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Title: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 11, 2011, 10:02:34 PM +0100
All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 (20 mins)
Qual 2:       20:20 (20 mins) - note: Limited lap qual - Only the first 2 flying laps count. (It's part of the Mod)
Race:          20:40 (60 minutes) - note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any car from SuperGT Mod v3.0 - Available to download from here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SQG3QEAT) - We will also be using the UKGTR GT500 skin pack v2.14.0.1. Available HERE  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_sgt500)

Track: Silverstone GP (Northampton) v1.0.0.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_silverstone)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable based on real world conditions
NOTE UPDATE - Weather forecast
Race
 Start Weather: Light rain
 Start On line: Minimal dampness
 Start Off line: Minimal dampness
 Ambient: 19.00
 Track: 25.21
 Early Conditions:  Light rain
 Mid Race Conditions:  Light rain
 Late Race Conditions:  Light rain

Tyre wear: x2
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: simracing.org.uk UE
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=270;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.




Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: lazlow on July 12, 2011, 10:40:45 AM +0100
Quote
Weather: Changeable based on real world conditions
That will be raining then :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: SRW on July 13, 2011, 10:32:07 PM +0100
had a chance to start practicing for sundays race tonight (a luxury for me at the moment...lol) did about 25 laps, started with default setup and started finetuning setup (gear ratios and camber) got down to 1:43.8. Anyone got any tips for a base setup for diff & suspension for the maclaren as i struggle to know what direction to go in


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Truetom on July 13, 2011, 11:33:40 PM +0100
Dude, these cars feel all the same to me. :D I just take my setup from a track I was most comfy with, try it and tweak wings, springs, toe and gearing. :) Usually takes just a few laps if you start from the balanced setup. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 14, 2011, 01:39:51 AM +0100
Hey folks i am looking for a GTR2 league are you still accepting participants??


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Truetom on July 14, 2011, 07:18:53 AM +0100
Always. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 14, 2011, 04:09:04 PM +0100
great well ill get the car pack downloaded and try out them and see which one and ill see you the race after next as i am not able to be their this sunday.

Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: nsfast on July 14, 2011, 06:43:11 PM +0100
had a chance to start practicing for sundays race tonight (a luxury for me at the moment...lol) did about 25 laps, started with default setup and started finetuning setup (gear ratios and camber) got down to 1:43.8. Anyone got any tips for a base setup for diff & suspension for the maclaren as i struggle to know what direction to go in

I've used the same setup in the Supra for the last few races. Just changing the gear ratios.

If its any help the only changes i've made to the default are:

Steering lock 23%, lower ride height front and back, power diff 25%, softer springs/ARB at the front & harder springs/arb at the back.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 15, 2011, 02:58:13 AM +0100
Hey guys I have tested all the cars and my first choice is the Honda HSV 010 GT 2010 second choice is the Aston 3rd choice is the Nissan GTR.

Please let me know which car I am able to use so I can get a skin made.

Chears.

P.S. Is there any official signup procedure??

Chears.

John.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Truetom on July 15, 2011, 08:18:43 AM +0100
No complications John, take any car you like, but the skin is visible with an official add-on if I'm correct. Race allows custom skins individualy, GTR2 doesn't. Don't know, does a missmatch appear here?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 15, 2011, 01:03:34 PM +0100
Ok im confused lol. are you saying that the skin wont work online?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: SRW on July 15, 2011, 01:25:05 PM +0100
thanks for the tips NSFAST,

I have tried fiddling around with the diff settings before, and to be honest i struggle to feel much difference in handling when i set it from one extreme to the other!

But when i tried setting the front springs/ARB soft and the rear hard it really made a difference! i will definately be using these variables to setup my car in future


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: spanner on July 15, 2011, 08:25:18 PM +0100
No complications John, take any car you like, but the skin is visible with an official add-on if I'm correct. Race allows custom skins individualy, GTR2 doesn't. Don't know, does a missmatch appear here?

Gawd TT your confusing me!

Hi John. We normally do a skin pack at the beginning of a season and possibly an update mid season  as i gets messy with people not having the right skins, so your'll have to make do with the default skin for this race, as its our last of the season. You can run whatever car you want though in a season there is a penalty for changing cars, there is no registration as we dont quite push the limits of a full grid nowadays.

Hope to see you for future races.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: spanner on July 15, 2011, 09:18:22 PM +0100
Rather bizarrly the track isnt installed on the server.....

