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Round 7 brings us back to Europe and the sweeping Austrian circuit that is Zeltweg 71.
Long fast straights and some tricky corners might favour the muscle cars that were struggling at Adelaide

You all know the difficulties with the poor rear view in these cars so please be aware that the car in front maybe cannot see you and does not know you are there. Particularly on the first racing lap! The use of the "virtual mirror" may not be exactly historically accurate but it makes things a lot safer..it is your choice.

DRIVERS IN THE GREY AND PINK TEAMS NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT WHAT CARS HAVE BEEN USED. BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT DRIVERS IN THESE TEAMS, EACH CHASSIS MUST BE USED EQUALLY. THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE TEAM HAS USED EACH CAR IS SHOWN BELOW.


Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Sunday July 24th
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Zeltweg 71
Race length = approx 50 minutes (30 laps)
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Intermediate (see rules below re resets)
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join the server.
Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=307;theme=6)

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

RED TEAM          HRISTO ITCHOV,  Evilclive, Paul Badblood  
 Chap 2F / Mirage / Porsche
                                                                
BLUE TEAM        SAMB, Fulvio, Happy Al  
Chap 2F/ Lola/ Mirage

GREEN TEAM     ZACHARIA BLITO, Phil Thornton, Axel Cookie
Chapp 2F/ Ferrari P4 / Mirage

ORANGE TEAM        NIGEL SMITH, Tim FMG,Dave RAndall  
Ferrari P4 / Chapp 2D / Ford GT MK2.

GREY TEAM     Captained by Tim Vosblod who is looking after the part time drivers who cannot be sure to attend every race.

The cars for the Grey team for this season will be
Chapperal 2D.................   USED 7 TIMES
Mirage............................USED  4 TIMES
Ford GT40 MK1.................USED 6 TIMES

a NEW pink team HAS BEEN FORMED TO ACCOMODATE A FEW MORE OF THE TEMPORARY DRIVERS IN THIS SERIES

The Cars for the Pink Team are
Ferrari  ........................USED 1 TIMES
Mk2 GT40.....................USED 1 TIMES
Porsche


All drivers must drive all 3 team cars at least 3 times. At the end of the 10 race championship any TEAM found to be in breach of this rule will have its BEST TEAM points result of the season cancelled. Each driver will drop his worst 2 results, in line with the other championships, this gets over the problem of missed races and 2 man teams looking for a sub at the last minute.

The events will be run on Intermediate damage and allow ONE Shift-R with a compulsory 10 second pit stop regardless of fault. (This means 10 seconds in your pitbox without moving). Any driver who fails to take a 10 second stop within 1 lap after a Shift-R, will be disqualified from the results. For this division the full moderation of lap one now applying across all divisions will include both the warm up lap and lap one proper.

Please check the Season 21 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=301&theme=6) regarding rules and the GT Team Challenge pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=307&theme=6) in particular.

To help everybody I have prepared a table of chassis usage. Any errors are entirely mine (there aren't any ;D ). Do not forget that you need to drive each chassis 3 times to avoid a points loss at the end of the season.

Team	Driver	Porsche	Ferrari P330	GT40 Mk1	GT40 MkIIB	Mirage M1	Chap Mk2D	Chap Mk2F	Lola	Races entered
Team Red	Hristo Itchov	1	0	0	0	4	0	1	0	6
Team Red	EvilClive	2	0	0	0	2	0	2	0	6
Team Red	BadBlood	3	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	5
Team Blue	SamB	0	0	0	0	2	0	1	2	5
Team Blue	fpolicardi	0	0	0	0	1	0	3	2	6
Team Blue	happyal	0	0	0	0	2	0	2	1	5
Team Blue	natan5 (for Al?)	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Team Green	blito	0	2	0	0	1	0	3	0	6
Team Green	Phil Thornton	0	2	0	0	2	0	1	0	5
Team Green	Cookie	0	2	0	0	2	0	2	0	6
Team Orange	Nigel Smith	0	1	0	1	0	1	0	0	3
Team Orange	FullMetalGasket	0	1	0	2	0	2	0	0	5
Team Orange	Dave Randall	0	1	0	2	0	2	0	0	5
Team Grey	vosblod	0	0	1	0	2	0	0	0	3
Team Grey	Geoff65	0	0	1	0	1	2	0	0	4
Team Grey	jhalli	0	0	2	0	2	2	0	0	6
Team Grey	b_1_rd	0	0	1	0	1	2	0	0	4
Team Grey	s2173	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
Team Pink	vosblod (as guest)	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
Team Pink	s1273	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1

Hope it helps. I'll update after each round.

UKGPL_6 is still on Adelaide  ::)
Ciao

UKGPL6 is Tim's baby. He is such a lazy boy. ;)

UKGPL3 will be on Zeltweg by Friday night.

