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Title: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: H@L9000 on August 09, 2011, 03:52:14 PM +0100
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All members welcome Please reserve your car in this thread...https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9693.0

Practice 1: 19:40 BST (60 mins)
Qual 2:      20:40 BST (20 mins)
Race:        21:00 BST (51 Laps) - note: no warm up!

ROLLING START!

Cars: Formula 1 1988 For GTR2 V0.9 - Available to download from here (http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,fileinfo/id,1261/lang,en/) or here. (http://www.simworldgt.com/?n=Formula_One_-_F1_1988&p=download_details&id=52)
                       and F1 1988 Missing Teams Update V1.4 - Available to download from here (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=29092)

BOTH MODS MUST BE INSTALLED

Track: Monza 1988 v1.0.0.0 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_monza88)).

Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: DRY.

Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: normal.

Server: simracing.org.uk F1
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=315&theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.





Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 09, 2011, 07:38:51 PM +0100
This event will be our full length GP race for this season.

We still need to sort out the event announcements, so please ensure that you practise at the 1988 version of Monza as in the actual event post.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Legzy on August 09, 2011, 10:03:19 PM +0100
This event will be our full length GP race for this season.

We still need to sort out the event announcements, so please ensure that you practise at the 1988 version of Monza as in the actual event post.
So roughly how long will the race likely be? (i.e. your laptime x 51)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 09, 2011, 10:43:12 PM +0100
This event will be our full length GP race for this season.

We still need to sort out the event announcements, so please ensure that you practise at the 1988 version of Monza as in the actual event post.
So roughly how long will the race likely be? (i.e. your laptime x 51)

Approx 70 minutes. I purposely picked a classic track with a shorter duration  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 09, 2011, 10:52:35 PM +0100
Server is now running with the following ballast:

Andy Purdie        60
Blunder              50
goldtop               10
Jubei                  70
Legzy                 30
Matt_Rowe         40
Navin R Johnson  20
spannerF1           70
SRW                   40
Truetom             30



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 09, 2011, 10:54:28 PM +0100
Lol, where'd it go???????


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 09, 2011, 11:06:37 PM +0100
Hmmm, having some issues with this track in terms of performance, very stuttery, tried reducing res no change, just gonna reboot system to see if that clears it


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 09, 2011, 11:19:24 PM +0100
Ok, rebooted, no change. Tried a modern version on another server and it runs fine. Could someone else check to see how it runs for them?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 10, 2011, 11:05:04 AM +0100
Ok, rebooted, no change. Tried a modern version on another server and it runs fine. Could someone else check to see how it runs for them?

I was having no problems when I tried it last night with my new GTX460 card. When I tested the track for this series, I was using the HD5850 and also had no problems  ???

If you've already tried reinstalling the track, maybe there is some background process or something in your GTR2 installation which clashes.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 13, 2011, 10:16:23 PM +0100
Right sorted it by doing a fresh install just for F188, not sure what was in the orig GTR2 install, but it didn't like it lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Legzy on August 14, 2011, 09:45:14 PM +0100
Server is up & I'm on it :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Legzy on August 14, 2011, 09:50:03 PM +0100
Server is now running with the following ballast:

Andy Purdie        60
Blunder              50
goldtop               10
Jubei                  70
Legzy                 30
Matt_Rowe         40
Navin R Johnson  20
spannerF1           70
SRW                   40
Truetom             30
GT, would it be difficult to add a 3rd column to this table each week? One that shows the ballast change from the last event? (i.e. +50 for Spanner because he was 2nd & -40 for me because I was rubbish :laugh:)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: Legzy on August 14, 2011, 11:30:53 PM +0100
Lovely combo, love that early double chicane 8) (which is lucky, as I've booked half a night off work to attend :smartass:)

Managed a 1:30.5 race setup, which seemed to be about in the middle of the others I saw (who were upto +/-2 secs either side).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 15, 2011, 10:42:27 AM +0100


Server is now running with the following ballast:

Andy Purdie        60
Blunder              50
goldtop               10
Jubei                  70
Legzy                 30
Matt_Rowe         40
Navin R Johnson  20
spannerF1           70
SRW                   40
Truetom             30
GT, would it be difficult to add a 3rd column to this table each week? One that shows the ballast change from the last event? (i.e. +50 for Spanner because he was 2nd & -40 for me because I was rubbish :laugh:)
I could do that mate, but tbh I'm already finding the series admin heavy as it is. The information is there for drivers who wish to work it out....they need only look back to the previous race to compare the ballast.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9737.msg177318#msg177318

Don't forget folks that the ballast is worked out by combining the finishing positions of the previous 2 races that drivers participated in. For instance Spanner is carrying +60 here at Monza for coming 2nd at Spa (+50) and 5th at Hungaroring (+10).

