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Hello everybody,

After Vitus, Sepang, Road America & Sakhir, GTWeb is proud to announce the organization of a new endurance race on GTR2. This 24 hours race will bring together up to 52 teams and will take place 15 & 16 October, 2011. As usual, the entire league will be mobilized to ensure the smooth running of the race and to make it a major event in your Simracer experience.

For the occasion, we will revisit a classic because it's the circuit of Spa-Francorchamps that has been chosen. To pay tribute to this legendary track, we have made ​​every effort to offer you a mod at the height of the event. Several categories are available, each with its share of new cars. All these surprises will be revealed in the coming days, the full mod and the circuit will be provided before the end of the month.

Our home-made Live Race Standings (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4612) in its latest version (the product of about 500 hours) and specially designed for endurance races will once again be used to make you live this event in the best possible conditions.
Please visit the video (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4612) to take into hand tool and its many possibilities before the event.

See you soon !

GTWeb website (http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/)

Event's Forum (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=125)

 :clap: :clap: :clap: here we go again!

Sure Legsy will be chuffed with the track choice  ;)

fingers crossed for some LMPs again ... but otherwise GT2  :)

Even though it's Spa...( ::)), I'm still excited & mentioned only a week ago on TS that hopefully the next one of these would be announced soon. Yipee! ;D

Woohoo! what.. mid Oct! why so far :(  ;)

Spa..hmm. i guess this will be the modern version, one i've not seen in GTR2 yet, should be interesting.

The comments about the classes make we wonder... How different are they going to be? The spa 24hr race is for GT3, GT4 5 6 and 7 (grr too many minor classes) So does this mean we might do GT only race? Say GT1, GT2 and GT3 type clases?

The GT1's in the gtweb classes are pretty impressive, you already have gt2 in game and some addons....

intriguing.

drooling already!

Be patient  ;)

looking forward to this with eager anticipation  8)

Im in, cant wait. :)

I'd like to drive whatever car we're racing with that has the most wing available! I'll need the help! :laugh:

I'd be for the lower class team, LMPs are not my league. :)

GT Web have given UKGTR permission to use their physics from their Bahrain mod (UKGTR LMP2 pack coming soon) so be extra generous with any donations you send their way. :)

If there are any LMPs available at this next 24Hr race the I would like to be in one of those.

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Do you know how many teams you should engaged ?

Probably two teams I imagine.

Is it just the GT1 class this time?

Deux other classes will come in the next days  ;)

Based on some logic from me, i would say the GT1's are the fastest class.


(They've not relased the details of the car in reverse order before)

I guess we will try for 2 teams again, we were borderline though last time.

I'm tempted by GT1  :o

tasty lineup of GT1 cars  8)  will see what other classes are on offer first but more than happy with a GT1 ride.

Well, we did GT1 class in the last two events, so I'd like to try something new. :)

Small Print: Though I'd also be keen to take a car in whatever the slowest class is. Slower might mean I can get through Rouge too :-\

i'm guessing GT3 then! would be good to share a cup car....  :)

Oooh Porsche, yes please :tt1:

Hey guys!

It seems like there is some real enthusiasm here to do these 24h races.
I've been thinking of doing one of these again for a long time and if you'll have me I'd like to join one of your teams.

I'm sure we can find some 3h space. :)

Sounds good to me. I was expecting to have to do an audition or something.  ;D
I'm pretty much ok with any car/class and Spa is a nice track so I'm ready to GO!

well you are from finland... thats usually audition enough with driving!  ;D

maybe join the GTR2 league if you fancy a run out?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9767#event2844 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9767#event2844)

Well remind me to thank my parents for that.
I'll take a look at the mod and maybe I'll be there on sunday.

Always exciting events, thanks for inviting us again :)

I'd fancy a GT car if there's room in our team.

If you want to get in the mood for this event watch the Blancpain 24hr endurance race at Spa that was on just recently. Mega grid of about 56 cars with a superb array of every know GT car involved  8)  Including the new Mclaren which was stuffed into a wall in the pitlane  :P

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FERRARI 458!!!!! :drool: :thumbup1:

Yea! GT2 with F458 would be for me. :)

 :drool: :drool: :drool:


GRR this isnt fair!!!!!!!!! Are you sure we cant run in more than one team ???

I see were going to struggle to agree on cars  :fencing:


My favs so far GT1 nissan, GT2 Porsche and probably the beemer

we'll need to make more than 3 teams to satisfy eveybody !  :laugh:

I'm very keen to drive the Porsche!

If we win I could be one of the few people in the world to have won a 24hrs in a GT2 RSR in real life and online  8)

oh lordy lordy, this will be awesome, best line up yet for the GTW Enduros  8)

Think i am going to have to go with a GT2 drive ala Pork, as ive always run well here in one and love the opportunity of racing it against a big euro grid, though certainly some stunning other cars to choose from too.
I take it this is an improved version of the 997 over the slightly duff one with flawed physics, thats been around for a while in sim land?
Think we may have to run a duel srouk team combo of a 458 and 997 !  :P...ooh inter-team rivalry  :fencing:

And will we be using the modern incarnation of Spa with the new final chicane, thats both challenging and a great overtaking opportunity ?

Very good point. Just had to look up the 'Evo' bit as I didn't realise it was the 2011 version. So be interesting to see how much of the physics they have played with.


Well Spanner/me/MJ so far for Team Lizard  ;)

Yes, the new chicane will be there  ;)

I'm ok with any car.

excellent  :)  You do know you have to paint every single kerb and armco barrier yellow and red now to make it authentic  ;)  Preferred traditional white and red myself.

Go Team Lizard  8)

We can't have two teams in one class, right? Can we have two cars in one team - i.e. MJ drives a porker and I drive F458 while we're in the same team?

When a league is coming with more than 1 team, we prefer that these teams were in different classes, except if it good for us, to have enough cars in each classes. For exemple, if we don't have enough team in GT2 class, we could allow you to put your 2 teams in this class.

Truetom, i'm not sure to understand your question. You mean that a pilot could drive for two different teams ? That case is not allowed. A pilot is engaged in a team and he can't drive for another team, event if this second team comes from the same league  :-\

lol same here. One car type per team TT surely?!?  ;)  :laugh:

Err..., ok. :P

One team, 8 drivers, GT2 class. With me so far? :-* 3 drivers use F458, 5 drivers use 997 RSR. Yes or no?

Have you been smoking something you shouldn't of TT  ;) That makes no sense   :P

What 24 hour race have you ever watched when they change cars half way through? or manufacturer  :D

 :lol:

I think the best we can hope for, if we really have demand for two GT2 teams, is select our main one and submit the secondary team as a reserve. Then by the sounds of it, when registration closes, they will be able to tell us if we're allowed to enter the 2nd team...

**cough** unless a few of us leave ukgtr for a month and start a new team and rejoin post-race  :D

(only joking GT24hrWeb admin)  ;)

Ok, ok, I'm just trying to smuggle in more GT2 drivers. Why can't we have one team with F458 and one with 997 RSR? I know, I know, rhetorical question. ::)

Nice 8)

Obviously I've not tried them yet, but on paper I'm instantly interested in the:
BMW
Fezza
Jag

Though I'm still interested to know if there is a 3rd or even 4th class to choose from?

I'd be surprised if there isn't 3 or 4 classes... I mean where are the protos.  ???  ;D

I'm very keen to drive the Porsche!

If we win I could be one of the few people in the world to have won a 24hrs in a GT2 RSR in real life and online  8)
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Doh!!! only just realised who you are lol, explains EVERYTHING!!!!!!  ;D

I have a hunch we wont be running the protypes. The real spa 24hr only features GT's


Not sure about driving anything slower tbh, No problems with GT1's before, we are capable!

Yay, I'm in. However, I'm not 100% sure if I'm able to join the race at the moment but I'll let you know as soon as possible. :)

Hi guys, just showing up to say hi after a long time. I've joined iRacing and enjoying it a lot.

I loved the last 24h race in Bahrain though so depending on my motivation after summer I may end up joining this event again if there's a slot. I'd like to drive in a faster class if that's the case, but at the moment don't count me in cause I wouldn't like to let anyone down at the last moment.

Greetings to all :)

Would be good to have you as a teamie for a change.  ;D
I'd also like to drive in a faster class but being new around here I'm ok with just a spot to drive.

As I believe we have enough potential drivers for two teams I think we should go with each driver's priorities and wishes. I'm with GT2 class. I'd like to try the porker and see about the straight line "wandering" in dry and wet. If the car has the same problem as GTR2 2006 mod I'd prefer the fezza. :)

porker is listed as 997 RSR 'Evo' TT, so i am assuming its an improved version of the normal online 'wandering' 997  :)

shame we cant run two GT2 teams though in different cars, it would be great to have the traditional inter rivalry of Porsche v Fezza here as well as competing against all the other top teams.