EDIT: all up and running, now i remember the x2 settings!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 16, 2011, 04:04:20 AM +0100
ok cool like i say i wont be able to make this sunday because of work but i dont normally work a sunday so will be able to make 90% of future races.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: spanner on July 16, 2011, 10:21:06 AM +0100
Managed to get into the 42's just, last night. 43's normally.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 16, 2011, 07:16:48 PM +0100
Hey guys I have tested all the cars and my first choice is the Honda HSV 010 GT 2010 second choice is the Aston 3rd choice is the Nissan GTR.

Please let me know which car I am able to use so I can get a skin made.

You can take any car from the mod. :)

To add a skin you will have to wait until I organise a skin pack up date. I will post a message in the UKGTR announcements section to let everyone know when I sort it out. Hopefully that will be some time next few weeks.

P.S. Is there any official signup procedure??

No but, we have an official procedure for adding a skin which is why you will have to wait for a skin pack update I am afraid. Feel free to show up for the races with no registration needed and no restrictions on car choice from the given class.

I hope this helps. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 16, 2011, 07:25:46 PM +0100
I have reloaded the server with a weather file generated using the weatherGen system using real conditions.

It was set to 30% chance of light rain (as forecast at 7pm ish) and ambient temp of 19 degrees (as forecast at 1pm - 4pm).

The system made a file that had no rain in the end so if anyone wants me to generate a file that definitely has some rain then let me know. :) There is currently only a 20% chance of rain tomorrow night so it will probably be a dry race.

If anyone downloaded my June 2011 version of the waetherGen system and had an error when running it, it was because you needed a fully up to date version of Windows to run it but, I have removed that dependency in a July 2011 version, no other changes were made so no need to get July 2011 version if you have June 2011 and it works.

I have managed to get a few laps in the 42s but, I suspect some people may be going faster.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 16, 2011, 08:21:04 PM +0100
The chance of rain for tomorrow has gone up again. Good old English weather. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Truetom on July 16, 2011, 09:59:33 PM +0100
 :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 17, 2011, 07:34:14 PM +0100
Weather forecast generated, see first post.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Jamera on July 17, 2011, 08:57:53 PM +0100
What a waste of time. Apex was warping all over the place, hit him 3 times where he suddenly appeared stationary in front of me. Saw him off the track and I moved up to 7th, then he reappears in front of me and I'm in 8th, then he disappears and when I go through the place he was I'm catapulted up and race over


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Manteos on July 17, 2011, 09:15:24 PM +0100
What a waste of time. Apex was warping all over the place, hit him 3 times where he suddenly appeared stationary in front of me. Saw him off the track and I moved up to 7th, then he reappears in front of me and I'm in 8th, then he disappears and when I go through the place he was I'm catapulted up and race over

Quote :(
It's impossible to race in this conditions apex... I guess that I was the fourth guy involved in one of your extremely frequent lags... You were appearing and disappearing every 3-4 seconds and that isn't good for the fun of the other people on track.
Luckily I didn't train so much for this race...

Cu


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: phspok on July 17, 2011, 09:35:12 PM +0100
A good event spoilt by lag related crashes which put me into the fence and lost splitter so was dog slow up to the pits
and also pointless rain. Why do we insist on making it more "challenging" Seemed like the rain was intermittent
so took softs, then it stopped so took meds at my early stop, and it peed it down,  very dissapointing.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: APEXTECHUSA on July 17, 2011, 10:13:16 PM +0100
What a waste of time. Apex was warping all over the place, hit him 3 times where he suddenly appeared stationary in front of me. Saw him off the track and I moved up to 7th, then he reappears in front of me and I'm in 8th, then he disappears and when I go through the place he was I'm catapulted up and race over
sorry mate my deepest i didnt want ruin your race or others


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Legzy on July 17, 2011, 10:16:09 PM +0100
Started race with soft fronts & med rears, which is what I qualified with & they felt good in the early conditions, though I started making a couple of half spin errors as my car got more oversteery on corner entry due to wear/extra water. 20-25 mins in, it seemed to start raining harder & so I pitted.
What tyre though :-\
Decided to go with inters front & back & after 1.5 laps I was regretting it :o. They felt more grippy, but I was noticeably way slower than pre-pitting & they were pretty much all in the red overheating already ::) >:(
Decided to keep going with them & see what others were doing pitting/laptime wise, but then there was thunder & everyone who hadn't pitted did so. I was gutted, figuring they'd all probably put hard wets on & be on the right tyre for the conditions :'(. I took the lead at this point, with TT exiting the pits 7.5 secs behind.
But about a lap later the rain had reduced again & the inters were perfect, TT was gaining on me about 0.5 per lap, but I figured I'd have 2nd in the bag. :)

With 15 mins to go, I'd managed to maintain the gap to TT & then the rain stopped. Decide that I'll pit for my original tyres to finish the race as I can't imagine the conditions will change again... lost a few secs as I fiddled with XD setting the right tyres etc & just as I'm bracing to turn into the pits, the rain starts up again :laugh:.
So obviously I stayed out & from there i started to eek open the gap back to TT, who I guess was struggling with tyres by then?

