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February 09, 2012, 08:45:05 PM +0000 - Knockhill - UKPnG Version 2 Season 7 British Touring Car
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Mustang Gr2 (#65088) P&G Group 2 2 +0.267
74.066mph
1 37:55.463
72.369mph
36 1:02.279
73.447mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ford Mustang Gr2 (#65089) P&G Group 2 3 +0.930
73.279mph
2 +31.363
71.385mph
36 1:02.358
73.354mph
Firestone  
SuperSWIFT
 
Lotus Cortina (#65027) P&G Group 2 5 +1.902
72.155mph
3 +33.541
71.317mph
36 1:02.550
73.129mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Cortina (#66023) P&G Group 2 6 +2.239
71.774mph
4 +54.838
70.665mph
36 1:03.029
72.573mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 4 +1.024
73.169mph
5 +1L
70.016mph
35 1:02.905
72.716mph
Dunlop  
LesN
 
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA (#67115) P&G Group 2 7 +2.574
71.399mph
6 +35.301
68.951mph
35 1:04.214
71.234mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Cortina GT (#64015) P&G Group 2 9 +3.651
70.218mph
7 +2L
68.325mph
34 1:05.399
69.943mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus Cortina (#66023) P&G Group 2 10 +3.860
69.994mph
8 +18.296
67.781mph
34 1:05.124
70.239mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Cortina (#64022) P&G Group 2 11 +4.287
69.539mph
9 +37.534
67.217mph
34 1:05.493
69.843mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 8 +3.087
70.831mph
10 +3L
65.382mph
33 1:05.070
70.297mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 12 +5.129
68.660mph
11 +8L 28 1:04.880
70.503mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Mustang Gr2 (#66077) P&G Group 2 1 1:01.492
74.387mph
12 +20L 16 1:02.074
73.690mph
unknown
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#64057) P&G Group 2 13 +5.978
67.796mph
13 +27L 9 1:07.931
67.336mph
suspension
Dunlop  
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2012, 08:53:47 PM +0000 »

Nothing to do... I was playing a football match this evening, hoping that I've would have been in time for the race... As you can see... I was wrong  Sad Sad Sad

Have a good race Smiley

Cu in 2 weeks... maybe  Huh
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2012, 09:30:43 PM +0000 »

Hi Superswift. What's the problem when you try to register?

If you cannot post here email me at [email protected]
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2012, 09:36:30 PM +0000 »

That was mostly fun!  Smiley

qualied well in 4th? But then got caught napping at the green light and two guys got past me. Had an enjoyable first 13 laps or so battling Matt and superswift in their faster Mann Cortinas.
Then my rear brakes started to cook and wouldnt cool down by the end of the long back straight, which made for some pretty hairy braking  Tongue
Inevitably the hot rear brakes put me into a long slow turnaround at T1 that i tried desperately to hold, and i lost about 15 secs to the guys i was battling with  Sad
Then had clear track and drove like a loon hoping they would make a mistake up ahead.

Towards the end i caught Matt again and chased him hard for about 10+mins, getting him down to about 3.5 secs with 3 laps remaining, but alas the hot brakes gave me a real lairy moment at the end of the long straight and i was pitched into the gravel. I was a bit fingers and thumbs with my gears and nearly reversed into Clive (who i couldnt see) but thankfully he sailed past  sweatdrop

Finished a lonely 5th.  Told you the stangs would wipe the field here  Wink

(on a side note, what happened to the bottom half of the grid tonight? They seemed miles off the pace despite quicker cars Huh No offence, just wondering why such a big gap behind Les - think it was 30+ secs by lap13 !!). Was it the tricky track? or incidents?

