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April 22, 2012, 09:38:25 PM +0100 - Reims (1954-72) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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jhalli
 GT International GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 2 +0.659
151.566mph
1 52:19.216
147.891mph
25 2:02.653
151.406mph
Goodyear  
Mark75 Barresi
 Godzilla GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 1 2:01.865
152.385mph
2 +34.375
146.289mph
25 2:02.561
151.520mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWaza GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 4 +1.169
150.937mph
3 +40.571
146.004mph
25 2:03.768
150.042mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 GT International GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 3 +0.922
151.241mph
4 +49.157
145.610mph
25 2:03.084
150.876mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Green GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 7 +2.256
149.615mph
5 +49.287
145.605mph
25 2:03.255
150.667mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 GT International GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 12 +5.011
146.367mph
6 +1:03.272
144.969mph
25 2:03.773
150.036mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 6 +1.726
150.257mph
7 +1:11.934
144.578mph
25 2:04.417
149.259mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 5 +1.717
150.268mph
8 +1:31.635
143.696mph
25 2:04.949
148.624mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team 7 GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 8 +2.319
149.540mph
9 +1:41.496
143.259mph
25 2:05.443
148.039mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 11 +4.415
147.057mph
10 +2L
141.287mph
23 2:05.942
147.452mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Green GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +12.361
138.352mph
11 +2:18.178
135.112mph
23 2:13.076
139.547mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWaza GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 9 +2.356
149.495mph
12 +21L
133.430mph
4 2:07.025
146.195mph
Camshaft
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Godzilla GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 13 +7.788
143.232mph
13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Alex Barresi
 Godzilla GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 16 14 ---
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Goodyear  
Samb
 Team 7 GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 10 +2.877
148.871mph
15 ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 15 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Once again a clean race with no reported incidents.
This circuit suited those cars with a high top speed and the big Ford GTs dominated.
There were a few retirements but some drivers in the slower cars pushed on to the end of the race and scored valuable points for their teams.
Just one more race to go in this season's championship and I think all drivers should be commended on their very good driving and the respect they give to each other in these cars which are not always the easiest to control.
Let us hope that we can maintain this standard for the last race guys.

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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2012, 06:28:10 PM +0100 »

Yes you did well Jason and scored some good points for the team.  Notwithstanding our individual finishing positions we were the third highest points scoring team Grin  I'm glad you enjoyed the French countryside, I couldn't believe how beautiful it was, I had to have a couple of closer looks Roll Eyes

I didn't suffer from the "brake issue" this time.  I'm coming to the conclusion it is caused by the front being too soft.
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2012, 07:04:35 PM +0100 »

Congratulations to Juha and Axel ! Now our GT International team is the new leader of the championship !

Champagne for you (By the way, Reims is the main city for this beverage Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2012, 09:35:53 PM +0100 »

good race for me and the team  , good work Rainier and Cookie !!  

Mark did very good qualifying time and i thought i wasn't able to beat it even with the kind help of Evil gave me tow on backstraight, that helped me to take 2nd spot to the grid. I was too lazy try another hot lap to beat Mark's time.  

i did follow Mark very close through the race distance, several leader changes we did, after 20 laps Mark did small mistake and slides to the cornfields , i was able to take lead and cross the finish line as a winner  .

seems that Mark is taking GT championship this year.

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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 09:16:55 AM +0100 »

Hi guys, but...does the Porsche the only one car having this brake bug ?
That bug makes Porsches very unreliable under braking, otherwise it would have been a very pleasant car to drive.
I still didn't understand why sometimes it does happens and some others it does not !
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2012, 11:43:28 AM +0100 »

No Sergio, all the GTs do have that bug sometimes.

But I did the 25 laps with heavy braking into 2 turns without any lock.
IMO it has to do with stiffer front springs and shocks and controlled not too hard braking...

This was my first race where I made a special quali setup to have a higher speed on the straights without tow -> 350 kmh!

The race start was good as I was able to keep in the tow of Juha and Mark,
 but in lap 3 my engine blew on the long straight and with the s+g I fell back to 12th. 
I had some laps left and was able to find my way back through the field to the 4th place, but Doni could keep in my tow the last laps...
Into the last turn my car got a little instable under braking and we had our touch and spin...
Doni recovered first and was away for the SF-line but under full accelleration I saw he was slower so I could pass the line with 0,15 sec in front.
Sorry Doni!
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2012, 12:48:50 PM +0100 »

 After Axel blew his engine and allowed me to take 3rd spot I had quite a lonely race in my Mk4 and I was able to enjoy my birthday drive through the French countryside. Once or twice my lack of concentration forced me to take the escape road at the end of the straight to avoid running into the barriers. From prib I could see that Doni was a little way behind but no threat even if I did run wide occasionally  Roll Eyes

I was able to put in a couple of quicker laps and regain the safety margin, but I could not match the pace of Mark and Juha up front, so unless they took each other off the track 3rd was as good as it was going to get for me.

Towards the end Axel showed up on prib and his battle with Doni was bringing them closer, but I calculated that I was safe until the chequered flag and cruised home in the Mk4 tank.  I have to say it was awesome nailing the gas down the long straight and watching the speed build even without a draft  Grin.

It seems that other drivers have come to the same conclusion as I have, in that the "braking bug" can be overcome by making the front end far stiffer than we do with the open wheeled cars and upping the bump and rebound as well. Then it requires some delicate balancing of the brakes to avoid locking the wheels, rather than stomping on the brakes at the end of the straight. When you get it right these cars slow down very quickly and without any of the problems that everyone complained about when the GT mod first emerged.
Actually I think it is quite realistic, a bit like driving without anti-lock brakes?   just as it might have been back in 1967. I now run these GT's far stiffer than anything else in GPL ( the Porsche benefits from the stiffer settings too IMHO) and I rarely get a problem unless I leave my braking far too late and panic........ so actually quite often  Undecided
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2012, 01:24:46 AM +0100 »

Sorry for the late report, gents.  Seems that only Thursday evenings I'm free to catch up on a lot of things.

Grats to Juha for a fine victory!  Great job...but some bad luck, too...by Mark to score P2.  A fine run by Clive to make it a Ford sweep of the top three.  Well done all.

I got in a good solo lap in my P4 but could kick myself in the butt for not going out to try and get a tow so I could start closer to the Fords.  I just knew that they'd fly and I wanted to try and tag along.

On the first flying lap, I was surprised and delighted to be able to gun down Al's Mirage on the home straight and gain a slot going into T1.  Comes T2 and I really blow it coming within an ace of losing the Ferrari in a tank-slapper.  I managed to just save the slides and saw Al lining me up for T3 and yielded.

On the back straight, both Al and I whistled by Thom's Lola but I'm afraid that I let my obstinance win out over sense and pushed it way too deep into Thillios.  Both Al and I rocketed off and had to take the escape road.  Luckily, I recovered and took off after Fulvio's Lola.  I was surprised to push by easily on the pit straight and pick up P7.  At Muzon, lining up just behind Tim's Lola, I saw Fulvio roaring up like the wind on my inside.  I braked hard and early thinking that, surely, he was not going to make the corner and go streaming across my bow at speed.  Judging by what I saw from Tim, he saw it coming, too.  He braked hard and early as well and delayed his corner turn-in.  Fulvio did, indeed, go blasting by both of us, all crossed up and on his way to the haybales.  Bad luck, FP.  Pretty headsup driving from Tim considering how far back Fulvio was.

Cookie blew up on the back straight and we all jumped a slot but I thought that at this early phase, there was every chance that we'd be hearing from him again later on.  Truer words were never spoken!   laugh

I hooked up with Tim and Thom along the back straight but then got a shock when Al came blistering in on braking for Thillios and just blew past me with ease.  Clearly, I was being to cautious on the brakes.  L4 and from P7, I had Tim, Thom and Al directly ahead with Dave not far behind and having a fine race.  Disaster at Muzon!  Thom got loose on throttle and collected Al in a spin.  I squirted through to follow Tim with Dave making it as well.

Coming up to finish L4 and Tim had the Lola motor go South despite babying it.  Bad luck, TM.

This left me in P4 with a long, long way to go but out of the hunt with the Fords long gone.  Dave was stickying to me like glue and I couldn't shake him.  For a couple of laps, I just drove the line but then started to weave in hopes of breaking the slight tow he was receiving.  It took many, many laps but I finally broke free.  All the while, Cookie was making inroads.

On L17, I got the news from the pitgy.  Cookie next behind and by only about six seconds.  Here we go!  Evil was just out of reach about nine seconds up the road.  The cost of that L2 off was now becoming apparent.

It was ineviatble that Axel was going to gun me down and on L20, he surged by for P4 on the way to Thillois.  Dave had tagged along with Cookie and wasn't far behind either til a late-race off set him back.

In fact, I was rather hoping that Axel would tow me along and we could get a shot at Clive but no, time ran out.  On the last lap, I got a nice pass through Muzon to follow Axel closely along the back straight.  It was my last chance to shine so decided to make a bit of a go of it on the run into Thillois.  I pulled out of Cookie's slipstream as we braked for Thillois and moved right.  So did he.  A little waver under braking, apparently.  I couldn't avoid the big Mk2 and we collided.  From my view and in my replay cap, Axel's car burst into flames and spun across my bow.  I recovered first and took off for the S/F line just up the road.  HUH?  My V-12 was just puttering along.  Seemed way down on power.  Axel got going again to just...and only just...pip me at the line.  I would have been lucky in the first place to get by Cookie so it all ended fairly in the end.

This may have been my Swan Song for Team Green in the S22GT series.  While I've made every race thus far, our season closer is on May 06.  This just happens to be the season-opening club race at Mosport.  Of course, I love the clubbies and am keen to go and it's only about a 1-1/2 hour drive.  Also, under new ownership, I understand that millions have been sunk into the facility in the last few months.  I'm keen to see.

It may come down to a coin toss.   Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2012, 12:15:53 PM +0100 »

a question: the last circuit of the GT championship is tripoli as written in the early-season schedule, or Carthage as reported in the standings?
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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2012, 12:20:08 PM +0100 »

I think it is Carthage, Mark because Tripoli is not supported by the import system so we couldn't process the race.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2012, 06:37:16 PM +0100 »

I think it is Carthage, Mark because Tripoli is not supported by the import system so we couldn't process the race.
Ok Paul, thanks... Wink
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