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Title: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 13, 2011, 09:30:32 AM +0100
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Car:LMP2 HPD ARX-01C or GT2 Ford GT
Track:Silverstone Historic GP
When:Sunday 18th September
Practice:17:40 (80 mins)
Qualifying:19:00 (30 mins)
Race:19:30 - 21:00 (90 mins)
Start:Standard iRacing double file rolling start
Resets:One


Password:>>>> see above <<<< (#post_event_password)





There will be a hosted practice session on the Saturday evening before the race - hosted by our partners at Legends League / TWFR.

The session will run from 1900-2100hrs (UK timings as ever).


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 13, 2011, 12:23:31 PM +0100
Resuts from last Saturday's mini practice session (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9885.0): http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?subsessionid=4113950 (http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?subsessionid=4113950).


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Fred Basset on September 13, 2011, 08:43:36 PM +0100
I'm hoping to be back for this one, just to confirm the race is at Historic, I'm asking because the mini practice session was the GP layout.

Cheers
Gary


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 13, 2011, 11:00:40 PM +0100
Yes - it's on the historic layout.


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Mahone on September 15, 2011, 05:23:10 PM +0100
Hi,

I wanted to ask if there is room can I re-enter this series. I was originally signed up but for one reason or another didn`t make it.

I`d really like to get into this series but understand if it`s too late now, if thats the case i`ll stick around and keep my eye open for the next season..

Cheers

John


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Darren Seal on September 15, 2011, 09:11:42 PM +0100
Hi,

I wanted to ask if there is room can I re-enter this series. I was originally signed up but for one reason or another didn`t make it.

I`d really like to get into this series but understand if it`s too late now, if thats the case i`ll stick around and keep my eye open for the next season..

Cheers

John

Sure you can John....  There are still spaces in both classes.

Enjoy!  :)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: RikW on September 16, 2011, 03:39:41 PM +0100
The longer practice we had on the Saturday before the previous race went well so we will be continuing with that format:

1800 - practice starts
2100 - 20 mins qualifying
2120 - 25 minute race

(all times UK)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Mahone on September 16, 2011, 05:08:50 PM +0100
Cheers Darren, looking forward to it  8)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Mahone on September 16, 2011, 05:44:40 PM +0100
If anyone has a Ford GT setup for Silverstone I would appreciate it please?

Otherwise i`ll try adapting a more recent one I`ve been using...

Cheers

John


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 16, 2011, 06:27:30 PM +0100
If anyone has a Ford GT setup for Silverstone I would appreciate it please?

Otherwise i`ll try adapting a more recent one I`ve been using...

Bah - setup schemtup. Fixed all the way. :laugh:


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Mahone on September 16, 2011, 06:44:18 PM +0100
LOL Dave, i`ll give it a try.

As i`ve been out of the loop can you tell me what is a half decent lap time around here?


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Fred Basset on September 17, 2011, 08:48:09 PM +0100
Well that was good fun, my first time on line for months. Can't stick around for the race unfortunately but thanks for hosting the practice session.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 17, 2011, 11:06:17 PM +0100
Practice Results (http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=4147731&custid=17410) - I have to say that after building up a lot more confidence at Suzuka, I'm really, really struggling here - and normally I get on well with Silverstone. ???


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Fred Basset on September 18, 2011, 03:51:52 PM +0100
It's now looking touch and go for me to make this  :(

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: C3PO on September 18, 2011, 05:29:19 PM +0100
I can race :)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Toby Bushnell on September 18, 2011, 06:02:59 PM +0100
I'd like to race tonight please in the Ford GT if there are still spaces available?

Regards,
Toby


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 18, 2011, 06:39:36 PM +0100
I'd like to race tonight please in the Ford GT if there are still spaces available?

Regards,
Toby

The more the merrier.

Sadly I'm out - I ran some laps this afternoon and it was going okay, but I also went out for a 9 mile run and my knee is absolute agony now.  The last thing I want to do is to have to operate my pedals for a 90 min race :(


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: JazzGreenway on September 18, 2011, 07:19:34 PM +0100
Sadly I'm out - I ran some laps this afternoon and it was going okay, but I also went out for a 9 mile run and my knee is absolute agony now.  The last thing I want to do is to have to operate my pedals for a 90 min race :(

That's why I never go outside ;D


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Mahone on September 18, 2011, 08:53:07 PM +0100
That was interesting!

Sorry to Simon Trendell whom I span into then in my haste to get out of the way had a bit of a retard moment (sorry forgot name of driver I came into contact with)!

