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At the halfway mark Fulvio leads the Works, but only just, and the Championship is still wide open. In Privateers Ronnie has a gap but it is not insurmountable.

The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 17-07-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Lakeside 67
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 53)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=302&theme=6) or Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=303&theme=6) championship standings pages.
The track can be downloaded from : link is currently down but Mike has kindly made it available here - http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/%23Circuits/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/%23Circuits/)
Add-on’s available at : n/a

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The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=302&theme=6) or Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=303&theme=6) championship standings pages. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

There are two 67 Championships, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers

Arf Arf Arf	Baab	Beefpie
Evil Clive	Fulvio Policardi	Tim FMG
Hristo Itchov	ivandjj	John Roberts
Rick Nauman	Sam B	Tom van O
Jethro W	Karliss (R)	Will Tway (R)
Goran Jonsson (R)

PRIVATEERS drivers

Bernie	Billy	Blito
Hannah	Fabio L	Mike T
Mike (miner)	Nigel Smith	Ronnie P
Ross N	Skymole 2173	Vosblod
Paul (Badblood) (R)	Steve Bird (R)	Happy Al (R)
PaulWBird (R)	Martin (Maddog)	Geoff Heard

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

REPLAYS
Privateers server replays will be posted in the usual place after the event. Works will now be posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ (http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/) . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.

Lakeside Park, formerly known as Lakeside International Raceway is a motor racing circuit located at Pine Rivers 18.6 miles north of Brisbane and lies adjacent to Lake Kurwongbah. The circuit was the venue for a wide range of racing series including the Australian Grand Prix on two occasions, playing host to such names as Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, Jack Brabham, Graham Hill and Chris Amon.
Although national championship racing was still being held at the circuit in July 2001 declining revenues, mounting debts, court proceedings, an increasingly hostile local council and competition for events with the nearby Queensland Raceway led to the circuits closure that same year, although the circuit re-opened during 2008 strictly as a local racing venue.

Have we ever run a circuit with a shorter lap?

I'm slow and I'm in the 56s at times.

I wonder how many laps I will lose by.............

Yeah, Falkenberg, around 40 seconds lap.

My prediction: Anyone who can run consistently in the 56's and stay on track for this Privateers race is a definite podium finish if not winner, notwithstanding interference from any backmarkers having to pass backmarkers in a respectful and fair manner.

In recent races the willingness of backmarkers to move out of the way has been rather poor, so this will be a good opportunity for the backmarkers to show they now know how it's done. However, I don't think the problem will be as big for the works division as we're very close performance wise this season and the driving in this division has been exceptionally fair to date :) (knock on wood).

Tommie.

Hi all,

It is now time for me to do my yearly appearance in the mighty 67,s, due to my vacation, and this time I will make two races so be aware  :P

Göran

PS. I did vote in the poll for less than 75%.

You have been processed Goran.

Thanks Vos, now I only have to learn the track.

Göran

Um...not bad track, but i seriously have trouble destinguishing what is grass and what is asphalt...almost like driving blindfolded...

Guess il handle it somehow, managed to get 0.57, but i highly doubth il survive 50 laps here. Maybe il get cooper this time.

Yup, really don't like this track at all. The grass cannot be touched for even a millisecond, so I fear concentrating for 53 laps is going to be a massive challenge.

I've been playing around with different cars and setups, and I just can't find anything that flows...or even allows me to drive quick enough to make me think I am racing, rather than just avoiding the edges.

Can anyone please share the philosophy of what kind of setup is appropriate for this track?

Cheers

Mr Arf

Arf,
A very challenging track because the the corners come in such quick succession.
Chances are I'm going to to be on the grass quite a bit here. More by accident than design - I did find a set up adjustment that helped. I think I started with a Watkins Glen set up & shorted 4th & 5th gears. The trick was to increase the front wheel Rebounds by a click each click. It seems to work for the Brabham on this track. Might not be any good for other drivers or other cars of course.

Yup, got my best time with a Brabham so far, so funny you find the same - I've used the Cooper exclusively so far this season, but may well have to take the Brabby for this one.

I'll have a look at modifying the Glen setup. Cheers Billy

A A A

Staying on track is hard enough but staying on track with other cars circulating is murder and I'm struggling to see where it is possible to pass without the other driver playing ball. We need a practice server before tonight I think.

I'll run a session off my pc just now if anyone's about....

Actually its a marvelious track when you get to know it... extremely fun. I still think it wouldn't do harm to have just a little bit darker grass, but oh well...

