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November 29, 2011, 09:46:43 PM +0000 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 1 2:02.858
119.095mph
1 51:56.328
117.380mph
25 2:02.842
119.111mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 2 +0.337
118.770mph
2 +0.374
117.366mph
25 2:03.209
118.756mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 3 +0.371
118.737mph
3 +13.718
116.866mph
25 2:03.602
118.379mph
Goodyear  
svenvangent
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 6 +1.494
117.665mph
4 +21.396
116.580mph
25 2:03.911
118.083mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 4 +0.931
118.200mph
5 +27.462
116.355mph
25 2:02.849
119.104mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 5 +1.327
117.823mph
6 +52.103
115.450mph
25 2:04.710
117.327mph
Goodyear  
andrwe
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 13 +3.230
116.045mph
7 +56.737
115.281mph
25 2:04.081
117.922mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 14 +3.985
115.354mph
8 +1:24.643
114.276mph
25 2:05.754
116.353mph
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 +2.809
116.433mph
9 +1:55.340
113.191mph
25 2:05.800
116.310mph
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 16 +4.519
114.870mph
10 +1L
112.082mph
24 2:07.624
114.648mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Shadows
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 15 +4.434
114.947mph
11 +6.864
111.837mph
24 2:05.254
116.817mph
Goodyear  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +2.086
117.107mph
12 +1:08.603
109.680mph
24 2:07.278
114.960mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 17 +5.004
114.434mph
13 +14L
97.081mph
11 2:09.371
113.100mph
accident
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 9 +2.155
117.042mph
14 +15L
110.992mph
10 2:06.957
115.250mph
Disco
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +2.466
116.752mph
15 (+2) +24L
95.586mph
1 2:28.342
98.636mph
Disco
Firestone  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 8 +2.130
117.066mph
16 +25L
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Disco
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 12 +3.023
116.235mph
17
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0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 18 +14.512
106.514mph
18
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
lorenzo
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 20 19 DNS ---
---
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 19 20 ---
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Firestone  

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If it had been a race report on this it should have described the epic battle between Al Heller and EvilClive but the possition, (Racereport writer), is still wacant so.....................


Server replay time: 0h01m29s

Martin is a bit out of shape down towards the hairpin. He tries to avoid the other cars by going to the inside of the hairpin but find himself crossing the track into Du Fosssa.

After that the hairpin was full of cars in all sorts of problem and a general Caution when comming up to a scene of an accidents is in place.

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 07:44:23 AM +0000 »

This was a disaster of higher order. Had about 15 offs in the race, don't think i was warping but it's possible that i clobbered someone somewhere. Apologies if i did.

In qualy everything clicked, got targeted 2.04 early, even up to P5 on lap 1. But very soon i began to have small offs and it possibly damaged the car, as i couldn't string a normal lap together any more. Or maybe i just lost the plot plain and simple. So that pileup with Bernie didn't change things very much. Finally finished a lap down on people i was racing with in the first laps.

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 10:08:11 AM +0000 »

Just lately I seem to be having races that are either a lonely run, or some epic battles. Last nights 66 race was definitely one of the latter!!

Al and Tom were setting some cracking times in qually and I needed  a good tow in my baby Brab/BRM if I hoped to get pole. Sadly no-one was kind enough to give me a lump of slipstream and I struggled to get within a second of my PB. In fact my best time was with race fuel on board!!!
 So, 2nd spot on the grid and a clear run to T1 and ( hopefully down to Nouveau Monde). Rouen is one of those tracks where survival on the 1st lap, is very much influenced by where you have qualified. As some of the other drivers discovered, one persons mistake at Nouveau Monde inevitably becomes a problem to share. Off the line I tucked as close as I dared to Al's gearbox in the hope that we would get a small safety gap on the run down the hill.
Fortunately I braked about 75mtrs earlier than I normally would at Nouveau Monde, otherwise Al and I might have been sharing our misfortune with everyone else!! Roll Eyes, because Al was playing VERY safe on cold tyres  Shocked.

