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Car:	LMP2 HPD ARX-01C or GT2 Ford GT
Track:	Sebring International DAY
When:	Sunday 21st August
Practice:	17:40 (80 mins)
Qualifying:	19:00 (30 mins)
Race:	19:30 - 21:00 (90 mins)
Start:	Standard iRacing double file rolling start
Resets:	One

Password:

>>>> see above <<<< (#post_event_password)

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There will be a hosted practice session on the Saturday evening before the race - hosted by our partners at Legends League / TWFR.

The session will run from 1900-2100hrs (UK timings as ever)  and will give us all a chance to get together and familiarise ourselves with our new chariots and our new competition.  It is set for 60 mins practice, then 2 laps private qual & a 40 min race - so registration will only be available until approximately 2010hrs.

I hope you can all join us on track.

Excellent, need all practise I can get for this car.
Btw will be interesting to enter last corner for the first time with this car  ;D

I was doing some laps today in the LMP, ran wide at T1 over the grass but didn't hit anything - and got a meatball flag for damage! Going to be a tough race :)

The LMP drivers are going to have to show a lot of patience here. The track is mostly narrow and extremely bumpy so it's nothing like as simple to just get on the power exiting the turns as it was at the Glen. Simple survival will likely lead to a strong finish.

nb: Legends League are hosting a regular practice server this evening (Monday) starting at 1930 UK time for those who can make it. I doubt if I will be there but it's a good chance for those who can to get in some early practice for Sunday, especially to learn where the trouble spots are.

I turned up for the practice on Monday and drove around by myself for 30 minutes.  :( Lets hope for more on Saturday.

Only got one clean lap in as well so plenty of practice needed for this one.

Wasn't aware there was a praccy server up on Monday TBH - is that a standing thing with the Legends League?

Yes, every Monday. It will be set up for the Endurance Sunday series for the week prior to the next race (on the other weeks it will be set up for what Legends is running the following Sunday). The server starts at 1930 UK time.

nb: perhaps it would be better in another thread but what days / times would be best for the SRouk drivers? I can't recall why Monday was chosen for the first one of the week and I think Baz has been the only one of our drivers to make it regularly. If there is a more popular day/time then it would make more sense to run it then.

Wasn't aware of this otherwise I would have jumped in.

Don't worry Mark - with this new partnership it's a voyage of discovery for us all :D

at my mates wedding Saturday up in wetherby so not sure if i'll be back in time or in a suitable state

have practised so ready to go at least

Really informative post here
http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1730967.page (http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1730967.page)
about rolling starts.

Looking forward to tomorrow's race! Anyone has a good setup and are willing to share?

wow that didn't help. managed 4 laps at end of 60 min prac(didn't know only 60min prac). then 2 laps in quali, and then wrecked car, after a LMP reenter track on the raceline on lap 4.  :-\

well lets hope we can stay in race longer tomorrow  ;D

Thanks for hosting the practise session, but it's disastrous having no password...

I had some guy in the LMP slowing down on the straights and brake testing me on the corners....  >:(

Hope to see you for the race...

Thanks for praccy session, although..

I don't know about anyone alse but I would prefer pure praccy sessions instead of a qualy and race for saturday.

See ya at the race.

Good turn out 16 cars, a lot of care needed tomorrow.  :'(  If we get a good number password would be ok but we need cars on track to pracrice dribing with different classes.

sorry, didn't say thanks for hosting in my first post  :-[

btw thanks for the hosting guys, any hosting format is fine by me  :angel:
anyone tried "caterpillar" with MC cars? slowest GT in front, fastest LMP in back. then start. If we can do that inc free then we are set to go  ;D

Same for me, I was going to do a little practice tonight but generally can only get on later. The qually and race format on a Saturday is not the correct one in my view as it means people have to be on a server early. The open 4 hour session is much more flexible for "practice".

Good luck tomorrow guys, I'm away on holiday so won't be joining you until the next race.

Regards
Gary

Perhaps a little background might help.

As you should hopefully be aware, SRouk and Legends League are cooperating on the iRacing side. For some time now, Legends have been running "club" races on Mondays & Saturdays. They have been open servers to try and encourage newcomers to join us and they have included races to try and give some structure to them rather than just have people come & go. We offered to run these on the Endurance Sundays weeks as well as our own weeks and that is what we have been doing. Our budget only really allows for us to run 2 hour sessions. So that's basically why the format is what it is. But we are open to changing it if there is a consensus to do so - no point running something that is unpopular! Naturally, we would happily step aside if SRouk wanted to host their own practice sessions for the Endurance Sundays weeks.