Unfortunately UKGPL_6 is soon to be no more. Thanks to Paul we will still have a practice server.

RIP UKGPL_6  :angel-wings:

I will run mine as a Joker  ;)

Not constantly but in the afternoons,
as my old server pc is gone with its age, the new (old) stronger server consumes double Watts/hour.   ::)

:chef:

PS: just reduced the consumption from 95 to 60 W/H ;D
1500 instead of 2000MHz, 1,2 instead of 1,65Vcore, and a NV Geforce2MX400 instead of a Geforce4  ::)

Here's a download link for the track in case someone needs it (I did!):

http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/zeltweg.php (click liens)

We used to have download links in the announcement thread all the time, but it's not a continuous practice these days.  ::) Odd enough I didn't find the track in the GPL track database website. Now to search for some graphics addon, if there are any.

EDIT: ah, it's under the german O letter.  ;D

The division mods put the track links and no of laps into the announcement threads. GT's are all there; https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9194.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9194.0)

Patch to remove the annoying pit area sounds:

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5256

Thanks H, was looking for this.... :D

T7 server, and Gpg.8 as backup, are ready set for 30 laps Long race listening on Igor.
Ciao

Hi all

is it possible for me to race tomorrow evening with the pink team ?
if yes, I will choose the Porsche 910 !

Just tell me ...

Dave

Hi Dave,

Yes you can take the Porsche for the Pink team at Zeltweg

But can you register by voting here please........https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9194.0

Already registered  ;)

Thank you !

Will i have to drive this damn ford mkI or mkII?  :'( and what team im in? grey or pink?

It's got a bit messy as Pink is the overflow for Grey but the latter is currently down to just Juha and myself.
I will let Mr Evil ponder that one ::)

You can drive for Grey or Pink sky but let me know which BEFORE the race as it affects the chassis selection. OK?

Ok, il go in pink, it doesnt seem too bisy... and il have to torture myself with the mkII... grrr. Maybe il miss the race altogheder eventually... Track is nice othervize... got 1.54...  idk.

Fingers crossed I might be able to  actually do this one although I have zero practice for it! Just got a little job to do on the bike first though....

where can I find the patch for "virtual mirror" ?

is it only for GT mod ?

is it easy to deinstall if not really appreciated ?

Thanks

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6680&view=findpost&p=60120

Just read the readme ;)

Thanks Cookie ! it works fine !

by the way, I registered for this GT championship, yestersday. but I still see no password on the top of this topic.
And this time, I cleaned my cache and old temporaries internet files !

Usually, how long before the race could we see the password ? 

You can now. Unfortunately, when someone votes, we are not automatically notified so it's a case of if we happen to check. Best thing to do is put a note on the registration threads to say you have voted.

Embarrassingly bad - had a nice race with Sky at the start but made some errors. Found myself on the armco at the last turn and that was that. At least I can start the server right now. Apart from that as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Sorry to anyone I got in the way of. I tried to be good.

Whenever I slip behind the wheel of these sportscars, I have this overwhelming desire to use 1 gear between two corners, short shift off corners to use the torque of the massive 7.0lt V8's and brake early and steadily to keep the fat lumps heading on the straight and narrow. I simply can't drive 'em like a GP car with doors which seems to be the only way to be competitive with anything other than the Porsche. I do love driving them though...they are fun of a different kind.
Circulated in the mid/low 50's made a couple of small mistakes but finished....albeit 2 laps down, just stayed out of everyones way and had fun. The GT40MkII is heavy, and grunty. The 4 speed box lends itself to short shifting off corners and riding the torque curve brilliantly. I suspect it would run a long time being driven in this manner. It's such a pity we can't do endurance type races in GPL, cos in a 6hr enduro I think the MkII would figure prominently in the results.

The best I can offer Geoff is the last race of this GT series, which will be 50% longer at Le Mans Sarthe.

Race length should be about 85-90mins, if you can all stay awake.  ::) I would like to have made it worth double points, but that probably complicates the whole championship table beyond belief. So all you get is the satisfaction of surviving  ;) and normal points.

Still trying to come to terms with throwing away the win last night :-\ and will post my view of the race later.

Frankly last night's race felt like a six hour enduro effort. Lewis Hamilton I was not. At least at Le Mans I might make the grunt of the Mirage count a bit. Poor old Clive has to take the Porker so his race will be the normal 100% length ;)

I saw your spin Evil, as it happened just in front of me. I felt quite sorry for you, bad luck, but there is always next race.

My race was nothing special, I did OK in qualifying. I didn’t get a PB, but Phil was so far ahead that even a PB wouldn’t of put me any higher on the grid. My race was a little uneventful. The only thing I did notice was a bit of fps drop, it didn’t make much difference, and it wasn’t too noticeable when driving.