We've not seen all the classes available, so don't think we should be signing any contracts just yet MJ :-\ ;)
You never know how tasty the next class might be :drool:

I'm not sure your'll see the same level of interest in a GT3 class compared to a GT1,  LMP1 or LMP2 class. We've never had much interest in the slower cars here.

I might be up for a drive in the Porker.

I'm sure you're right, I'm just suggesting we at least wait to see all the options & then maybe test some cars before we commit :laugh:

hmm i think the porsche gt2 team has been assembled?

is that Porsche 1 - 0 Ferrari  ;)

+1

I was just highlighting some of the cars i was looking forward to trying out when we get the car pack :angel: especially with a fetish for racing pork :P

 From my experience with the GT1's they bare no relation to the cars we drive here. I wouldnt assume they drive the same at all!

Personally, I would like to see a GT1 and a GT2 team.

Here is the latest category :

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What a fantastic line up of cars!!! The grid is going to look stunning....I can't wait.

wow what a list of motors  8) very 2011 its pretty impressive

Hope they drive as well as they look but doubt it in the case of the Alfa. Stunning amount of work put in :)

Thats a simply amazing line up of cars, you should sell your work to Simbin and show them how its done when creating new and interesting car sets. Top notch work  8)

I could happily race in all 3 categories. Sadly my wife doesnt share my enthusiasm  :laugh:

 :wacko:

Sorry GTWeb, did you mean 'the latest' (as in there is another still to be announced) or 'the final' category?

Either way, the line up looks stunning :tt1:

P.s. Is it just me, or do the GT3 class have more power than the GT2's? :laugh:

lol thats a good point

GT3 cars have bigger engines than GT2 but they are also heavier. So, on 1 lap, the GT2 is 2 or 3 seconds faster.

Hope we can get the cars soon and decide. :)

Just few days more to wait, but it's coming  ;)

Shows how out of the loop i am,i didnt realise most of those cars had been modelled.

Do we have any room left on this, could well be up for it providing my pace is good enough? Would like to try the cars out and see how I compare before committing (don't want to be the weak link in the team  :-\ )

As of yet Jamera we have no idea on numbers so the more the merrier. You dont need to be fast, just safe! Its a 3hr stint you need to do, with 8 people in a team if you didnt know.

Howdi...i may be interested..just depends how rusty i am with GTR2, been off it for a looong time

ahem, just as long as I can remember which button is PTT & which is the pit limiter lol  :-[

Welcome Jamera, RR. :)

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All informations HERE (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4687)

Looking good!
Any idea how big the initial downloads going to be? I'm forever fighting with free space on my HD & just need to know how much I'm going to need to clear?

p.s. Yes I know, I need to sort out a proper long term solution to disk space :'(

Its 270 Mb

Do we need to be signed up for the event in order to download three mood!

No, but you need to register on their site.

My preference is GT1 first, GT2 second and GT3 third.

I dont mind driving any of classes that is just my preference. I have not tried out the mod yet and have no idea what car I would like. Again, I would not mind driving any of them. :)

As there is a tiny weeny unbelievably small minute possibility, that one of the GT3's could shockingly be a joy to drive... I'm going to wait till I've tested a few from each class (even including the Pork :o) before I begin to guess which I'd like to drive the most.  :-\

Anybody got any early feedback? (yes, I am giddy with excitement :-[)

I spent a good amount of time on the server today in the RSR and really enjoyed it  :) Just the right mix of adjustability and edginess to make it interesting. I always like the fact that the 911 moves around a bit as it helps you 'read' what the car is doing. I did try a couple of other cars: the 458 was in some ways easier to drive at first but was harder near the limit - I would not enjoy racing it that much I think. I also tried the Maserati and it was pretty good. Again, a good mix of adjustability and liveliness.

I think that the GT2s and GT3s are going to find it 'interesting' when it comes to passing in the race, as the GT3s have loads of power but a bit less cornering. An obstinate GT3 could be a real pain to a GT2 driver without the skills to set up a pass.

Come on Chris. The 911 at Spa - how can you resist?  ;D

compared to the GT1's last time, the few GT2 and GT3 cars i tried briefly on defaults seemed pretty safe. setups werent too radical and pretty easy reasonable but most suffered with understeer. Probably wont take too much with any of them to make them how you want it to be.

2:21:5 in the porker after a few laps (best was 1:18). Anyone have any setups ready? :)

Did my first laps tonight, tried out each car in the GT2 class.

Most of them are actually pretty much all Ok & laptimes were fairly even, spread over 1.5 secs in this fairly non-scientific test (all were high 2:22 to low 2:24's).
Fuel consumption in all is within 0.1 per lap, so no advantage to be gained there.
The Spyker seems to have a slight advantage with lower tyre wear than the others, mostly they were all very similar again, but the Lambo & BMW tyres did seem to suffer the most.

If the race was tomorrow & I was picking the GT2 car from tonight's testing experience:
Top Choices:
The Aston, immediately felt really good to drive & sounds amazing! Could change, but my favourite on first impressions.
The Jag, feels a spot heavy/understeery, but very easy to drive (as I think Spanner mentioned) & setup could only improve this car.

Worst Choices:
The Lambo & Spyker (& maybe even the Fezza) felt really fast & actually were, but I'd not have any confidence trying to keep them on track for 3hrs.

You can try this, although it was nothing scientific - just a case of take the default and tweak it for balance, steering lock and brake bias:

http://simventure.co.uk/KC/paul%20rsr%20race%201.svm

I got into the high 19s with it.

Thanks Paul, will try it when I get home. :)

I did a first little test on these cars last night,

I liked the Nissan GTR in GT1 felt nice straight away.

GT2, 458 was nice but lively at the rear, 997 was ok and the Jag was nice.

The GT3's all look great but i didnt enjoy driving them, seemed like they all are very understeery and not much fun. I guess setups could improve them though.

Are we gunna have a get together on the server for proper testing soon?

is it me or do the Mclaren and the Merc look too long? maybe its my graphics settings.

Also i noticed the 997 doesn't have the updated rear lights.

I don't care about any of this btw, great mod, just being super-super picky

Online/offline, how much fuel, what tires?

I'll do a few laps in some cars and report back.

Jamera - You need to edit your GTR2 name (lobby or in-game) can't remember which but its here -

http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=GTWeb_Endurance&page=EndurancesErreursPLR (http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=GTWeb_Endurance&page=EndurancesErreursPLR)

Nice one Spanner & Ade on registering two teams already  :thumbup2:

Pure quali for now, softs, low fuel. :)

Dont get me wrong the mod is exceptional just my personal preference for the faster cars.

sorry mate i was commenting on my dull observations of the graphics.... not your opinions  ;)

Tried the 997 and it felt pretty nice as Porsches usually do.  I did 2.21.1 online in Practice 1 session in full race trim = medium tires + 100L of fuel.
After that I tried the Lambo and it was just awful so no way I want to drive that one.

Btw TT, the session is pretty important to know too because offline has loads more grip... and if you want to compare lap times. I never practice offline anymore myself.

I stuck two teams in early on to try and get in quick and thought i'd better stick someone down as a driver and Ade was first on list for us! Dont worry Ade! Its not binding just yet lol

Sorry Mikko, yes, online. :)

Thanks TT. It's all good.

Tried out some of the GT2 class this eve. Excellently modelled cars, they look great in game. :)

Tried the 997, the 458, the aston and the Gallardo.  I actually found the 458 and Gallardo's easiest to drive straight out the box and instantly on the pace. Shame the 997 sounds like a cup car but it looks great with the remodelled body ala 2nd Gen 997. Needs more transmission whine!  ;)

Great work on this car selection though, the grid will look fantastic.  8)

Do we need to register as individual drivers? or is the team entry sufficient for now?

Drivers need to register individualy on the website (for those are not yet registered) and then, the team manager is the only one who could add you in the lineup. A (near) complete team should be better, considering the number of teams who want to enter the event.

Tried a few laps in the GT1-GT40 tonight, high 2:13's which would put me about 40th on the leader board (http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=GTWeb_Classement&page=classement&manche=334&game=1&archive=0)
Nice car for a GT1 ;).

