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As part of preparations for Season 22 we are testing the mighty Interlagos circuit in Sao Paulo, Brazil, home track of the late, great Ayrton Senna. The original layout (1973-1989) will be used in all its five mile, nineteen corner glory - a fitting challenge for the original 67 cars that we will be running.

As with all of our fun races, there will be no moderation, unlimited use of shift-R (with no need to stop and go) and no password. Of course I'm sure we would all appreciate it if everyone drives in the respectful manner we're accustomed to here at UKGPL :)

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_T7_2
IP address	62.149.202.168
Date	02-10-2011
Time	21.00 UK time, race start 21.30 UK time
Track	Interlagos 1973 (http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/smogbike/)
Mod	67
Chassis	Free choice
Qualifying time	At least 30 minutes
Race length	Int Long (15 laps)

Our friends at GPL Brasil have run this track a number of times, here's a lap with Raoni in the 69 mod to give you a preview; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi7EH2hsbHU

The Brazilian Grand Prix first used the original layout in 1973, and for the final time in 1980. Short highlights of that race are available here; http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9119247.stm well worth a look for the amazing straighline speed of the Renault turbo car :whistling:

Hi guys, I would like to participate this event but for me is almost impossible to race during Sundays this is so I would prefer to race during all the week except on Sat and Sun.

Sergio this is running on a Sunday as it is using the 67 carset which we always run on Sundays. Sorry you can't make it but we are testing Interlagos in tomorrow night's BREASTS races so please join us there.

I didn't like this track much......but after a few laps, and a few more laps....I DID start to enjoy it. Good choice Ross.

Uhm...youtube told me the video can be shown only to English !!! What a racist !!!  :P ;D

Sorry about that Sergio, I think the BBC has rights for the UK only. You're correct, it's blatant racism and the BBC should be sued!! ;)

You could try this on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLZGCp_kNE

Don't worry m8...I come from Sicily and...do you know what it is a shotgun !?!?!?  :angel: ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the video links guys - very topical.  Though in this last one, the action has been speeded up by 20% or more, even the commentators voice !  In the digital age, it's hard to know where reality ends, and fantasy begins. :-\

Reality doesn't end, and fantasy doesn't have beginning, but both fit quite well together...

Thanks for the video... and the track is pretty good I have to admit... especialy compared to Sachsenring.

I watched some videos coming from the 70's and for me Interlagos 73 we use in GPL is much more smooth than the real one. There were a lot of bumps that securely were a real threat for suspension integrity and...what I remember about Interlagos is...it was a tremendous track for most of the cars racing on it. If the surface have been simulated like in the reality it would be something like the straights of Sebring going up and down also along the corners.

GPL can't simulate real bumps so the surface is always perfectly smooth. What we have as "bumps" are actually altitude changes across the whole track width, but that's not very realistic.

I've seen some video from rF2 and it is spectacular compared with our GPL. I hope they will make a 67 mod so we could move from the old GPl to the new rF2 simulating the same things with the same fun but, I think this will remain only a hope.

Tyres wearing, weather changements, bumps and other stuffs make this rF2 fantastic...at least on the paper.

Tyre wear is something often suggested for GPL, but tyres were rarely an issue in 1960's racing.  They were designed to last the length of a race.  It was many years before they became an expected hazard.  Consequently, faster pitstop techniques were also developed - took ages during our era

Bumps had always been an expected hazard.  It was with the start of ground effects, into the 1980's, as cars ran lower, that F1 tracks started to become smoother.  

Gave up, couldn't get a good flow going at all tonight and was a hazard to anyone around! lol

Anyway, the server setting seems to be reversed again  ??? 3/132 3/84! I was only getting one car behind which was hard to judge at the start in close battles.

Track was good.  I had one screen freeze in Q, and on about lap 3 I was behind Billy and his car was jumping all over the place; I caught him again later after couple of laps and it was steady.  No idea if that was server or mine/bills connection.  The red bars seems steady.

It is easy to get the settings wrong because we always say 3/132 3/84 but in iGOR you enter the client first so from a hosting point of view it is 3/84 3/132.

Track was fine but quit after 7 because I was motion sick. Shouldn't have pretended to be mini - but he is faster  ;D

Nice track - look forward to the Championship races here.
As Steve mentioned I had massive warp problems early on - took first half lap very cautious - then the server dropped me lap 2. For the record I actually finished 1 lap down.

Thanks to all who took part, having a full grid meant we gave the track a thorough test (I think the reverse is true too :)).

Looks like a couple of people experienced issues but nothing significant has been reported yet. Please let me know if you had any problems.

The replay is available here; ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/S21Fun_Interlagos73.rpy (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/S21Fun_Interlagos73.rpy).