After the start I was in a little pocket by myself, I couldn’t catch anyone ahead, but I could just about keep in front of Geoff behind. Geoff speeded up a little so I needed to respond, which caused me to have 2 spins, one after another, both at the same spot which was the braking zone after the main straight. Geoff had his own moment, which let me get past and at that point I was doing OK.

I was happy doing my laps and getting out of the way of faster cars, when Hristo came up to lap me. He caught me at the last corner, but at this point was still quite a few cars lengths behind. I was planning on taking the corner and coming off throttle on the start/finish straight. I made a small mistake under braking (I was watching my mirrors) and ran wide, and Hristo went for the gap, and I turned in. We collided and I lost a wheel. Sorry about that Hristo, looking at my reply there was a huge space for you.

After my 10 second pit stop I was quite some way behind Geoff, so settled in to bring it home. Evil past me at this point, I let him though on the start/finish straight, but he had a little spin at turn 1, I hope I didn’t effect you in any way Evil. Geoff had a moment because I was right behind him again, and when he had another moment I got past. After that I just brought the car back home.

Overall it was a lonely race for me, I didn’t see many people and just cruised around for most of the race to bring it home safely. I think I beat the people who I could realistically beat so it was OK. I would hope to be involved more in the pack in future races.

Not a problem, Al, I was not really affected much, the car just lost some momentum, but didn't seem to get damaged. As you said, you went wide and with Porsche's superior cornering speed I was instantly going down the inside, something which I guess you did not expect, but that's how different Porsche is compared to the other cars. You weren't the first who seem to have been surprised by the cornering (and braking) speed difference yesterday, but I guess it's difficult to recognize when you're up against a Porsche and with the mod still being relatively new - to judge the gap properly.

I'll post a proper report later on, though my race was rather lonely once Sam dropped back. I should check the replay though, as there was a very quick backmarker near the end who unlapped himself and disappeared into the distance.  :o Wonder who it was and where he has been until those final couple of laps, lol.

First of all, grats to Juha for keeping the pressure on all the way through the race and being there to take the win when I made a mistake. Maybe a lesson there for everyone ...."the race isn't over until you see the flag". ::)


Because I had the 2F for this race I knew that I ought to be somewhere near the front of the grid! With that much power on a circuit like this I felt that I had to make it count. My problem was that Juha had similar ideas!!! He quickly set a stunning low 1:47 lap which was about 1 sec faster than I had managed in private practice on race fuel.

I squeezed a lap out on race fuel that moved me up to 2nd spot, but I got the feeling that with that much fuel on board I was never going to match Juha's time. Pole position would give a clear track and that has to be an advantage through some of the sweeping corners around Zeltweg. So I dumped a load of fuel and left enough for about 7 laps and went out to try and beat Juha's time. Slowly I chipped away and got closer and closer. Then with one banzai lap I got pole by 0.01 secs!! Well, I was sure that Juha was just going to take that pole back again, but he didn't  ;D
So the rolling grid set off and I knew that Juha was going to be all over me like a rash for this race because our times were so close. Plus Hristo and Sam were only fractionally slower!!

As I suspected I had Juha all over my tail pies for the early laps. He was definitely faster through T1 but I had the edge through a couple of other turns and so the gap opened and closed with each lap. We were running in the 1:48's from the start and it looked like being a very close race.
Hristo dropped back in his Porsche unable to live with the straight line speed of our 2 Chapps and I concentrated on keeping my lines as clean as possible and remembering to brake early enough to get turned in to the corners.

Then Juha ran wide at T2 and I had a small gap, but big enough to deny Juha any slipstream, so I tried to push as hard as I could for a few laps and build a cushion.
For the next 20 laps I maintained the gap back to Juha, but I was driving just about on the limit to match his pace. Each time I passed a backmarker I lost a little of that gap, but then I could tell when Juha passed the same guy, because the gap was restored again.

The gap was not big enough to allow any mistakes and Juha was relentless. As the fuel load came down towards the end of the race we were both putting in 1:47 laps and matching each others pace with about 500 metres between us.
Then I blew it!!
I caught and passed Al as we approached T1 and because I did not want to risk any contact I stayed to the right until I could see him in my ( virtual) mirror before moving back on to the racing line. Al did nothing wrong and held his line as I passed. But I was so concentrated on my mirror and avoiding Al, that I ran too far and too fast into T1  and was out on that slippery green stuff before I could scrub off the excess speed. The spin was rather prolonged and to make matters worse I ended up nose first into the fencing on the outside of the track needing to reverse on to the racing line to recover!!
Of course, I had to let Juha through before I could recover and when I did, it soon became apparent that bouncing along the fence had not done the suspension/steering any great favours!! :-\

There was no chance of catching Juha with 5 laps to go, especially with a car that had become very unstable under braking, so I had to settle for a cruise into 2nd spot.
Hristo did a great job in getting the Porker home in 3rd place and Paul soldiered on to get some points the Mirage. Not a bad day for the Red Team, but it should have been better.