Did some GT2 testing on the server last night with the Aston & the 997. Loved the Aston, very easy to drive but very little feedback when I was approaching MY limit with it. Rocky start with the 997, but the more laps I did the more I liked it  ;D. Struggled a bit with the setup though, not as quick with it as I know I can be, have any of you regular Porkers got a setup you can let me have have, feel I need something a little bit more edgy

I posted this earlier in the thread:

http://simventure.co.uk/KC/paul%20rsr%20race%201.svm

Did some laps in the Murchielago.
Online Practice 1 session of course. In race trim 90L and medium tires my best was 2.12.0. Quali trim best time was 2.10.2 though I only did one lap for qual.

thanks Paul was very solid  8)


very competitive for GT1 judging by the times  :)

Doing some quali laps now in actual Qualifying 1 session.
2.09.4 so far...

Well ended the session with a 2.09.2
Fairly happy with that and I don't think I can get much more out of the Lambo... seems I got a best Lambo time so far anyways.  :o
I will try the Ford tomorrow and I have a hunch it's going to be quicker.  ;)

I`ve got meself into Low-Mid 22`s for 100L fuel on the Porsche now..so i think i`d defo prefer to be in GT2 if possible

2.11.9 in for and the MC12 today in P1 and race trim. 2.09.3 with the MC12 in Q1...Ford I haven't figured out yet for Q.

I finally tried out some of the Gt1's for longer than half a lap, only a few timed laps mind but Clearly i've got a bit of work to do as i was doing 20's. :ninja: :wetfish:

 Trying out the Porsche wheel for the first time and tried using the adapter to plug in my G27 pedals but looking at the responses it seemed to knock off the top end and reduced the resolution (thats my excuse anyway!) At least i was consistent though, within a few tenths each time.

I'm not panicking yet, i normally get quicker as i get small bursts of practise in nearer the time, but might have to reconsider the Gt1's if i cant improve much.

I got the GT3 RS a couple of months ago and it took me ages to get used to / setup properly, but stick with it as it gets much better and now I prefer this to the G25 that I had before. I find it doesn't feel as solid, but now the settings are correct the feel is much more subtle, more realistic

Pedals:- Fanatec do state somewhere that if you run G25/27 pedals through the wheel (their own USB pedals as well I think) it DOES reduce the resolution. Get the CS out and setup, I'd be really interested to hear how they are as I'm considering getting some myself.

Tried the Z06 today and it's faster atm in race pace with a 2.11.6 in P1 as usual.
Wasn't able to nail a good quali lap yet but still did a 2.09.7 and will do more later... this in Q1.

The more laps i do around this track, the more i grow to dislike this version. Maybe my memory of the iR version is fading but it Pouhon seems so different, very narrow and tighter than i remember it even on the standard track, i'm reallt struggling through there as i'm finding i have to change down and slow down so much. The last chicane feels very narrow especially on exit.

Oh mate, I think you need to not be braking through there or you're going to get clouted up the rear by a suprised following driver :-\. I think most people are keeping their foot planted or doing a tiny brief lift there.
Try adding a couple of clicks of rear slow bump and/or removing a couple of clicks or front slow rebound. Both those changes should help get you round there in sixth without (or minimal) lifting. :)
Increasing the rear roll-bar would also do the trick, but that will impact corner entry also.

Lol dont think we#re driving the same track! I'm approaching in 6th, and have to change down to 4th because its alot tighter than i've seen it before and i'm still understeering off. I have to change my whole approach to this corner now and am not sure how :-[

-0,1 front toe works wonders for me. :)

IMPORTANT : http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742)

seems a decent enough spread of car choices to me  :-\ as long as all the cars are covered to keep it interesting, it shouldnt really matter if there is only 1 or 2 of a certain type, whilst 6 or 7 of another, as that generally reflects real world racing anyway. More surprised that only 1 aston has been chosen, whereas the BMW is the most popular  ??? They must know something we dont!

ps...is there an AI fix for this circuit? Very frustrating having AI cars stranded at the top of eau rouge and (old) bus stop chicane areas every lap, and i dont like offline praccying with no other cars about as it gets a tad boring.

yeah same here, tried doing a race weekend and first lap and jag was sitting there doing 5 mph lol

Spanner, what three car choices have you got our GT1 & GT2 teams down for (in order)?
As I don't think our GT1 team has started narrowing down our car choice yet  :-\

Randomly i put down FordGT, Corvette then nissan for GT1.

Porsche, ferrari then Jag for GT2

GTWeb have released our car numbers:
http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742#p111033 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742#p111033)

GT1 #35
GT2 #36

Here is an update to the three car choices made by the team managers
http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742#p110508 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742#p110508)

In GT1 the MC12 & Ford GT seem to be the most popular and in GT2 its the Porsche & BMW

i still dont see why they think 6 porkers or 6 beemers out of 25 cars is a big number for GT2  :-\  Looks a nice spread of first choice GT2 cars to me. 4 teams have gone for spykers !  :o

I could have told you that, i came up with them!

sounds like the Porsche drivers are stubbornly refusing to change, much like Porsches design department ;) :P

6 BMW & 6 Porka's
1 Aston & 1 Lambo

Now I didn't use a calculator myself, but 12 vs 2 is not really a great spread :-\ ;)

I would imagine the best solution would be for them to remove some weight from the GT2 Aston & Lambo, to make them more attractive to teams. I would imagine it would only take two teams to swap & they would be happy?

So when do we decide? :(

Hm, both servers are busy with the GT3 event  ???

 ::) you should be in politics Legz with that selective use of figures ! Conveniently leaving out the 4 spykers and 3 fezzas  ;) Surprised only 1 lambo team though.

MJ, I think their disappointment lies in the fact that after their hard work with the cars, there are 25 GT2 teams & of that, only 1 Lambo & 1 Aston. Hope that stating it more clearly.

Maybe they're not that balanced then. :(

(http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/images/news/2011/24H_Automne/Race_test_1.jpg)

=> RACE TEST N°1 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4802)

Cars are balanced with their race performance but much pilots try them with soft tires and 15 or 20 liters. And some cars are also easyer to ride. Spyker or MC12 seems to be made for hotlaping on this track. But with fuel and tire wear, that will be another history...

Anybody else fancy the test race?

If you do GT2 then I might well be interested  :)

I might as well. :)

Would if I could but not around unfortunatly.

One other thing, the live timing page dosent seem to recognise when I'm on the server anymore, I show up in the list of folks who are on the server at any given time, but on the
Main list of times it says I was last on there 31 august...and Purdie can verify I was on there last nite? Is it possibly something tO do with not been assigned to a team yet? Or is there something else goin on?

yeah i should be able to make this. Will try and get some praccy in next few days if i can, as hardly been near my pc lately due to work demands  :'(

What would be handy is if you super quick fellows did a timetrial and/or replay for us mortals to chase down, always speeds up the 'up to speed' process. Though i suggest we do it via pm's than open forum...dont want our rival teams getting the low down  ;)
Some setup sharing could be useful too, again via pm  :)

Jon/Paul..you have mail  ;D

Will try and make it, though it depends if I go and the watch the LMS @ Silverstone

Yeah, I'm interested in the test race.

Lol me too! The weather forcast is putting me off atm. Never thought i'd turn into a fair-weather fan ???

But if not i woudnt mind doing it, as it seems sunday is a bit quiet here!

Your not wrong! This place used to be a bastion of quality endurance racing on a sunday eve, now its a ghost town  :'(

That wasnt what i meant :( But i'll not go into it.

If people are interested, dont you think it would be a good idea to let them know on their forum?

I guess i'll say deffo no now then, what with 3 things going on on sunday night, i cant do them all.

Shall I enter our GT1 and GT2 teams for the race then?

Yes please. We never turn down a volunteer ;)

OK done :)

Oops, forgot about this.

Checked the registration issues page on gtweb and your not on there so no obvious problem. ( Though noted Paul968 was mentioned there!)

I would make sure when you are on their server you make sure you do at least 3 consecutive timed laps. This is how you get recorded on there practise times page which you dont appear on either. For some reason their times are based on a 3 lap average(?) so you might not be doing enough to be recorded. 

That looks like a bug in their code, because it seems to have picked anybody with a player name with numbers in. Gazza is also mentioned. This is despite the fact that just above it says that the player name should have a max of 10 chars and 4 digits.

I see they've updated the list of how many teams want each car a couple of days ago:
http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4742&sid=35fd174caf1594aa5e2779198fa65726&start=20#p111653

MC12 is now massively the most popular GT1.
Porka now leads most popular GT2 too.

Seems ok again now, me name on
Live timing is Daniel Johnson, login name for the site was roadrunner.
Said I'd not been On since end of Aug up till a few days back with 14 laps done, then when I improved me average it all updated to 70+ laps :o and seems to do "live" updates now

Max in 20 caracters (and 4 caracters for the ".plr").