You do realise of course, this is all just a ploy by Legzy to distract me from my practising  :laugh:

1:30.592 race setup so far in my illegitimate offspring of an Italian/Swiss dream.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: purdie on August 15, 2011, 06:11:36 PM +0100
Not tried the track yet... couldn't we have a long distance race somewhere interesting?  :whistling:

Be on later tonight if the server is up  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 15, 2011, 06:18:59 PM +0100
Not tried the track yet... couldn't we have a long distance race somewhere interesting?  :whistling:

Be on later tonight if the server is up  :)

Well I'm not usually a fan of Monza, but on this version with these cars I could hotlap all day  8)

I'll be on the server after our GTL race, if I'm not dragged kicking and screaming down the pub by my well meaning mates that is.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - Aug 16
Post by: purdie on August 16, 2011, 11:20:00 AM +0100
Well I'm not usually a fan of Monza, but on this version with these cars I could hotlap all day  8)

take it all back, great version. Like how i remember from GP2!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: phspok on August 16, 2011, 12:30:38 PM +0100
Will miss this, and most of the races I would normally be at for some time
as I am not at home as much and am "otherwise engaged" with a new romance  :wub:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Reissuleipa on August 16, 2011, 01:06:19 PM +0100
Tried the mod for the first time yesterday. First I took the Zakspeed and after tweaking the setup a bit I did a good lap in my opinion...then took the Mclaren and while talking in the phone I drove one-handed and did a lap time 6 seconds faster. The setups were basically the same and while the Zakspeed was awful to drive and slow the Mac was over 30 kmh faster on the straigth and easy to handle. Now I see why there is a car ranking in place.  ;D

So if I wanted to take part in this race, what car should/could I drive?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 16, 2011, 02:20:27 PM +0100
Tried the mod for the first time yesterday. First I took the Zakspeed and after tweaking the setup a bit I did a good lap in my opinion...then took the Mclaren and while talking in the phone I drove one-handed and did a lap time 6 seconds faster. The setups were basically the same and while the Zakspeed was awful to drive and slow the Mac was over 30 kmh faster on the straigth and easy to handle. Now I see why there is a car ranking in place.  ;D

So if I wanted to take part in this race, what car should/could I drive?

You are welcome to join us  :)

As you've discovered, the cars vary a greatly in performance and our aim in this series is to provide as close a grid as we can to promote close racing which is why we have the car ranking and allocation in place.

From your performance in Sunday's SGT race, I'd say you would fall into the pretty quick category. I suggest you take the AGS. It is a sweet handling car and while it might not get you to the front of the grid at Monza, it will certainly give you other drivers to race with and provide a realistic challenge for the rest of the season.

You'll need to test the AGS for pitting if you intend to stop for fuel as some cars won't restart after refuelling. The workaround is to make sure you have no buttons assigned for ignition or starter and you car will then restart automatically. Other drivers might also want to be reminded of this.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Truetom on August 16, 2011, 04:43:07 PM +0100
Will miss this, and most of the races I would normally be at for some time
as I am not at home as much and am "otherwise engaged" with a new romance  :wub:

Best of luck, you're gonna need it. ;) Seriously, do the right thing. :)

Women hope men will change after the wedding. But they don't.
Men hope women won't change after the wedding. But they do. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 16, 2011, 05:23:48 PM +0100
Will miss this, and most of the races I would normally be at for some time
as I am not at home as much and am "otherwise engaged" with a new romance  :wub:


OK Matt, thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't even mention simracing if I were you  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 16, 2011, 07:17:36 PM +0100
Please Note:

There is time to be gained by running out wide over the rumble strips at the exit of Ascari. I'd like to just remind all drivers that 2 wheels must remain within the white lines at all times during qualifying and race. Please feel free to report anyone who disregards this for moderation.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: purdie on August 16, 2011, 09:16:34 PM +0100
Can't believe it  >:( connection issues i think were causing stutters on the pace lap and then in the first chicane it stuttered again so i aimed off track and when the screen came back i rejoined last. Then it happened again in the lesmo's and i lost control  :'( game over.

