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Title: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Adam Parle on July 20, 2011, 04:18:50 PM +0100 (http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/5168/i7precopy.jpg)
With the cancelation of todays maintenance, it's unclear whether the content will be out in time for this race .... If it is then it will go ahead, obviously. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 August Post by: popabawa on July 20, 2011, 05:11:30 PM +0100 Awesome ;)
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 August Post by: Javier Torres on July 20, 2011, 05:36:10 PM +0100 Cool!! Looking forward to this test!!
Question! I've already signed up for the series, is there an independent sign up for this session? Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 August Post by: Darren Seal on July 20, 2011, 05:58:48 PM +0100 Welcome Javier. No additional sign up is required for this race.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 August Post by: Javier Torres on July 20, 2011, 07:37:26 PM +0100 Cool! Thank's man!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on July 20, 2011, 08:18:13 PM +0100 « Last Edit: Today at 08:01:51 PM by Adam Parle »
;) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Adam Parle on July 20, 2011, 10:28:52 PM +0100 No damage done eh Rob!
If only mistakes on track were so easily fixed! Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 21, 2011, 07:27:42 AM +0100 Going to miss this as I'll be in Dearborn, MI. >:(
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Adam Parle on July 21, 2011, 08:15:38 AM +0100 Going to miss this as I'll be in Dearborn, MI. >:( Are you back for race one? Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 21, 2011, 11:23:40 AM +0100 Are you back for race one? Should be - I come back August 6th. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Blunder on July 21, 2011, 05:54:36 PM +0100 Am drooling at the prospect! ;D
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Sobbyoscar on July 21, 2011, 07:58:51 PM +0100 Hopefully *fingers crossed* I can make this!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Adam Parle on July 22, 2011, 08:24:35 AM +0100 I'm away on holiday for this unfortunately - bit gutted really, but I'll be making all the regular season races.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on July 22, 2011, 08:33:03 AM +0100 Ooh, yey, new car, new track. Something to look forward to.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on July 22, 2011, 10:18:25 AM +0100 All these times I watched Senna driving like a mad man around Suzuka, cant wait ;D
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 22, 2011, 11:36:27 AM +0100 If you could refrain from driving like a madman I'm sure everyone would appreciate it Rob! ;D
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on July 24, 2011, 09:40:28 PM +0100 Yeh thats my job!
Are the cars & track 100% definitely out by then? :whistling: Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on July 24, 2011, 09:42:34 PM +0100 Should be they are out in Week 13, which starts Tuesday 12th, but may be wednesday before we get it?
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: JazzGreenway on July 24, 2011, 09:59:35 PM +0100 Should be they are out in Week 13, which starts Tuesday 12th, but may be wednesday before we get it? By 12th, I assume you mean 26th ;) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on July 24, 2011, 10:05:51 PM +0100 Should be they are out in Week 13, which starts Tuesday 12th, but may be wednesday before we get it? By 12th, I assume you mean 26th ;) oops ;D Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on July 24, 2011, 10:12:23 PM +0100 ...oh just saw this from Pops
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9643.msg175949#msg175949 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9643.msg175949#msg175949) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 25, 2011, 05:56:05 AM +0100 They've scheduled week 13 races around the new cars so it's just a question if when the new build is available, nothing is scheduled yet but we should know in the next day or so.
As Rob says, Wednesday is best bet based on previous experience. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: RikW on July 30, 2011, 12:19:34 AM +0100 By agreement with Adam, Legends League will be running official practice servers on the Monday & Saturday before each of the Endurance Sundays races, starting this Saturday.
Server name: "TWFR/SRouk Endurance Sundays Practice" Password: usual SRouk practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929) Times: Monday - 19:30 UK time Saturday - 19:00 UK time The format will be 60 mins practice, 2 laps private qualifying and then a 40 minute race to give people enough time to practice dealing with traffic. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Blunder on July 30, 2011, 08:59:55 AM +0100 Great fun this....