Happy to have my 1st win in a loooooooong time, but it was certainly down to luck more than judgement :laugh:. Congrats to the rest of the podium & the other finishers.

Regardless of the win, I was actually losing interest in the race till the proper rain showed up (i.e. 20-25 mins in). We were down to only six cars, nobody to race & the rain just took me out of the comfort zone & forced a pitstop on me, the heavier rain gave me something to focus on & I thought that these cars handled the rain better than anything (other than PnG cars) we've ever used. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 17, 2011, 10:22:13 PM +0100
Results and replay in the usual places


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 17, 2011, 10:29:59 PM +0100
Fun and difficult race for me.

I stupidly decided to put more medium dry tyres when I pitted half way through as they had worked well in the first half of the race. Lazlow and spanner told me to stay out out to see what happens before pitting but, I was reluctant to change my fuel strategy and recalculate while on track. The rain of course got heavier and I had to make a 2nd stop for inters. I had a good chase with nsfast in the first half of the race who was keeping me under pressure. I was on a mission to catch Legzy and TT after my 2nd stop but, it was not to be. :(

I luckily managed to get the championship win due to nsfast having more problems than me. :)

Sorry to hear about the lag issues.


Driving in that championship was definitely fun for me, well done all and thanks for showing up. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: spanner on July 17, 2011, 11:08:11 PM +0100
Another one taken out by Apex here on the first lap. Came out of Bridge to see a frozen Apex who should have been running behind me. Two weeks in a row i've not got to the finish :(

Sorry apex, it was decided after you effectively took out 4 or 5 of us with the massive warping then frozen car that it wasnt safe.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 17, 2011, 11:33:16 PM +0100
OK guys a PM has been sent to the driver in question regarding the lag issues. He did not do this on purpose remember, it is more of a case of not being able to let him know that his lag was so bad I believe.

Remember all, try to do your best to keep your net connections in a stable state during race events and we ask that drivers allow in game chat during races in case of any important server messages please. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Truetom on July 18, 2011, 08:07:27 AM +0100
It was interesting to dodge Apex' car on the track. :D Hope it gets sorted out for you, buddy. :)
That was a proper changing weather alright. :P Started on slick meds and when H@l and nsfast pitted I was tempted...  :D ... but the tyres didn't really cool down yet and were worn under 20. A lap or two later it started to rain more and I pitted, took hard wets and was off. At first I started to catch Legzy, then the rain stopped and the tyres started to overheat. Was looking for wet patches of the track but it didn't help much, fronts were frequently above 150'C. Had to slow down, then H@l started to catch. Fortunately the race was ending and I managed to keep my second with a few seconds gap. :) Didn't even think of inters, never use them. Seems like they were the right choice yesterday. :-\ Well, grats to H@l for the title and nsfast for 2nd. Interesting season, this mod enabled some of the best close racing in GTR2. Hear that, MJ? :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Mark J on July 18, 2011, 08:16:50 AM +0100
m'eh, jap GT cars just dont do it for me. Tried the mod, thought it seemed a bit rough round the edges and the non-jap cars uncompetitive, so nothing that grabbed me unfortunately. Was tempted a few times as you ran some great tracks in the season.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: SRW on July 18, 2011, 01:25:36 PM +0100
interesting race, took a lot of concentration to keep it on the blackstuff for a whole hour!
I planned to make a pitstop for new boots at half distance, but as it approached i was slipping around a lot more, i wasnt sure whether this was more to do with the rain increasing or the tyres deteriorating, in the end i decided to put hard wets on instead of another set of slicks, which luckily seems to have been the right choice.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: nsfast on July 18, 2011, 07:18:47 PM +0100
Almost a perfect race.  :(

Qualifying was all about decoding H@l's message at the start - "conditions in qual and race will the same as practice". In the practice session the track was dry in the last six minutes and therefore that was the time to go out. I felt sorry for those who missed this and went out early when the track was damp.

I knew I needed an unlikely win to have any chance of winning the championship and was pleased to qualify P2 just behind H@L. I went for meds at the start which seemed the correct choice and was able to stay in touch with H@l in the first half of the race. In the last two laps before the half way mark I started to lose a lot of grip and tyre temperature on the meds and made a good decision to pit as usual but go onto hard wets for the 2nd half.