Good track tho! Need to learn estoril now!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Truetom on August 16, 2011, 09:38:43 PM +0100
Well. after some small mistakes I lost it in a first chicane, wheel was ripped off and the race was over. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 16, 2011, 10:20:01 PM +0100
A couple of little spins early on put me at the back, but I gained places back as others made mistakes and got to my pitstop in 5th.....almost ::) No idea what happened, but as I was entering the pits I locked up and went into the armco suffering 2 minutes worth of damage.

Rejoined with Legzy about 45 seconds up the road and seemed to be able to gain a bit/lose a bit through the sectors while the gap remained the sameish for a few laps. Legzy pitted and came out 15 secs behind me, but then started closing by a second a lap. I had a big wobble coming out of Para and Legzy eased past, only for me to repass in the slipstream. Unfortunately in my excitement I skewed up my downchanges into he first chicane, spinning and stalling...race over :'(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Legzy on August 16, 2011, 10:36:14 PM +0100
Rejoined with Legzy about 45 seconds up the road and seemed to be able to gain a bit/lose a bit through the sectors while the gap remained the sameish for a few laps. Legzy pitted and came out 15 secs behind me, but then started closing by a second a lap. I had a big wobble coming out of Para and Legzy eased past, only for me to repass in the slipstream. Unfortunately in my excitement I skewed up my downchanges into he first chicane, spinning and stalling...race over :'(
I was gutted for you, I felt we could have enjoyed a bit of a scrap. :'(

Good fun overall, but a 10:25pm race finish is just too late for me on a week night.
I should have done a lot better, but I made about 5 offs in the 1st six laps but was still about 4th/5th. Sadly my next off took me into the barriers, followed by a long stop in the pits & back to 2nd last & it was a long lonely race from there.

p.s. Big congrats to H@L, who'd of thought you'd earn some ballast this season! :wetfish: :winkiss:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: F1 Jubei on August 16, 2011, 10:41:13 PM +0100
Nice Race!I hat a Mistake in Round 16, Blunder was trying me let pass him.I go from gas to, and my Ride go the Hell! Making a Pitstop then all Reparation and come back with FULLLLL TAnks at Place 8.I tried to Finish so , but the Tyres not holding.Let pass Jamera in Round40-41 and make another Pitstop for Tyres.At end Place 4 is ok ok.TYTY
 
Se ya Jubei


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 16, 2011, 10:43:36 PM +0100
There will be a delay with the results  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Samb on August 16, 2011, 11:57:19 PM +0100
Phew that was hard work! I'm dead chuffed though to have scooped up my first F188 win, though I'm sure my car's superiority, aided with a lack of ballast had something to do with that. Still, a win's a win.....to me at least  :angel:. I toyed with the idea of going the whole distance without having to pit, but the car felt like driving on ice with the hard tyres on a full tank, so I decided to do two stints on the soft tyre with a pitstop mid-race.

On the first lap, Mikko got caught out by my early braking into the Parabolica and we both slewed into the gravel. My apologies Mikko, but I was never that comfortable with the March fat on fuel and the rear tended to be rather nervous on corner entry. The demoted us both to the back of the grid. Mikko shot away but I was making steady progress, passing the odd car and making the most of other's misfortune. By half distance I was up Mikko's gearbox but decided to pit as my rear tyres had seen better days. I assumed everyone would pit soon after me but it became clear Lazlow (Jim I think?) and Mikko were going to try and do the whole race on one set of tyres.

