4th.





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: happyal on July 11, 2011, 04:00:29 PM +0100
At the start of the formation lap I was rammed by someone, Al maybe?  

Not guilty (for a change) I think Paul, just above, said he shot off at the start.

PC became very stuttery and to be honest the only thing that made me continue was the team aspect.  

Agreed to both of these points too, not sure why it became so stuttery on my PC, but it was an annoying problem that came and went at serval points during the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: blito on July 11, 2011, 07:35:01 PM +0100
Terrible race for me. Couldn't set up the Mirage properly and had more spins and red-faced moments than I care to remember. Had a nice battle with Jason for most of the race that sadly turned sour with a couple of laps to go. That coming together demoted me from 4th to 7th and I couldn't find a way past Phil on the final lap. Some terrific defending there Phil.


Sorry about that Sam, I just was way too late on the brakes and had to aim the car at the bit of track where you wasn't... Anything else would have been a disaster! As it was I almost made it round but struck the bales on the exit and bounced into you.... Again, I can only apologise for my silly mistake!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 11, 2011, 10:34:16 PM +0100
Many apologies Dave and yes - it was a very sheepish dropping back...  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 11, 2011, 11:11:39 PM +0100
Terrible race for me. Couldn't set up the Mirage properly and had more spins and red-faced moments than I care to remember. Had a nice battle with Jason for most of the race that sadly turned sour with a couple of laps to go. That coming together demoted me from 4th to 7th and I couldn't find a way past Phil on the final lap. Some terrific defending there Phil.
A good race for me, I finished for a change albeit a lap down.  There was plenty of action the whole race long, I just kept trying to bridge the gap to the cars in front and it eventually paid off when I managed to benefit from Sam's bad luck.  The penultimate lap was a bit tricky, I had Clive closing in to lap me with Sam close on his gearbox so I had to find a place to let Clive by without being jumped by Sam.  Managed to let Clive by at the last corner but it was only the power of the Ferrari accelerating down the start/finish straight that kept Sam at bay.  The last lap was full on pressure, Sam was clearly quicker than me so I had to drive a defensive line to force him to go the long way round.  Managed to keep my position (fairly I hope although I could have given Sam a little more room at the tight left hander - turn 3) and secured some good points for Team Green.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Cookie on July 12, 2011, 09:53:12 AM +0100
well...

I could also complain about the Mirage, wich is in my opinion the least car I would choose for this track  ::)
I don't like this track as I hate this short 90° corners, the worst is the kink and the following right with the bump everybody knows.
But this is racing in a team! So I made the Mirage as good as possible for me...
The Mirage is pretty competitive but needs all the time 100% of concentration.
Yes it still is unforgiving for the smallest mistake, and I did some.

Start was ok, was laughing when I saw this Waza Chap storming from the grid  ;D
Then I kept position behind my well driving green teammates.
Defended my position to an upcoming Tim who had his moment after he missed the chicane in first racing lap, where I could just avoid to be taken out.
We had a big battle, as I was better out of the corners and under braking, but the speed was his strenght. Must have make him wild...  ::)
Think I have to apologize for the contact we had after the hairpin to the following lefthander, I saw the outbraking rear and had to take that chance!
Later Tim got me in a clean pass.
The rest of the race I kept wrestling my car to the finish line.

This was the hardest race I ever did! Was totally wet and needed a long shower afterwards to cool down ;D

Greetings
:chef:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 12, 2011, 10:47:00 AM +0100
Yeh OK - Can we stop mentioning my start.... :laugh:

I have changed Sky to a Grey which should see the wrinklies shoot up the table... not!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Dave Randall on July 12, 2011, 01:57:10 PM +0100
Yeh OK - Can we stop mentioning my start.... :laugh:

No problem, in retrospect your start was one of the highlights of my race!  ;)

Ok, can we all please stop mentioning it..  Badblood doesn't want to keep being reminded of his silly mistake where he went charging to the front bouncing off other cars going bewilderingly slowly, before eventually realising that his wasn't simply a staggeringly good start and had to crawl back to where he came from!  hehe  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: vosblod on July 12, 2011, 02:12:04 PM +0100
Ok, can we all please stop mentioning it..  Badblood doesn't want to keep being reminded of his silly mistake where he went charging to the front bouncing off other cars going bewilderingly slowly, before eventually realising that his wasn't simply a staggeringly good start and had to crawl back to where he came from!  hehe  ;D
You didn't go past cars on the warm up lap did you Paul? You would never see me do that ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 12, 2011, 02:13:03 PM +0100
If Evil hadn't mentioned about the rolling start just before we hit the grid (he seems to be doing that in every GT race and I'm always thankful, lol), I would've made a normal start and pulled away, probably thinking the rest must've had an accident or something.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Geoff65 on July 12, 2011, 02:15:46 PM +0100
You'rrre a harsh laddie, Dave Randell


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 12, 2011, 07:25:15 PM +0100
You should've dived in on the default setup if there were only 6 mins to go geoff - That's what I was left with at the start when GPL miraculously ignored the setup I'd spent all practice honing  :cursing:

This is also the reason for my first lap fail at the chicane - my own setup would happy bounce across the chicane 2 wheels at a time - the default mearly rotated the car as it continued on it's original course  :(

Quite pleased with 4th considering how bad the car was to drive - but I should have been fighting the front runners based on qually pace (All done on full tanks)

Well done for soldiering on home Dave, the Mk2's horrible when it's bad - but at least you fought it all the way to the flag  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: Dave Randall on July 12, 2011, 11:44:02 PM +0100
You'rrre a harsh laddie, Dave Randell

Harsh?!?!  :o  I took the Mk2, so you could have the Ferrari, which you found so comfortable you took to sleeping in instead of racing for your new Team!!

Have a word with our leader as I believe Tim has some very good setups for alarm clocks  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: BadBlood on July 13, 2011, 04:16:08 PM +0100
Lol - I just knew that passing more than one car off the line meant that something was wrong! The masterful way in which I worked my way to the back again in half a lap is something I usually reserve for the race proper... :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: EvilClive on July 23, 2011, 11:36:31 AM +0100
Moderation done.

On to Zeltweg 71  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Adelaide (GP) - Jul 10
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 23, 2011, 08:37:17 PM +0100
I didn't have a stopwatch - I was counting elephants in my head  :laugh: