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  • S22PSC Surfers Paradise: November 11, 2011
November 11, 2011, 09:36:50 PM +0000 - Surfers Paradise - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 SuperCup LOL'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.446
102.415mph
1 51:06.066
100.976mph
43 1:10.365
102.323mph
Dunlop  
Caracciola
 SuperCup LOL'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +1.549
100.833mph
2 +1:02.946
98.944mph
43 1:11.866
100.186mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +2.080
100.088mph
3 +2L
97.734mph
41 1:12.091
99.873mph
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +2.354
99.709mph
4 +51.745
96.088mph
41 1:12.699
99.038mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +0.585
102.213mph
5 +3L
97.859mph
40 1:11.293
100.991mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +0.633
102.143mph
6 +2:14.120
93.593mph
40 1:10.542
102.066mph
Dunlop  
Pierre D
 SuperCup LOL'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 16 +5.408
95.663mph
7 +5L
87.626mph
38 1:16.327
94.330mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +2.021
100.171mph
8 +8L
98.284mph
35 1:12.115
99.840mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +2.379
99.674mph
9 +13L
96.685mph
30 1:11.949
100.070mph
Disco
Dunlop  
clouds
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:09.856
103.069mph
10 +16L
99.127mph
27 1:10.964
101.459mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Rainier
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +1.616
100.738mph
11 +29L
94.541mph
14 1:12.680
99.064mph
Disco
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +3.554
98.079mph
12 +33L
95.240mph
10 1:12.636
99.124mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +1.241
101.270mph
13 +0.271
95.206mph
10 1:12.349
99.517mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +3.058
98.746mph
14 +40L
92.181mph
3 1:14.051
97.230mph
Disco
Dunlop  
blito
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +3.407
98.275mph
15 +2.651
91.149mph
3 1:14.654
96.444mph
Disco
Dunlop  
NewBlood
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +3.534
98.105mph
16 +20.228
84.855mph
3 1:17.801
92.543mph
Disco
Dunlop  
UKGPL 3
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 17 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Only the one incident on this server, in the Red Zone, and no others reported. Keep up the good work gents.


Server replay time: 0

A very similar incident to the one on the other server, however, in this instance contact was made. Joe (Miniblood) gets a good start and rounds up Jonny O to the outside of the track on the normal racing line. Jason Blito equally starts well and zips past Johnny up the inside. Both continue on their respective courses until full side contact is made.
I'm hard pressed to attribute any blame here and it seems to be a case of right place, wrong time X2. Neither would have had a clue where the other was as they were both traveling on opposite sides of the VERY wide straight. To make it worse, both seemed to be judging clearance off Jonny O who was mid track, and would have been masking any possible sighting of each other, until they met at the point of impact. Jason's corner entry was pretty sloppy and a tad fast, which forced him to drift off the racing line at approximately mid corner. But there is nothing in the rules about sloppy driving, luckily, otherwise we'd all be on suspension. I'll insert a caution here, to remind all drivers in this situation to take all possible steps to maintain their own side of the track until other cars nearby become visible. I'm putting this down to an unfortunate racing incident, as 2 cars into one track space simply do not go. To give penalties here would be counter-productive in an effort to produce good racing. And for Mini...put it down to experience.