Great track for historics this  Cool
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2012, 09:49:23 PM +0000 »

Yeah, I wondered that. I was having a pretty lonely race in 6th with about 30 seconds gap in front and behind. I liked the track a lot, but the brakes started catching me out towards the end too

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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2012, 11:02:22 PM +0000 »

Not sure the Mann is "faster" than the Alfa Jnr. Alfa gets round the bends better, and seems to pull much the same speed on the
straights. I don;t know why I opted to run Tinas for this leg, I have never been able to get to grips with the brakes
they either lock up the fronts or make the back end unstable. I just went with default setup eventually
and was easier to drive than my "faster" one. Still, good race, lots of dicing with Superfast at first until the rear brakes
locked into T1 and I went across the beach, then had a couple of battles with MJ but he fell off more than I did towards
the end.
EDIT: Oh yeh, forgot about KS's kamikaze attack which flipped me onto my roof for a while
untill the game put me right way up  Shocked Not sure you ruined my race, Super fast was a bit
quicker anyway, and I managed to stay in front of MJ so no harm done.
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2012, 11:52:30 PM +0000 »

Replay and results now posted

BTW ADE, not sure why you took the GT? As a new driver you had the pick of the field.
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2012, 10:13:38 AM +0000 »

Hmmmh

had a good quali and was able to find another second - so I was content and confident for the race.

I'm a slow and careful starter, cause I don't want to loose the race in the first corner, so I dropped
from 8 to 12.
Realised that the Alfa GTA 1300 could brake notable later and go way faster through the corners than the
Tina's but lost ground on the straights due to worse acceleration  Huh (choose a setup with the shortest
possible gearing which gave me my fastest laptimes).
Unfortunately I could not handle this piece of luck in a right manner  Huh
So my later braking led to two contacts with Alex and Bill within the first laps because I wasn't aware of
theses big differences yet. Sorry guys - hope that you hadn't too big problems due to that.

So I dropped to last and had a lonely race interrupted by lapping and a short intermezzo with Sandor who
had his own problems.  

Then Matt on third lapped me and after that I simply missed my braking point before the hairpin and couldn't
avoid to push him into sand and barriers  Sad  I fear that this destroyed his race and he lost his third place - really
sorry Matt - and decided to finish the race in defensive style .

But I love this track which was new to me!

@ Mark J : yes - there were a lot of incidents during the first part of the race in the bottom part of the field which
caused that big gap.
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2012, 05:18:33 PM +0000 »

With the times that Manteos was putting in with the Alfa Junior the other night, plus Stig in the TransAm, Geoffers and Tim in Mustangs, Ade likely to appear and the Mustang's tyres glowing red; I was thinking before we started that anything in the top six was going to be a result!  I wasn't too sure who else in an Alfa might also be a threat over the full race distance.

We already knew that John couldn't make it and then both Manteos and Geoffers let me off as well!  The Alfa threat never appeared and for some reason Ade planted himself in a wheelbarrow!  (Good news for Donnington too!  Grin )

Just before the server was started I found another half second and got below the 1:02 mark and all was set for a good night.

Stig was quicker over a lap but he didn't move off the line fast enough so I was able to take the lead when the lights went green.  I assume they went green because I couldn't see them through Stig's car!

Stig didn't seem able to stay close enough at the hairpin to make his +28bhp count for much but he was obviously quicker overall.  I decided that I wanted to let my "teamie" pass me but had to wait until he came close enough and Tim had dropped far enough back.  Well, I let Stig through but had Tim all over me as I had to lift a lot on the straight. 

I still felt comfortable as Tim couldn't get into a position to pass me either..............until we were lapping people.

Stig vanished around lap 13ish and then I had to lap an Alfa.  The Mustang made good gains on the straight but I found myself going into T1 on the wrong line and too fast.  After my brush with the barrier Tim had taken the lead and it was time to put some pressure on.  Grin

We had a good scrap and eventually, I suspect with one eye on his fuel gauge, he over shot at the hairpin and I was back in front; and this time I had a lead of a couple of seconds.   

At that point I felt that the race was mine to lose but I'm sure that every time that I thundered down the back straight I spotted a dust cloud about the size of a house at the hairpin.  One of these was MJ, who then tried to scare the life out of me by appearing to reverse onto the track. 

Tim had to stop for fuel but then managed to regain second spot from SuperSWIFT.

Good to see you in here SS.  Make sure you have a good read of the rules or your chances of turning up in the right car are limited.  Grin

Hard luck to Stig, who I suspect disconnected as his car vanished from my replay before it hit the barrier.

