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November 06, 2011, 09:37:12 PM +0000 - Surfers Paradise - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) GT
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Samb
 Team 7 GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 3 +1.324
100.951mph
1 48:32.093
98.925mph
40 1:11.605
100.579mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWaza GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 4 +1.359
100.902mph
2 +10.803
98.559mph
40 1:11.368
100.913mph
Goodyear  
Alex Barresi
 Godzilla GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 5 +1.661
100.477mph
3 +14.211
98.444mph
40 1:12.193
99.760mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +2.134
99.818mph
4 +16.021
98.384mph
40 1:11.405
100.861mph
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 2 +1.001
101.410mph
5 +21.284
98.207mph
40 1:11.679
100.475mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team 7 GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +2.906
98.761mph
6 +33.673
97.794mph
40 1:11.772
100.345mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +2.406
99.443mph
7 +34.413
97.770mph
40 1:11.876
100.200mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 14 +3.315
98.210mph
8 +1L
96.620mph
39 1:12.907
98.783mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 GT International GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 11 +2.960
98.688mph
9 +26.768
95.738mph
39 1:12.625
99.166mph
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWaza GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 7 +2.383
99.475mph
10 +44.960
95.148mph
39 1:13.132
98.479mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWaza GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +2.491
99.326mph
11 +46.444
95.100mph
39 1:12.828
98.890mph
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 13 +2.984
98.656mph
12 +59.240
94.690mph
39 1:13.738
97.670mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 GT International GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 16 +4.113
97.153mph
13 +2L
93.827mph
38 1:14.121
97.165mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Green GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 12 +2.976
98.666mph
14 +12L
94.573mph
28 1:13.735
97.674mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 Team 7 GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 15 +3.840
97.512mph
15 +23L
88.015mph
17 1:15.753
95.072mph
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Godzilla GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 18 16 +34L
79.571mph
6 1:19.334
90.780mph
Disco
Goodyear  
jhalli
 GT International GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 1 1:10.017
102.860mph
17 +40L
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Goodyear  
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Moderator's Report

A great opening race to season 22 Gt's.

The rolling start was good for 95% of the grid until T2 and then it was good for 100% until T6, where it dropped to 95% again!!!.
Fulvio thought that he had gained an extra 2 cylinders in his Porsche at the start, as he passed many cars around the outside of T1, until reality dawned at T2. Juha was rolling comfotably until he got a wheel on the grass at T6 and had to suffer the embarresment of waving to the whole grid as it cruised pasthis stranded Lola.
There were only 2 reported incidents after that, both involving the eventual winner of the race.


Server replay time: 0h11m30s

Rash move at Turn 7 is how Samb reported it but "opportunist and ill fated" might be a fairer description.
Somehow Sam managed to carry enough speed off of T6 to get partially alongside Al before T7, a distance of about 50 mtrs??!! This caught Al completely by surprise as Sam's Lola was now precisely where Al thought his clear apex ought to be.
The contact fired Al into the barriers and he lost several places whilst Sam escaped unscathed, continuing on to win the race.
The contact happened because Al did not see or expect Sam to be able to get his car into that position in such a tight sequence of bends, otherwise he might well have left room for both cars and avoided contact.

This is a classic example of the "perceived overlap" dilemma in GPL. I suggest that anyone who has not read the info here..http://www.ukgpl.com/rec_dvr_beh/rec_driver_beh.htm reads it NOW.

Al's car is intending to take the normal racing line, from wide on the left of the track, tight to the right through the apex and running out to the left again afterwards. Because his line through the bend is on a greater radius he actually starts his turn in much earlier than Sam will.
Sam is making a dive up the inside and cannot therefore take the classic sweep through the corner. He must literally follow the edge of the track on the inside and therefore his "turn in point" is only 10 mtrs short of the apex in this instance.
At Al's turn in point, Sam has only 30% overlap and can be said to have no right to the corner. But, at Sam's turn in point Sam has almost 100% overlap!! just at the moment that Al hits him. I think we have to rule Sam's attempted overtake as "ambitious", because the only way that both cars were going to make this corner, would require Al to give up his right to the racing line and allow Sam to go through on the inside.

The overtaking driver had NOT achieved 100% or greater overlap at the point of turn-in. There was no loss of control by either driver. Penalty for overtaking driver.

This type of incident occurs regularly in on line races and we have to moderate fairly and consistantly in these cases. We have therefore always deemed the turn in point to be that of the leading car, which in this case is Al's.

I have asked the opinion of the other moderators on this incident and the general agreement is that a penalty should be applied. But, Al has asked that no penalty be given because he knows from experience that Sam is not a reckless driver and would not have risked such a move if he did not think it fair. Had this been a Lap 1 incident Al would not have had that discretion and the Mods would have applied a penalty.

We have decided therefore, because of Al's comments, to mitigate this to a warning instead of the usual penalty.




  • Samb (Sam Blood)warning — Rash move at Turn 7
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 0h39m10s

Incident at T6 with Clive Gardner and Samb.

I would like to be able( on a purely personal level as I finished behind Sam) penalise Sam and drop him 10 places, but this was a warp contact that caused Clive's car to spin.
The replays clearly show that there was no actual contact, although Sam is very close to the rear of Clive's car.

