I see your point Jonny.
And actually I had no intention to suggest using the 67x mod. Also I did not try to make a point about realism.
My point was just about my personal experience from this season in the long Grand Prix series about the full throttle tracks. I did not enjoy them too much. I clearly understand why it is fun to race these tracks in other mods as it equals skill differences a bit. I did not really experience this kind of equalization with these tracks with the original 67 mod (except for the fact that works drivers used slower cars). So from my view these tracks were a bit boring to race. But that is just my personal opinion that I wanted to share, and I wanted to know all your opinions as well.
It might also be the case that these tracks were somewhat boring because in the long Grand Prix series we usually only had around 10 cars at the grid. Maybe with more starters these tracks provide better racing as well. 

Grats to Philippe and Rainier for the podium places!

Unfortunately this was a rather lonely race after Greg lost it on the brakes at the end of the long straight (at Virage de Thillois). I was clearly slower in the first two laps, but I was hoping that because of your fight with Axel, I might be able to join in. With no one to fight Axel was at least 1s faster and I just focused on consistent driving. Without your mistake Axel, I would never have had any chance to win here with the Ferrari.

Congrats again to Fulvio for winning the championship and to Philippe for becoming second!!
Thanks to the admins for organizing the leagues and providing the servers!!!  

One more thing:
In my opinion the high speed/full throttle tracks such as Reims, Hockenheim, Tripoli or Monza do not work very well with the original 67 mod. They work much better with other mods as there is much more slipstream which allows for intense pack racing. But I never experienced this in the original 67 mod so the races were much less likely to be close. So for me 4 out of 10 races on high speed tracks were a bit too much for a season. What do you think about it?

My race was very much over after T1 as well. Afterwards I was somewhat frustrated and when Axel and I tried to make up positions we touched again and soon after I also had a coming together with Paul (I think it was you Paul). I simply misjudged your speed after the last left hander before the start-finish straight and slid into you. I tried to avoid you by going onto the grass but to no avail. Sorry.
Afterwards I was able to overtake a few drivers without anymore incidents. But I was so far back that I settled for a P7. Last lap Evil was out of the race, what happened to you?

To be honest, it is also somewhat frustrating that the initiators of the turn one mess still finished at the front of the pack. After Tristan and Mark touched I tried to stay to the right but was not able to avoid Marks wrack that bounced back from the wall. I guess I was not the only one whose race was ruined...

Anyway, congrats Mark. Your speed was beyond compare today. And congrats to Tristan for winning the SC championship!

And also a big congrats to Doni for P3!!

Hi everyone!

I did a 6 laps test run with the Ferrari and I have a fuel consumption of 6.05l per lap. That makes 90,75 for 15 laps. If I am right works drivers should start with around 131l instead of the 114l mentioned in the race post (10 gallons = ~40l). Otherwise that would be a great advantage for the works drivers.

Can anyone confirm this? Or is my fuel consumption per lap just extremely high?

Congratulations Greg on your stunning victory!
Starting from last position you made us all look like beginners in the end. I spun once and lost around 15 seconds. Soon after that you overtook me on the long straight. The Ferrari's top speed helped of course. I could defend a few times against Leo who unfortunately lost it while attacking me. It was quite intense before and I already had to defend my position several times.
After my spin, I no longer had a close competitor. In the end I gained one more spot due to Tristan's mistake, or was it a disconnect?
I like the track a lot, it is quite challenging with the long series of fast and slow corners, going up and downhill like a roller coaster. And the long straight provides some rest and overtaking opportunities (even when it did not help me very much because of the low top speed of the Cooper).

And congrats to Fulvio for the championship. Nobody can catch you anymore. Not sure if it was already the case before this race but congrats anyway!!

I was looking forward to a nice duel with you and Fulvio after we were that close during quali. And it seems Clive and Greg were also very fast in the race. It would have been great to take part in that battle for P1. Congrats to Clive for the victory and to Greg and Fulvio for podium places!