Never had back to back wins in a series before so I'm well chuffed, no matter how they have come about!  Grin  Like they say, it isn't how it's how many!

 
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2012, 05:40:53 PM +0000 »

We had a good scrap and eventually, I suspect with one eye on his fuel gauge, he over shot at the hairpin and I was back in front; and this time I had a lead of a couple of seconds.   

Yup, that's exactly it  Grin
My fuel light had been flashing for 2 laps so decided it would be a good time to see how many laps were left in the race and my tank...
Answer was another 1, maybe 2 in the tank and about 5/6 in the race  ninja
This rapid calculating plus the fact I'd switched to chase cam to see the laps remaining ment I missed my braking point and bounced off the barriers  Embarrassed

Shame, as was a great battle and one I recon I could have won if I'd stayed focused (And had enough fuel  whistling ), but the final dice with SS made up for my stalling in the pit lane and the marginal refueling attempt (I finished with 0.3Gal in the tank even after my emergency stop  Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2012, 09:20:58 PM +0000 »

Shame, as was a great battle and one I recon I could have won if I'd stayed focused (And had enough fuel  whistling ),

Yup.

I think that the advantage is with the bloke in front here but I don't think you would have finished with all your brake lights working.

I figured that I needed synchronised braking with you at the hairpin!  Grin 

And I was bound to get that wrong once or twice. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2012, 10:12:38 PM +0000 »


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Entertaining race with lots of BTCC-esque moves  Shocked
Love the Cortina. Maybe a bit off the pace but it is a joy to race for an amateur driver like me. I even can slide it around corners (well... sometimes).

(on a side note, what happened to the bottom half of the grid tonight? They seemed miles off the pace despite quicker cars Huh No offence, just wondering why such a big gap behind Les - think it was 30+ secs by lap13 !!). Was it the tricky track? or incidents?
What Eifel said and the fact that giving room on a twisty narrow circuit like this will lose you more time hence enlarging the gap to the front runners.

Congrats to Clive for the victory. Scary sight to see three Mustangs thundering down on my little Cortina  Undecided Hope I gave you guys enough room.


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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2012, 04:47:17 PM +0000 »

I figured that I needed synchronised braking with you at the hairpin!  Grin 

And I was bound to get that wrong once or twice. Roll Eyes

I nearly clobbered you at least once  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2012, 07:34:37 PM +0000 »

I'm thinking of putting out a missing person notice on Stig.

We haven't heard from him at SBRC HQ since he vanished from Knockhill!

I'm worried that he might have taken a hammer to his PC.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 01:02:29 PM +0000 »

Finally, I’m registered! Thanks again for your help Tony!

Most of you might know me from other races/forums as I usually race in the WNR races at NoGrip (only P&G for me) and before that, the GamersCrib P&G WSL series as organized by Mogget. It was Geoffers that pointed me to your Goodwood Endurance race on December 30th, when I participated for the first time in your league.

I'm normally a midfield performer and never expected to finish in 3th position for the Knockhill race! The ‘Stangs were just too fast on this track, but Stig made it very exciting the last few laps when he had to pit for fuel and I was on 2nd position for a very short time!

Hope to join in your series again next time Cool


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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2012, 01:17:19 PM +0000 »

Finally, I’m registered! Thanks again for your help Tony!

Most of you might know me from other races/forums as I usually race in the WNR races at NoGrip (only P&G for me) and before that, the GamersCrib P&G WSL series as organized by Mogget. It was Geoffers that pointed me to your Goodwood Endurance race on December 30th, when I participated for the first time in your league.

I'm normally a midfield performer and never expected to finish in 3th position for the Knockhill race! The ‘Stangs were just too fast on this track, but Stig made it very exciting the last few laps when he had to pit for fuel and I was on 2nd position for a very short time!

Hope to join in your series again next time Cool

Glad you made it in. Your race result should be transposed to the champ table now your registered. BTW It's P&G here every Thursday night. Just look up to the top of this page and to the right and click anything beginning with P7.......
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