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WELCOME TO THE UKGPL SEASON 21 HISTORIC (66) TROPHY 

For the eighth round we stay in Germany once again. The Schottenring track is a simple straight forward track, maybe, be aware.

There will be full moderation of lap one, and then reported incidents for the rest of the race. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Best of luck.
 
Race List =            iGOR
Server =               UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =         62.149.202.168
Race date =          2-8-2011
Time =                 21.00 UK time
Track =                Schottenring     German Championship Race
Variant =              66F1 2L engines
Damage Model =   PRO
Qualifying time =  35 minutes. Do not start driving until 30 min left.
Race length =       Pro Long (9 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/Schotten/ (http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/Schotten/)


Group I
T1F Eagle Climax
Lotus 33 Climax

Group II
Brabham BT11 2.5lt
Lotus 33 BRM


GroupIII
Ferrari 246
Brabham BT11 BRM
BRM P261
Brabham BT11 2.7lt


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Hristo Itchov


Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II or Group I
Tim Muttram

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

Password: see above

(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standing page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=304&theme=6)

Aaand...the game decides to CTD at the very end of practice. Perfect. Fuck that.

Only one minute of racing  :-\

N. Smith seems to be very wanting to pass me at the race begin.
Finally, I decided to let him overtake me ...but it was a bad decision, because 5 seconds later he spun just in front of me and I had no possibility to avoid him !

Next time, you should let increase the t° of your tyres and be more patient, especially on a long and difficult track.

Sorry for you N. (Nigel ?) and ...also for me !   ;)       

       After a long lay off I was looking forward to a gentle tour around a very scenic track [congrats to the makers] and was encouraged by what I thought was a very easy to drive default setup on the Lotus. Come race time a decision was made to run the Fezza along with my Waza-mate Blood, having no practice time at all in this red sled, this ,perhaps wasn't the wisest decision. A car that gripped only rarely in the corners led to only getting one timed lap in qually, but a good start could make up for that. Except the grid was so loose there was no sight of the flag, damn.
       For some strange reason the car handled well throught the first section down to Schotten village and I was encouraged to put a move on Dave at the fast left at the top of the hill, slipping through on the inside with two wheels on the grass. I think Dave was thinking safety first because that, in hindsight shouldn't have been so easy. Then, to repay his kindness I completely lost it in the following chicane and he was unfortunate to be collected by my wayward Fezz. Big apologies Dave for ending your race so prematurely, though its nice to see I'm not the only one good over the fences :-
       Its a big shame 'cos I really do like this track, and look forwards to it being included in another seasons schedule.
       I can only repeat my apology and hope to give my next outing a dose of maturity that UKGPL deserves.

I lost the rear end in one of the cobbled sections - I think Raoni lost control trying to avoid rear-ending me and went into the barriers ending his race (Sorry Raoni), sod's law then stepped in and I lost a wheel to an invisible tree 3 or 4 corners later  :-\
Schottenring isn't a safe place to trumdle about on 3 wheels so I parked her up in a field and quit  :(

Well done to anyone who finishes!

    Tough luck Tim,and Raoni, you seemed to be going well both of you.

It wasn't your fault Tim. I would have crashed even if you hadn't lost the rear or even if you wasn't in front of me. I missed totally the corner. :P I was thinking that the next corner would be that one before the chicane, but I forgot that we have a sharpen one (in 3rd gear) before that. So I entered very fast, crashed into the fence and lost my left front wheel.

I have to say that I was lucky for not hitting you, because I missed completely the turn :-\

Anyway, we had a nice battle, it was being very funny. Shame that it only lasted one lap :laugh:

Sorry to all of you fell off or crashed...

But


WAHEY 4th PLACE!!!

Just knew I had to drive steady. Span every time I wanted to go faster and visited the Police Station once or twice :)

Slow as treacle... but I got there...

*edit H said in iGOR that I didn't know the track... shocking calumny. I prepared for this race with TWO whole laps. ;)

Sorry if I got in anyone's way.

Nige, next time ignore me and take the Lotus...

80mph average - no wonder I only got into 4th once :D

That was a very unforgiving track!  For some reason I couldn't get comfortable in my chair so I decided to swap it.  I spent most of praccy fumbling about trying to get everything set up so I didn't manage a single full lap!