I was carrying damage from earlier hit with an HPD contact and perhaps should of quit out sooner....

Shame the front pack of Ford GT drivers didn`t keep together as we were all well matched for pace...


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: C3PO on September 18, 2011, 09:15:42 PM +0100
Hi guys -- many thanks for hosting a fantastic race. I am v sorry to one of the Ford GT drivers whom I gave the closest of shaves entering the start/finish straight ... my apologies  :-[

I would also like to thank all the Ford GT drivers for fantastic situation awareness of the HPDs approaching them ... every one I passed was a considerate driver and my thanks to all.

As for my race, well it was pretty unspectacular. Qualified 7th and dropped to 8th or 9th by lap two. By the 15th lap, I managed to get a wheel on the  grass at Abbey and hit the wall. Car felt bad but hobbled back to the pits to see what could be done. Thankfully, it seemed it was a puncture and some aero damage, so rejoined and did the best I could.

But then disaster. Three minutes (yes 3 mins) from the end I ran out of fuel enjoying a great little battle for 9th position.

C'est la vie.

Thanks again to all who took part and thanks for hosting.


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Andy Birch on September 18, 2011, 10:29:28 PM +0100
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Definitely my most fun race so far this season.

Coming into the race I was the most comfortable I've felt yet with the car - aided my racing at a familiar track for once. Still surprised to have put it on pole - helped by Mr Walker not putting in a representative time. Guess you have to take these opportunities :)

I'd been able to run nice consistent laps in practice. But that was practice, and at the start of the race I was struggling to be as smooth. Was running the pace of the green cars of Simon and Jamie, but a couple of errors in the first stint dropped me quite a few seconds behind the pair. Another costly spin put back to 5th or 6th before I actually started to get it together. Wasn't sure who I'd be racing for position as the different fuel strategies panned out, but most the second half was a race with Simon G. After jumping me in the final stop, we had a great battle all the way to the line, changing position quite a few times -sometimes with help of traffic, sometimes with the help of gravel, occasionally with a little bit of skill :).

There were a few hairy moments with the GT boys, hope I wasn't the cause of anyone's grief (I know I had one little bump).

Cheers all for a fun race, congrats to the FT-Ninecraft Racing crew for the 1-2, and Jasper for nailing the GT win again


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Gazza49er on September 18, 2011, 10:42:00 PM +0100
Sooo miffed with myself tonight.

Had a terrible Qually, never got a clean lap and i knew i could have got pole!

Start went ok and got my teamie of the line into turn 1 and just settled behind the 3 or 4 GT's ahead untill there was a coming together and me and Ted managed to come out 1 and 2. I started catching Ted and i got to close  :-[

Had to tow and came out 19th i think. Started banging in some fast laps and crawled my way up to 4th in class which wasnt to bad but i really should have done alot better as i really got the car felling good round  here and felt really confident i  had the pace to win.

Grats to the LMP2 podium and Jasper for the GT win.

Lapping was generally good apart from a few hairy moments when LMP's try to go round the outside in Stowe  :o


 


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 19, 2011, 08:37:31 AM +0100
Very relieved to actually finish one at last, if a little disappointed not to be challenging for a podium when Shark and I were virtually inseparable on raw pace.

After another short run with the Silverstone fixed setup I decided I was just not going to survive 90 minutes (or indeed 10 minutes) with medium downforce and took the Suzuka high downforce setup that I'd felt so much more comfortable with and adapted the gears and diff to create a relatively safe setup. Got sixth on the grid despite qualifying on full fuel (was still setup tweaking at that point), but slipped behind Dmitry at the start.

The race itself was intense; a whole bunch of us running very close together up to my first stop; knowing how hard Silverstone can be on the front left I decided to start with a full tank and then take 38kg and (effectively free) tyres at each stop, on the half hours. I think it was an essentially sound strategy, but I came out of the second stop to end up bottled up behind Dmitry after some sort of off, which cost me any shot at being close to C3PO and Shark after the latter's late splash and dash.

In the end, after I broke away from Dmitry having passed him using a Ford to box him in I backed off a bit to make sure I finished - though I couldn't back off too much 'cause RikW was charging in at warp speed following what I assume was a stop and go for him after his first stop. :o

Good driving from all the GTs - the fast corners certainly produced some 'interesting' lapping situations, the most memorable of which all seemed to involve shooting gaps through cars into or out of Club. :o :angel: And a few round the outside of Stowe if the car was dithering about tracking to the outside. :angel:

Sorry to Ted for the move into Becketts that sent you through the grass - I misjudged how much speed you'd carry in there compared to most of the GTs and ended up with nowhere to go but through. :-[

But then disaster. Three minutes (yes 3 mins) from the end I ran out of fuel enjoying a great little battle for 9th position.

