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UKGPL Season 21, 65 Professionals Trophy
Race 7: Bikerneiki

Welcome to round 6 in the old USSR (Well - this is 1968 ;)).
This looks set to be an intersting new challenge to us, a very pretty circuit graphically aswell as one that really seems to be a lot of fun.
Just remember: In Soviet Russia - the roads drive on you!

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 26/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Bikerneiki 68 - circuit of speed (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6146)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 50 minutes ( 35 laps)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used and can be found here (http://bit.ly/d8dECl) (currently down - also available here (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3765) )

Driver lists can be found on the Pro championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=305;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : SRMZ (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6146)
Add-on’s available at : SRMZ (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6146)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The race will be run on PRO Damage.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

I have just downloaded and tried this track.

Very attractive graphics and a great circuit. But be warned !! it is so very easy to make a terminal mistake  with all those trees about.

Oh yes! and where there are not trees there are concrete walls, and really tricky braking zones.

Could be a circuit for the Porsche Cup next season? Muhahahahahah  ::)

Unable to d/l from SRMZ

It says "you do not have permission to download this track from our fantastic website " , " so sod off and play conkers or something , you dim wit "


Or words to that effect  ::)

A lot of the tracks are in SRMZ. Did you try re-registering with a different username and different email address?
For info I use this free email for my spam account; http://gmx.co.uk/ (http://gmx.co.uk/)

Pointless IMO for the reason that when (not if )  I forget my account details again the same problem will happen

I also will need to remember "another" email address ?

I have trouble remembering my own collar size these days.
 
Whenever  I try a password re set with SRMZ I spend 3 hours scrolling through there authorising code till eventually I find one I can actually read and type in correctly , the site is so messy I really dont have any enthusiasm to go there , dont really want to spend half my day trying to "log in"

Wish SRMZ would sort this out or at least answer my emails   

I uploaded the track to my host, here:

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/downloads/biker68_v1.zip

I'm going to delete it after tomorrow though.

Hi Bernie,

To not be able to log in to SRMZ is really bad because it is so much stuff you miss. Not only tracks but also updates and utilities. So this is my take on the matter.

First, once you manage to log in do not ever log out again. Just let your log in stay, there is a box you can click when you log in, (remember me). After that your browser will make sure that when you enter SRMZ you are allways logged in, at least that`s how it works for me, because if I go to SRMZ using a different browser I am not logged in so it must be the browser that keep track of my logins.

Then I allways write down all my usernames and passwords on one piece of paper I allways keep by the computer, why should you remember stuff like that, better to remember braking points and stuff that really matters.

Göran

I think it's because Bernie bought a new PC recently, so he had to start with a fresh install with no browser login informations. I tend to use the same 1-2 usernames and 2-3 passwords everywhere, just to avoid forgetting them like that.  ;D It may not be the most secure thing, but it's not like someone's going to try and mess up with my UKGPL or SRMZ account... or am I far from the truth?  :o

Indeed this post was written by Bernie and the reply too :D

Not going to be available for this one unfortunately, so have a good time guys.

Hristo

Thanks ,though can't download yet till I get home tonight  :)

Goran

I have a "little red book"  with all my passwords and important stuff in it. I keep it in a very safe place , If I knew where that place was I "perhaps" could find it   ::)

As for logging on full time I believe I did that originally , since when I have had 5 PC's and 4 email address , with every change I have managed to find my way back through the SRMZ "Lost password" button , this time it doesn't want to work , I find it all a bit confusing it isn't just the new PC , I had this trouble from ages ago with my last PC .

For me I think there must be a problem with the re set password link, but to prove it perhaps one of you could test it out by reseting your own P/W ?

(hint) you can always re set to your original P/W again  ::)

Thanks again  :)

Downloaded the track from H , loaded it into GPL tracksfolder then realised I dont yet have the 65 mod installed  :oops:


In all the excitement of getting my new PC up and running with GPL , I clean forgot about this .

Slight oversight  ::)
dont want to rush things with my instal so if I'm not on the grid you know why  :-[

Best of luck Bernie  :)

 ;D Yaba daba doo  :jumpjoy:

Sry very sorry Clive !
Was my stupid mistake. >:(

Natan

Notice in results the server has me as disco ???

I was running at the chequered on my PC and other cars around at the finish -4 laps down but finished  ;D

My P6 would be the same however  ::)

When a driver is 4 laps down the leader GPL marks it as not classified (red in result page), I guess the SROUK import utility read this as Disco.
Ciao

I blame Hristo , obviously he should be penalised more , may I suggest we pull his plug out at the first sign of a blue flag being waved  :D

As soon as I brought the car on 3 wheels to the finish in the previous race, I vowed to prepare so well for the next one that I wouldn't have to deal with the likes of Nat whatsoever, so I started practicing one very same night back then, and kept doing practice runs throughout the 2 weeks period before yesterday. The fact that the track layout seemed rewarding towards driving ability more than car advantage was in my favor and so the only thing I had to do is get used to my new wheel and work out a good setup.

Neither was easy to do as braking while holding the wheel with one hand and dealing with FF at the same time took a while to get used to, and then the setup part turned out to be much more complicated than usual. In fact, I came up with a setup that felt both fast and consistent just yesterday before the race, after an hour or two of practice. I probably have about 20 setup revisions for this track alone now, lol. Although the setup didn't allow me to reach or better my PB from earlier days (which was a 23.7), it was easier to drive lap after lap and handled both T2 braking zone and the jump very well.

Qualifying went better than expected, as it appeared the others were simply not as prepared as I was, taking wrong lines or lifting up where they shouldn't, but still Raoni, as in all previous races, managed to do a very good lap and come within 6-7 tenths in 2nd place. I would imagine this must be a very difficult track to do with keyboard, so well done to him!

