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  • NGT Sprint - S2 R7 - Anderstrp: January 24, 2006
January 24, 2006, 09:21:00 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 2 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Rich_A
 CBFR
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 3 +0.822
98.306mph
1 39:36.512
94.396mph
25 1:31.928
97.612mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +1.675
97.396mph
2 +22.968
93.492mph
25 1:32.272
97.248mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 1:30.457
99.200mph
3 +42.110
92.752mph
25 1:31.197
98.395mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +2.106
96.943mph
4 +1:02.447
91.979mph
25 1:33.357
96.118mph
Dunlop  
Nakano_56
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 7 +1.766
97.300mph
5 +1:05.400
91.868mph
25 1:33.237
96.242mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +2.201
96.843mph
6 +1:10.747
91.667mph
25 1:33.687
95.780mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 15 +3.213
95.797mph
7 +1:20.967
91.286mph
25 1:33.454
96.018mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +2.079
96.971mph
8 +1:29.616
90.965mph
25 1:34.230
95.228mph
Dunlop  
enz13_gt
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +2.965
96.051mph
9 +1:36.238
90.722mph
25 1:34.388
95.068mph
Pirelli  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +1.936
97.121mph
10 (+1) +1:49.776
90.228mph
25 1:33.277
96.201mph
Dunlop  
Blaz
 28CD Motorsports
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 13 +2.713
96.311mph
11 +1L
90.411mph
24 1:34.572
94.883mph
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Unpronounceable
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +3.616
95.387mph
12 +41.060
88.879mph
24 1:35.102
94.354mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +3.757
95.244mph
13 +45.421
88.720mph
24 1:34.707
94.748mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +4.087
94.911mph
14 +3L
81.937mph
22 1:35.115
94.342mph
Pirelli  
FlyBri
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +3.311
95.697mph
15 +33.987
80.797mph
22 1:34.221
95.237mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 6 +1.694
97.376mph
16 +7L 18 1:32.556
96.950mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 9 +2.055
96.996mph
17 +13L 12 1:33.469
96.003mph
unknown
Pirelli  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +4.768
94.233mph
18 +16L 9 1:35.219
94.238mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +3.576
95.427mph
19 +18L 7 1:35.599
93.864mph
unknown
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 2 +0.478
98.678mph
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Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 4 +0.981
98.135mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

As the race starts Nakano's car warps quite badly, causing various drivers to take evasive action. Greg130 actually drives through Nakano's car and runs wide at the first corner.
Nakano loses 4 places but continues without any further problems.

Technical Incident - drivers are reminded to check that datarate is set to ISDN.


Server replay time: 491s

Greg130 is following Mark Jonzo down to turn 2, not close enough to, and not attempting to, make a move.
Mark Jonzo brakes relatively early and Greg runs into the back of him. Looking at a few laps on the replay its clear that Mark consistantly brakes at this point for the corner. Greg's braking point was not unreasonable and he would have made the corner.
It is this difference in approach speed that leads to the shunt, and bearing this in mind with the fact that Greg wasn't trying to overtake, the penalty is reduced from the usual 2 places.


Server replay time: 580s

PaulW backs out of an overtaking move on Greg130 at turn 2 and brakes very early. Greg130 appears to brake earlier than normal too, resulting in both cars being slower than normal through the turn.
Nakano is following behind and brakes as normal but gets caught out by the slow moving cars in front and taps PaulW lightly.
Nakano wasn't attempting an overtake and he did try to evade when he realised PaulW was moving back across the track, but ran out of space as Paul turned in.


Server replay time: 1684s

PaulW gets a run on Greg130 on the way out of Gislaved, after Greg has had a sideways moment on the kerb. There is some jostling and light contact as they round the next corner.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1948s

Greg130 and PaulW are still fighting for position.
PaulW makes a clean overtake into turn 4 but then slows too much for the turn, resulting in both cars running side by side with some light contact. Greg has to back out of it when he gets a wheel on the marbles.

  • Racing incident

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« on: January 09, 2006, 12:07:10 AM +0000 »

NGT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 7 at Anderstorp

Date: Tuesday 24th January

Practice 1: 8:30pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)

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(1) Full time drivers should arrive during Practice 1 if possible. Reserve Drivers can take spots AFTER 8:40pm (5 mins to go in practice 1) to give Full Timers a big enough chance to join.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for the relevant race. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See UKGTR Sprint Season 2 Info for general Season 2 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2006, 05:22:19 PM +0000 »

I'm gonner do a few laps tonight for this race - usual password 'uk*****ac'. I will use v1.4 but it would be great if you guys can make copy of v1.4 and paste to new folder then install v1.5 on it. That way you can do both np!! But I will be on v1.4 tonight, server name is UKGTR plz select ISDN.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 05:24:48 PM +0000 »

Prolly not gonna join in tonight, but why ISDN? I never had problems with dsl/cable Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2006, 05:50:27 PM +0000 »

Less strain on server, you should be using ISDN for all (GTR) races.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2006, 06:05:25 PM +0000 »

I'd like to, Rich!  Smiley

When?
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2006, 07:29:04 PM +0000 »

I'd like to, Rich!  Smiley

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Yea i'll be on about 8pm - got to read some stuff on nascar cambers first.

I say ISDN cause on DSL, when i'm hosting 7 sometimes can go laggy but on ISDN it's fine. ISDN is 12 datarate which was high back in the F12002 days so np.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2006, 10:12:08 PM +0000 »

Thanks for hosting, Rich, I enjoyed it. And Jon also made a contribution to the Penguins.  Smiley

(I hope so...  Undecided )
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2006, 10:23:47 PM +0000 »

Np my 1mb connection is rock stable after engineer visited, haven't had disconnection in 68 days according to router. Nice little stint there - you got a run on me Tom and then I locked front tyres straight into tyre wall!! Funny car the 911, if I can master the braking i'll be on to something, fronts tend to stay quite cool.  Smiley

That F360 looks ace, nice low profile. Noticed you lock front inside a bit..  Grin

Take me ages making a setup, in fact don't think i've ever finished one - see you tomorrow.. !  Cool
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2006, 09:25:18 PM +0000 »

Grrr....
very laggy for me so had to leave to be safe, I was worried I'd cause mayhem at the start.

Those Eircom barstewards upgraded the line last week and this is what they provide Angry
I did a line test after I'm showing upload at 192 and download at 2.2 so on the surface it looks ok but in reality its like having a 56k modem.


Pity, was really looking forward to a another good scrap with JonM Sad
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 09:26:12 PM +0000 »

Gutted, gutted, gutted.

EASILY my best qualifying performance in 4th and I get a "lost connection to host" when it ticked through to the warm-up session and (obviously) couldn't get back in.

This is me -->  :'(

Stupid, stupid game  Angry

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2006, 09:26:42 PM +0000 »

Man am I miffed! (there's a word I haven't heard in a while)

The local phone company has been upgrading the line here and as a result I was getting pings of 500 and more. (cheers Shark for telling me what it was - would have spoiled the race for someone if you hadn't)

Checked the ole internetfrog and my upload speed is varying between 50 and 150, dowload between 1.7Meg and .7Meg with a QOS of 58%....grrrrrr.......

Hope it all went well tho and go KerbCrawlers!

I'm off to drive a Corvette around the Nordschleife, maybe that'll put a smile on my face!


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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2006, 09:51:57 PM +0000 »

I was gonna start this post by swearing and cursing and then saying I had no words for it... Which would have been a contradiction... I try to avoid those, unfortunately Simbin doesn't...

I don't even wanna see this one on my record tbh Sad So far all races I joined I've scored points * sniff *

Pacing myself nicely in 5th, make a mistake (or tire already gone!?), spin off, gently hit tire barrier... Right rear tire has a puncture!? LOL! O K
Take it to the pit avoiding other traffic... Speed limiter on... Nice arrow at the end of the straight, bumblebee the Bi-T towards it... Stop under it... NOTHING! ROFL! Just nothing! Sat there for a minute thinking... Ok, I could go round the track again! Hehe, didn't wanna do that to the other drivers though Wink, but seriously including the 3 before me, this is cack!

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P.S. FFS! Oops... Hihi, I lied... Go tell Simbin...
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2006, 10:09:35 PM +0000 »

Lol, sounds like a bad race, I'll have to pop into a NGT sesh at some point, see what the 360's like again!

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2006, 10:10:36 PM +0000 »

Not good for me either.

Dunno what's happened to GTR cause I never had frame rate issues like this in game. I was getting 10-20fps on the start finish straight it was making me feel motion sick. Same as Spa last week. Tried all sorts of stuff leaving the game and adjusting ini and plr settings to no avail. Offline with a full grid of 24 AI players I was getting 40-50fps on the start finish straight with well over 30fps even on lap 1 where all the cars are bunched up. My system is and always has been more than capable of running GTR. It does something like 118fps offline when practicing alone!

After spending the 95% of the Practice and Qual session leaving and joining and fiddling with settings to try and solve my frame rate issues I did 1 qualifying lap in the session with a couple of minutes to go which put me 5th on the grid. Not bad and only actually 0.2 behind my Morgan PB.

Saw Edza and Mo with 500ms ping times during qualifing and practice and they very kindly left before the race (cheers guys) and my FPS was better (still not normal) during the race than qualifying (so possibly related).

Race was a dull affair to be honest. Watch Truetom and the others piss off into the distance for which my Morgan simply had no response. I'm finding the ultimate lack of straight line speed in the Morgan the biggest killer in comparison to the other cars.

With about 11 minutes to go JonM started making mistakes and he appeared a few secs ahead. Ah ha I thought, he's having trouble, although by that time my tyres were going off too and my lap times were dropping off, I was just taking it easy as there was no threat from behind and no way to catch drivers ahead without mistakes.

Then with about 10 or 9 minutes to go lack of grip into the braking into the first corner at the end of the long straight (I was gradually having to brake earlier and earlier into the corner anyway as either the brakes were fried or the tyres just wouldn't grip that well under braking anymore) I didn't make the corner and headed off through the gravel into the tyre barrier. The pit bloke said something like "you've damaged your blurgh" but I just couldn't hear what he was saying. Then spent 60 seconds getting out of the gravel as the wheels were spinning but movement was nay to be had. Finally got back onto track about 10th I think and discovered the bloke had probably said something along the lines of "you've damaged the entire front end of your car and it's f**ked". It didn't seem to want to accelerate in a straight line and as I broke for the next corner, well, it didn't do much other than "sorry sir, but you can't expect to brake from 100mph when I told you the front end of your car is f**ked".

And that was that.  Smiley

If I get bad FPS again next race I dunno what I'll do, I can't play without smooth frame rate as (a) i get motion sick with low framerates (b) controlling the car is difficult when it's not smooth as it's not getting as many control samples per second.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2006, 10:13:24 PM +0000 »

Really gutted guys. I'd like to say "don't worry! We've got GTL and rFactor to use instead in the future!" But neither of them are any better  Angry

Couldn't believe it when you dropped out Pops, that was the best NGTL qually probably ever- not just top of the mid pack but right up there with top 3 times. Utter bollocks! There! I've sworn for you Tyf!

Had a few probs in qually and got about 10th. Kept is nice and steady throughout the race and, aside from one tap into the big stop at turn 2 and a spin of my own creation, incident free. Enjoyed some great tussles with Greg whose tyres looked as knackered as mine felt. I was watching the tyre temps around thaat last bend each lap and both lefts were soaring through all the friction, barley recovering before the next time I reached that corner. V pleased and surprised to have fluked 4th.
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