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Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:09.856
103.097mph
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Qualifying
Porsche 910November 11, 2011, 09:36:50 PM +0000
S22PSC
November 11, 2011, 10:24:42 PM +0000 - Surfers Paradise - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ron-C
 Super Cup NVRacing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:10.192
102.594mph
1 51:19.891
100.541mph
43 1:10.366
102.340mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.182
102.328mph
2 +1.462
100.493mph
43 1:10.364
102.343mph
Dunlop  
svenvangent
 SuperCup 7Porsche7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +1.054
101.076mph
3 +18.778
99.931mph
43 1:11.056
101.346mph
Dunlop  
Baab
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +0.291
102.170mph
4 +58.308
98.673mph
43 1:10.506
102.137mph
Dunlop  
Pedro vd Berg
 SuperCup 7Porsche7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +1.794
100.037mph
5 +1:10.685
98.285mph
43 1:11.507
100.707mph
Dunlop  
Matti96
 SuperCup Ecurie Makika
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +1.262
100.782mph
6 +1L
97.872mph
42 1:12.110
99.865mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +2.083
99.637mph
7 +2L
95.117mph
41 1:12.585
99.211mph
Dunlop  
Screwcutter
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +2.660
98.848mph
8 +49.624
93.620mph
41 1:13.200
98.378mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Vianna
 SuperCup 7Porsche7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 17 +4.356
96.599mph
9 +4L
90.324mph
39 1:15.224
95.731mph
Dunlop  
Stefano62
 SuperCup Ecurie Makika
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 +6.465
93.941mph
10 +1.687
90.275mph
39 1:16.106
94.621mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +0.503
101.864mph
11 +7L
98.136mph
36 1:11.150
101.212mph
Disco
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 Super Cup NVRacing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +2.090
99.627mph
12 +10L
94.220mph
33 1:13.687
97.728mph
Disco
Dunlop  
natan5
 Super Cup NVRacing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +1.791
100.041mph
13 +12L
94.261mph
31 1:13.153
98.441mph
Disco
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +2.342
99.281mph
14 +15L
97.890mph
28 1:11.645
100.513mph
Disco
Dunlop  
vosblod
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 16 +3.498
97.724mph
15 +18L
90.856mph
25 1:15.127
95.854mph
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +2.322
99.308mph
16 +40L
84.250mph
3 1:16.180
94.529mph
Disco
Dunlop  
tom_g
 SuperCup Ecurie Makika
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +0.204
102.296mph
17 +41L
96.385mph
2 1:11.679
100.465mph
Disco
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +2.024
99.718mph
18 +43L
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accident
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 19 19 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

A relatively good start to the season in the Porsche Cup, with only one reported incident....which was part of the 3 first lap incidents due moderation as per the Red Zone rule. Well done gents, overall excellent driving. Let's try to keep it that way for the remainder.....


Server replay time: 0

Nicky turns in to turn 1 from about mid track, while M. Zampedri, starting from an inside grid runs straight up the inside. Nicky's replay shows contact, but the server replay shows Zampedri to be 2-3ft clear of the rear quarter of Nicky's car. Further evidence of warp being the fact that had the two cars actually made contact, both would normally have spun off. As it was, Mr. Zampedri continued unimpeded, suggesting a decent wallop of warp. Heavy warp seems to be more likely in a packed, startline environment.....so leaving a little more space between cars, especially in Pro events seems prudent.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Sky loses it and spins across the track. Paul Markey (Screwcutter) is very slow to react and hits Sky amidships. Paul might have reacted faster but contact was unavoidable. The Chief Moderator (Vosblod) decide summary justice is due and rear ends Paul spinning him off - unavoidable prang for the boss.


Server replay time: 0h03m00s

Fulvio has an exciting few corners. He hits Natan from behind but they are both OK. It is Fulvio's responsibility to avoid the contact but he is experienced enough to know that and this is just a gentle tap.


Server replay time: 0h03m16s

This time Fulvio gives Natan a big whack, but Natan has lost it under braking and contact is unavoidable. The two of them collect Hendy as an afterthought.

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« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2011, 05:49:43 PM +0000 »

Sorry to be so defensive Phil  Roll Eyes. But after I got punted over the armco on lap 6 my car was way down on power and I was only just getting into 5th at the very end of the S/F straight. I was driving all the twisty bits by trying to carry as much speed as I could through all corners just to keep my laptimes reasonable. I felt sure that once you nailed the final 2 corners and came onto the straight in my slipstream it would all be over. So. the only thing I could do was move across early and make you go the long way around. Incidentally, I was also trying to protect Dave Rainier ( my team mate) who for the first part of our battle was just ahead of me. I did wonder if there had been some warp contact when you went off as you were momentarily out of view in my mirrors even though I tried to hold a tight inside line around T1.

No problem Clive, you were driving defensively but totally fair and within the rules (no weaving or blocking).  I had a look at my spin on replay, there was no warp I just gave you far too much room.  I simply clipped the grass with my rear wheel and it was curtains after that.  Next time I'll have to practice the move a few times, if I ever get the chance to attack you again that is Roll Eyes.  It was just as I thought, if you hadn't had engine trouble I'd have been nowhere near you Sad
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« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2011, 06:12:36 PM +0000 »

OK guys, it should seem a very good championship start up for me and our Team Shadows and my lap times with car unloaded for qually were interesting as well (I had 1:09:50 in BC and I've tried the qually car for no more than 15 laps in total). Anyway I was surprised for my Pole lap time made just in 4 o 5 laps, but...this is the strange of GPL. I've spent lot of time in practicing and I had my best lap times around 1:10.40 during the very beginning laps with my Porsche full loaded for GP but, unfortunately, I was not able to repeat these lap times when the race started, maybe because I was not properly relaxed. Anyway and watching the replay, I can say that my driving was good if not enough for the 1st final place at least like consistency and smoothness that for me is a good thing.