And seriously, you have to try the default setup. It seems it has been developed for the track especially, and feels great, just spot-on. Easely managed to do 10 laps in row in 57-58 range, which is pretty good for me. Seems il drive eagle, amazing how solid that car is on twisty tracks... cooper and ferrari aint bad either.  

you say that you cannot see the edge of the track , do you have a folder called options with the track ?

i do and they are

4bitnowhitelines
4bitwhitelines
releaseprogramme
slowerai
tasmanprogramme

john

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=246&st=0&p=1441&hl=+lakeside%20+&fromsearch=1&#entry1441

no that isn't what i have .

john

Great add for this track but I wish I had known about it earlier. Just tried it but find it off putting at this late stage. Worth a try if anyone had not seen it.

I'm in the late stages of a cold - my nose is currently dripping like a tap and I keep having sneezing fits.
As I'm not being payed/sponsered I think I'll pass  :ninja:

I've just spent the last hour doing the Albi Mod for Pro's (should go up tomorrow) with wads of tissue paper stuck up my nose so I could look down at my notes aswell as type  ;D

I just did a couple of laps and it reminds me very much of Jarama, just shorter. I tried my Jarama setup and it worked quite well straight out of the box. With a few gear ratio and camber changes it was quite nice, so if you have a Jarama setup, give it a go.

Gonna have to miss this one. I suppose it will give the others a chance........

Just embarrassing really. Got a good start but v cautious and then span at T2 on the second lap and engine blew getting back on. Couldn't reset for a while and then toodled round and let Geoff and Mike T go. Then whilst trying to let Bernie through I caught him by surprise as to how slow I was and he unceremoniously flipped me. Six laps more than I thought though.

Should have practiced. Like H it reminds me of Jarama and I HATE that track.

Sorry to Bernie - guess you got the PC working ;)

Ack! Chased Hristo until the Maserati lump had enough, my run of luck is getting ridiculous now.  :-\

Best of luck to the survivors!

You put me under a lot of pressure after the start, Joe! My advice would be though that you're more patient and don't push the car that much until it warms up (tires, engine), otherwise it bites you off as you have just experienced. I was hoping you would understand what I was doing by going a bit slower - wanted to get tires gradually up to temp instead of rapidly, it really helps later on, as well as let the oil temp build up slowly, it's important in the Honda. Shame you retired though, it could've been a good fight! I'll write more later maybe, though there's nothing much to say for what happened after you and Tom retired (except that I lapped Evil!  ;D).

Ironically I was actually taking care not to rev the engine so much, just one of those unfortunate faliures really I suppose.

Congrats on the win though.  :)

50/50 on that one Paul , though it was a suprise to find you slowing there , I hit you so appologies mate , didnt realise you left for home .

Got the PC sort of sorted OK but only the 67 cars at the mo , having trouble getting the 65's and other mods to load up , using win Zip but it tells me there is a fault running the instal exe thingy . Not seen your files yet as been out most of the day wetting babies bottoms  ::)

As for the race , I was doing OK until the screen went blank , first time I thought it was the old problem but it came back on when I hit the keypad  soon discovered after the 2nd time it blanked out , that it was the power save option shutting me down ( It was set to the default 20mins when I checked it ) so a big sigh of relief there in one respect because I was thinking maybe my monitor was goosed .

The black screens kind of spoilt my race rythm , it took me quite a while and a few offs before I could calm down and get back into race pace , somehow found myself back up to P3 ( due to others misfortunes? ) but then got a bit to excited and blew my chances on the armco at that L.H. kink,  needing a re set and s & g , In the closing laps I found myself racing Fabio ? for P3 but made a few errors and he got the last podium place , he did earn it , so well driven chap.

Grats to Ross for a great drive,and commiserations to Ronnie. see you all soon at the next dash & crash meeting  :)

  

Results uploaded and replays to be found in the usual places. A provisional look at Privateers shows no one took more then one reset although I still need to check the stop and go's.
Any incident reports by close of play Friday please.

I wasn't expecting much at all from this event, in fact it was unlikely I was even going to be there as my wife was in labour over the weekend. In the end my second son arrived very quickly (a budding simracer perhaps?) and I decided I'd learn the track during qually and start the race if I felt I had a chance of a result.

Luckily it's a short lap and the layout is easy to learn, although any mistakes are punished severely. I noticed people were falling off all over the place and reckoned that, from eighth on the grid I might get some good points if I kept my nose clean.

The first third of the race was pretty mental, as expected there were spins aplenty which allowed me to get into the top four until I made some errors of my own. At one point Ronnie lapped me but then struggled to pull away, not sure what was going on, engine trouble perhaps? Then he pulled off track and let me back past.