1.50.5 so far in LMP2 but that is very slow apparently! Gregor and the like will be nearer 1.41's ! :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on July 30, 2011, 11:14:26 AM +0100 Paul Richards is breaking into the 44s !! i managed a high 46 so far but staying on is proving harder :P
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Reign Man on July 30, 2011, 11:46:27 AM +0100 Great Track. Suzukas always been a favourite of mine. The live timing is also a nice touch.
2.04.9 with the GT40 so far with baseline setup. (lengthened final drive to stop hitting limiter.) Going to be doing some setup work today. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Moose on July 30, 2011, 01:39:28 PM +0100 I'm currently suffering from the horrible stutters many are reporting at Suzuka. If I can't find a solution before Sunday i'll have to pull out of this race I'm afraid.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on July 30, 2011, 02:09:11 PM +0100 i had the same Moose :(
I usually have graphics on high and get 90+ fps and on those settings at Suzuka i was getting 20-30 fps with some freezes of over a second... I adjusted the graphics to low detail and now it averages 60 fps and stutters a little when people join sessions and the odd random one occasionally but no long freezes and drivable :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Moose on July 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM +0100 I can adjust the graphics so I get 100FPS min, no problem. Stuttering and pauses still occur :( It doesn't appear to be frame rate related for me. I'm running out of ideas.
All other tracks are just fine. Ran a multi class session at Spa yesterday, and even when the FPS dropped to around 80 it was smooth as butter all evening. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: fpolicardi on July 30, 2011, 03:48:49 PM +0100 I hope to be back home in time for the race tomorrow. Cu maybe for tonight practice :)
Ciao Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on July 30, 2011, 03:49:24 PM +0100 It's that animated ferris wheel! :laugh:
No problems here, although the replay is no longer smooth with that new "blurovision" setting on. Ford GT sucks though and the LMP2 is hard. Was doing same times as Blunder when I could keep it on the track. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 30, 2011, 08:50:39 PM +0100 I'm really enjoying the Ford GT, it's pretty frustrating at first but if you treat it right it feels pretty good :D
2:08's for me so far, hopefully there's a second or two to to shave off that but maybe not by tomorrow evening :P Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: picnic on July 30, 2011, 09:32:57 PM +0100 Not managed a clean lap yet tonight in the GT40, Forever locking up the breaks, well that's what it feels like except the replay shows the wheels continuing to turn. The lack of tyre smoke with the NTM isn't helping.
Did you do much to the setup Pops? Once I'm in the degners and get understeeer I'm doomed :( And that's sometimes getting on the power rather than just going in to fast. Can we include the Skippy in the series ;) I can almost drive that, only almost mind you :( Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Don on July 31, 2011, 06:31:17 AM +0100 Drats! I hope I can get back in time for this, something unexpected has come up.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Fred Basset on July 31, 2011, 08:32:00 AM +0100 After going a few rounds wrestling with one of our hounds to get him to the vets and then home again I've got a bad back so I doubt I'll make this one.
Have fun y'all. Gary Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on July 31, 2011, 10:10:19 AM +0100 jesus Gary... what was it a great dane? lol ;)
Manage to string 20 laps together in the HPD an online race and get wiped out (again). Usually its people spinning off the grid.... a bit slow though consistently doing 1m48s HPD has got to be one of my favourite cars :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 31, 2011, 11:10:21 AM +0100 Pete, move the front ARB to +5.0, that seems to help me get it to turn better. Other setups are using 0 so I'm not entirely sure what's 'correct' tbh.
I've moved the brake bias back a bit so it's a bit more stable, I've taken the wing down a bit for the long straights but I might need to add a bit more back on to make sure I last the 90 mins! Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: fozzmeister on July 31, 2011, 11:31:02 AM +0100 FordGT: It has diff settings, like GTR, though they effect does not seem to be as dramatic. I'm mostly trying to alter my style as it says in the release notes (keep the nose down)...
