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Practice 1: 19:40 BST (60 mins)
Qual 2:      20:40 BST (20 mins)
Race:        21:00 BST (22 Laps) - note: no warm up!

ROLLING START!

Cars: Formula 1 1988 For GTR2 V0.9 - Available to download from here (http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,fileinfo/id,1261/lang,en/) or here. (http://www.simworldgt.com/?n=Formula_One_-_F1_1988&p=download_details&id=52)
                       and F1 1988 Missing Teams Update V1.4 - Available to download from here (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=29092)

BOTH MODS MUST BE INSTALLED

Track: Hockenheim 99 (v1.0.0.0, download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#post_hocken99)).

Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: DRY.

Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: normal.

Server: simracing.org.uk F1
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=315&theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

Server is running atm and will be up again after tonight's GTL event, approx 10pm.

Will be tough for the slower cars to keep up in this one as it's very much a point and shoot track, but should be great fun drafting down those bendy straights.

My best so far in the EuroBrun is a 1:50.3xx. Hope to have an hour on the server later tonight.

Hi mates, Just did my first install laps in the Tyrrell and was very pleased with it's general character but did realized that it is gearing challenged as it does not have tall enough gearing for at the very least the Hockenheim track. I usually stay as "stock" as possible aside from the XD telemetry mod but after seeing Manteos post from Interlagos talking about an "advanced garage" that allows a final drive ratio change that this would be a worth while mod that would allow the car to be like most of the other cars that can reach a higher top speed. GT has given his stamp of approval as long as everyone knows about this mod so here's a link to the version I'm using. http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=6723
I haven't tried it for mismatches but from the feedback it sounds like it will be OK
I'm sure some of the others cars might be gearing challenged as well so this would be a worth while mod that is probably more like the real thing anyways ;) My best lap was a low 1:50 as well but I'm sure a bit more can be had with some practice time ;D Cheers

Only did one or two laps but think it was a 50.8. need to sort out the gearing, 6th needs to be touch shorter ideally.

Yep, no problem with this now that everyone is aware of it and has the option to use it if they so desire. Thanks for bringing it to my attention Navin.







Times are looking nice and close then  :thumbup1:

Dammit, in Switzerland till Monday so have one nights practise!! It's going to be a loooong night!

Bloody GTL night again means false offline practising    :angel:

It's ok mate, we're at Bathurst. We'll all be out by lap 3  :laugh:

I'll be on the server approx 10pm.

I've just started the server up, couldn't wait any longer.... the queue was round the block! :D

....cheers Legzy.

Les.....keep trying, that booted thing is a pia but you'll get in eventually  :)

I'm trying, I'm trying...  ???

Les

Try a car you've not yet driven offline as that sometimes works.

I've tried all the other cars, no difference so far... All the other players online have simracing.org.uk F1 against their names, while I only have <>  Does that mean anything?

Les

I think that just shows when you're in the lobby and not on a server.

I've not known antone get nooted that many times....8 or 9 I think is my record  ;) Maybe you have some conflicring mods or tracks??? Can you join any other servers at all?

If all fails, maybe a seperate install would do it??

Is that when you're in the lobby? if so, that's fine.

What GT meant, was that if you've taken Senna when testing offline, try taking Prost instead (if you've not used him).

Also, worth trying to join another server that has no password, to see if you can get in. Gamers crib or something :-\

I'll try another server. I do have a few other mods installed; P&G etc. If all else fails, I'll try reinstalling...

Thanks for the suggestions,
Les

I can get on server ok, but did have problems with possible cheat.

Mod works but I dont have any wheels :(, just cockpit

Make sure you don't have the terrain patch enabled on the folder that contains the F188 mod.

@Rob....open your plr file and look for wheels visible in cockpit and change it to 1  ;)

Yep, I get booted from servers with no password. I don't know about a terrain patch; I installed this mod two or three weeks ago. Just the basics, the missing teams and the tracks. I think I need to start from scratch...

Thanks again,
Les

Les,

Double check you have got all the missing teams stuff in the right place. I installed this mod new today and it took me a couple of goes before it stopped booting me.