Then I made a terrible error. The wets seemed to heat up very qucikly and for some reason the conditions seemed to briefly improve. Convinced I'd made a mistake I went straight back into the pits to swap onto slicks again.  ::) As the tyres were being put on the sky darkened and my race was over. I went out with no grip and had to pit again to go back onto wets....ahh. To add insult I hit the pit wall for another 40sec of repairs.

I went back out to finish the race and briefly had some good laps with SRW.  :)

Congrats to Legzy on the win and H@l for the championship. Thanks for organising H@l. I've had some great races with these cars this season.  ;D

Please go easy on my teammate Apex for lag. Apex is very fair and clean racer and normally has no issues with his connection :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: APEXTECHUSA on July 18, 2011, 11:01:12 PM +0100
Almost a perfect race.  :(

Qualifying was all about decoding H@l's message at the start - "conditions in qual and race will the same as practice". In the practice session the track was dry in the last six minutes and therefore that was the time to go out. I felt sorry for those who missed this and went out early when the track was damp.

I knew I needed an unlikely win to have any chance of winning the championship and was pleased to qualify P2 just behind H@L. I went for meds at the start which seemed the correct choice and was able to stay in touch with H@l in the first half of the race. In the last two laps before the half way mark I started to lose a lot of grip and tyre temperature on the meds and made a good decision to pit as usual but go onto hard wets for the 2nd half.

Then I made a terrible error. The wets seemed to heat up very qucikly and for some reason the conditions seemed to briefly improve. Convinced I'd made a mistake I went straight back into the pits to swap onto slicks again.  ::) As the tyres were being put on the sky darkened and my race was over. I went out with no grip and had to pit again to go back onto wets....ahh. To add insult I hit the pit wall for another 40sec of repairs.

I went back out to finish the race and briefly had some good laps with SRW.  :)

Congrats to Legzy on the win and H@l for the championship. Thanks for organising H@l. I've had some great races with these cars this season.  ;D

Please go easy on my teammate Apex for lag. Apex is very fair and clean racer and normally has no issues with his connection :)
thanks nsfast if i knew my connection was bad i would not even join but the cable company said they have to come and fix it tomorrow i hate that i caused so much harm  i love racing here this is the best leaugue for me but if im not wanted i understand hope to have a clean connection and be back amongest u guys i feel bad i saw the replay and im guilty as charged so im willing to take my punishment wow sorry guys


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: APEXTECHUSA on July 18, 2011, 11:05:37 PM +0100
grats to hal, nsfast and truetom for top 3 spots this series is the best mod for me i hope we will run it again soon


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Jamera on July 19, 2011, 12:26:32 AM +0100
Apex, as one of the guys affected by your connection problems I would just like to say S*** happens, yeah I was gutted last night, but in the great scheme of things and all that.
 I too had cable connection problems at the beginning of the year which lasted months  >:( but they are sorted now and I'm back racing  :jumpjoy:

I think the rest of the guys would agree with me that the last thing we want is to lose a regular racer, so fingers crossed for the cable guy tomorrow  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: Legzy on July 19, 2011, 12:43:19 PM +0100
Jamera is quite correct Apex. But do please make sure text is enabled while driving :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: APEXTECHUSA on July 19, 2011, 11:40:54 PM +0100
Apex, as one of the guys affected by your connection problems I would just like to say S*** happens, yeah I was gutted last night, but in the great scheme of things and all that.
 I too had cable connection problems at the beginning of the year which lasted months  >:( but they are sorted now and I'm back racing  :jumpjoy:

I think the rest of the guys would agree with me that the last thing we want is to lose a regular racer, so fingers crossed for the cable guy tomorrow  :thumbup2:
yea cable guy came by fixed it i should be fine and i will enable the in game chat thanks guys see yall on sunday


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 21, 2011, 03:00:46 PM +0100
Hey guys am i correct in saying that this is the end of the season??


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: H@L9000 on July 21, 2011, 03:14:42 PM +0100
Hey guys am i correct in saying that this is the end of the season??

Yes but, we do have races going on every Sunday until season 15 starts, this Sunday we have a fun race on a 1994 version Imola with GT1 cars:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9679#event2819

We do fun races with a shorter race length than the championship races and the results for a fun race are stored short term on this web site where as the results for the championship races are stored long term.

We could be using the SuperGT500 cars again next season but, I have yet to finalise that decision. I will be starting some discussion threads soon regarding season 15. I may do a fun race with SuperGT cars before season 15 starts as well.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 14 Upper Endurance (GT500) - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - Jul 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on July 21, 2011, 03:28:24 PM +0100
ok great ill see you on sunday then