Anyway I knew I'd be well off pole so I decided to drive steadily and try and pick up a few places.  The plan worked very well and before long I was in 4th place with some very quick guys behind trying to recover from various incidents.  I had Evil behind me at one stage and he must have had the fright of his life when I braked for a corner that he obviously takes flat!  There was no point in trying to race him as I'd have run the risk of taking us both out because my lines were so much slower than his, so I pulled over and let him past at the banked right hander.

From then on it was just a matter of trying to stay on the tarmac, easier said than done.  I bent my suspension on a fence somewhere around lap 2 and after a couple more glances off the odd straw bale and tree the car was handling quite badly :(.  Nevertheless managed to get it to the finish and claim a rare podium :jumpjoy:  Unlucky Ronnie, I though you had 3rd place sown up.  The champagne tastes great ;D.

Wish you hadn't...  ;D

Kept getting lost in the countryside , nien duetchen sprachen so calling in at the local cop shop to ask the politzen was a waste of time, even though I tried on every outlap during qually  ::)

Race was over when I left a wheel in someones garden fence on lap 2

Went to the pub for a Frankfurter but couldn't find Frank anywhere  :(

Next time I take Thomas Tom with me  ;)

Grats to all 3 finishers esp. Phil for overcoming all odds and to Paul for his persaverance    ;D  

Not forgetting Hristo for yet another tiresome drive cough! erm! great win  ;D  

What a great challenge!  It took several attempts, to accustom to the Servers affects on ye handling, but once dialed in, I settled for my first timed lap.  The plan was, to find some clean air at the start, and avoid studying the internal components of those around me.

It all worked out perfectly, right up to lap 2.  Rounding a curve in the fast uphill section, the racing line was to hug the guard rail to the right.  But the rail had other ideas.  It suddenly flung me left, across a field, and into a fence!  I managed to hang onto my extremities, and continued on, but the motor was gutted, umm . . . gutless - the power was gone.  And, unable to steer with the tail, I soon became another victim to the trees.

I went back, to take another look at what had happened, and while rounding the bend, a tree had reached through the armco, and biffed me!  So, another sad ending, to a race I'd looked forward to.  One seems to be having trouble making the finish line in 1966.  But I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, or perhaps a glorious blaze, than to trundle on a scenic countryside jaunt, or succumb to an unforeseen hazard. >:(

Annoying, the builder of such a track, should fail to cut down a tree,
On Sunday I was miffed, then on Tuesday, biffed - felled by a mischievous spree!

Wish this championship had started 3 races ago... I'd still be in with a shout...

Spa is not exactly a car eater although there is plenty of chances for racing incidents so I am not hopeful of a high finish there but I would hope to finish. Zandvoort - not my favourite but plenty of chances for T1 incidents that will propel me up the leader board. I could still get a top ten finish by lapping at an average of 133%...

Goran reckons next year it will be a 95% rule to score (I think he was joking), which would mean lapping at 110% or so. Might have to get a bit better...

Well done to H who has secured the championship barring the race result being overturned in modding.

Tim I lost the RF wheel after you at the very same invisible wall during the same lap :(
I wasn't aware of that tiil the folowing turn when the car spun cause when I lost the wheel the car went straight on unaffected  ???
I tried to do another lap with 3 wheels, is this covered by rules ??, till I lost the RR wheel on a tree :(
Very though track for my eyes with those sharping graphics, a bit like Hocken67, anyone suffered of that?, and very difficult to learn when you join with 15 min. to go and you realise that it isn't the track you had thought to race  :o

Ciao

A little gutted to blow an engine rather than bury the car in trees to end my race here. Lovely track and at least I made over half distance to pick up some points. Due to the retirements ahead of me I soon found myself in second with no hope in hell of catching Hristo who was flying! However Goran in third was keeping me honest and I pushed a little too hard on the gas to keep him at bay and bang that was that. Grats to the podium and that man in fourth, name escapes me........, but well done......... Paul.

Wondered what happened to you RP. I was worried about blowing an engine as well. So I kept fifth gear in the bag...

