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  • S22Int Zolder: February 14, 2012
February 14, 2012, 10:39:43 PM +0000 - Zolder (1986-2001) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Intermediate (65)
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:34.764
---		 1 43:32.181
---		 27 1:35.450
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Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.145
---		 2 +0.258
---		 27 1:34.362
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Goodyear  
Caracciola
 		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.797
---		 3 (+1) +27.012
---		 27 1:35.756
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Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 5 +0.812
---		 4 +46.107
---		 27 1:36.019
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Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 3 +0.740
---		 5 +53.966
---		 27 1:35.979
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.932
---		 6 +1:22.181
---		 27 1:36.697
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Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +2.854
---		 7 +1:26.199
---		 27 1:36.945
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Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +3.102
---		 8 +1L
---		 26 1:37.376
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +4.048
---		 9 +1:16.928
---		 26 1:38.751
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Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +8.775
---		 10 +24L
---		 3 1:40.774
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Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +1.608
---		 11 +26L
---		 1 1:44.244
---
Goodyear  
8 UKGPL
 		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

A tight circuit and some good racing but drivers are reminded that you cannot wheel bash in GPL. The physics model just won't allow it so leave some racing room, especially in the first few turns. It won't harm to take a wide line on Lap 1 and it might save a reset or a visit to the Stewards!

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Maxime takes a tight line at T1 and Cookie (who is just ahead) tightens his line across him. There is a small touch and Cookie half spins but both drivers can continue. I should not have to remind drivers to leave racing room. Especially on Lap 1, Turn 1!

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Bernie is a bit hot into T2 and outbrakes hiumself as Dave is slower than he expects. Jonny and Fran have to go wide to avoid him and Fran semi spins. Du Fossa is left with nowhere to go and give Bernie a reminder to turn the car round.

Once again, a reminder that you can't win the race in the first few turns - you can lose it though!

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Dave spins and Maxime follows him into the gravel - outside of the red zone. They start an 'interesting' second lap

Server replay time: 0h03m54s

Rainier is a bit cautious on the brakes into the last complex approaching Bolderbergbocht and the extra speed Maxime is carrying is too much to lose leading to a shunt from behind - both can continue. This is careless of Maxime, the onus is on him to avoid Rainier.

The rules have this: "The victim was in full control but braked early (not counting lap 1) compared with the average for the division. The shunter had not followed the victim at a safe distance for a lap or two. The shunter was in full control."

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Carraciola and Rinier finish their exciting lap and Francesco wishes they hadn't :(

Rainier moves to the left and squeezes Maxime leaving him nowhere to go. Unfortunately they collect Fran. This was careless of Rainier but they were racing three abreast at the time.

The best fit I can find for this is: "On a straight, the overtaking car moves out to overtake, maintains his line and has NOT achieved 100% overlap but the overtaken driver moves across into him. Penalty for overtaken driver."

This would normally attract a one place penalty but I have mitigated this to a warning given the tight nature of the track and the racing situation, bearing in mind that Rainier's sight was slightly impeded. He should have anticipated that Maxime was there though.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965		1:34.362
103.208mph		s2173
Race		 Brabham BT11 (Climax)February 14, 2012, 10:39:43 PM +0000
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 12:50:06 AM +0000 »
David,
Stick with it ~ Black Night Racing need the points!

Seriously, all UKGPL championship races are moderated & drivers with a poor or a frequent record of causing accidents do get asked to improve . If I look at your race  history & accumulation of penalty points I wouldn't consider you as a problem driver.

I quite liked this track - but just couldn't find a way to do it quickly.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 05:23:45 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Rainier on February 15, 2012, 07:53:06 PM +0000
If I counted all the races where I had an accident with other drivers during the 2 or 3 first laps, it would be certainly close to 75%    Sad
so I am not sure to continue, I will see.

Dave, hang in there. Your too good a driver and great to race against.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 05:31:27 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Billy Nobrakes on February 16, 2012, 12:50:06 AM +0000
I quite liked this track - but just couldn't find a way to do it quickly.

LOL - I was quite pleased with my lap times which I saw as proof of continuing improvement - 3/4 sec slower than you Bill!

@Rainier - understand the frustration but there are plenty of championships to enjoy. Stick with us somewhere...
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 10:40:02 PM +0000 »
Quote from: BadBlood on February 16, 2012, 05:31:27 PM +0000
Quote from: Billy Nobrakes on February 16, 2012, 12:50:06 AM +0000
I quite liked this track - but just couldn't find a way to do it quickly.

LOL - I was quite pleased with my lap times which I saw as proof of continuing improvement - 3/4 sec slower than you Bill!

@Rainier - understand the frustration but there are plenty of championships to enjoy. Stick with us somewhere...

Thank you all for your kind words.

Tuesday evening was my worst day as GPL driver: I started 2 races in mod65, Assen with GPLracer league and Zolder with UKGPL.
The first race ended after 2 turns in the 1st lap (no shift R allowed with GPLracer) and the second after 1,5 laps.
Both for the same reason : my car was hit at the rear by another car...
I was so disappointed that I forget shift R is allowed by UKGP (one time) !!! 

Now I am back to Earth and realize this is just a game ... Wink
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2012, 10:50:14 AM +0000 »
Chin up then Rainier , hitting esc when there is shift R allowed is one of my speciality tricks  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2012, 11:53:35 AM +0000 »
Always worth trying a Shift-R - if it is Pro it will tell you!
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2012, 02:51:18 PM +0000 »
Dave, you'll find as you get faster, and start to run more consistently with small groups of other cars.....things like that will happen and you will have a horror run for a bit. That being said, it's part of the learning process......it's not easy being a racer. Hang in there, this too shall pass.
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2012, 01:30:20 AM +0100 »
Mod published. Apologies for the delay.
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