Anyways I'm slower than most of you, so please ignore! Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: picnic on July 31, 2011, 11:44:48 AM +0100 Pete, move the front ARB to +5.0, that seems to help me get it to turn better. Other setups are using 0 so I'm not entirely sure what's 'correct' tbh. I've moved the brake bias back a bit so it's a bit more stable, I've taken the wing down a bit for the long straights but I might need to add a bit more back on to make sure I last the 90 mins! Thanks Pops, just been trying several setups off the iR forum. One blokes done a 2:01 on one of them :o I've tried his setup but I can't do a clean lap. Driving like Miss Daisy I fall off because no tyre temp, push a little and I fall off as they're too hot. Almost at the point of giving up :( Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 31, 2011, 12:06:48 PM +0100 Yeah, it is a frustrating car. I was stuck around 2:11-2:12 for ages yesterday then something just clicked and I was down to 2:08's.
I found watching the fast guys helped. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: fozzmeister on July 31, 2011, 12:38:12 PM +0100 Im at 208 now, can be up 0.7s in any sector, at random still!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: w_pienaar on July 31, 2011, 02:34:27 PM +0100 Hi, I'm Willem. I'm looking forward to my 1st endurance race with the league. Will be attempting to compete in the Ford GT.
Was someone able to find some sort of setup that works on Suzuka. ??? See you tonight. :P Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 31, 2011, 02:48:39 PM +0100 Same here Fozz. I just can't break 2:08 despite my optimal now being in the low 2:05's.
w_pienaar, there's set ups posted on the iRacing forum you can try but failing that I'm sure someone will share tonight. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Reign Man on July 31, 2011, 03:23:03 PM +0100 I did a race in the GT yesterday. My last lap (lap 22) I did a 2:04 flat so the car holds up well over a stint. The only thing I have changed on the car is the dampers so far. It makes a massive difference. I have no consistancy though. Decreasing the front rebound helps alot with high speed understeer.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Fred Basset on July 31, 2011, 04:48:47 PM +0100 jesus Gary... what was it a great dane? lol ;) Bloodhound - a large one. We had hell and all job getting him in the car and then the vets but once in he seemed to like it and then wouldn't come out without some more fighting. In the short time I've had with it I quite like the HPD too. I'm well off the pace of Messrs Richards and Harrington though. Regards Gary Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on July 31, 2011, 05:34:11 PM +0100 Any chance of a last moment addition to tonight's race? I'm back and can take part!!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 31, 2011, 05:34:59 PM +0100 No problem, just jump in!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on July 31, 2011, 05:43:04 PM +0100 race still on?, or was is called off?
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: popabawa on July 31, 2011, 06:24:16 PM +0100 The race is still on Rob, it was only questionable because if the release delay.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Reign Man on July 31, 2011, 07:45:41 PM +0100 connection crapped out on me and I couldn't rejoin.
Hope ya had a good race. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Paul Langford on July 31, 2011, 08:01:46 PM +0100 What a waste of time that was....lasted 7 laps...span myself out twice, never done it in practice lost my nose had to pit came out lapping the GT40 guys who seemed completly oblivious that they where being overtaken, very annoying as I had been practicing all week but you cant practice people driving in to you and changing lines through the freekin corners when your trying to pass >:( >:( >:( >:(.....Nevermind I'm sure we will all get better at it as the season develope's
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on July 31, 2011, 08:04:31 PM +0100 Gotta say I absolutely loathe the new tire model. Can't feel anything, no idea whether I'm about to lock the brakes up or whether I'm using too much power or what. Total pants. Maybe it's the car, I've not tried the Skip Barber, but there is no feel at all with it.