The start of the race was good and as always, Raoni dropped back because of using keys. I went a bit cautious in the opening laps as I haven't practiced with more fuel, but the car felt OK. The problem was you never concentrate fully when you ease off, so after a few laps I made a mistake in the braking for T2 and went off into the grass on the outside, but managed to rejoin just as Nat arrived.

From there on I drove just about flat out, only looking after the engine, and didn't make any big mistakes anymore, apart from a bad landing at the jump on one lap later in the race. By the time Tim appeared in 2nd place, he was too far back and so I only focused on dealing with backmarkers, most of which were in the form of Bernie learning the track during the race.  :D It was a close call during one of those times when I caught him up at T1 as he was going much too slow, so I narrowly missed him on the inside and then we braked side by side for T2 and he choose to go off to avoid hitting me.

Looking at the remaining races, Spa is going to be impossible to win or maybe even get a podium, so my only option would be to win all other races and see how the championship turns out in the end.

Sure you can win it. It wont be easy, but it's possible ;) It's not Monza, where on the exit from Parabolica, Lotus/BRM/etc. will allways be able to pass BT7/Cooper before the finish line.
Spa is completely different. As long as you'll be able to stay with the leaders till the end of the race(and this can be done ;) ), you can made pass at the last corner and keep it till the finish line ;)

Congrats to Hristo, FMG and Clutch.

Disastrous race for me. Connection issues to the race server for the second event in a row, wiped out in qualifying on my flying lap, then early retirement from the race due to a blown engine.

On the subject of qualifying, since we don't moderate this session, could I ask for a little more consideration. If someone is on their own flying lap don't close on them, dive down the inside of a corner out of sight, knock them off track and continue on your way. I don't care if you are faster, you should back off and make space for yourself instead of ruining someone else's lap.

Rant over, race over move on.

If I couldn't hold back Nat in BRM and Raoni in Honda at a track like Salzburgring, there's NO WAY I will do it at Spa. Unless you were being sarcastic.

Bit of a bonus result this one.

3 seconds a lap off the pace in Qually and suffering some framerate issues, so i decided just to hang in there and see what happened.

My race pace was a couple of seconds a lap off the leader, but i manged to catch a couple of people and got lucky avoiding some crashes. As in a couple of other races i had a good battle with G Jonsson, but after he went wide (i think) it looked like i had no chance of catching second, so decided to back off for the remaining 15+ laps.

Towards the end H was catching easily as i slowed my pace a little so i was happy to let him by and do one less lap to secure 3rd.

My result was lucky, but made up for my unlucky DNF on the grid at Salzburgring so i have an outside shot at the Championship. I can't win it on pace or talent, so will have to hope that i'm in the right place at the right time. Its certainly anybody's Championship with 5 people in with a shot, with others further down the standings capable of taking race wins, so who knows.

Well done to ALL finishers on this difficult track. To survive it was an achievement.  :)

Amaroo Park next. Only done a few laps and couldn't get into the groove, so not too confident

I'm not trying to be sarcastic Hristo.

My point is that with proper use of the tow, BT7/Cooper can keep up with the leaders on tracks like Monza or Spa.
The biggest difference between those tracks is the distance between exit from last corner and finish line. At Monza this distance is very long and BT7/Cooper will be easily overtaken by faster car. At Spa this distance is a lot shorter plus La Source is very slow and tight corner and IMO next real/safe opportunity to pass is afther Eau Rouge.

Yes, but it depends on the drivers in the faster cars. At the Monza race last season I could keep up by using the slipstream and even have a shot at victory, but that was partially because of some incidents on lap 1. Nowadays we have someone like Raoni who's fast in both corners and down the straights, and then there are BRM drivers who pull away so fast that if you lose the slipstream for even a moment, your chances are gone. Anyway, I wasn't complaining, just thinking out loud of my chances. There are no guarantees I can win the other races, anything can still happen. The starts are usually critical as the BT7 simply loses ground after the first 100-200 meters.

One of the hardest sequence of corners to learn was the final fast right then left onto the pits straight Then the bit into the slow right .

There I was thinking " getting the hang of this place now "

I had just completed what I thought was a "good lap"  going into the slow right , all the time watching for signs of the leaders coming up behind when suddenly mid corner Hristo appeared as if from nowhere, right alongside me (scared the "jimmy brits" out of me he did ) couldnt beleive the speed you were doing that sequence H , really made me realise how crap I am these days , though after watching you and Tim on the replay I realised why I was losing 5 secs or more per lap there due no doubt to not using the full track width on the corner entry, and to be honest with myself I wasn't feeling to good having not fully recovered from my dentist's physical abuse attack on some root canal work that afternoon  :o


And yes I was unlucky not to have taken you off , must try harder next time  ;D   

That's a slightly mute point as we, technically, can also look at anything in qualifying. You can submit a report and indicate a time and make it clear it was in qualifying.
The Penalty Guidlines don't say 'during a race'.

That's a slightly mute point as we, technically, can also look at anything in qualifying. You can submit a report and indicate a time and make it clear it was in qualifying.
The Penalty Guidelines don't say 'during a race'.
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I made my point and that's good enough for me. I had a bad night of my own doing primarily and really need to get my ongoing connection issues sorted. But thanks for pointing it out. Hopefully others will heed this information if they are not aware of it already.

Which Amaroo Park for the next race, 1967 or 1996 track??

67 :)
I think it should say that in the signing on thread, apologies if it doesn't :-[

Edit: Just checked and it didn't say. My fault, have updated it with the correct link now - Race thread will go up on Tuesday will all the relevant details so as to avoid cluttering the forum too much  :)

A better set of track cams for Amaroo67, can be found here :  http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2528&st=12

Modding has been completed  :)