Gazza is mentionned because we notice a problem with PLR name mixed with alpha and numeric caracters. We'll post something about it quickly.
It's strange but it seems that such PLR Name cause problem to other pilots who use triple displays.

Would be interested to work out how your going to allow 79 teams to run! 3 servers? Not much multiclass running, each class will have a server!

Good to see you've recovered from your brief bout of enthusiasm earlier in the week :laugh:

So our GT1 team has spoken & wants our car choice list updated to:
1st Choice = Nissan
2nd Choice = MC12
3rd Choice = Vette


On top of that, following this further update from Mikko:
It seems sensible now to have Mikko join the GT2 team, meaning our two teams look like this:

GT1 Team Gazza H@L SBG Lazlow Legzy API JonM Spanner

GT2 Team Purdie MJ TT Jamera Paul968 Road Runner Reissuleipa ?

p.s. Sticking with good news, speaking to Ade on TS the other night, he seemed fairly keen on joining the GT2 Porka team, but we'll await confirmation here first I guess?

We won't validate more than 78 teams and we'll have 3 sessions with 26 teams in each. We'll use this process for the race test tomorrow, even if we don't have 78 teams for this test.

Yes please ;D sign me up for GT2, Ill drive the night shift again if that's OK.

                                                                           Cheers Ade

You realise its the Porche Ade? Just want to warn ya ;)

Is it defo the Porsche? Or not?

I'm so disappointed that the multiclass racing will be almost non-existent this time round, for me that was what made the racing so good. I suppose it was only a matter of time before people started to realise what a great event this is. :(

will it? Where does it say that? I assumed it would still be a mix of GT1,2 & 3 on track.

TT, i flipping hope it is the Porsche considering i just spent two hours practising with it and tweaking setups. Still not totally convinced with my setup, but took 2+ secs off my race pace now from 2 days ago  :)  Just need to do some wet testing now  :o

Lol, a whole two hours practice?!!! :o :lol:
You should complain if you don't get the pork! ::)

You tweaked my setup?!? >:( Give it back! :D Mail, please. ;)

No TT, i tweaked my own setup.  :) Will pm it to you, though looking at your spring settings, it will feel like a cosy armchair compared to your skateboard ;)...though i didnt actually get to try yours yet.

Feeling bitter Legz?  ??? whats with the constant anti porsche sniping?

He's just jealous there's not a GT1 Porsche to drive. :-*

Just to clarify things, who in the GT2 team is expecting to race on sunday? If there is room I would rather not do the night stint.

If I'm right that the last stint starts at 9.30 uk time then can I have that slot please?

I can drive any or none and do Laguna race instead. :)

Is anybody painting any skins for the cars?

Are there more than 3 GT1 drivers who want to take part? If we're just one over I'll drop out as I need to sort this PC out anyway. If we're a load over maybe we can enter 2 GT1 teams.

If your night driving don't forget this headlight mod
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=2906
And we all need to be on teamspeak for the change overs  :)

TIME SCHEDULE

- Free Practice :16H
- Qualification 20H23 : 5 minutes ( Fisrt session only )
- Race Session 1 : 20H30-21H30 (race session of 60 minutes )
- Race Session 2 : 21H26-22H30 (total race session of 63 minutes, running session approximately 60 minutes )
- Race Session 3 : 22H26-23h30 (total race session of 63 minutes, running session approximately 60 minutes )

we take an hour off each of them for our time zone i believe.  I can do race sesh 1 or 2, preferably 1 please, though perhaps you want to put a stronger qualifier in race1?..not that it matters as its only a test race.

Qually is only 5 mins?...takes that to get around 1 outlap then a flyer  :o

ps...can someone remind me how we access their race server for the race this eve? Do we use the GTWeb mod bat file or via IP address etc? Completely forgotten how we normally do it.  :-[ Couldnt find anything on the GTW site.

You need to connect via ip address regardless. Their bat file start will change the hosts file, i think to confuse the authentication.

Thanks, where is the IP address listed?

Do you want to do the middle GT2 stint TT, Mark take the 1st and I'll finish off?

Ok. So when do I drive in UK time? :)

8.30pm by my reckoning, so you need top be on the server at least 10 minutes (and preferably quite a bit more) beforehand.

yes you will  be 8.20pm TT as you need to be in the server 10mins before the race start ready for me to shout go !

Will be using the GTW teamspeak server under our team...are we UKGTR Team 1 or 2? Though not going to chat much as it ruined my concentration at Sakhir. I'll leave multi-tasking to the women  ;)  ;D

Dont expect a high qually place, im still struggling with a light fuel setup. My race pace is okay as the car feels good with fuel in it.
Not done a race distance yet, how do the tyres hold up? Will be running meds all round and 100L fuel from the start. If my tyres go off late on will make a stop.

Still need an IP for the race.

SERVER INFORMATION

- Session 1 - GroupA & GroupB & GroupC => s1.gtweblive.com

- Session 2 - GroupA & GroupB & GroupC => s2.gtweblive.com

- Session 3 - GroupA & GroupB & GroupC => s1.gtweblive.com

I can't believe a stop is worth it Mark. The tyres should at least stay in 1 piece for an hour, you just might need to back off a bit near the end. I find with my setup using soft fronts and med rears that the fronts wear a bit faster so I get increasing understeer, but it is quite manageable.

okay,thanks. Found the IP's too, kept looking for a series of numbers ! Didnt know you could do an IP with a name. Just tried joining sesh 1 and all okay. Dont forget to run the GTW spa .bat to get all the latest updates or you will get booted as cheat...ask me how i know?  ;)

Hope it doesnt rain!..not done any wet laps yet, though my setup should cope if it does.

Good luck all, i'll only be getting on the server from about 7.15 as got to eat first.

Just did a few calcs, and I make it that it is pretty marginal whether a full tank will last the whole session. Did you guys check at all?

I think I'll need to do 30 laps, so max fuel usage per lap should be 3,3 l. I think it's right on the edge. :-\

Have we entered a gt1 team?
If we have, can I do the 9:30 slot please?

Think I'm gonna go in 1st
If I can't make it and nobody shows I'll go 2nd.

OK, spoken with jon who's  half way through stint one, I'll take over @8:30 for stint two...

Missed it, didn't manage to join the session in time. Jon still had 3+ laps to go, but session 2 had obviously clicked over to race session for them to sit on the grid. :'(
Lesson for the main race then, be more organised :laugh:

If nobody else arrives, I'll do session 3, otherwise I'll accept I lost my slot tonight

Bah, was running 9th with 4mins to go and oversteered out of malmedy into the armco losing my front splitter. Car then understeered horribly to the point of undriveable but with less than 4mins to go, and a healthy lead over the rest i tried plodding around the circuit, only to then roll at eau rouge with chronic understeer  :o. Another car ran wide and clipped me and righted the car! So with a totally smashed up 997 i crawled round to finish 13th  :(  What a cruddy end to a semi decent drive. Had hoped to hand over a 9th place car to TT but instead he got a pile of wreckage  :-[

I had used my 3hr stint setup for this 1 hr race and in hindsight could have dropped my top 6th gear a notch for more revs through eau rouge/radillion and maybe even 1 less wing as i was getting mugged down Kemmel straight by lower winged cars. (I had 8wing).

Ah well, all good practise, i was very race rusty as not entered a sim race of any kind for over a month i think, possibly even 2. :(

Good luck TT and Paul  :)

Well, was leading most of the race, then got punted 15 min before the end of session. Car damaged and I think I lost 20 sec to the punter in the end. Off to Paul now. :-\

Decided as it was much colder, to try running two 30 min stints with softs & a bit more wing to keep the rear temps down.
This unfortunately made the car a bit too safe/understery :(, it was still ok though really, just think I'd have to spend more time trying to get a 'cold' setup sorted :-\.
Running happily in 8th/9th (about where I started), I pitted nicely royally screwed up my pit entry & then over shot my pit, reversed & they thankfully still serviced me, but my button to turn the engine off didn't work no matter how many times I pressed hit it damn hard >:(, tried every other key & then tried my normal one again.... it worked this time ::). Exited the pits in last (16th/17th) after a 5:26 inlap+pitstop :laugh:
Finished in 12th, luckily I'd scrapped back past Paul in our GT2 team a few laps earlier :sweatdrop:

3hrs is going to be tough (as usual ;D)

Note to self - practice some pitstops in offline race mode soon

Started my session in clear air but about 25 secs down on the 2 other GT2s on the server (the rest were GT1s). This turned to 45 seconds after a GT1 decided to use me as a brake at Les Combes  ::) >:( Luckily the car didn't feel badly damaged and I could still do decent times (best was a 21.3 I think), but it was looking like a vain chase until the guy ahead pitted and came out 5 secs behind me. He must have changed tyres as he was a fair bit quicker than me whereas before I was slowly catching him. I fended him off for several laps before he got a run out of eau rouge and then got by after tapping me wide at Les Combes (again). He was going to get past at some point though, so not too unhappy. 3rd in the GT2s is not a bad result considering the problems we all had. I need to spend some time on the setup though to try to tame the understeer late in the stint. I agree with you Chris - 3 hours is going to be hard work!