The rest is a bit of a blur as there was no time to look at Prib, so I just told myself, if you don't make any more errors you could still win this. Heading into the latter stages Fabio was leading from the recovering Ronnie who still didn't have his earlier pace, but we were both closing in on the leader. I passed Ronnie and then Fabio ran wide a few laps later, leaving me with a few more laps to reel off before the flag.

I'm delighted to have picked up a win as I'd not slept properly the night before and it's a tough track, but I think I was lucky my rivals had some problems again. Nice to get a 1-2 for CHR with new teamie Ronnie in second.

My new son fell fast asleep when I tried to tell him all about it afterwards :)

Seems I have the attention span of a goldfish of late. I was the first to make a mistake just a few laps in which dropped me down the field. Steadily I fought my way up through the field and was comfortably in second place with about 20 laps to go. So what do I do? Run wide at the first corner, get a wheel on the grass, lose the back end, slide into the barrier and lose a wheel  :-\. Congrats to those of you that made it to the end. I pray I'll get to the finish next time round.

Congrats to Ross on both counts then  ;D

Say a Big hello to little Ross from all at UKGPL  ;D ;D ;D

Hope Mum is doing OK too  :)

Big congratulations Ross. Number of sons is the only way I can match you.  :laugh:

Congratulations Ross.
That's two kids since you've been with UKGPL. Maybe we can advertise Season 22 as "JOIN UKGPL & ENHANCE YOUR VIRILITY"

Grats to Ross on an epic win and an epic week all round.

To be honest despite a PB in qualifying to claim pole, I was happy to pick up good points in the BRM. Engine woes and a trip onto the the superglue grass on the way back to the pits to do a stop and go pretty much scuppered my early form. I decided to settle for safety and a good finish. Having said that I could not resist picking up my pace again when Ross came past and nearly paid the price trying to chase him down. Well done Fabio on third, the race was yours for the taking, better luck next time. Ditto Martin.

Apologies to anyone who I may have come across in qualifying. But with the short track and the number of people out it was pretty cut and thrust at times. Sorry if I screwed anyones fast lap.

Looking forward to driving something a little faster next time out, roll on Mexico!

Absolutely woeful display in Queensland from me. Held prov pole for a few laps early in Qually which I had no idea about. With all the traffic about it was not safe to take your eyes from the road. Worse than the evening peak on the Western Ring Road. Got bumped to 4th and surprised myself by claiming 2nd in the last minute of Qually, also with a PB. It was so hard to put a clean lap together or find enough space to develop a couple of quick ones. Led to silly anxious mistakes, trying to push the car before it was ready to be pushed. Grats Ray on lifting the Pole silverware

Got a good start and followed Ray down to Karussell for the first time. We'd gapped the field by a bit and there was no pressure......but I still managed to put the outside rear on the grass at the exit and at the mere thought of applying throttle, it snapped right and deposited me in the inside guardrail.. :'( Last again, after all that work and effort in Qually. Spent the next half lap trying to find a hole big enough to pass, an all over the place Hurricane Hannah. Not til the Kink, was I able to set off after the pack again. This was just the first of 10 major and minor off track excursions, some traffic assisted.......some not. Lap 2 saw me run a bit wide through the kink before Hungry Corner and stick two wheels firmly in the glue pot that is the track verge. It grabbed the car, threw it with some force against the guardrail then parked me up on the red dirt bank overlooking the track. No driving out of this mess sadly.....Reset and S n G  time. Got going again, and frankly.....most of the rest is a blur..even after viewing the replay. Apologies for knocking you off in the braking area for Karussell Hannah, but you were all over the shop, and all I could do was hold my line tight down the inside of the track and hope you weren't there when I arrived.

I don't think I clouted anyone else, but I must apololgize also to new Teamie Ray, for getting in your way at Hungry Corner, recovering from yet another stupid spin. I heard you coming, and though not able to see you, the note of the Bellowing Beast of Bourne informed me who it was. Sorry mate, I truly thought I'd left plenty of room for you and was surprised to see your eyes...big as dinner plates, in my mirror. Just before you clouted me and spun me yet again.  :-\

Hearty congratulations Ross at the birth of our newest future UKGPL member, as well as your splendid drive to hold it all together (mostly) for 53 laps and a well earned victory. Also to the podium placegetters Ray and Fabio. Great drive Fabio, really deserved more, but sometimes it's just not to be. The Clark-Hill quinella at Lakeside had the Gundy so ecstatic he swallowed far too many cans of the local beverage known as  Castlemaine XXXX. I always wondered what XXXX meant, then realised it's simply the fact that Queenslanders can't spell BEER. Consequently the Gundy is postponing Ray's Palfry-giving ceremony, until his head stops splitting in two.  :D
Finished fifth after all the dramas and was surprised really at the number of finishers in general. Far more than I had initially envisioned. Thank Heaven the Coop is built somewhat tank-like, because I dished it out at least 4 or 5 fence hits throughout the race. However, it took the punishment without even wincing.