Warp Contact....Racing Incident

  • Samb (Sam Blood)advice — Contact with rear of Clive's car T6
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« on: November 04, 2011, 01:45:57 AM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 22 GT Teams Championship
Race 1 Surfers Paradise

Welcome to the opening round of the GT Teams Championship for Season 22.

The venue for our first race is the wonderful Surfers Paradise track in sunny Queensland. Many of the GP stars were found here through the 60's attending the Tasman Series events, a championship split between Australian and New Zealand tracks and often used by the teams as 'shakedown' races for their new chassis prior to the start of the new European F1 season. Be aware that it could be a little crowded early on and patience will be a must. Although we are not fully moderating the race, in view of the short length of the circuit the first two laps will be fully reviewed.

Download the circuit here

Please check the Season 22 pages for details regarding rules and the GT Teams Championship pages in particular.

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The GT races are run under Int Long rules and there will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R

Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

Race List = iGOR
Server = T7_2
IP address =62.149.202.168
Race date = 06/11/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Surfers Paradise
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 40 laps
Password: see above

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

GT International Team
Juha Hallikainen, David Rainier, Axel "Cookie"   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Lola T70 MkIII


Team 7
Fulvio Policardi, S2173, Samb
Cars
Lola T70, Mirage M1, Porsche 910


Hiki Waza Racing
EvilClive, Nigel Smith, FMG?
Cars
Porsche 910, Lola, Ford GT40 Mk4


Clark Hill Racing
Al Heller, King Hiro, Vosblod/Geoff
Cars
Mirage M1, Lola T70, Porsche 910


Team Green
Doni Yourth, Phil Thornton, Jason Blito
Cars
Ferrari, Ford GT40 Mk2B, Porsche 910


Team Godzilla
Alex Barresi, Mark75 Barresi, Badblood   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B



Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Password: see above
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 08:41:50 PM +0000 »

It looks like Hiki Waza has pulled a late change to its line up, just to catch everyone else with their pants down ( we don't have that problem, fundoshis NEVER come loose!!)

Tim ( FMG) has returned for a guest series under HER gracious wing. It means that we have had to swap some cars around to get within the budget but we are OK now.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 09:07:15 PM +0000 »

well, not sure how stable its going to be, but the connection is back up for now, after being off for 5 hours.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 01:33:47 AM +0000 »

well, not sure how stable its going to be, but the connection is back up for now, after being off for 5 hours.

Bloody hell.....5 hours!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 09:57:05 AM +0000 »

So, despite the intro repeatedly mentioning the 65's, this is the GT race- right? I'm getting older and easier to confuse:)
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 10:34:40 AM +0000 »

So, despite the intro repeatedly mentioning the 65's, this is the GT race- right? I'm getting older and easier to confuse:)


Lol Nigel....just a little gaff that escaped the notice of the editor, and certainly not a deliberate attempt to confuse you. It is fixed.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 11:06:58 AM +0000 »

T7_2 server is set for 40 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
Maybe I could be a bit late in joining the race tomorrow.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 10:22:49 PM +0000 »

Thanks Fulvio (as always)
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 10:24:24 PM +0000 »

So, despite the intro repeatedly mentioning the 65's, this is the GT race- right? I'm getting older and easier to confuse:)


Ooops - I was a bit tired when I posted it and I did the Novices and the Inters at the same time...
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 03:23:19 PM +0000 »



. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R



followed by a Stop'nGo ??
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 03:55:36 PM +0000 »



. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R followed by a Stop'nGo !
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 06:09:50 PM +0000 »



         PLEASE REMEMBER THAT ALL GT RACES THIS SEASON WILL HAVE A ROLLING START




 
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2011, 09:48:39 PM +0000 »

Hmmm. Less than great. As a reigning champ in the GTs ( Grin) I was quite looking forward to this one...

Alex and Mark didn't appear in iGOR so I waited until 9:25 - so no setup and no qually and when I started the Ford was pulling to the right horribly. I couldn't even keep it straight on the straights. Thought I would pootle around waiting for accidents then rolled it at T3 on L3. Didn't wnat to use my precious Shift-R but it was so bad to drive that I thought "I am not enjoying this". Bailed out.

Got to get the Ford sorted but I wish Alex had chosen a Porsche.

Where did Mark get to me wonders...

Next time Godzilla boys - 9pm iGOR pls. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2011, 10:50:52 PM +0000 »



         PLEASE REMEMBER THAT ALL GT RACES THIS SEASON WILL HAVE A ROLLING START




 

LOL I should have read it before...
I shifted in Porsche mod and started like a rocket very proud of myself, after have passed almost all the field after T1 a light came in my old brain  Shocked  Embarrassed

I left by all the cars till Steve, but I'm not sure to have let by Nigel too, have to watch replay, anyway no escuses for a dumb ass move  Embarrassed

Later in the race I struggled a lot with Steve to stay behind Tim that had a very wide GT40 in the twisty bits  Grin

Unfortunately I rear ended Tim when I didn't take account of his lower turn speed, plus it was like there was a lag, anyway my fault there, sry for ruin your race Tim.

Off to watch replay...

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2011, 11:04:56 PM +0000 »

Replay is available - didn't beat my record though...
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