Cant remember where i saw it now..but i dont mind giving a 997 skin a try, if ya point me in the direction of what ya want it to look like?

That reminds me, We've not got too long to sort skins out, 2nd Oct. All info from GTweb is here...

http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4620

Jim (Lazlow) has done some very tasty skins for us last couple of 24hr enduros  :)

One thing i wont be doing on race night is chatting! Only time i made mistakes last night was when either trying to talk or listen..i obviously cannot multi-task  :P With the porker being edgy here, you need all your focus. Kemmel straight is about the only place for a quick debrief.

Sorry, I've not been able to find what times this event actually starts on the 15th Oct & when each of the time slots are? (UK time if possible?)

4pm UK time I think.
It's 7.1 in the rules :)

IMPORTANT NOTE

Tomorrow (september 16 at midnight) is the last day before car's validation. Don't forget to check your choices !

Also, the race starts in one month today! :jumpjoy:


p.s. Spanner, you did correct our GT1 choice to the following didn't you?: Nissan > MC12 > Vette

Looks like both teams got their first choices  :)

Let the skinning begin 8)

Are you willing Lazlow?

Our teams looked like they only had 6 & 7 drivers ???

p.s. Bad luck to the B-Team on getting the Porka :P

Your mother was a B. :-*

Seems like we have only 6 drivers. ???

Spanner, did Skogkatt and svgptr contact you?

God sake, will you lot stop panicking at the slightest twitch!

Driving line ups arnt fixed till almost the week of the race. They were who i could remember or find in the list

They did TT, bit late tho.

Gazza, could you change your PLR Name (ingame and on the website) ?

We noticed that alphanumeric PLR Name cause problem with guys which use triple display. Gazza49er need to be changed in Gazza for example  :yes:

Ok i'll get on it ASAP  8)

(http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/images/news/2011/24H_Automne/Race_test_2.jpg)

=> RACE TEST N°2 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4890)

If our gt1 team will participate in the test race, I would love to race. I'm ok with any session but if there is a night one I could take that.

Ok API I've left a message on this (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4890&p=113453#p113453) thread saying the GT1 team will race on Sunday. If the GT2 boys want to race I can leave another message after my night shift or one of the GT2'ers can leave a message :)
Cya soon chaps :)

I'm going to sit this one out as we move house next week. It might be a good idea for those who didn't do race 1 to get a feel for the track and the start situation.

I agree, I will not race this time if not really needed. :)

I'l give it ago if anyone else is game?

It's definitely worth doing one, especially if you've not done one of the main events before.
I may or may not do this (GT1 if there's a spare slot), depending on if/when H@L posts a race thread up for Sunday? :-\

p.s. in test race one, stint two was a night stint.

Sweet...There times are 2hrs ahead of GMT arnt they..cant find the thing on there site now  :-[

Gazza, I've seen you changed your PLR Name ingame but you also need to change it in your website profil. Do it before the race test !  ;)

Yeah all done, sorry didnt have time to change it on your website last night.

As I'll have (most likely) a night drive in tomorrow's race, I was just thinking that will the "Xenon headlights" mod cause any mismatches while driving online? ???

No, I've been connected with it

Who are the GT1 contenders for tomorrow's test race? Like Paul mentioned it would be good for guys who haven't had a go to dip their toes :)

Is the gt2 team entered for tomorow as well?

Me, me! ;D I could take the night session (the 2nd one) if possible but I'm OK with any of them. :angel:

If there are no other GT2 takers then I'll take slot 3 again if that's OK?

#

and Yes, both teams are entered. Which slot did you want?

I'll happily cover the 3rd GT1 slot, but like I said, I'll give it up straight away for anybody that's not done one of these before. It would be a little advantage to take part in this if you've not experienced these 24h events before. So please shout if you want slot 3 (even if it's just before the stint starts, I'll be on TS & you can take it :)).

GT1 Test Race 2 Team:
Slot 1 = ?
Slot 2 = API
Slot 3 = Legzy?

Well if im right in thinking there times are +2 on us timewise, making it a 18:30 start..then im ok to do any session, if i`ve got it wrong then i can do anything after 16:30

The first stint will start at 7.30pm uk time (BST) as we are 1 hour behind western europe. Stint 1 is the hardest IMO because you start with all the other cars around you, but then it is also the most interesting. I would do it but it is a bit too close to family meal time. Is there anyone else who might like to do GT2?

I'll be on Teamspeak also, if nobody shows for stint one and I can make it I will drive. It was nice last time just to run some proper laps with the other teams instead of hotlapping :)

Ok, I'm good for stint 2

As nobody has claimed it yet I'll do the first stint in GT1, as I missed out on the last test race.

Hey Spanner, can you check if my name is down in the UKGTR Team 1. It doesn't seem to be showing in the practice times. Cheers

I'm on server for S1, but if anyone wants it they can, just shout up on ts, I'd prefer s2 as me wet weather setup ain't good ATM  :-[

Ok, though we have till 13th Oct to sort out exact drivers.

Your currently shown as James Hughes but seems to have your game username as Lazlow77 when i leave the cursor over your name in the practise 3 standings. Might be worth checking your profile.

Well that was disappointing in the end  :( Dan had unfortunately dnf-ed early in session 1, then did session 2 as well so I was hoping to try out the forecasted rain in session 3, but after a lap and a half I got the 'connection lost' message and that was that. As it turned out the rain never came to anything, which was a shame. Nice to chat to everyone though :-) It would be good in the real thing to get the team spirit working like that.

The results seem to have disappeared?
I think our GT1 team started & finished 10th (with Lazlow, API, Me).
Seemed really odd on the change over from API to me, he was the 1st one to cross the line in his session, so I was the 1st to start driving in my session, but the next driver was 38 secs back by the time he started & I managed to get round to the bus stop when "top deco" was called, meaning I instantly lapped a few people (on a 2:19ish first lap) ??? ??? ???
P.s. Managed to win the session, think I finished with about a 60sec lead :)

 API must have been in a session other than the 'A' server and won the session. Then off you go but the leader of 'A' session crossed the line before before the timer ran out and was maybe 1/4 of a lap in. It should all work itself out though but I can see how it would seem very strange :)

Don't forget the deadline for the skins invoice !

http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4620 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4620)

Well chaps, only two weeks to go before the big race. Has anybody had any thoughts about which sessions they'd like to do? And if we should have a 2nd covering driver for each session to help avoid a driver missing a session or if they have any connection issues?
I'm not sure if I'll be able to qualify because I'm on nights that week. Might take a holiday on that thursday tho :)

To fit in with the Family, ideally I'd like to take the early bird slot again. I think it was about a 6-7am start last time.

Don't care which, but not a night race, can't perform well there. Rain doesn't bother me. :)

Assuming it starts same time as test race stints 1,2,7 or 8 for me..quite fancy 2 as first choice though

Maybe I can start this time. :)

2 stints?  ;)

I'd like the last slot again if possible. If not, then a day or early evening slot on saturday.

Cannot get the the car to respond to anything, soft or hard the car feels exactly the same, aweful! Really not comfortable doing this at the moment.

For me spanner it was all about getting seat time and adjusting the way I drove to suit the car. I liked the car at first but like you I could get it to go any quicker and started to hate it. I've ended up with a setup not too far from my original one but with the caster set different. The main difference now is just the way I drive it(braking less and letting it roll in to the apex etc) and the lines I take. TBH it has been tedious at times but well worth it. 461 laps completed on Spa24Hour btw :o

EEEK no...Stint 2  :P, 2 stints should be for the faster guys who drive Porsche`s all the time... ;)

Seeing as our skins are in the updater thing I'm going for a spin in it 8)

(http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/images/news/2011/24H_Automne/Race_test_3.jpg)

=> RACE TEST N°3 (http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4968)

I'll have ago at this

Ok, I've added our teams to the start list :)

Bit happier with car now and managed to get down to a 14 dead on full tanks but am sure i could go quicker. Not sure what was going on, i went the wrong way with setup, trying not to get it bottoming it through Eau Rouge. Even with 2cm packers it still does it badly so i raised the ride height but it appears it ruined the aero and understeered everywhere.