Special mention to Bernie, when I was chasing you for fourth place. Couldn't even put a dent in the gap as hard as I tried, and then you stretched it from 6 to 9secs and at that, I settled for a drive to the finish rather than test another armco fence somewhere. Your new machine must really agree with you!. But turn all the power saving stuff off before next race mate. Mexico won't let you get away with driving blind.  ;D

On to Mexico Hombres

Congratulations Ross and more especially Mrs Ross for timing things so well that it allowed you to race. That must be true love  ::)

As for my race.... well 95% worked almost exactly to plan.

Try for a decent grid slot to avoid any Lap 1 problems on such a short track.
Don't push too hard in the early laps, just try and hold the leaders in sight.
Don't get too close to cars in front if they seem to be dicing in the early laps
Pick up places as this unforgiving track takes its toll
Maintain a steady pace and don't try and be a hero

So by lap 25 everything was going well and I was in a comfy 3rd spot. The only slight problem was that a quick check on my fuel showed that at this pace I was unlikely to get to the finish by about 2 laps  :-\

OK start short shifting and coasting into corners, which initially dropped about a second of my lap times.
But, as I got used to using higher gears the time lost was only half a second and I was still saving fuel.
By 3/4 distance it looked like I would just about finish the race with the gas I had, so I kept with the short shifting as by now I was in 2nd spot and still way ahead of 3rd place man Arf.
Then things started to go wrong... Hristo was on a mission and it looked like he was going to lap me and it has been a long, long time since he has been able to do that.  I worked my nuts off improving my pace in the Honda to put a stop to that little game of Hristo's about 3 seasons ago!!!
So I upped my pace a little and I think H had a problem and the gap widened for a few more laps....maybe I would just sqeak it to the finish without being lapped.
Then I realised that I had totally screwed my fuel saving and I was in big fuel trouble AGAIN!

I gritted my teeth as Hristo caught me and I allowed him an easy pass  :'(
More short shifting and even taking corners a gear higher was beginning to repair the damage to me fuel load. But the problem with farting about with your gear chages and revs , is that you are shifting gears where you really don't want to and with just 4 laps to go I allowed my concentration to slip and an early upshift did not give me the power on oversteer to take me through a corner on the line I wanted. As a result I got a rear wheel on to the grass and the back end came around just in time to meet some convenient armco!!  With 3 wheels I might have considered carrying on, but with 2 wheels and both on the same side it was over!!

Grats to Arf and Fulvio for a well judged and careful race and to Hristo who was lapping at warp speed in his Waza. I don't think I could have stopped you lapping me even with the proper fuel level.

"Well judged and careful" - I suppose so, I finished after all. What a mind **** it was to concentrate so hard for so long. There were lapses though - I had 4/5 offs. Only the last one really bothered me, cos it allowed Hristo to lap me for a second time very near the end of the race. I couldn't argue with the +1 classification, but +2 hurts.....

"Race".....mmm. Didn't feel like one. With all respect to Fulvio I never felt threatened for my position until I started spinning a lot towards the end (so Fulvio had better judgement and was more careful), and the gap between us halved. I only got to P2 as others went out, didn't overtake anyone, and only got into trouble when I tried to chase down Evil. And that was 30 seconds after deciding to attack, having got bored spending 20 laps or so just 5/6 secs behind.

Apart from that the race was almost as boring as my P3 in PSC on Friday. Yes, you read correctly - I got 2 podiums this weekend, and I'm moaning - does that make me a proper racing driver??? :D

I guess to finish first, first you have to finish, so I shall try and take solace in the fact I have finished my last 3 races. Quite how I make the jump to be competitive head to head......well that's for a another day....

Bah Humbug!

Arf

Thanks for the kind words guys, perhaps one day my sons will take on the mini-Bloods in the UKGPL juniors league :D

LOL - If his Mum ever lets him drive again... knowing Joseph and how lazy he is, that is fairly unlikely  :D

Last orders for any incident reports as need to look at this one soon.

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