It soon became apparent that Al's BRM had a definite top speed advantage over my little Brabham up the long back straight, but there were places where I could gain time through bends and under braking. So began a game of Cat and Mouse that was to last the whole race. I made a pass in the early laps and tried to break away, but Al was having none of it and was easily able to reel in any advantage up the straight in my slipstream no matter how much I gained through the twisty sections.
After about 7 or 8 laps I did my customary check on fuel consumption and was a little perturbed to discover that I did not have enough juice to finish the race!! Shocked
Although I was still leading, AL was close behind and threatening a pass at the end of the straight on each lap. But more worrying was the occasional flash of red in my mirrors as Fulvio's Ferrari was catching both of us!!! Unfortunately Fulvio went wide, and up the bank, at T1 a lap or so later and that left Al and myself well clear of the field. I was relieved when Al passed me later on the same lap and I was able to tuck into his slipstream and short shift whilst we edged away from the chasing pack.  Thanks to Al's tow truck I was able to save enough fuel over the following laps to get myself to the end of the race. I thought to myself that I would wait another 5 laps in his slipstream, just to make sure I had enough "go-juice"  and to allow our pace to pull us away.

I think that thought must have un-nerved psychic Al, because he lost it at Scierie and I had to perform a sudden mid corner correction to dodge his tail pipes!! Well. with about 12 laps left I suddenly had an unexpected lead over Al so I pushed as hard as I could to try and keep him out of my slipstream.
The next few laps were unfortunate for both of us as that was when we started to lap the backmarkers. I got caught behind one car through Sansom and Beauval that lost me almost half my lead ( no-one to blame, just bad luck ) and then I made a small mistake out of Scierie with a stupid tank slapper which allowed Al to close right up...........5 laps to go and the race was well and truly ON.
Al blasted past up the straight and I tucked into his slipstream again. starting the last lap Al was a bit wobbly out of Paradis and I stuck my car alongside across the line. It was plain that any attempt to take him through T1 would probably finish both our races, so I backed off but was still in Al's blind spot. He held a very wide line and was slow down to Six Freres where I had always been quicker. I could not make my advantage into a pass and was stuck on Al's gearbox out of Nouveau Monde and up through Sansom and Beauval.
maybe I could outbrake him into Scierie with some slipstream...not quite.
It was all on Paradis and the run to the line, but Al's BRM just had too much top end and he took a deserved win after a race long battle.

Grats to all finishers and especially to Al who drove a great race.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 10:13:01 AM +0000 »

My name has been mentioned by an agrieved party in an incedent report ,  Unfortunately It does not state the time of said incedent .
In order to protect my good name and reputation I am unable to reply without knowing which incedent he/she is refering to .

Reading the above reports and others it seems this series is turning into a bit of a fiasco , driving manners seem to have become  secondary to "press on regardless" tactics,  more appropriate to "formula hooligan" than Historic GP cars  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 10:47:18 AM +0000 »

My name has been mentioned by an agrieved party in an incedent report ,  Unfortunately It does not state the time of said incedent .
In order to protect my good name and reputation I am unable to reply without knowing which incedent he/she is refering to .

Reading the above reports and others it seems this series is turning into a bit of a fiasco , driving manners seem to have become  secondary to "press on regardless" tactics,  more appropriate to "formula hooligan" than Historic GP cars  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  

Don't know about the She, but I was referring to the pileup around half race on the uphill section. There were 3 of us racing for position closely. My view was obscured by cars ahead, and when they moved around a car they lapped i had nowhere to go. I hit almost stationary car which was waiting for us to get past on the outside and i happened to be boxed in on the inside. Call it racing accident, bad luck or whatever. But such scenarios are sometimes impossible to predict and avoid, no complaints from me.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 01:08:59 PM +0000 »

Wasn't  you Ivan , though it may have been the same incedent . I dont want to mention names here .

Sorry if I ruined your race though I was going as fast as I could off the racing line  Smiley

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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 01:28:35 PM +0000 »

I'm really chuffed to score my first 66 victory & finally break my 2nd place hoodoo Smiley but wow Clive made sure it was bought & paid for - that was one hell of a battle! League wins are rare occurrences for me at the best of times & as for hat-tricks... well expect to see Halley's comet rather more regularly, so adding pole & fastest lap really felt special. I must congratulate Clive for his great driving - we raced close (sometimes VERY close) on the limit for 25 laps & swapped the lead 5 times without incident which takes some doing in GPL as you do have to leave room when necessary thumbup1

I hoped I might show reasonable pace in qualifying but I was struggling to find a clear lap & got caught out a few times when people left the pits just as I was going full pelt into T1 which is always an occupational hazard at Rouen. Saw my teammate Tom was P1 so pushed extra hard to try & join him on the front row as I really wanted a friendly face alongside for the oft-fraught first lap run down to the hairpin. This fiendish plan was looking good until Clive gatecrashed our party at the last moment to snatch P2 from Tom.