It still means effectively the GT1 leader would be 4.5minutes in front of me based on doing the same number of laps over 3h :(

If I'm only ~2.5 laps behind the quickest bloke in my stint, I'll consider it 'a job well done', I think :laugh:

 I think it would be a major achievement just to finish all our stints with no crashes or disconnects and if we can do that we'll have a respectable finish. If not, no problem, I'll enjoy being involved more than any result.
 I really wouldn't worry about it though Spanner. Just relax and enjoy :)

Not seen anything from Jamera, either here or on GTweb practise times. Hope everything is ok?

Hi Guys, TBH I thought I had been dropped from the team because of one the Team lists posted. Regarding registering "Jamera" on the site I'm not sure if that has been done or not, where on there does it need to be done?

No ones going to be dropped, you did say you wanted to run, we've always assumed you were running in GT2.

Have you registered on their site?

You need to follow these instructions so it ties your in game name to your website profile: ( scroll down for english version)

http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4611

You then need to connect up to their practise servers via the direct connection option in game and to be registered on their current leaderboard you need to do at least 3 consecutive timed laps.

http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=GTWeb_Classement&page=classement&manche=344&game=1&archive=0


There is a 107% rule for all runners based on each classes fastest time. ITs actually listed at the bottom of the page.

You're down as 'Jamera.'

Link (http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=Members&letter=J)

From the message given i dont think he has completed registration

Some weather info been posted...

http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4994

Did I hear right it's rain over 70% humidity?

During the test race it got upto 85% humidity and didn't rain. Not sure if they've now changed that.

I'm not sure if I have registered my player name or not I registered on the site and on the forum, but can't be sure I did player name bit, anyway of telling?

Has there been an update I've missed as I'm getting a can't join message, but see anything obvious on the website to say there has been


I really should've studied French a bit harder at school  >:(

You need to update the mod, Jam. At least the skins have been added. :)

Yeah I guessed that was the case, but I updated from the link on the site for modv.2 and it won't let me in, so I'm guessing I'm downloading the wrong thing lol

Right can someone PLEASE post a link for the correct update. I dont know if its because I've been up since 6.00 yesterday morning straight through or because I'm just plain bloody stupid, but I can't find it and getting ratty now!!  >:(

Jams go to your C:\GTR2\Gtweb_Mod24h_Spa\gtweb_mod.bat
Click on it. It will run the updates from there :)

IF you follow the pictures on their forum it runs through adding your player name to your profile. The pictures should highlight the links to click on.


Yeah, you may have downloaded the mod files from their downloads but that just installas the appalication to run to actually download the cars. It installed a shortcut on the desktop for me, if you run it it will interogate your chosen GTR2 installation with their server and will sync it, downloading the files.

anyone for 2nd GT2 stint (test race)?

Well, I just had a pop at the test race and I got to say......I hate rain. I struggled to get the hard rain tyres up to temp in the morning session and day session. 3 hours of concentrating in the rain will be the ultimate test for sure. Need to come up with a totally different setup I think. Max Downforce.

I did the last GT2 stint which was mainly wet and loved it  :laugh: I too struggled to make the hards work but how could you know that softs wouldn't overheat? I had a very strange bit where I was on softs late in the race and they were starting to overheat. The sky darkened and within a lap the rear temps went from 230F to 130F! Interesting to say the least. I also made the mistake of switching to slicks too soon after the rain stopped the first time - my hard wets were over 250F on the back so I needed to change but soft slicks were a nightmare. Probably down to the low ambient in the morning session.

Looking at the forecast for the race I'm now wondering whether I ought to do session 7 instead which is likely to be fairly wet.

You also propose different wing, Paul? I mean, for mostly wet race should the car be set differently?

Not necessarily. What counts is getting the balance right, and adding more rear wing will make the car more understeery. I normally run soft/med slicks in the dry, but in the wet I'm not sure it works to mix the types in the same way so it is probably necessary to run the same. This will also make the car more understeery, so extra wing would be a bad idea. What will be important is judging the right tyre for the circumstance (rain and temp), so I suggest that everyone who is down for a potentially wet session does a good amount of testing with different tyres at different temps and wetness. If we can pool our knowledge then that would be good too.

Forecast looks a bit too up and down. looks like i'll have to play it by feel as to when to stop.

People have till thursday night at 8pm to practise and pre-qualify (Jamera!) with qualifying starting straight after.

We remind you that it is MANDATORY to record a pre-qualification time on the server for all drivers.
A pilot without any time or an average above the limit of 107% will not be allowed to race the event.

There is also some drivers who drove on the server but are not registered correctly on the site. If this error is not fixed, the laps of theses drivers won't be considered and that will penalize their respective teams.

Thank you to fix that and check everything on this page : Registration problems (http://www.gtweb-live.com/site/index.php?file=GTWeb_Endurance&page=EndurancesErreursPLR)

Ade You are registered on their site? Well i know you are as i added you to the team ???

It's a bit difficult to practice rain session in single player mode (off their server) as the grip levels are different. Don't want to set up my car and then find it lacking grip. :(

I was pleased to see the night server is running more realistic temperatures (5c), it's a shame the day server isn't set a bit lower too.
Had a go tonight & the lower temp making a big difference to the cars handling (& laptime :laugh:), to the point that I'll be trading in my meds for soft I think :-\

I would have thought we could create some weather files for the different sessions. Hal is a bit of an expert, so perhaps he could help?

GTWeb were running a wet server last night...check it out

Ade have you re-registered or something? You need to add your in game profile name to your website profile.


Please check these instructions out from their forum

http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=4611

Rules don't say: is it a double file formation lap? Does the race start on the last corner exit or on the S / F line?  :)
Can someone tell me the predictability of the rain in S1?

Was a single file start in the test races...was generally the last corner they went i think

Ade was AWOL from GTL last night  ???  And it was a chance to drive the Healey  :o

TT,
The start procedure is that you line up at the side of the track in a position determined by our qually run. Then wait at the side of the track not moving at all(I started to roll backwards in the testrace so a little brake might have to be applied). The safety car will pass by after the lights goes green and the leader will follow him when he's been passed. Each next car will follow the man in front in single file until the last corner when the pole sitter will decide when to start the race. The chance of rain is very strong TT, I believe rain will start when humidity gets to 70%. It should only be light rain but that will mean rain from around 70-75 min mark until the end of the session 1. We will see though, I'm gonna attempt to do a weather file to recreate this later on.

Sorry about this spanner ??? just got 11 more laps in and its showing me in black in the warm up standing but isn't showing me in the team ??? will you have to remove Mikko first if the team is full? maybe that was why my name didn't show in the team after my practice 3.


                                                                                 Cheers Ade

GTweb have said ok to Ade testing in the warm up and he's showing ok so maybe its just a case of putting him into the team now spanner?

Ok, Jon. You think for the light rain should I run slicks or wets?

Good to see you Ade!

The team pages are not accessable once qually begins so i cant change the lineup. You were on it but i guess with your other name but its probably automated.

PM is in your box TT with a weather file text in it.
Go to C:\Users\Jon\Documents\GTR2\userdata\Log
In there is a .txt file called 'weather' click properties and uncheck 'read only' now copy and paste the text from the PM then tick the read only box in properties again.
This file will mimic our race session but in a shortened hour session(I can do you a longer one if you want). Start the game uncheck 'time scaled weather' box, start open practice and put weather slider all the way up to changeable and start the game.

I used this program to recreate the file
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=15099
and followed our session from
http://www.gtweb-live.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5370

When making a weather file make sure you tick Practice 1 and not test day etc. I did that and could figure out why it wasn't working.
If anyone wants the same just give me a shout

I don't know about the tyres yet TT I'd susprect we'd be ok on slicks for the most.
I'm gonna do a proper test tonight.

Anychance you could do one for S8 Jon?

Again this is shortened to an hour. I can do a full length one if you want though
session 8
http://www.mediafire.com/?znky5w091hjhhcd

Cheers Jon. Grip will still be higher in single player, right? If I host a game I get multiplayer lower grip?

I've no idea TT ???
If you host I will join later on tho' 8)

Just wanted to wish all Srouk drivers the very best of luck.

Bring the silverware home guys  :yes:

Sorry gents, what shift am I doing? I can only make 9-11 or 11-1. Ta.

Gonna sneak in for some much need pracci later.

They are 3 hour shifts Ian - can you do 11-2?

Thanks for that Jon ;D

is it going to rain in session 2?

I feel woefully underprepared for this event this time. I havent done any wet running or pitstop practise yet. Just not been near the pc or sim racing much for weeks/months now.  :( Will still give it my best shot though.

Come join us on the wet practice server Mark.

just spent an hour testing in rain and pitstops, so can tick them off.

am i right in thinking:-

10-30% rain, stay on slicks (soft f/med r)
40-70% hard wets
80-100% soft wets.