The next half was really hard work. I had to claw back a 30 second deficit in about 25 laps. Luckily with the lightening fuel load and fresh tyres, the March was a dream to drive. I managed to catch Lazlow with about 10 to go but Mikko was still lapping quickly on his worn tyres. He had a 10 second advantage on me with 10 laps to go and I thought it would be impossible to catch him. I began to drive nearer the limit, setting personal bests and catching him by about a second a lap. 'God this'll be close I thought' but with 7 to go Mikko sadly lost it at the end of the Rettifilio, allowing me to inherit a fortunate victory.

That was one of the hardest races I've done. Many thanks for everyone for the close racing.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 17, 2011, 07:27:11 AM +0100
Firstly i would like to to say sorry to Blunder. Was listening to you on TS saying that I was holding you up due to my fuel strat. I attempted to tell you to pass me on the inside, forgetting that I had remapped my wheel buttons and what was my TS PTT button was in fact my pit limiter, result a very sudden drop in speed and you off, really, really sorry mate, considered pulling right off to let you pass me, but clearly you had major problems.

Other than that some really good scraps, although I do feel i did not do myself justice last night.

Grats to Sam and Laz, great drives from both of you and well done to all those that finished, that was a long, hard race  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Blunder on August 17, 2011, 08:15:17 AM +0100
Morning buddy!
Ah well that explains it!  ;D
Yeah bit of a shame, I was on half fuel, hence my pace, didn't realise you were on TS until later on!
Lost my rear wing so that was prety much it!
Came out with Hal and Legzy so was still shaping up to be fun but an error into the last corner and a half spin put me a country mile behind!

Ah, well, what could have been!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 17, 2011, 10:16:08 AM +0100
Results and replay in the usual places

Ballast carried forward to Estoril88:

Andy Purdie        60
Blunder              0
goldtop               0
H@L                   10
Jamera               40
Jubei                  40
Lazlow                50
Legzy                 20
Matt_Rowe         40
Navin R Johnson  20
spannerF1           50
Sam Blood           60
SRW                   40
Truetom             30



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: purdie on August 17, 2011, 10:49:05 AM +0100
Grats Podium  O0

Finishing that race in these cars would have been very hard, not to mention the quick best laps!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: spanner on August 17, 2011, 01:47:43 PM +0100
Was just driving a steady race, again watching other fall off around me ( i was up to 2nd at one point :o ) getting a bit miffed as i get ballast for actually finishing. Decided to go with a half and half fuel strategy to try and minimise the extra weight carried but it was clear in the race i was carrying a bit more wing (16F-15R) than most as i seemed to gain through the chicanes but lost a bit down the straights. Car was really planted through the first complex so in hindsite should have dropped them a bit more.

Came out of my stop at half distance and had Jubei 6sec behind me but it seemd we were quite close as it seemed like only a few tenths he would close by. Was just trying to be consistent when i got on the curb out of the final chicane funny and got a bit of a slide on, thought i caught it, no i didnt, and hit the barriers loosing a wheel. I'd been flirting with the curb a bit but never had that happen yet ???

Annoying as i was 4 or 5th at the time so was on for a good result considering. Was also starting to wonder how long the race was actually going on for as i was starting to watch the clock!

Shame i dont lose quite so much weight for the next one!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: goldtop on August 17, 2011, 02:41:32 PM +0100
lol Spanner. I'm glad you were able to drive a "steady race"  ;)

The only way I was able to achieve my very average times was by running 1/1 wing and just hanging on for dear life through the bendy parts. I was having to readjust my braking points throughout the race because of brake fade due to my extreme duct and disc settings. I even found a couple of tenths by disengaging autoclutch on the straights to speed up the Eurobrun's sluggish gearshift and then re-engaging for the downshifts. All this just to reach a top speed of 191mph  :scooter:

I was spent after an hour in simworld....gawd knows what it must have been like to do this in RL  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: Jamera on August 17, 2011, 03:48:33 PM +0100
Was running 2/1 wing on the Lotus and auto clutch off, downshifts too, blipping the throttle going down through the box, fun race though, really enjoyed it


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Formula 1 1988 - Monza (1988) - Aug 16
Post by: lazlow on August 17, 2011, 08:41:21 PM +0100
All this just to reach a top speed of 191mph  :scooter:
:D I can only dream of driving at that speed. Max for me was 182mph.