My race was a disaster. Following Purdie through the kink near the end of the 2nd lap after a very cautious 1st lap and for what seemed to me to be no reason the car is unable to go through at full speed anymore, back end breaks away, bam. Pitted for repairs, same thing again two laps later after I'm up to full speed on my own through the kink, back end whips round, bye-bye, bam. Eh? I had no problems going through the kink at full pelt before even with high fuel, bizarre. And what's with the very low speed physics on the tires? At 5mph you should practically stop dead and the tyres should bite into the track. Instead they lock and you roll for ages. Bizarre. Brake lights of other cars weren't working either which is very unhelpful. Car just feels plain wierd, the feedback and steering is odd to say the least. The power steering is nasty as you turn and then turn again and then turn back and then turn again, you can't just turn at the right amount, it needs constant change, horrible. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Bernie Lomax on July 31, 2011, 08:14:12 PM +0100 Apologies to Robert Lawrie - was a passenger when I hit you Rob, nothing I could do.
Was shaping up for a good battle as well, looked like we were very close pace wise Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: RikW on July 31, 2011, 08:20:35 PM +0100 Not a very auspicious start here and my worst race performance for a long time :(
Qualifying was, er, not optimal ;). I had two reasonable chances at a clear run but messed them up and every other lap was badly affected by traffic - most not anyone's fault I hasten to add, just a result of having such different cars on the track together. 3rd on the grid was OK but it was nearly a second off my PB. At the start I settled into 3rd and was just taking it easy with the fuel turned down but on lap 3 or 4 we came across a GT car at the exit of 130R. Shouldn't have been an issue and I had passed other GTs there without problems in practice but this time I pinched the car a bit to take a narrower exit, started to lose the rear, over-corrected and got stuck in the tyres. Came out and a few laps later managed to bin it at Degner when passing a GT and not slowing enough for the tighter line I was on. Really disappointing to end up crashing twice for such silly self-inflicted mistakes. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Mike Wrightson on July 31, 2011, 08:32:24 PM +0100 Moved up to 5th by just staying on the track, braked a touch late into T1, spun off and knocked the wall, then spun again at the next turn. Lost the will to live at that point. I don't have a lot of confidence in the car, need to improve a lot if I'm going to enjoy this season.
We seem to have an even worse situation than last season with lapping though. Ford GT's are faster on the straights and (in comparison) hugely slow in the corners. We thought the Mustangs were slow, these are even slower! Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Rob Lawrie on July 31, 2011, 09:03:20 PM +0100 Apologies to Robert Lawrie - was a passenger when I hit you Rob, nothing I could do. NP.. got away with no damage, that was to come later which ended my race with Jasper. :(Was shaping up for a good battle as well, looked like we were very close pace wise As for the GT, it needs taking in the back yard and shooting. Looking forward to the series. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: JazzGreenway on July 31, 2011, 09:36:29 PM +0100 That was erm... interesting. Qualified in second and jumped ahead of Adam at the start, looked like he was quicker but he lost connection very early in the race :( From then on the race went pretty well for me as I was building up a nice lead until I had an argument with my shifter and downshifted when I should have been upshifting. This blew my engine and I had to take a 2 minute tow. As I had no idea about fuel strategy I just filled it up again, didn't take tires since they were all on 99% anyway and went for it. To my great surprise I somehow got back in the lead so I made a couple of self spins to try and make up for that, but despite my efforts I still won the race as people behind me were falling off as well, with 0.6 litres to spare ;D
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: JazzGreenway on July 31, 2011, 09:41:28 PM +0100 Following Purdie through the kink near the end of the 2nd lap after a very cautious 1st lap and for what seemed to me to be no reason the car is unable to go through at full speed anymore, back end breaks away, bam. Pitted for repairs, same thing again two laps later after I'm up to full speed on my own through the kink, back end whips round, bye-bye, bam. Eh? I had no problems going through the kink at full pelt before even with high fuel, bizarre. I was driving the HPD earlier today and had the exact same issue. Went through there a few times no problem and suddenly the next time, woosh, back end slowly breaks away and there's nothing you can do to save it. I was watching a replay and the car was bottoming out heavily at that point so maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe a different line that unsettles the car? Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: picnic on July 31, 2011, 09:41:41 PM +0100 came out lapping the GT40 guys who seemed completly oblivious that they where being overtaken, very annoying as I had been practicing all week but you cant practice people driving in to you and changing lines through the freekin corners when your trying to pass >:( >:( >:( >:(.....Nevermind I'm sure we will all get better at it as the season develope's I think I was one of those GTs. However it's hard to see the cars in your mirror while trying to spot braking/turn-in points and because you were coming back up through the field no blue flags are shown. It's not easy for us either ;) After all my trials and tribulations practicing and not really getting anywhere the need to drive better because other cars were on track finally got me to drive more realistically and thus consistently. My aim was to get to the end and I achieved that. Was lucky with one proper off and not hitting anything solid, and had a few too many drifting wide off-tack moments but all in all I enjoyed that much more than expected. To get a class podium was not justified but I'll gladly accept it. Shame that there seem to be some bugs in the system. The obvious one is the random nature of the pit limiter, sometimes it works sometimes not :( Something I don't understand is why they put fat tyres on the GT40 when you only use 2/3rds of them, 99% 78% 79% was the OMI front left wear after my first 45 mins stint. All tyres should similar wear patterns. Something has to be wrong there. Anyway, great turnout, fingers crossed for grids like this all season :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Blunder on July 31, 2011, 09:49:59 PM +0100 omg.. loved every minute...
Was on the practice server last night and they ran a 40 minute race... used that one for all of my mistakes! :) Settled on a 2 equal pit stops which meant slightly lower fuel etc. so got quicker all the time! Even started to catch a few people... that hasn't happened for a while! ;D Had to be cautious overtaking... having spent lots of time in the lower/slower classes, I know how hard it is to do the right thing!..... it's simple, the faster car has to be more cautious!..simples! ;) Mind you one LMP2 was weeving side to side in front of me down one straight.. not sure what that was about? Soooo much fun, love the LMP2 car... gets better and better the more I drive it! :) Thanks all, hope the season is as good! ;D Apologies to Darren, watched the reply, looks like I squeezed you slightly :( Th Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Darren Seal on July 31, 2011, 10:09:06 PM +0100 Apologies to Darren, watched the reply, looks like I squeezed you slightly :( No problem Martin, luckily there was plenty of run off area. :) Not a great race for me, I've never had so many self spins. :-[ I'm really struggling to get to grips with the LMP2 car. I just can't feel what the rear end is doing. As soon as it steps out, it's gone, and there is no hope of recovery. :( Hopefully I'll find some more time to tinker with the setup before the next race. However, unless I can gain more confidence in the car, you'll probably see me in the Ford GT... Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: GizMoTo on July 31, 2011, 10:11:58 PM +0100 well being stubborn paid off stuck with it after i had real doughts about bothering the car is just ....well something didn't bother trying to qualify as every time i went out on track i seemed to be in somebody's way ::)
started from the back of the grid took it very easy to start with till I got a little more feel for the car then just ran as a testing run to see how the car felt with time ......to be honest I started having fun but still the FGT is just not right somewhere it just doesn't do as you expect it to even when your expecting it to crash it don't even do that right ::) had a few battles along the way, made plenty mistakes didn't touch a single other car unfortunately in keeping out the way I ended up doing way to many incidents running off track to be sure the HPD's had room ::) that was down totally to me just no confidence in the FGT with is unpredictable life of it's own at times ::) OH and the sodding game crashed 2 times just as I was having fun that's 7 or 8 times since the new build before the build I got the odd crash every now and again so there must be something different maybe it's the track or something seeing as both races I've done there it's crashed part way through so I'm gona have to investigate that before season start so on the whole finishing 6th in the FGT was a bloody amazing feat for me :o did witness some silly moves by the HPD's on other FGT's .not me I kept out the way ;) and I can't say who on who as I lost the chance to get a replay with the