Never sure if/ever to use intermediates.

think that sounds about right...generally found when track surface was reflecting the cars it was time for soft wet..
Personally never bothered with Inter`s before an its never let me down, though might come in handy at some point on a Porsche...Paul`s the man with all the knowledge on this i think ;)

11-2 shift is fine for me. Ta to Ade for taking the grave yard shift.

Best of luck to all morrow, bring me a 911 in mint condition please.

i wondered if any merit in running soft wet fronts / hard wet rears? Ive used that in a wet enduro before in the 997 and it worked well, but not had chance to test it with this version of the 997. As we know, the fronts need more heat in them for this car due to the light front end but i wonder how long they would last  :-\

6th gear is still plagueing me too. At one notch its just a bit too sluggish through eau rouge/radillion but means it doesnt go into the red down the kemmel. A notch lower and its got far more poke up the hill but tops out well before the brake boards at end of kemmel and may be just to much engine wear over 3hours. Think i'll have to stick to the longer gear...that will also help if you get to draft someone. But then a shorter gear won it for Vettel at Monza  ::)  :P  Prefer shorter myself as i like a peaky engine but that wear factor worries me.

Drove with soft wets all in med / heavy rain I think. I expect tyre wear with them going up to 20 on a full tank. Temps were ok, so if it rains... Trouble is I still don't know how to evaluate the % of rain condition on the start. Could be just a shower and soft wets are gonna overheat then. :-\

I've been redlining a bit down kemmel and near the bustop, but could usually get 1% wear per 5 laps, yet when i Increased the 5th & 6th gear ratio the wear went up significantly, sometimes 1% in 2-3 laps, despite virtually no redlining :-\

I wouldn't expect rain until at least an hour into session 1, and then it may be quite light for a while. The temperature will be a lot higher than the session tonight so I would expect hard wets to be the tyre of choice. Earlier on you may have to hang on to soft slicks for as long as possible or maybe consider inters?

This is how the weather generator says it is

0%-20% Sunny
20%-60% Some Clouds
60%-70% Cloudy
70%-80% Light Rain
80%-90% Heavy Rain
90%-100% Thunderstorms

And confirmed from an admin 70% it will start to rain(light)
Link (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gtweb-live.com%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D125%26t%3D4994&act=url)
Down at the bottom of the page.
1st stop for me will be med/meds
2nd stop will be either soft/soft or soft/inter(should be light rain and a damp track)
3rd stop could be the same as the 2nd but is very hard to judge(light rain maybe more to start then a dry last 15 mins)
or stop 4 'cus I crashed
stop 5 'cus I crashed
stop 6 'cus I crashed
 ;D

So it will start dry, then go to light rain?

I've sometimes noticed similiar strange things, when the engine temps are too low i've seen alot of engine wear and reducing the rads actually helped as there is an optimum temp for the engine.

Its been seen before that engine wear can be quite crtical over 3h, Road America i remember well, having to short shift a bit.

IMO TT, yes without a doubt.
The only thing I'm not too sure of is the on/off the racing line grip but we'll have to see on that one.

Ade (ade) is now showing as part of the team. Thx GTWeb & Spanner  :)

Thanks guys :clap: sorry about the last minute panic :-[

                                                                   Good luck everyone
                                                                      Cheers Ade

Good luck everybody  :thumbup1: :thumbup1: :thumbup1:

See you all later.

Hey Jon, you don't have a wet setup do you? I'm nearly 12secs off my dry time :o Is this normal?

Good luck guys!!!! i'm looking forward to my early hours stint  :sleep1:

I think those relatively low downforce setups arnt great in wet conditions!


Good luck Jon and TT in the first stints. Looks like you need to be on the server quite early!

 :clap: servers restarting for the race now 8)

all good so far, after 1st & 2nd sesh's...ie 6hours, we are 2nd GT1 and 8th GT2   8)

Had a good solid stint, no dramas contacts or spins.  :) Ran wide once in 3 hours, right at end of my 2nd stint on worn tyres, down at Stavelot with that gravel strip that runs alongside the parallel kerb, sucked me in and lost 20 secs. But seemed to take some good chunks of time out of couple of guys ahead

Forza UKGTR !

Timing screens seem screwed, Looks like most of the GT1's only did 4 laps in this session ??? Did the server died or something???
Cant beleive how close it all is.

Well that was an interesting 3 hours...or 2hr 15  :D...generally not much happened,made me way past a few guys...tyres lasted pretty well, but when the went they went quick...same again after pitstop...only real scare came lapping a 458 up to blanchimont, switched lines between the lambo i was racing an myself which through me off, so i ended up doin 140mph sideways though there which panicked him, so he slowed more an got run over by the car behind  ;D...made up 6-7 places on track so happy with it on the whole...GL to the nightshifts!

I very nearly had a great session but I chose to go on the wrong tyre and had to pit again just before the end.
Before my 1st and 2nd stops I was fighting for 2nd and 3rd place but as the rain came before my 2nd stop in I decided to go for soft fronts and inters on the rear which was the right call at the time, as it turned out softs all round would've been better but it wasn't too bad. Then on my 3rd stop I opted for the same tyres of soft fronts and inters on the back. It stopped raining about 10 mins in and then the inters just didn't have much grip, or I should say the guys on slicks just had alot more. I pitted again after a couple of offs and made up a couple of places but really the tyre choice cost me and the team maybe a minute which was a shame.
Overall though I was pretty happy, 7th place wasn't too bad really...It just could've been alot better.
If we do this beasty again I think I hammer those weather files good and proper ;D
Good luck to the guys yet to drive and well done to everyone so far. There have been some really good drives from the boys 8)
Sleep time ;)

 :taz: after my first stop I was taking off  1.5 /2.0 seconds a lap on the chap in front who was a lap down overall but he wanted to race and was slowing me up :-\ he got a wheel on the curb on the inside of T10 Pouhon so I took my chance and got round the outside then he side swiped me at T11 and pushed me of track >:( trying to get back on  I got hooked up over the curb and got slammed  up the rear end  :o lost a rear wheel and got it stuck in the gravel :( race over.


                                                                               Sorry guys

Ooh bad luck Ade. You could always stick in an incident report on their forum. Even in the practise session i wasnt entirely convinced about some of the drivers :(

Handed over to Lazlow, still in 5th but now only 2.5 secs behind 4th place over all.

Quite chuffed, after a decent session overall. One visit to the sand & punted once by back-marker after letting me (& the guy in 4th) through as I went round T1 ::). Last hour was a bit tough as it rained for about 40 mins, but it was nice feeling the car coming back towards the end as it dried.

Good luck to the last few guys  8)

Who was it? I had similar thing with a BMW, just kept driving up
The middle of the road everytime I got near him, though it was for ontrack position they were atleast a few laps down overall

Sorry, wasn't at home today, only got in now. How did we do then? :)

oh dear, looks like we finished 9th in GT1 and 11th in GT2  :(  what happened in the latter stages to drop us down the order? Been out all day so couldnt check in.

Ah well, cracking event these GTW Enduros. Proper endurance racing feel to them. 8) The only downside is you dont sometimes have anyone around you on track to race for position due to wherever the previous guy finished in his stint.

Well, the result wasn't what I wanted but the session was certainly interesting! We got about 10 laps in the dry before the rain came, so I pitted for hard wets, which was a mistake. I couldn't get the temps up so pitted again for soft wets, and then it worked much better. After 15 good laps where I was making up time against a lot of the field, the rain eased and the tyres started to overheat. Lazlow and I were talking all the time on TS discussing strategy and I said that since the GT1 boys were up the front I would pit for slicks as an experiment to see if they would work. It was fairly clear soon after though that they did not! I tried to dissuade Jim from doing the same thing but he took the same option, only to find the tyres even worse than I had! I hung on for quite a while but in the end I pitted for hard wets on the front and inters on the back. They were much better and I was soon the quickest GT2. All through this period a good chunk of the GT2 field came to grief, and I was up to 6th on the road when I caught the 3rd place man who was a lap ahead. He didn't make it easy to pass him so I had to work hard for an opportunity, but by this time the track was treacherous. On the racing line it was ok, but offline it was like ice - let the tail hang out in a corner and you were sideways before you knew it. Run too deep into a corner and you were a passenger into the gravel trap. I had visited a few of these by then but so had most of the field I think! So, there was just under 30 mins left and I was following the 3rd place driver into the kink before Blanchimant. I knew it was tricky but in following him I strayed a fraction off line and the tail stepped out. I caught it but by the time it was straight I was half on the grass on the outside and so could not turn in to Blanchimant. The car then understeered into the barriers on the outside and the engine died - race over  :(

I was so disappointed to get so close to the end and with a good finish in sight only to bin it, but I have to say that conditions were very, very hard to cope with. I have never had to deal with such a big difference between the online and offline grip. It was a real challenge just to get round each lap, but that made the whole experience amazingly exciting. Despite the result, I had a blast and I'd take that sort of session any day. It was also good having Lazlow in the GT1 team to compare notes with and keep me entertained  :) Big thanks to Purdie too for sticking around after his stint and acting as spotter for me (in between the cuppas  ;)).