Well, I think I'm going to have to call it a night. I'm an hour ahead of you guys and I have to work in the morning. I'll recheck everything again tomorrow and maybe I'll still see you for the race. Thanks for all the support!

Les

1:50.3 is my best with qually setup (low fuel new tyres ;D)
Might hit a few 1:50's in the race if I can do something to stop losing my tail end at corner entry ::)

Minardi's not to good down the straights but boy it's quick through the stadium section. Not expecting too much from the race, I just hope I can be relatively competitive.

I had some issue's with my first GTR2 that was loaded with add-ons so I would try a seperate install and you should have no problems. Plus the game will start up much faster because of the lack of add-ons ;)

I have an idea what might have been the problem. When I installed the mod, I noticed the discussion on modifying the 'washboard' effect, and I tweaked the terrain.tex file I think it was. So maybe restoring that to the original might be the answer. I reinstalled last night, but forgot the lobby patch, so didn't manage to test it. Anyway, to confirm, the terrain file has to be as per the original?

Also, the password for the race, is it just as written, or does it refer to a list somewhere?

See you later,

Les

I'd say that was the cause of your problem Les.

Terrain file is just the standard one and not the PnG modified version.

The race password is as written and doesn't refer to a list.

wont be racing tonight :(

real life getting in the way again

Toast, CTD at right before start :P Hope u guys have a good run ;)

unlucky Navin :(

did a solid time in practise and went for dinner.... came back for quali and couldn't get within a second of it. To make matters worse my G25 gave up any ffb so it was tricky jumping over the kerbs on the chicanes. I spun and went to the back, and then spun again, and again and then again some more  ::)

i'll put this one down to mechanical failure  :'(

Bad luck Navin  :(

Running in 8th and just able to hold onto the back of Blunder then on lap 10 got slightly too pushy through the stadium and threw it at the armco. Lost a wheel and pitted but unsurprisingly my lazy pitcrew decided they weren't going to replace it. Race over  :'(

Really enjoyed it up till then. Felt very immersive from where I was sitting.

Sorry GT, These arent for me im afraid. Please pass my Ligier onto a deserving driver.

Stuck with it throughout all the sessions and was even relatively competitive at various stages, but they are just too much hard work for my liking.
For some reason in the race my back end kept switching around on me under braking at the slow left corner in the stadium arena. Probably a bias issue but hadnt done it in any of the long praccy and qually. Infuriating when it happens 3 times in a row after controlling it well the rest of the lap so i retired, as my hearts just not in this series, i prefer my GT racing.

The cars look good and sound great though and looks like good attendances for once. Good luck.

Oh dear...that was a disaster! I was comfortable in qualifying and looking forward to the race. I moved up to 2nd on the first lap and thought I might have a chance at a podium this time out....

Well, that was until my ageing computer decided to have an massive FPS drop in the stadium, which caused my first spin, demoting me to last. That seemed to be an omen for things to come. While fighting my way up the field I manage 2 lazy spins into the hairpin. My down-shifting into first gear kept causing the rears to lock on entry to the turn, yet I never had this problem in qualifying  ::). That dropped me down the field again, but I finally got my act together and charged through the field, no doubt helped by me deciding to take the hairpin in 2nd gear from now on  ;).

Sadly at about half distance, I was catching Blunder in the stadium and I guess he decided to just let me through and lifted on the straight. I simply wasn't expecting that and ploughed straight into the back of him, ending my race and severely affecting his. I'm deeply sorry Blunder, after what had been an already ragged race from me. I wouldn't be surprised if I get a warning because of that. I hope you managed to carry on after that, despite my best efforts to kill us both!

Congrats to all the finishers.

No worries Sam, you were catching me sooo fast and I had no idea what position you were in so eased off slightly to let you past but obviously caught you out! :(

Oh, well!