Nice to get some kind words but feeling pretty undeserving. I wasn't feeling very well last night and I kept losing concentration and the frequent trips to the armco made me even slower than normal. Clive had set me a taget of 1:55 as a lap and when I started the race I put in a nice 1:57 early doors and I thought it was going to be fun but then I span on the outside of the long first curve taking too wide a circle. That knackered the car a bit and then when I pushed to catch Sky I span three times in a row over the crest leading to the last turn :( After the reset the car was horrible for some reason and I struggled to do 2:00.

So as it happens, I could have retired at the end of the rolling lap because although Sky retired earlier I was too far back to take advantage.

Good race that. True to form, I was about a second or so behind the leading pace of Clive and Juha which was good enough for 3rd on the grid, just ahead of H in his gutless Porsche. From lap 1 onwards, it was clear I didn't have to pace to battle with Clive and Juha up front, but had a cracking battle with H for the first third of the race. H was simply awesome on the brakes and through the corners in his nimble Porsche in comparison to my heavy Chap 2F. But the grunt from the V8 more often than not placed me ahead on the straights. I also found out the hard way just how useless the mirrors are. But it's my choice to race reasonably authentically so I've no qualms about it. As long as I don't hit anyone anyway  ;D.

Just before the half way point, I had a lazy spin on the approach to the Bosch-Kurve. That allowed Tim past me and I spent the rest of the race trying to catch him. I eventually managed to catch him, and pass him into the Hella-Licht. Tim didn't make it easy for me though, and pressed me hard up until the flag. I managed to finish less than a second ahead and hold onto 4th place. Reasonably happy with my result though I have no clue where to find another second consistently around here  :-\. Congrats to the podium!

Is there a special place for the replay?

I knew this was going to be a tough race in the Porsche, but I thought it was possible to keep up with the front runners as long as they provided me with slipstream. Qualifying went better than expected, with a new PB in place putting me on the 2nd row of the grid. Juha again ignored the remark from previous races and was doing some crazy zig-zagging during the warm up lap, which was a bit worrying, but all went well fortunately.

As soon as we started it became apparent I had to overtake Sam if I was to not lose Evil and Juha, but that was easier said than done. Regardless of how quicker the Porsche was under braking and through corners, the straights were simply too long for that advantage to prevail over engine power, so I was stuck behind Sam and by the time we exchanged a couple of overtakes, Juha and Evil were now out of reach.

Once Sam dropped back, it was a lonely drive to the flag, passing a backmarker now and then. As mentioned by Jason himself, we had a moment in the last turn when he went wide on the entry to the corner and then turned back to the line while I was already there, but that is the grip difference of the Porsche and the other cars. I'm not also sure who it was, but there was one backmarker near the end who seemed to have the pace to even fight for victory, as he passed me with ease and instantly pulled away, so I'm puzzled how he was lapped in the first place!

Grats to Juha for the win and Evil to 2nd, although he most certainly deserve to win it after leading for the majority of the race.

This was Jens Kraft in a Lola...
I wondered how he could join the server, he did some crazy actions during this race.

And bothered everyone by chatting during qualifying, making disrespectful comments to some drivers... Is he registered to the division? And if not, who the hell gave him the password. :|

Not registered that I can see but why is he not showing in the results as a guest driver? Very odd.
There is the option to eject a driver from the server if they are not registered.

Maybe it wasn't him? He was on the server during Qualifying for sure, but I'm not sure he actually started the race. Got to look at the replay, maybe the server dropped him if he started late, from the pitlane?

He started from the pitlane!
In my replay he is there. In the race history graph vou can see: his speed is matching Clives...

But where is the server replay?

Jens started the race as a guest for the Pink team as a very late entrant but too late to register. Neither I nor Clive can actually register people even if they vote. The other driver did not take part. I wasn't aware of any bad driving but if you would like to let me know by PM I'll look. In the end he was disqualified because he took a Lola by mistake. It was easier to delete him from the results than to include him and have to set up a new profile etc etc.

As for the replay apologies, I forgot to upload it. Mea culpa. Should be there now.

I know what you are thinking - "lazy mods sheesh..."  ;)

Thanks Paul  ;)

:chef:

My race report

I had the Mirage again on this familiar track.
The Quali wasn't my optimum, but for a long race I had to set up a reliant car.
In the race I kept my position, maybe I should have let Phil pass me earlier as he became faster...
Last turn lap 11 I couldn't avoid an collision with Phil who had spun and my engine got sour.
Should have done an immediate shift+r but did another slow lap before I finaly did.
Rest of the race I had some fight with an unconsistent driving Dave til the last lap.
Was confused about the flagmen waving all colors and did not know if it was allready over.
So Dave got the chance and took my place...

:chef: