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« on: January 09, 2006, 06:42:28 PM +0000 »

I've collated this list of cars and variants in each class from the in-game list and the drivers guides. Please let me know if you think I've missed anything or if there are any mistakes. The two times listed after each car are benchmark times taken from GTL Rank, for Hockenheim Short and Anderstorp respectivly. I've ignored the top few times and looked for a cluster of results just below that. I'm not sure how accurate this method of judging relative performance will be, for some cars there are not enough results on GTL Rank yet.


TC-65
Abarth 1000TC                                                    1:20.5                      ?
Alfa Romeo GTA                                                  1:16.5                      1:53.5
Austin Mini Cooper S                                            1:18.0                      1:55.0
Ford Falcon                                                         1:19.0                      1:54.5
Ford Mustang                                                      1:19.5                      ?
Jaguar MkII                                                         ?                              ?
Lotus Ford Cortina                                               1:17.5                       1:55.0?


GTC-65
AC Shelby Cobra 289 (black)                                ?                              ?
AC Shelby Cobra 427 (blue or green)                     1:15.0                     1:46.0
Austin Healy 3000                                                1:17.5?                    ?
Chevrolet Corvette '65                                         ?                              ?
Ferrari 275 GTB/C                                               1:18.0                      ?
Ford GT40                                                          1:15.5?                    ?
Jaguar E-Type (fastback)                                     ?                              ?
Jaguar E-Type (blister cockpit)                             ?                              1:51.5?
Lotus Elan 26R                                                    1:15.5                      1:49.5?
Lotus Elite                                                          ?                              ?
Mercedes 300SL Roadster                                    ?                              1:54.5
Renault Alpine A110                                            1:18.0                       ?
Shelby Daytona Coupe                                         ?                              ?
Shelby GT350                                                     ?                              ?
TVR Griffith 400


GTC-TC-76
BMW CSL Alpina (blue & white)
BMW CSL Shnitzer (red & white)
Chevrolet Corvette '69 - (big-block V8)
Chevrolet Corvette '74 - (small block V8)
De Tomaso Pantera (factory)
De Tomaso Pantera (non factory)
Ford Capri 2600 RS (brown)
Ford Capri 3100 RS (blue)
Ford Escort 2000 RS
Porsche 906
Porsche 911 RSR ("duck-tail")
Porsche 911 RSR lightweight ("duck-tail")
Porsche 911 RSR ("whale-tail")
Porsche 914-6 GT
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 07:00:25 PM +0000 »

Very good post, Aagramn! Not really had a good idea what was where.  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2006, 07:23:41 PM +0000 »

There is oe iniemini tiny thing. There is another Porsche 911. There are 2 "heavy" Porsches, ducktail and whaletail, but the 200k version is lighter with a whaletail. Might look like nothing special, but the 200k version is a whole other level of driving.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2006, 07:27:14 PM +0000 »

Thanks Ruskus, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2006, 08:34:07 PM +0000 »

If you want a description of most cars, go here: http://www.gt-legends.com/support_en.php and download the DRIVING & TECH GUIDES.
In my last post I made a mistake, the 200k has ducktail, but you had that right immediatly  Aagramn, sorry.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2006, 08:41:24 PM +0000 »

Internally the results database is keeping a record of the individual car numbers used, so eventually we'll be able to enter the HP, top speed and weight data from the in-game screens and collate that data against our lap records, and against the data Aagramn is collecting above.

Let's hope we can make head and tail of it! Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2006, 09:11:37 PM +0000 »

Is the Elite really out of it's league in GTC65 or am I just very bad at driving it?

It's a pity as it is probobly much more representetive of what was really racing in the early 60s. It would be better to run it with touring cars.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2006, 09:54:34 PM +0000 »

If you want a description of most cars, go here: http://www.gt-legends.com/support_en.php and download the DRIVING & TECH GUIDES.
In my last post I made a mistake, the 200k has ducktail, but you had that right immediatly  Aagramn, sorry.

Already got the guides thanks Ruskus. Np on the mistake, luckily I can tell the difference between a duck and a whale.  Wink

Is the Elite really out of it's league in GTC65 or am I just very bad at driving it?

The Elite is pretty slow. There are big performance differences in the GTC-65 class, and quite a bit of overlap with the TC-65s.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2006, 10:15:14 PM +0000 »

Hmm, I'm finding that there aren't really enough laptimes on GTL Rank for a lot of cars to make any decent judgements on their performance.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 07:24:07 AM +0000 »

Hmm, I'm finding that there aren't really enough laptimes on GTL Rank for a lot of cars to make any decent judgements on their performance.


I may be able to help here as i have some results from League testing that may give some times for the cars used.
Unfortunately my work has blocked all the forums i use so can only do this at Night or before work.

But if it wil help i am willing to get a list together with what i still have on file.

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 01:47:07 PM +0000 »

Yes please Pete, might be useful for us.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 06:43:19 PM +0000 »

I've collated this list of cars and variants in each class from the in-game list and the drivers guides. Please let me know if you think I've missed anything or if there are any mistakes. The two times listed after each car are benchmark times taken from GTL Rank, for Hockenheim Short and Anderstorp respectivly. I've ignored the top few times and looked for a cluster of results just below that. I'm not sure how accurate this method of judging relative performance will be, for some cars there are not enough results on GTL Rank yet.


Thats probably a very good idea because there is a known problem somewhere between GTL and GTLRank , which swaps your fastest time at one track and renames it with another track.
You may know this already too,  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 08:56:02 PM +0000 »

I've driven a 1:40.543 at Anderstorp in a Pantera so I know that that time is true. Some times at GTL rank are hard to believe. Like teh Abarth having fastest time  Huh
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 09:22:01 PM +0000 »

Yes please Pete, might be useful for us.


I will see what i can find do you want me to pm or post on this thread?

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2006, 07:14:04 AM +0000 »

Hoch Short,
TVR GRIFFITH400       average time 1.15.651  allthough this guy has done a 1.14

The others have all done slower best time than those you have posted so far.

Anderstorp
Mini Cooper S             1.53.6
Cortina                      1.56.0
Falcon                       1.54.7
Alfa                           1.53.3


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