Three wheels Fulvio - you looked pretty quick to me... but I am still counting that as a racing pass ;)

Thanks, Bernie, but despite what looked like an easy victory, I kept pushing all the way, as a challenge to myself. I think it's something of a record, but each next lap was the fastest, all the way from lap 1 to and including the penultimate lap! The final lap was set to be even faster but then the engine lost power and started smoking, so a shame about that one. It also robbed me from any chance to lap Fulvio.  ;D

I last raced at Schotten in 2005 or something, in 67s, and it's brutal and scary in those. I think the lap times at the front were 5:06-07 or something. I needed a couple of laps to remember the track and to figure out how to lap it in the Lotus 66 Climax, plus the gearing was tricky to set with such a narrow torque range, but it all worked quite well in the end. Oh and I did know about the invisible trees that take no prisoners, so I guess that was another advantage on my side.  ;D

It was disappointing to see so many retirements though, I still don't believe some of you entered this race without any or with just little practice. The track is just so demanding...

Grats to Paul for 4th!

lol Phil !!  Yes you did scare the living daylights out of me when you braked!!
and Yes I do normally take that bend absolutely flat, but that is difficult with a Fezza obscuring the horizon..lol

I think I have only raced this track once before and although I had a fair idea of what comes next it took me all of qualli to hook up a half tidy lap. Multiple trips into fences hedges and ravines prompted several changes to the setup which gradually improved the cars predictability and I was relatively confident of a good race.

My big mistake became apparent just after the start, I had not loaded the modified setup for the race and still had an almost default setup on the car. It became very obvious that this race was not going to be fun when the car refused to brake and turn at the bottom of the hill!! :o and I took the chicken route behind the wall and mixed with a few locals to discuss the finer points of pils lager.

By the time I had performd a 3 point turn and climbed the grass bank I was in time to see Paul and co in their Ferraris coming down the hill. I set off after the field and was amazed at how fast I was catching cars despite discovering that 6th gear was about 3 revs different to 5th and I was having to back off on the straights to protect the engine.
I had a couple of minor offs and excursions and one detour around the bridge through the cobbled sections where i was surprised to see someone else follow me??!! Maybe they thought it was a shortcut??? ::)
To be quite honest the setup was terrible and I was overdriving even that, plus my mind was not fully focused on driving and the inevitable happend and I watched a wheel or two complete more of the race on their own than they ever would have attached to the car I was driving!!

Grats to all the finishers and a especially for Paul who drove within himself and got a deserved 4th place.....a podium beckons  ;D

             HELP
 Tried to launch GPL last night, but it sticks at the track green button or crashes and displays an error message. Wont launch gpl.exe or any of the mods from GEM+.
        PANIC PANIC :o
 Can't find any specific relevance on the FAQ's, have tried restart and GEM rebuild to no effect, and all the different rasterizer settings.

Have you added any car graphics? Or sounds maybe?

Have yo utried Bob Simpsons FAQ ? Seem to remember there being something about not having all the car sounds in the car sound folder that caused that sort of thing  :-\


http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3714 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3714)

           Nothing new added, but noticed I needed 3 goes to get into S'ring the other night.
Thanks Sky and bernie for your replies, will try the sounds tonight.

Never had the specific problem you have so not sure what to suggest, but if you need to reinstall and/or start deleting files, MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP YOUR PLAYER SETUP FILES first, you don't want to lose them.

in Gem pick your 66player and change state of the carsounds tickbox , so if it's ticked untick it or visa versa .

if that fails to work go to your 67 player and change the state of the carsounds tickbox and then change the 66 mod settings (try both) , one should work ...

after that try running gpl67 and check that still works ok , if it does not alter it back to it's original state .

if none of the above works then delete/move the gplc66.exe and let gem rebuild it (this happens when you exit gem) .

john

I had an issue once where GPL67.exe would not launch from GEM it would CTD but it WOULD run if I used the gpl67.exe directly. It was some Windows patch crap that had caused the problem. In the end I rebuilt from scratch - it was easier in the long run. As soon as I had a working setup - I copied the lot to a backup folder and whenever I get a problem (which usually coincides with some Windows 7 nefariousness) I restire for that folder. Had no problem since.

If you do decide to rebuild, remember to take a copy of your players folder to save those precious setups...