Race:
After the green flag I've taken a good pace that permitted me to stay for a few laps in 1st position and making me control in the rear view mirror Evilclive that was getting closer and farther several times until he disappeared from my mirror. In 1 or 2 laps pribluda told me Tristan was closing fast on me and so I begun to watch in the mirror a little to often, so often that this has been the cause of my 1st incident at T3L. I had to protect my 1st place several times and, correctly Tristan raised his foot avoiding any contact but at T3L I've seen him in the mirror getting in the belly side on the Left so, thinking he was trying to overtake me, I switched to the front view a little too late steering a little bit too late just to leave him the necessary room and loosing completely the racing line without slowing down my speed consequently, and that has been the mistake. I literally took off catapulting from the hill used like a sky jump on an aircraft carrier  Roll Eyes Tongue . When I got landed and regained the track in 3rd place (I think), there was suddenly the feeling that something was no more properly functioning like before. Instead I thought some of my pistons remained where I've landed so I was no more able to get full speed and, aware of this, I begun to stretch the gears at max revs to loose the minimum speed possible. That was what I could make but I had almost 15 kph less than my chaser Max Lenclen that caught me in a few laps. I've tried to protect my place a few times but I knew he could easily overtake me along the straight and instead he decided to attack me at T3L (again) while I was protecting the internal side of the left turn. He passed between me and the grass but unfortunately since I was convinced that he would not have never tried to overtake me in that point of the track that means internal so I've steered at turn entry to gain the apex but...Max were already there and...boom!!! I've finished my race almost in the same point I've landed in the previous incident and...Game Over !

Joking with Axel in a chat after the race and considering also the race of Jason, I said, if UKGPL will organize a championship for pilots rearended or pilots spun off...we certainly will win it.  Roll Eyes Tongue Grin

A special thanks to our team mate Axel who saved all of us Shadows gaining the first points. Well done Axel.

Axel tried to convince me not to take any action or claim for my second incident with Max because for him it is due to a warp, I instead thought at a similar situation in which I've got a penalty (Brands Hatch season 21). In that race in such a very similar situation I've got a "very ambitious overtake" penalty.

I'm not happy to make a claim at 1st race but, this will be my next action.

See you all at East London.
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« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2011, 09:45:09 PM +0000 »

My race started off pretty good and progressively got worse.  I held 3rd for the first couple of laps then Tom handed me 2nd as he spun.  I maintained this position as we started to lap people.  The first few I managed to lap without issue, but then I had a few dicey moments.  Have to say sorry to Natan, looking at the replay I gave you a rather solid hit into turn 2 as you slid wide, which left you facing the other way...I expected you to keep to the inside. 

I then had a few incidents as I struggled to maintain concentration and progressively slipped down the order.  I was about a second slower mid race than I was at the start, possibly due my poor concentration, or perhaps the knocks had taken their toll on my Porsche.  With about 8 to go I kissed a polo rather too enthusiastically and thought I'd ripped a wheel off. Must have just bent summat though and after considering parking it I managed to bring it home without losing any more positions.

Plenty of room for improvement!

Congrats once more to podium, you guys drove well.

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« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2011, 01:22:28 AM +0000 »

Apologies to Bob for not driving - Mini and I may alternate weekends... I wasn't actually feeling well enough to drive and having seen the times not good enough anyway Sad
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« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2011, 11:45:33 AM +0000 »

Congratulations Sever 1 - Ron-C, Roberto Teso And My Teamy (sorry captain) Svenvangent Smiley
 
Congratulations Sever 2 - MagicArsouille, Caracciola and Cookie !!


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« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2011, 10:14:32 PM +0000 »

I must correct my previous post.
Like I wrote, I would have sent a claim for the incident with Max Lenclen but, my replay is a little bit different from the one on server2, in wich  results Max was already well overlapped to me (like Axel previously said to me having already watched the Server's replay) a few meters before T3L entry point. He was beside me and faster than me, so when I steered to the left, I've hit his back right wheel loosing control of my car and ending my race upside down and almost ruining also his race.
I've been the cause of my incident and also his one.

Sorry for my bad move.
I was convinced the event has happened meters ahead (at least it seems so from my replay), so I was not understanding why Axel told me to give up.
Thanks to Axel again and sorry to Max.

Over and out !
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