Handy hint: turn the spotter on... then you'll know when you're running out and can splash and dash...


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 19, 2011, 08:59:17 AM +0100
Nice shot there Andy. I must do a video or screengrab of me and Gizmo going side-by-side through becketts and maggotts early on which was so dicey, but awesome at the same time. :)

Wasn't sure who I'd be racing for position as the different fuel strategies panned out, but most the second half was a race with Simon G. After jumping me in the final stop, we had a great battle all the way to the line, changing position quite a few times -sometimes with help of traffic, sometimes with the help of gravel, occasionally with a little bit of skill :).

I had no idea what I was doing with fuel as I'd not done more than about 5 laps in a row without falling off in this car before and the fuel manager thing doesn't do pounds or kilos. So I just did 2 full tanks and then approximately 50lbs on the last stint and no new tyres. Was very pleased to jump you in the last stop, but knew you'd be all over me like a bad rash. Was great fun passing and re-passing and the slower class made it very interesting (and hairy at times).

There were a few hairy moments with the GT boys, hope I wasn't the cause of anyone's grief (I know I had one little bump).

I was doing really well with the GTs as there was pretty good track positioning language going on until right near the end when I came across one into T1. It looked like he was giving me the corner so I went down the inside only to find the gap suddenly close and we touched and span off. As the one behind, obviously my fault, my apologies.

Might do that car again now. I had such fear of it as I just hadn't been able to drive it consistently. I won't be at the next race as I'll be moving home and without an internet connection, which is a shame as it's Spa. Then I have to put up with just 5Mb ADSL for a few weeks before Infinity arrives in my area. On VM cable at the moment so I suspect this will be a shock to the system after having such good internet for so long.


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: purdie on September 19, 2011, 09:02:36 AM +0100
Cool pic!

Was just getting back from Inverness (or escaping whichever way you want to look at it  :P) and missed the start...

Spa here we come!


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: RikW on September 19, 2011, 09:44:11 AM +0100
After the first lap mess I caused at Suzuka, I decided to just set a slow qual time to put me at the back of the LMPs on the grid. My plan was to take an early stop if I couldn't get past enough cars to put me off strategy and hopefully make up a lot of time in relatively clean air. As a result I pitted about lap 13 and it might have worked too but just afterwards a GT car span at Brooklands and although I went more than wide enough to avoid him he slid across the track into me destroying my suspension. It's is really frustrating that people still haven't learnt to hold their brakes when spinning :'(

That extra stop effectively killed my race and after that I was taking too many risks until I calmed down, sorry if I scared any GT cars during this.

A big apology to Willeim for ending his race later on. It looked to me like you were giving me the apex and it was only too far into the turn that I realised I was mistaken. No excuses though, crap move on my part and I'm especially sorry to take out a driver who goes out of his way to help the faster cars. I need to work on my concentration in the latter stages of these races as this isn't the first time I've misread such a situation :(

Grats to Simon and Jasper for their wins!


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: C3PO on September 19, 2011, 10:59:29 AM +0100
Silverstone always gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling  ;D

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Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Andy Birch on September 19, 2011, 12:16:13 PM +0100
You're lucky. It's normally cold and damp ;)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Andy Birch on September 19, 2011, 06:58:56 PM +0100
I must do a video or screengrab of me and Gizmo going side-by-side through becketts and maggotts early on which was so dicey, but awesome at the same time. :)

You must have spent a fair bit of time brickin' it through becketts then - this was one of the moments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MsTXVIEd8Y) I remembered during our battle towards the end of the race....



Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Andrey Zotov on September 21, 2011, 03:06:56 AM +0100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150dtAs63nU

Here is video about my race and some events near me  :)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Baz on September 21, 2011, 09:20:49 PM +0100
Nice one Andrey, it looks like you all had a good race, bet Jasper was glad I was'nt there :-[
I'll be back for Spa though ;D

I know its off topic but thought you guys would appreciate this, (feel free to move mod)I went to the 6hours at launa last sat and took a few pics (240)  the ARX is number 055 and the Aston 007 won. The porch hybrid only stopped 3 times against  the usual 5 of the others.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BazWesteh/LagunaSeca6Hours?authuser=0&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/BazWesteh/LagunaSeca6Hours?authuser=0&feat=directlink)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Gazza49er on September 22, 2011, 12:48:19 PM +0100
I know its off topic but thought you guys would appreciate this, (feel free to move mod)I went to the 6hours at launa last sat and took a few pics (240)  the ARX is number 055 and the Aston 007 won. The porch hybrid only stopped 3 times against  the usual 5 of the others.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BazWesteh/LagunaSeca6Hours?authuser=0&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/BazWesteh/LagunaSeca6Hours?authuser=0&feat=directlink)

You lucky bugger, great pics  8)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: JazzGreenway on September 22, 2011, 08:40:39 PM +0100
Hey Baz I did miss you at the race mate, but us Ford drivers managed to crash into each other without LMP help, haha :D
Very nice pics btw, I was watching the race on the ALMS site and that Porsche was really fast, overtaking the GT2 cars :P It apparently has a KERS system powering the front wheels, making it 4 wheel drive. Clever stuff :)


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 22, 2011, 09:16:06 PM +0100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150dtAs63nU
Here is video about my race and some events near me  :)

Good stuff. ;D


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Tudor_M on September 23, 2011, 06:20:23 PM +0100
  It was a tough race for me.

 Got on pole (with fair amount of luck). As race started it didn't go that smooth. I slowed a bit more than would usually in do in race for T1/L1 to avoid any potential disaster and god a good shove in the rear from Russel. Got sideways but car agreed to stay on track and kept the lead. This incident made the car feel "strange" though. Than I was successfully defending from Gary for several laps till he braked a bit late and we had a contact. (Dejavu from Suzuka ;)) Had to pit and from than my race was effectively over.

 In fact both incidents are evident on Andreys's video :)
 
 One word for HPD drivers. When FGT goes a bit wide before turn in and going for apex it doesn't usually mean than it's giving room. It's much safer to pass exiting the corner if you haven't managed to get alongside under braking.

 All in all this race I perceived as much lower quality than Suzuka and more representative of official iRacing races. HPD's in some cases wasn't that polite and careful as they where there :)

 Thanks
 Ted


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 23, 2011, 08:17:19 PM +0100
One word for HPD drivers. When FGT goes a bit wide before turn in and going for apex it doesn't usually mean than it's giving room. It's much safer to pass exiting the corner if you haven't managed to get alongside under braking.

It cuts both ways, though - it often makes sense for a GT to start closing the door earlier than normal when an HPD is behind to show clear intent, especially where there's only a short braking zone and the LMP2 can't simply slice by with late braking. I know it costs a little time but it tends to help set the exit pass up because the HPD can take that later apex and tuck back inside and it ends up costing both drivers relatively little time and reduces the risk tremendously. Out of the slower corners the HPD just doesn't have the grunt to punch past the GTs down a short straight - too many GT drivers won't give up half a second or a second to facilitate a pass but expect a prototype to sit behind them and lose 3-5 seconds.

The performance differences are actually quite frustrating (if realistic, judging by the ALMS races) - in GTR2 the GT1s don't get held up too much by the GT2s in the corners, but fly by them down the straights, but here the LMP2s are barely any faster top end than the GTs, but massively quicker in the faster corners, leading to a lot more frustration and confusion (and danger!).


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Burtoner on September 23, 2011, 09:16:28 PM +0100
Doh, I missed the damn start, and had to start from pit lane not only that took me 2 laps just to lap the Ford GT's then I was already 20 secs behind the nearest HPD

Had a good fight with Chris, about it really.


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: spanner on September 30, 2011, 05:36:09 PM +0100
Umm shouldnt there be a race this sunday??????

Looking at the races listed at the top and theres no link!


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 30, 2011, 11:05:08 PM +0100
Umm shouldnt there be a race this sunday??????

Looking at the races listed at the top and theres no link!

Sorry ... my mistake ... been a bit busy of late as I've started a new job.

I'll try and get that sorted now.


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Burtoner on January 04, 2014, 11:46:31 AM +0000
hmm, This report only got published like 3 years later??, got email cos I was involved in an incident :O


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Legzy on January 05, 2014, 09:03:17 PM +0000
Well lets hope you learn from it  :P


Title: Re: i7e Endurance Sundays Round 4 - Silverstone Historic GP - 18 September
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 05, 2014, 09:46:51 PM +0000
Yes, they really had to think hard about that one.