From my own perspective, I like having a race as that is when you really learn about what is sensible or not when dealing with traffic, but 40 mins is probably too long. We could run a 4 hour session on Saturday by dropping the Monday one (since that has never been at all popular) but the risk then is that you end up with people just coming & going throughout the session with never enough at any one time to really practice in traffic. And even if there is a race at the end then it's made pointless because most of the drivers have left by then.

As for passwords, I have mixed feelings. It is very annoying if there is someone who really shouldn't be on the track but OTOH running closed servers means you'll miss the guy who doesn't yet know about the league and would become a valued member. It also depends on how much the league members will take part, I've never seen much point in closed practice servers with just half a dozen active drivers as they might as well just run laps offline.

Rik, I understand about the cooperation and the cost of hosting. I'm happy to go along with a consensus view but this format does not provide the flexibility of 4 hour practice sessions.

Regards
Gary

No problems Gary, you're very welcome to make your views known! What is most important is that the sessions are useful and if they are not currently meeting the needs then we need people to tell us so :)

I'd like to see more practice - but there's nothing like a race to get a better handle on where you need to watch out.

I would have been in attendance yesterday, but I was stuck minding the kids so didn't get on till later

But as a format it actually cuts down on the ability for all participants to practice, if we have a four hour session we can have an informal race if we want to. If you couldn't get on until latr last night that is at least two of us that didn't get any practice. Because of this format.

I know I speak for myself.. but I don't have a lot of time to practice during the week and use the server on Sat and Sunday to try get up to speed and safe.
Yesterday I found it a little difficult trying to step up to race with only a hours worth of practice in. I'd vote for having a 3 hour practice session followed by a 30 min race for those that are interested, if that was possible.

Was the race pushed back or suspended? Can't see the server...

Really sorry to Andy and Gizmo, came back on the track without checking the splits, after worrying and checking fuel levels.. totally my mistake and very sorry..

My race was toast through my own fault long before that happened. ::) Once again I lulled myself into a false sense of adequacy, being gifted 3rd when Simon went off and then finding I had better early pace than Paul L I grabbed 2nd. Everything was going swimmingly, despite the really tricky traffic - with almost no top end speed advantage over the GT I had to make far too many passes in braking zones for my liking. :o

Sadly it all went wrong trying to get a good exit out of 16 to pass a couple of Fords - once again it started to swap ends so suddenly that my reaction simply reversed the direction in which I headed for the barriers. Bent the car really badly and had to crawl back to the pits - I've a horrible feeling that I caused Dmitry to run off in Sunset as I crawled at a snail's pace towards the pits. :-[

Took the instant repair and fuel and got straight back out - there was no point holding back now if I wanted a podium place. Once again the car decided to surprise me - I took Sunset on my normal line and it just swapped ends, no warning, no nothing. Smacked the barriers on the outside so drove through the cones straight into the pits for my second repair (and an 18s hold penalty for "unsafe entry", just to add insult to injury).

That left me way down but effectively on the same stop sequence as everyone else so I set about clawing my way back up the field.

Made it up to 4th, but despite a pace advantage Purdie was too far up the road to catch. I'd pretty much settled for that (and the hope that only Richard would have lapped me, having unlapped myself from Paul when he took his final stop) when with about 6 minutes to go, I came across Andy Gooderson crawling with a damaged car, and Don just ahead. I figured there had probably been contact, and committed to pass Don on the right of T9 so that he could take the apex as normal, and was flabbergasted when he drove straight into me - until I saw the replay and realized that his steering was broken from the contact with Andy. A very unfortunate way for me to end the race when I'd come so close to a half decent result despite those two resets, but not entirely a surprise. At least I made it further into the race than last time!

I still feel the relative performance of these cars is all wrong for multiclass racing, especially at the faster tracks, and worse still I can't drive the GT at all, and the HPD I can drive okay at 90% but at flat out racing speed an off is always a blink at the wrong moment away, and I have neither the feel for the car nor the speed of reaction required to save it when it does go wrong. :-\

First of, I would like to apologise to Adam K and anyone else I caused problems for on the opening lap.  I'm really struggling with the NTM; at low speeds the back end steps out under braking without warning, with no chance of catching it.  :-[

By the end of lap 1 I had spun twice, was last and well adrift.