game crashing a little more patients is needed at time by a small few HPD drivers but on the whole things looked quote good and the series should be a good one Laters Ian Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on July 31, 2011, 10:43:27 PM +0100 I take back what I said about the new tire model, as I've just had a decent play with the Skippy around Lime Rock and it's better than I remember. I can catch slides I could never catch before and it feels better in general. It's still hard, but the fact that I can feel the car quite well is a good sign. I guess that means I don't like this new car, or the setup is pants (not to my liking). Certainly the GT40 sucks but that's not actually unexpected as it's a fat pig with no corner grip. ;D
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Mike Wrightson on August 01, 2011, 12:17:37 AM +0100 Equally I had a play with the LMP2 around Watkins Glen starting with the fixed setup and it felt a lot better to drive there. So the setup wasn't at all right for Suzuka.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Jamie Wilson on August 01, 2011, 02:20:04 AM +0100 A typical lap: (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/790534/iRscreenshots/hpd-testracevideo.jpg) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csecfdlasgw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csecfdlasgw) (Report to follow) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: James Yates on August 01, 2011, 02:55:36 AM +0100 Equally I had a play with the LMP2 around Watkins Glen starting with the fixed setup and it felt a lot better to drive there. So the setup wasn't at all right for Suzuka. I'd say Suzuka is probably the worst feeling track in the HPD with the default setups. I found it difficult to get something that was quick and that felt as good as it did at other tracks, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. As for the Ford GT. When you calibrate the wheel and it asks you to turn it 90 degrees to the left, turn it 180 instead. Stops it having the tightest steering known to man. Fun race that, despite having a pathetic accident - removed the front bodywork with 4 to go. Still finished 3rd though. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Burtoner on August 01, 2011, 08:02:27 AM +0100 Nice video Jamie, good use of PiP :)
Anyone got a copy of the replay? Thanks Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on August 01, 2011, 10:08:22 AM +0100 A typical lap: (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/790534/iRscreenshots/hpd-testracevideo.jpg) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csecfdlasgw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csecfdlasgw) (Report to follow) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on August 01, 2011, 10:11:59 AM +0100 On the video front, what would be really cool is a side-by-side comparison of the pole sitter with the No.2 placed machine. That would be v cool.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on August 01, 2011, 10:13:11 AM +0100 Is it normal for the lights to be on in this kind of racing during the day?
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: lazlow on August 01, 2011, 10:13:21 AM +0100 This release note from iRacing could help those who are struggling with the Ford GT setup:
Quote Ford GT - Now available! - The Ford GT is a tough car to get the handling balance right on. This is really based on the fact that it is a flat bottomed car, that's forced to run a high ride hight. 55mm is the minimum ride height per the ACO Rulebook. Now with the front and rear at minimum, you'd lose a lot of front downforce, so you really want to have the car running close to 10mm of rake as a starting point with all setups. One thing to remember when driving and setting up this car is that to get front downforce (DF), you REALLY need to close up the distance between the splitter and the ground. With a min ride height of 55, the only way to do this is to get weight transfer from braking, whether it's from lifting off the gas, or actively applying the brakes. Both will cause a downforce shift towards the front! HOWEVER, bottoming the splitter WILL cause the front DF to spike and then rebound will and cause all kinds of handling issues. Try to set the car up so that the splitter comes close to the ground, but doesn't actually HIT the ground under braking. We have found a front bumpstop gap of 13-19mm works fairly well, though running stiffer springs, you may not need them that close. - This is an AERO car first and foremost, so the low speed handling may be compromised by the choice of springs that will hold it up at high speed and high downforce settings! Depending on the nature of the circuit, you may want the car to trim itself out at high speed, so you'd run stiffer front springs, and softer rears. But if it's a high downforce circuit, you may want to reverse that balance so you can get the nose down on the ground in the braking zones, to help move the aero balance forward so the car turns-in well. Using damper rebound to help hold the nose down may work, but can reduce suspension compiance. It's a tough car to make work well, and will reward a patient driver with good speed and decent handling. Those that expect it to turn well without altering the aero balance may find it to drive like a truck! Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: picnic on August 01, 2011, 10:26:39 AM +0100 Lazlow, that does beggar the question "if they know all that why is it not implemented in the base setups?". However know that and implementing it are 2 different things ;)