After the race I was a bit upset, because where I was about to brake didn't seem too early, but rather appropriate to me. It was the first lap, first corner of a 71 laps race with full tank and cold tires. So I am always a bit careful during the first lap. But the main reason for braking at that point was because I thought I would need to share the corner with Fulvio. I could not see him in my mirrors and guessed he was still on the inside. So I prepared to take the corner driving on the outside. I watched the replay and form your car you clearly saw I was already ahead of him so you probably expected me to cut the corner in front of him.

The only thing I am still a bit wondering is that you get that close to the tail of my car directly before the braking point (on the first corner in the first lap) without leaving you the opportunity to react to where ever my braking point may be. Frankly speaking I think that is not worth the risk with such a long race to go.

However, I hope we will soon get another chance to duel with each other. In case there will be a similar lap one situation I can tell you I will very likely brake a bit earlier again especially when there are other cars close to me (like Fulvio).

That was a very tough race with a lot of fun and frustrating at the same time.

First of all. I am very sorry Giovanni about the touch that sent you into the fence. I also thought I left enough space. I watched the replay  and both of us had space left at the side of the road. Both of us could have easily avoid it. I will use more of the space next time. Before we touch both of us slightly move to the middle of the track and then we collide. Unfortunate and unnecessary.

In the very first lap approaching Ostkurve I did a horrible beginners mistake. As I mainly drive the 67 cars I am used to downshift much earlier to use the engine to brake the car. But with the Sports Cars I have to downshift later to prevent the car from over-revving and becoming unstable under braking. As the start was rather hectic, with Tristan, Mark, Greg and myself approaching the Ostkurve in a close pack, I just forgot about that and that sent me into a spin.

Afterwards I was in P11 and needed a few laps until I had caught up with a pack of 5 cars (P6-P10). The pack racing was very intense and made it very difficult to overtake as I didn't get a speed advantage over the ones in front of me who also profited from a slipstream. However, as everyone was in a close battle I could take advantage when someone else was getting a bad exit. One or two times I had to outbrake another driver entering the stadium section. I managed to get through the pack but I wasn't able to pull away as I had no draft.
For several laps there was a great battle with Fulvio who attacked me again and again. It seemed I was batter in late braking so I was able to defend the position. After Axel made a mistake I was able to overtake him and Mark must have made a mistake as well as I was closing in on him in the final laps. The slipstream provided by Mark helped me to defend myself and get even closer to him. But with two laps to go I spun exiting the Nordkurve and lost all the positions I worked for so hard.

Congratulations Greg! Very consistent race with only minor mistakes that let me hope for a P1 finish occasionally, but on average you were a little faster.
In the beginning you could easily overtake me with the slipstream and then you did a good job defending your position when we approached the stadium section side by side. Actually I did not really intend to go for an overtaking maneuver but I was a bit surprised by your braking point and then I had to go to the inside to avoid sliding into you. You have given me a lot of space (very thoughtful driving) and after I overtook you on the inside I went wide with two wheels on the grass so that you could easily take the position back. By that occasion I was overtaken by Axel as well but a few laps later he spun and I started chasing you for the rest of the race (2-5s behind except for the last two laps).

During the last lap I had a coming together with Leo in the Sachs curve. I think there was some misunderstanding. After you went slow on the left before the Sachs curve I thought you wanted me to pass (overlap) and I thought you would give me the corner (because it would be very hard to overlap you on the outside line of the Sachs curve). So I turned to the inside as I did not expect you to be there. However, the incidence did not change our positions in the race so I think it doesn't matter. Just wanted to share my view.

Congrats to Phillipe for P3 and thanks for the racing!

My race was great till lap 16.
At the start I have benefited from the coming-together of Mark and Tristan and the unfortunate screen freeze of Greg handed me over the first place. I could manage to stay in front and I found some confidence after a few laps despite the very heavy fuel load. After a while Mark and Tristan filled up my mirrors but I was able to defend myself for a while, also because both battled each other while chasing me. Once I saw a very impressive incident between them in my mirror. Either Mark or Tristan's car flipped several times and I thought their cars might be damaged enough to offer me a chance for a victory. But only a lap later they caught me again and Mark soon did a superb overtake in turn 3. Tristan was soon to follow and I settled in P3.