I managed to fight my way up through the field into 2nd, but it soon became clear I had pitted 2 laps too early.  I chased down Jasper and passed him, and managed to get the gap up to 12 seconds.  But in pushing to make the gap even bigger, I spun again under braking.  :-[

After my 2nd pitstop (for a splash n dash and damage repairs  ::) ) I rejoined 15 seconds down.  I managed to get the gap back down below 5 seconds, but I guess Jasper was just doing enough by that point..

Well done Jasper.  Rock solid as usual...  

Congrats to Richard for the LMP victory...  Well done to team mate Andy for 3rd.


Hope to see you guys next race...

After retiring early on in round 1, the aim for this week was to just to the end.

This was my first race at Sebring (in iRacing), but after little while learning my round in the morning, I was feeling pretty comfortable and able to lap consistently. At Watkins I seemed to be able to find good single lap speed, but here I just wanted an easy car to drive. After qualifying 8th, and a steady start, it was just a case of keep the concentration, and not getting lured into pushing harder than I really wanted to. I made up places - mostly through other misfortune - on the opening two stints, and then decided to push a little harder after the last stop. After racing with Barry early on, it eventually looked like I'd be racing with Peter and Dmitry for positions. We were all on different strategies, so had no idea how it would pan. After the last stop, and turning up the engine, I gave chase to Peter - unfortunately he went off the road before I caught. Things looked settled - until I noticed the gap to Dmitry drop right down. With only a few minutes to go, still went for it, but needed a few extra laps (I'm sure you had it until control  :))

Good fun - it's a far better feeling when you actually finish. Getting round the GTs meant needing to keep concentrating at all times, and everyone seemd to always be aware of what was going on around them, and only had a couple of 'is that a gap' moments.

Last little thing. And it has only mildly freaked me out. Whilst looking through the results I noticed I didn't have my usual number (#72). Then I saw Dmitry was running it. I'd noticed last week that we're also running identical colour scheme on the HPD. I've not done the math(s), but the chances surely are 1 in an awful big number. Coincidence, or the case of iRacing identity theft?

This felt like a verrrry long race! Unfortunately it was pretty much decided on the LMP side by the time we had gotten a 3rd way through and after that it was just trying to keep enough concentration to avoid binning it. The last part of the race was just a blur and I can't really remember any of it...

I managed two traffic free laps at the start of qualifying to take pole without any worries. Got away well at the start, not repeating the mistake I made at the Glen and only Simon was able to keep close but he span on lap 5 leaving me with a good gap behind when we got to the GT cars for the first time - a gap I needed all of with it costing a good 6 seconds a lap to get past them! I guess I might have been a bit on the cautious side there :)

With those behind all having offs over the next few laps there was no more pressure and I was only headed by Paul due to my opting for a shorter second stint. By the end Paul was the only other driver on the lead lap which meant a 1-2 for TWFR and with Fulvio coming through to take 4th in GT and Baz also finishing it was a good day all round for the team ;D.

Congrats to Jasper for his second GT win.

I'm still not having any fun in iRacing since the NTM ...

After a miserable nights practice yesterday, I was pleasantly surprised with how things started tonight - a solid qually, and a solid opening 15 mins of the race.

I managed to pinch a place in the opening couple of corners, and then I was watching my mirrors from then on.  It was all going too well, and when the LMP2 cars started lapping us, I ran wide at T1, giving the place back, and then proceeded to drive like a complete numpty - I must have spun the damn thing three or four times before I quit out in disgust.

It was probably for the best though ... the swear jar wouldn't have taken much more of that.

definitely a case of the tortoise and hare for me tonight... even though we have had two weeks to prepare for this race I was too busy and only practised when i joined tonight. A few tweaks to a stock setup provided by Gizmo  ;) was stable enough but on average i was about 2 secs off the pace  ::)

Starting 7th and a few laps into the race I clipped the inside wall of T1 and the steering was out a little which took a few laps to adjust too, I ended up turning the Fuel Injection down to 3 to reduce power oversteer moments on the exits....which sort of worked. I then went up the order purely through attrition, suffered two harmless spins but was just a case keeping it consistent  :)

Happy with 3rd and grats to top 2... very dominant performance! and to Jasper's win and Darrens 2nd  ;)

ps. sorry to Chris Dawkes for 2 incidents, thought I had more concrete to drive on round the outside of that corner but the grass made me tighten the corner too soon. Hope the contact didn't affect the handling :( ... and also when I took the inside to Hairpin, not sure if you were surprised to see me and outbraked?