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on August 01, 2011, 10:31:55 AM +0100 I must say the cars with really complex setups like the F1 car, the LMP2 and so on I just don't bother trying to setup because setups like that can only be tweaked by complete and utter setup nerds. I rely on one of those nerds to post a setup or I use one of the example setups from iRacing. One page of setup options is the most I want!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on August 01, 2011, 10:57:44 AM +0100 I must say the cars with really complex setups like the F1 car, the LMP2 and so on I just don't bother trying to setup because setups like that can only be tweaked by complete and utter setup nerds. I rely on one of those nerds to post a setup or I use one of the example setups from iRacing. One page of setup options is the most I want! ditto i have no clue on it either. I know of 3rd rear springs but never touched them. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on August 01, 2011, 11:01:52 AM +0100 I don't really believe you can feel half this stuff in a game either because you have to rely totally on steering feedback, sound effects and visuals, you don't get any genuine feel of what the car is doing.
They do seem to miss the fact that this is not reality and as such we need a bit of help! ;D Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on August 01, 2011, 11:05:03 AM +0100 Is it normal for the lights to be on in this kind of racing during the day? Yes, this is correct. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on August 01, 2011, 11:08:11 AM +0100 I don't really believe you can feel half this stuff in a game either because you have to rely totally on steering feedback, sound effects and visuals, you don't get any genuine feel of what the car is doing. They do seem to miss the fact that this is not reality and as such we need a bit of help! ;D The feel through the wheel and through the seat is 90% of the experience. Recently I did 30 laps in a GT4 car at Kenilworth test track and racing last night on a sim was a very different experience -- much harder!! (some nice video below): http://youtu.be/uq2XWBlDo8I http://youtu.be/bwoAXLdHwb8 http://youtu.be/pBEREiQvg7U Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Moose on August 01, 2011, 11:20:41 AM +0100 Thanks for hosting chaps. Really enjoyed that.
Sadly the crappy new FFB in these NTM cars doesn't help the experience. The complete lack of feel of what the tyres are doing makes it bloody hard work. The race was still a lot of fun though. Not seen the results posted (might have missed them..) so here they are RESULTS (http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?subsessionid=3871829&custid=29018&fb=1) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: fpolicardi on August 01, 2011, 11:55:46 AM +0100 Nice video, I was in in my Italian tricolor GT when you lapped me at Spoon, luckily in that occasion I didn't anything wrong :angel:
Anyway the GT is a very difficult car to tame at the beginning, it took a lot of laps to me to be a minimum confident. In the race I used Basic Silverstone setup, it seemed to me better in the esses than Glen one. Anyway in these kind of races the challenge is driving watching forever in the mirrors to not cut the way to the lappers LMPs, apologize for some misundarstanding happened in the process. Ciao Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: lazlow on August 01, 2011, 02:45:21 PM +0100 Lazlow, that does beggar the question "if they know all that why is it not implemented in the base setups?". However know that and implementing it are 2 different things ;) I agree Pete.I had a go with the Skippy @ Okayama and the base setup was awful, I was spinning off at nearly every corner. I then found this (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDQQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simleague.net%2FslSkipLeague%2FSkippy_Tuning_Guide_2011_S1.pdf&ei=rKo2TtygHYnChAfFq9X8Cg&usg=AFQjCNHLeMM4Z-7dn9OEFVhsbdkIgFVemw&sig2=4P16SEJZFwOaDCiWCjLD4w) guide and every setup tweak I did I went faster and faster, as well as improving the stability of the car. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Reign Man on August 01, 2011, 07:06:31 PM +0100 The base setup for the GT is horrible. Don't dismiss the car yet. It's early days and setups have yet to be refined.