KNACKERED!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was having a really good time, taking it easy, trying to be consistent. I had a good battle with Manteos for 9th. Then I got too close to phspok I think going into the ostkurve, braked too late and touched him as he turned in. Sorry :-[ Then I went to do a drive through and ended up doing a very long pit stop. So a lonely end to the race

Les

Good fun race. despite incidents. Followed Laz for some laps, then I think I fell off somewhere and chased a few
then lost my front when someone braked 100 yds later than I was doing,  :o and decided I would lose more time in the
pits than crawling through the twisties. man but it flew on the straights though!  ;D 200+ mph. had Laz chasing
but held him off until I went wobbly braking as late as I dared, then caught and half passed round the outside into the stadium
which was a brave if silly move with no front wing.... he repassed and I got on the kerb then spun letting
TT through for the place. Great fun all the same, I think the back end leaping out (something the arrows
excels at...) is part 1st gear engine braking, and front disks overheating and going off just as you start to turn.
Happens to me a lot.

WOW!!

That was hard, hard work. didn't get from work until about a min before Qually started, so no warmup praccy. Managed a very respectable qually time for 2nd, but could not touch Jubei.

Gave a place away in the early put of the race to a very fast Sam Blood (What was your top end down the straights lol?) and thought here we go a steady decent down the field, but no, miracles of miracles I actually managed to string a series of error free laps together and was staying in touch with Jubei throughout. Spanner kept me very honest with constant pressure from behind. Anyway, apart from a slight run wide in the stadium in final laps a very consistent drive for me and most enjoyable, thank you all

WOW, cant belive i win YEAH.Bad Jamera ;) Pushing me Really hard.I got a good Setup,but i must drive all i can.
Thanks 2 all very Nice Race   i got a BIG  ;D in the Face hihihihi
THANKS  again se ya on Track 
Jubei

Begin rant!! >:(...can everyone please please please read the rules about our starting procedures. I had 2-3 occasions where I nearly rear ended the car in the front because the pace wasn't at a constant speed. The pit limiter should also be used by the leading car as it exits the last corner onto the main straight. Thank You.
Just in case people aren't sure where to look for the rules https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg54455#msg54455 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg54455#msg54455)

A very tough race. Extremely happy to bring the car home in 5th place. All I need to do now is to stop sweating during the race....I keep losing grip on the wheel :laugh:

Well done everyone I had battles with along the way, and all that finished. 8)

Having trouble posting the results....I'll get them up as soon as I can.

It was Matt Rowe I spun on lap 14... Sorry Matt

Les

I'm thinking it was more then bad luck. More like dumb luck on my part. I realized right before the start that I never tried the pitlane so I went into the pits and right at the speed limiter point is when I CTD. This was my exact problem I had at Brno's pre season race. So I'm thinking that the advanced garage is at fault because I did have the advanced garage for my old massive add-on GTR2 install. I'm just glad it doesn't sound like anyone else had this problem. So if you are planning on running the advanced garage please beware of this and practice before the race start ::) to make sure all is OK. Good thing is other than this race I don't think at the other tracks I will need the taller gearing that advance garage provides. Cheers ;)

definitely  8)


shame mate, but at least you gave it a proper go  ;)


second that  >:(

two races in a row now.... new people should confirm that they have read and understand them  :-\

Wasn't that knackered from my beginning GTR(1) racing days, a lot more concentration is needed here. On the other hand this makes opportunities and I gave and exploited some in the race. First I must thank Navin for a setup. It was revolutionary enough to make me think and get out of the safe environment of high(er) wing settings. I must admit I wasn't bold enough to go with the original wings in the race setup, I upped it a click or two to make the car more stable - it was faster for me 'cause of the less wobbly corner exits.

Btw, replacing original "UI Data" folder eliminates advanced garage?  

Race was risky, especially the start where I lost some positions 'cause of the way of the start. Will also add: rules are as they are to make things better basing on Championship experience in the past. I don't remember any first corner pileups since we applied a pit limiter starts. :)

In the race I had bad times and good times. The good times came in the last part of the race which is good. ;) I think more laps / experience here will bring more competitive racing through the field and even things out a bit. Looking forward to it. :)

I agree TT (that's twice this month I think  :))

Also remember that Hockenheim was an extreme track in this series and one that the more grunty cars or drivers that could carry extreme wing settings were bound to dominate. Next round is Hungaroring which is right at the opposite end of the spectrum. It will be interesting to see how the balance works here.