See you all at Road America next week.

No problems here, except for a faulty gearbox.  I was testing both track, and wheel - my newly repaired economy one.  I've managed to reinforce it's broken gear shift paddle, and was enjoying some competitive midfield racing, as a reward.  This became more difficult, when I ground to a halt, with a box full of neutrals.  Have you ever been given a boxfull of neutrals - Merry Christmas? 

At least it's the other paddle, which has now decided to torment.  "WHERE'S ME HAMMER AT!" - I mean Araldite.  >:(

This was always going to be a spinfest for me, the track is new and tough, and the 67s unforgiving as usual. My apologies to Ronnie for that bump, when I looked for my braking point I realised it had actually already gone for a while...and to D-rock as well, for that pearl of a rejoin  ::), glad to see you guys didnt lose any positions because of me, at least.

I had a screen freeze with 10 mins to go or so in qually, apart from that the track seemed rock solid to me, I followed people for many laps and they looked very stable all along (until I helped them taking off, that is  ;D ;D)

Great choice of track, I loved it from the first try, good for racing and a proper challenge, brill choice Ross.

Thanks all for the racing, see you at the next one.

Not as many spins for me, but enough to have me driving round by myself by lap 14. Spun again and decided I'd had enough of 'practice' at Interlagos. Well done to everyone at the back for negotiating T1 and 2 without any contact.......til Sky decided at T3 that that was not good enough and precipitated a pileup. It was then reminiscent of the Keystone Cops as cars reset on top of others and chassis were bouncing round everywhere like shrapnel from a 155 shell!! And all the while, Ross sat, balanced on his noggin just waiting..............Hilarious. Chased Bernie for a bit and pulled a good pass on him at the big right loop after the Cliff wall hairpin. Hope I didn't give you a scare there Bernie, but you ran wide just enough, to leave the door open. Tried to hold off D-Rock for most of a lap til the thing ran wide and off, at a corner I'd never had any difficulty negotiating before. Got down to mid 58's which I think, maybe a PB for me here....3 laps out of 14 that were fair....not a good average. Had no dramas with the track or connection, no freezes or anything else untoward. Interlagos seems fine for S22 competition from where I'm sitting.

Geoff.

UPDATE: Disappointed to find I was the last car on the lead lap and Bernie and Ross were behind me when I exited. Thought I was the last car running.  :(  :-\

I almost missed the race, being unaware its today, just woke up and was tottaly unable to concentrate, rearending some people, which I usially dont do (sorry), spinning numerous times, being distracted by "13924: network device error" chat errors and finnaly parking the car from utter boredom.

The chat errors might have been some minor disconections from my side, not sure... they didnt kick me out of the race. My net bars are covered by pribluda, so I don't know what happened. The errors spammed my chat for 5-6 mins, but in the meantime i passed some ppl and they were solid... there was some lagging in the start of the race tho.

The track itself seems solid and well built, but just doesnt feel good driving it... maybe its motion sickness too, not sure. For a track so technical and tough it feels really boring, like driving le mans with 65 bt7 braby... at the final laps before giving up i was almost asleep and unable to tell one corner from another...

Joe (mini) and I made a last minute decision to have a go. We had never done the track before and my first effort took four minutes. His was nearly five! Tried a few laps in racing trim but I wasn't ever going to be competitive so whenever anyone passed I tried to see if I could hang on to them... it has its merits...

Around lap 7 though I got terrible motion sickness so I parked up and left. Don't think I will be doing the Grads this season - stick to Tuesdays and Joe can have Fridays (which is a pain as we both want to race!).

Good track though. Hard but rewarding when you get it right...

Guys, mod 67 much more than mod GT, requires a good preparation to a race event to have some hope to be a fun event and can be not improvised for a lot of reasons one of the most important is the delight of the other colleagues and then ours. The idea is always to race the simulation like in a real race without to sweep away all from the track.  :angel: ::) :P ;)

Nah, much better to go to a bar or two - have loads to drink and then pitch up for a track you don't know in a car you have no setup for - it has worked for me thus far...  ::)

No problem AA, and very sporting of you to let me back through. I know a few above disagree but I think this is a great track for the new season. Good balance of a challenging layout but offering the opportunity of some close racing.

Only slight issue observed was some very temporary stuttering of a couple of cars ahead of me early on. Other than that perfect.

Once again I personally found the extended qualifying session very useful for setting a time but more importantly getting comfortable with a race setup!

T7 server is set as default for client 3/84 server 3/132 with 3 cars behind so leave it as default in Igor and you'll be good  ;)
Ciao
 

Wasn't me - I'd NEVER make a mistake with the settings... would I Fulvio?  ;D