Really gutted that I got chucked out, I was looking forward to this race. I'll see y'all next week. Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on August 01, 2011, 08:51:20 PM +0100 I don't really believe you can feel half this stuff in a game either because you have to rely totally on steering feedback, sound effects and visuals, you don't get any genuine feel of what the car is doing. They do seem to miss the fact that this is not reality and as such we need a bit of help! ;D The feel through the wheel and through the seat is 90% of the experience. Recently I did 30 laps in a GT4 car at Kenilworth test track and racing last night on a sim was a very different experience -- much harder!! (some nice video below): http://youtu.be/uq2XWBlDo8I http://youtu.be/bwoAXLdHwb8 http://youtu.be/pBEREiQvg7U great stuff mate!! smooth driving and wheel perfect it seemed Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: GizMoTo on August 01, 2011, 09:39:46 PM +0100 I don't really believe you can feel half this stuff in a game either because you have to rely totally on steering feedback, sound effects and visuals, you don't get any genuine feel of what the car is doing. for me one critical problem is the visual that is missing and that is tire smoke when you over do the steering and braking it's surprising just how much that can help you better your driving...well does for me anyway.........no smoke I'm not over doing things .........smoke I've screwed up ;DThey do seem to miss the fact that this is not reality and as such we need a bit of help! ;D Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: purdie on August 02, 2011, 12:09:52 PM +0100 Really enjoyed that race despite the fact I was struggling just to drive the car! Had 3 major spins and only one resulted in a fast tow. Managed to get up to 6th overall and remarkably it was the only online race at Suzuka I have had with no stuttering. Hosted Sessions must be unaffected.
Hopefully the season I'm sure will mature into a great spectacle! It shows promise :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 02, 2011, 07:37:08 PM +0100 Why is this still listed under forthcoming?
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Simon Gymer on August 02, 2011, 07:39:56 PM +0100 Because the results haven't been posted so the system doesn't know the event has happened.
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Paul Langford on August 04, 2011, 06:07:34 PM +0100 came out lapping the GT40 guys who seemed completly oblivious that they where being overtaken, very annoying as I had been practicing all week but you cant practice people driving in to you and changing lines through the freekin corners when your trying to pass >:( >:( >:( >:(.....Nevermind I'm sure we will all get better at it as the season develope's I think I was one of those GTs. However it's hard to see the cars in your mirror while trying to spot braking/turn-in points and because you were coming back up through the field no blue flags are shown. It's not easy for us either ;) ;D I take it all back....i had a go in a GT40.....they are a handful, prone to running wide........exits are the best time to pass, I did 2 24hrs of fun and got the hang of passing no prob :) Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: C3PO on August 06, 2011, 12:35:47 PM +0100 I don't really believe you can feel half this stuff in a game either because you have to rely totally on steering feedback, sound effects and visuals, you don't get any genuine feel of what the car is doing. They do seem to miss the fact that this is not reality and as such we need a bit of help! ;D The feel through the wheel and through the seat is 90% of the experience. Recently I did 30 laps in a GT4 car at Kenilworth test track and racing last night on a sim was a very different experience -- much harder!! (some nice video below): http://youtu.be/uq2XWBlDo8I http://youtu.be/bwoAXLdHwb8 http://youtu.be/pBEREiQvg7U great stuff mate!! smooth driving and wheel perfect it seemed Cheers! Some good aerial pictures here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNkOEH7qYw8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: Adam Parle on August 06, 2011, 05:13:47 PM +0100 Nice turnout ... shame about the number of discos!
Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Pre-Season Race - Suzuka - 31 July Post by: JazzGreenway on August 06, 2011, 05:28:04 PM +0100 Nice turnout ... shame about the number of discos! Myeah... people were still getting used to the cars though. From what I've seen at Silverstone this week next race should be miles better in that regard :) |