From the moment the flag dropped Clive was snapping at my heels - fortunately he made allowances for my earlier braking (everyone brakes earlier than you Clive Cheesy) & we got through the first laps cleanly, though it was clear from the outset that this was going to be a real dogfight. After several laps of relentless pressure, I was kind of relieved to see Clive pass me & hoped to take a breather in his tow for a few laps... but Fulvio was on a charge behind & seeing his red Ferrari growing ever-larger in my mirrors provided an urgent hurry-up call. Thanks to the slipstream I was able to repass Clive down the straight & with Fulvio sidelined soon after at T1, it remained a 2-way battle for the lead. Any speed advantage I had down the straight was negated by Clive's huge speed through sector 1 so we stayed locked together lap after lap until I finally pushed the limit too far & had a half-spin at Scierie.

After that I spent several laps struggling to get back on Clive's tail & seemed to lose even more time once we started lapping people. Luckily for me Clive had his tank-slapper moment & that allowed me right back into contention & finally I retook the lead with a couple of laps to go. Naturally that wasn't the end of it & Clive snatched back the lead at T1 as we began the last lap but I was able to use his slipstream to repass again down the straight & just about managed to avoid overcooking it again at Scierie before powering over the line with a whopping 0.3 seconds to spare sweatdrop Congrats to Clive & Tom & also Sven for making it home with 0.1 of fuel.  
  
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 02:25:27 PM +0000 »

The view from the back wasn't too bad this time round! I, as always, had totally failed to make time for pre-event practising and so turned up without a setup and only a vague recollection of where the track actually goes... 30 minutes of fiddling around to make the car work left me somewhere near the back of the grid.. Not a problem in my mind though - there will always be plenty of retirements in a pro level race, especially at a track like Rouen! In fact as the flag dropped and I cautiously crawled off the line ( a move echoed by like-minded Badblood) I quite fancied my chances of my 3rd 1966 top-10 finish in a row, and certainly passing the easily-predicted-but-harder-avoided wreckage at the hairpin I was feeling good about my chances...but then on to lap two and then the spins started.... every couple of laps or so my concentration would wander and the car would be pointing the wrong way again! Luckily I didn't hit anything solid so all I lost was time.
Fortunately for me, other drivers were having their own problems and by the end of the race I was in a solid 11th place, not quite the top 10 I was hoping for but near enough! As a bonus , I had found 3 seconds per lap in extra speed over the event too!
Apologies to the leaders for not being more co-operative at being lapped but there really is only one line through most of those awkward mid-lap corners and an off-the-racing-line Blito would have resulted in an upside-down-in-a-ditch-on-fire Blito.......

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 10:51:25 PM +0000 »

A pretty good race for me.  I qualified near the back and lost a place off the line (I think) but at least that kept me out of the danger zone in Nouveau Monde.  I was incredibly lucky to pick my way through the carnage unscathed.  There was another similar incident a couple of laps later and again I was lucky to pick my way through.  By simply keeping out of trouble I managed to finish in a decent position.  I didn't get lapped (I think I was lapped in every historic race last season) and although my performance was not as good as the last round my season has still got off to a great start.

Grats to Al and Clive on some spectacular times.  Sorry Sky, Bernie and BadBlood were unlucky but Fabio, Jason, Johnny and Nigel gave me a run for my money.  When guys like these have a good race it always makes my race more enjoyable.  We are usually on a similar pace and with the (rather generous) slip stream effect in the 66s a race long duel is always likely.  Repair your motors and get them tuned up for the next round  Wink

... and Martin, hope you get a finish next time.  You have got the pace, you just need the consistency.  Antipasti needs your points!
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2011, 11:29:51 AM +0000 »

Wasn't  you Ivan , though it may have been the same incedent . I dont want to mention names here .

Sorry if I ruined your race though I was going as fast as I could off the racing line  Smiley

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LOL I know it wasn't me, i mentioned your name Wink

Anyway, i was so far back by that time that there wasn't much left to be ruined.
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