And don't forget the ballast effect  :devil:

Never had troubles with the advanced garage menu, since I've been start to use it maybe 2 or 3 years ago. No CTD or something similar... Strange thing that of the CTD right at the speed limiter point, but really don't know what to think mate :(

About my race, it was quite boring during the first 13-14 laps, in which I had only few fights with MJ and maybe Lazlow if I remember well.
Last laps were a bit more interesting, even if Dallara suffered a lot to keep the speed of the preceeding car also when I was exploiting the trail (and I was driving with both front and rear wings setted on 1). I guess I had a great braking battle with TT, but I had to give up 2 or 3 laps before the end, when I was really near the limit of car control going into the sand at the first corner of the motodrom. TT passed me easily even in the external line in that corner, and I was a bit "furious"  >:( about it, but I couldn't do anything better to defend my position.
With only one lap to go I spun at the last corner, breaking front wing-suspention and all the "unuseful" pieces of my car ;D, resisting til the last corner when my car spun again :(... so I've lost other 2 positions at only 200 meters to the checkered flag. It wasn't my night, but at least I wasn't last at the end... very small consolation :-\

I bet to be more competitive in Hungaroring... or better... I hope so ;)

I guess in the Ferrari i should have been right up there! Hmm so maybe my 1.50 before the race was a bit out! I had been running 20-20 wing so realising everyone was running lot lower decided to drop it to help with the top speed to 15. However in the slower stuff i do struggle so was kinda glad for most of race i was on my own as a few mistakes crept in. Couldnt keep up with Jamera annoyingly but was just trying not to push at all as i struggle when the tyre wear increases.

And so we go to a completly opposite track then, assuming its not to disimiliar to the modern hungaroring.

Results and replay in the usual places


Ballast carried for next round (Kgs)

Jubei           60
Jamera           50
spannerF1      40
Legzy           30
lazlow           20
Truetom          10

Would all drivers please make sure they keep their driver names the same for the remainder of this series.   
   


   

 :D Legzy's carrying more ballast than me. ;)

GT - Can I have a Mainardi logo in the results standings http://www.allfreelogo.com/stock/thumb-minardi-team.jpg (http://www.allfreelogo.com/stock/thumb-minardi-team.jpg) Thank You

Can "we" have.............  ;)

Certainly not. Everyone would want one  :laugh:

No idea how to do that....Dave department I think.

How does the ballasty thingy work?
will the server apply it, what about offline testing?

I use a tool called GTR2 Manager which allows pre-determined weights to be applied to particular driver names. When a driver joins, their ballast weight will be added automatically. It is then visible in the "Timings" section in game.

I'm uncertain whether the weight will be applied immediately for the session into which a driver enters. From my limited testing I believe it is applied when the session moves onto the next, which might be a problem if drivers join during quali....ie their ballast won't be applied until race which will obviously put them at an advantage in quali  :-\

I'll need to see what happens when we hold a practice session probably late Monday and decide what's best.

As for how it affects the cars, it will slow you down by approx 1.5 to 2 secs a lap depending on circuit and cause some degree of increased tyre wear. It will be most noticeable accelerating out of slow corners and under braking. The handling in the corners will be more sluggish but in my tests it didn't hurt the balance and the cars still felt good.

For rough offline testing, I'd stick the equivalent amount of fuel in although I don't expect it will have exactly the same effect.

From what i remember with the Gamerscrib races it applies it straight away.

What a race, really enjoyed that! I was in a right state when I finished. :sweatdrop:

If I had to pick one word to sum it up, I'd go for: Intense!

Great to see Team Oldie topping the Team Championship ;D (though Blunder needs to start pedaling his Williams a bit faster, I think that's 1-0 to me mate & Frank Williams is keeping his eye on you ;))

I look forward with interest, to seeing the ballast start to kick in @ Hungaroring. Should be fun 8)

The server's running Hungaroring atm but not with GTR2 Manager. I'll give Matt a bit of time to post the Cadwell results and then restart with ballast so maybe a few could hop on to try it.