During lap 16 I locked the brakes approaching Canada Corner and somehow avoided spinning the car only to overshoot the corner with the result of parking my car at the top of the hay bales. Only way to get going again was a shift r. I had to wait till 3 cars passed me before I was able to reset the car (P6 then). But afterwards my car was just too heavy and everyone behind me was closing in and overtaking me. I succeed in protecting my position once or twice but most of the time there was not much I could do.
Once Axel started a brave overtaking maneuver at Morraine Sweep that took me a bit by surprise so that I instantly touched my brakes in fear of a coming together. I think this might have caused Giovanni loosing control of his car as he was at my tail at that moment. Sorry for that.

All in all I am disappointed with my performance as a P3 was on the table. I still struggle with the GT cars. Brakes are much different from the 67 cars and I tend to lock the brakes more often. On top I never get more than 100 degree Celsius into the tires (optimum should be 120). However, I liked the track very much, great looking, nice flow and difficult braking zones before Canada Corner and turn 5. 

@Claudio

Sorry to hear that, I hope you are both well and that the test is negative!





I have thought about working on my gear ratios after I found that I run into troubles getting through the race with 173l of fuel. But there was not much time left to work on the setup and I decided to try the pit stop patch instead. In the slow first corner, I even downshifted to first gear to get the car to turn. And I used third gear for the last two corners. Indeed it looks like I revved to high and by that just used too much fuel. Lesson learned for the next time.

Hi all,

it was nice to race again after a two months brake. I am back from Malta since beginning of April and I was looking forward to some online racing (even if I think Tripoli is a bit boring as the straights are slightly too long).

I had a superb start and was able to overtake Phillipe and Raoni right away. I could follow in the slipstream of Axel and was very close to him before the first braking zone but I backed off. It seemed to risky to go into the braking zone side by side and I knew Axel would easily overtake me being two seconds faster during quali and with the help of the Eagle's superior top speed. So I decided to save time by not battling with him for P1.

Afterwards I managed to stay a few seconds ahead of Phillipe (he passed me once but spun a lap later) and Raoni till my pit stop at the end of lap 15. I thought I would have a lonely race afterwards, but Philippe was pitting a few laps later. I think I had a 6 or 7 seconds lead over him but he was closing in with around 0,5-0,8s per lap. It looked like he would catch me in lap 30 or 31. So I needed to do a few qualifying laps. It was very intense to drive at the edge without doing any mistake. I think I profited from one or two small mistakes of Phillipe and managed to stay ahead till the end.
Thanks for the battle Phillipe!

@ Axel and Raoni
How did you manage to get through without pitting. I tried 31laps during one practice session and I was running out of fuel during the very last lap. So I needed to pit.

At the beginning of the season I was really looking forward to it, with something between excitement and horror. I think the longest race I took here was 3 laps and usually I needed several tries to do it. But these were single player races and I really pushed for the whole 3 laps. Unfortunately I will miss this race as well. I am still in Malta to do some voluntary work till the end of this month.
If I haven't completely forgotten how to drive then maybe we will see each other on track in Tripoli or Hockenheim. Anyway, have fun at the green hell!!

I plan to take the Cooper and the Ferrari. But as I already wrote, I wont be back for racing online before the mid of April. Anyway, have fun guys!

@Cookie
Am I right remembering that Ginetto provided an update for the new Goodwood circuit that has a new 3do that reduces the draw distance? Because there were also problems with screen freezes during online races with that circuit.
And is there another way to reduce the draw distance on my own? I mean without changing the 3do, because I do not know how to do that.

I just watched the server replay and saw the horrible chain reaction I caused through spinning at lap 1 turn 2  . I am very sorry and totally understand your frustration Doni. So the freeze I was suffering from later seems like karma. I have to apologize espacially to Raoni, Miele and Bob too. Raoni and Miele were taken out in the aftermath of my mistake. And Bob had a superb start from P5 to P3 only to loose it again due to me spinning. Apologies also to all the others who got frustrated by my mistake!

@Maurice: Congrats to the win! As you described the track is exhausting. Well done!