Like the other 24h races, I loved the whole event, not just the driving. Well done to everyone in both teams - 9th and 11th isn't at all bad considering the highly competitive field we were up against. Hats off to GTWeb who (as always) did a great job to lay it all on. Thanks also to spanner for running the teams and liaising with GTWeb.

So, can we race at the Ring next time?  

Unlucky Paul...sounds eventful !

Yes big thanks to GTW once again for a brilliantly organised event and well done to Spanner for taking on the UKGTR team supervisory role, well done  :)

ooh, VLN 24 hours by chance?....be a lot of carnage too though unfortunately!  I'd like one of these proper enduros at 'the' enduro track of all, Le Mans  8) or failing that, Petit Le Mans.

Hi everybody,

GTWeb would like to thank all participants of the 24 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps. 370 pilots from 26 countries made ​​up the 70 teams that took part in an event that will set aside its share of surprises and suspense to the end.

We hope that the pilots had fun during their stints and the spectators enjoyed the show thanks to the Live Standings and Live Video.

See you soon  ;)

Great effort by everyone who took part at the weekend, having only 2 incidents between both teams was acheivement in its self...although the GT1 team would of gained a lap if we had had one ??? :P
Still, with just over 2 laps covering 3rd to 9th you have to say it was an extremely competitive GT1 line up.
Looking forward to seeing what the GTWeb team have for us next time round.
Congrats to all!!! :thumbup2:

Yea, great effort from GTWeb for putting it all together. 8)
My stint was eventful as well. Race started behind a safety car and it was all GT2s, so the start was quite ok, almost like the our rolling. :) Started damp, so I had meds all around. Gained two places in the first lap, then got spun in the third, losing 8 places. >:( Then there was an accident and I hit a parked car, got some damage. Not too much, though I was losing half a sec per lap to my best lap. Weather was stable for the good part of my race. Soon after my first pit-stop it started to rain, slowly at first and the slicks were ok. Was good to have Paul on the line and he made good advice to take inters for the last part of the race. Would never take them by myself, don't know why but I never use them. They were ok here, though and all in all I think I gained 8 places from starting position. MJ took over then. :)
The event wasn't as successful for us than the last, true but I think the effort from us was just as high if not higher. The weather was much more devious for sure. So all in all I think we did ok and hope the next event will be a bit more forgiving. Nah, I don't think it will. ;D
I'm sorry I couldn't take over RRs offer, or plea. Sorry man, I had a busy weekend and could not get anything else into my schedule. :-\ Man, I didn't even see your post / message until the next day and I didn't have the opportunity to say hi the whole morning. :(
We'll have to see if we still have enough willing drivers for the next event for two teams, eh? :-\

Anyways, it was a pleasure and an honour to drive with you all in this event. :thumbup1:


P.S. Time for language lesson: why is honour shown as a non-valid word and offer "honor" as a more appropriate? Thought it was honour, honor. ???   

think thats UK and US spelling... like colour / color respectively

Getting up at 4.30am made it feel real enough (and was out on Sat night but didn't drink much  :P) and concentrating for 3hrs certainly takes it out of you (never mind 2 stints Dan  ;))

Enjoyed my stint and believe I was generally on race pace relative to the conditions most of time  :)
Started under safety car and the 1st hour was almost a sprint race with the traffic which made it fun and then the remaining hours it rained and then dried out before the end. Great fun. Sign me up for next time! (*cough* Le Mans ;))

Just as much fun was spotting during Paul's stint - with the information available from the website your a virtual engineer! and as always good banter on the TS  ;D

:clap:

Big thanks to GTWeb for amazing organization and getting the clunky old net code of GTR2 to actually appear slick  :) huge amounts of hours in preparation and administrative matters but it was worth it!

Thanks to Spanner too as liason officer and whip-cracker  ;) and Lazlow for great looking cars   8)

Bit annoyed with it all the last session and my laptimes :( Listening to Paul and Lazlow finishing off the previuos stint told me that when it rained it wasnt going to dry at all so the final stint was going to be mainly wet so decided to tweak my setup to be a bit more balanced in the wet, increased the rear wing, increased front caster and increased fast-bump on the rear just try and equalise the wear and help with traction.

However the first few laps were shockingly slow for some reason and had try quite hard to get the times out. How are people able to bang out quick laps straight away ??? Interesting looking at the stats on their site giving peoples laps and every laptime.

Unfortuneatly the rain never came >:( In fact the temps never varied at all ??? Looks like someone forgot to set the weather on the server :'(

Few incidents though as someone tried to go round the outside at radion and got distracted on TS and hit the car infront into la source. It was only the last stint with new tyres and low fuel i could enjoy it!

Few points
Shame no real multiclass running
Incident penalties not severe enough, you lost out by running sometimes.
Brilliant event tho

Me? All i do is moan at you all ;D

I thought 9th and 11th places were pretty good tbh. I know we could have done better but so could lots of other teams.
 As much as I hated the weather at the time it really did make it interesting. The success or failure of a certain session could be changed by making the right or wrong choice of tyres. I had a look at my session and the last stint I started off on soft/inters and was quicker than others for the 1st 10-15 mins so it looked for all the world the right choice but the track just dried out enough when the rain stopped for those on full slicks to prosper and me to go backward. That's what made the track/weather combo so great, and like Paul said, so exciting. It was far more interesting than Sakhir, even if the result wasn't as good.
 I agree that the punishments did not fit the crime with regard to lost laps. If they awarded the same laps as the slowest driver in class they would be worse off than quitting! Maybe it's fair enough for a CTD,disco or somebody destroying your car, but when most of the penalties were self inflicted by losing control it does seem like a reward not a punishment.
I think the thing I liked overall about the event was the competition, having to push 100% just to keep level or even to stop falling too far behind. Anyway time to stop writing and say a big thanks to
Spanner for the organising
Lazlow for the cars
GTWEB for hosting a great and well run event
and all you lads for putting in a great effort in your 3 hour sessions 8) 8) 8)

The session started really well for me. Seemed to be on the pace, very hard to gauge who I was actually racing, and getting faster through first hour. Then was struck by terrible fps stutters just before my pit, this caused me a couple of offs and some damage to front. Decided not to fix damage in stop as you can normally drive through that but the car suffered terrible understeer through hour two and I was some 3/4 seconds slower. Very frustrated, I decided to fix car on final stop but its didn't change the handling at all ??? In all honesty the last sessions were painful and I would have quite if not for the rather ace team element.

Thanks to the GTWeb gents for putting on another great show 8) And all you gents for adding to the fun. Whens the next?

Truly epic event once again. :)

I had started with good clear space on the track and was just settling in to a good flow when an issue occurred with the servers and the session stopped after only a few laps. The server was set for a restart with 2 hours and 15 mins left on the clock. We had to qualify for track position while waiting for the race to get under way again. I qualified mid pack. We did a formation lap but, still I was with several cars going through the first few corners with battles kicking off all around me. I unfortunately lost control accelerating out of T4 and span the car. I ended up facing the wrong way on the track with not too much space for the other cars to pass. One of the passing cars did unfortunately hit me and I took some heavy damage. It was not the other drivers fault, he simply could not avoid me. I believe that the driver that hit me did actually wait for me in the pits, Pink Racing team I think it was. That was very sporting. :) He did not have to do it though as it was a racing incident and more my fault for being backwards in the middle of the track as far as I am concerned. Still it was very kind and shows the level of sportsmanship as well as skill on display during the event.

I was not able to maintain a good pace as the temperatures dropped, I think it got down to about 5C ambient by the end of the session. I should have done more cold running in practise. The pace of the other cars was immense and I slowly began to fall back further and further from the leaders.

It was a shame that I lost out and I caused our team to drop back a bit after the excellent job done by the people driving the car before me. Sorry team and sorry for the spin as well.

I had fun and was very happy to take part in this event once again. :)

Thanks GTWeb. Great job. Thanks all drivers and well done.

I am looking forward to the next one. rFactor 2 maybe? (if it ever comes out ::)) They currently plan to include driver changes and being able to reconnect to a server after a disco.