That was a real struggle last night. Too many simple mistakes, all but one due to braking. Just couldn't get any consistency and frequently out braked myself while seemingly braking at the same point each lap :( There were a couple of really tricky places again to let the faster cars through too, that fast double left being the worst. I couldn't do those corners without feathering the throttle all on my own! Trying to let others passed there was really tough but we all got away with it ;)

Not much to say from my point of view. This is quite a tricky track in the Ford, really hard to stay consistent. That said, I somehow managed to keep it together. By not falling off (and having some luck with Darren running out of fuel) managed to cross the line in first ;D Someone was always close though, so I couldn't make any mistakes but had to keep a reasonable pace at the same time. It was hard work to say the least, lol.
LMP's were much better than at Watkins, I had no problems worth mentioning and I think it was a pretty clean race for everyone :) Sometimes I felt I was holding people up a bit too much but it's so hard to deviate from your line, especially in the relatively fast bits, so my apologies for that.

Overall a very demanding but satisfying race, and congrats to Rik for winning LMP2!

Well.. what can I say.   I had to quit in the end because of the sheer amount of offs I was having.

Was a bit unlucky to get tapped by Darren on first lap when he spun which slightly bent my steering (and I mean slight) I was still able to drive a decent pace so I kept going.  Mistake.

It soon became clear that my braking was badly affected, the front right locking anytime it could and I went off a few times due to locking up.  It was worse when HPD's started lapping as it was impossible for me to use the brake to adjust my line once I committed to the corner.

This caused me to go off a few more times.  I don't know why I didn't pit, at this point I was just in a cloud of red mist.  The language issuing forth from my face-hole was something to behold  :P

Apologies to Raimo, Who must have been laughing and swearing at me to get out of his way.    I'd spin, catch him up, pass him, then lock up, go wide, catch him up again, pass .....etc   ::)

The final straw was when I caught up to Raimo (again) going into turn one when a HPD came steaming up the inside.  I had two choices. Continue as I was into the corner and maybe swap paint, or tap the brakes, spin out and rage quit, windows icon, shut down, turn off monitor, turn off speakers, kitchen, cup of tea, steam for an hour  :taz:

....I chose the latter

Grats to fnishers, see ya at the next one.

wow this was hard. lol
I had way to little practise for this race. After struggling all week with backpain, I got 10 laps in at Saturday. And after family dinner on sunday, I went right into qualifying before race. So race was only about survival for me  :angel:
Race start was steady and managed to keep it on track in the first half off the race.
Had an enjoyable drive with Adam who passed and re-passed me a couple off times after struggling with breaks after a contact on first lap. He was about to lap me again, when we got lapped by a LMP who managed to be at the cone marker on inside T1, at exactly the same time me and Adam where there. I had just seen a flick in my mirror and by share luck I stayed 2m wide of cone so the LMP passed under us. I had closed my eyes so I couldn't see what happend to Adam(only thunderclouds in backmirror when I open them again). This was the only "moment" I had with LMP's the whole race.
Then Darren was on my tail and I managed to hold him up (sorry bout that :)) until I got wide at last corner.
After pitstop I was 0 seconds behind Robert, and we had a good few laps of battle until I outbrake myself into T2 and Robert got away. Some corners later he had done the same as me and got a spin, and I managed to pass him. Now Andrey was right behind and got right on my tail, but then lucky for me he had to go to pits. From there on in it was just trying to stay consistent. But still managed to outbake myself a couple of times more. Managing to not get lapped by class winner (Jasper by 65m) and then pick up 3rd place is a bit lucky, but I'll take it after all that work.
Thanks for race all, and see you next race.

Well

Was having a good race i suppose, even led for the first 9 laps or something after the other 2 span at the horrible right,
i was thinking wtf am i doing here come on Jasper stop messing about  :P

I think Jasper had a spin then i had one also So Jasper and Darren were now in front of me.

It was going well considering i would not do a lap round there with out the dreded slow spins the week before
Then i got a set up that worked (Not mine) and it was 97% right.

Anyway down to the last few laps and Don had a slow Grass track experience at said horrible tight right 5th is it ?
No where near the track and if he had of gone straight or left he would have hit the service road....but he was flustered which we all get
and he came right..and right back on track into my left front wheel.....Big swear words spew from my mouth  :angel:
My steering is half way to where it should not be.......bollox

As it happens i only lost 2 places or so.

Don very kindly looked me up on iRacing and applogiesd and also posted on here right away. (man after my own heart)

As i said to him.........Shit happens to us all, he made a mistake and so do i.

Sorted See you all and Don next race  8)