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April 27, 2012, 09:37:06 PM +0100 - Salzburgring - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ron-C
 Super Cup NVRacing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.061
120.680mph
1 57:03.809
118.996mph
43 1:18.775
120.278mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:18.451
120.774mph
2 +9.674
118.661mph
43 1:18.931
120.040mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 SuperCup LOL'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +0.422
120.128mph
3 +14.743
118.486mph
43 1:18.850
120.163mph
Dunlop  
Roberto Teso
 Squadra Padova Corse
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +0.539
119.950mph
4 +31.880
117.898mph
43 1:18.912
120.069mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +0.099
120.622mph
5 +54.614
117.128mph
43 1:19.384
119.355mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +1.337
118.750mph
6 +55.654
117.093mph
43 1:18.853
120.159mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 Super Cup NVRacing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +1.176
118.991mph
7 +1L
117.054mph
42 1:19.699
118.883mph
Dunlop  
blito
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 17 +3.221
116.011mph
8 +2L
112.048mph
41 1:21.286
116.562mph
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 +3.318
115.874mph
9 +0.765
112.024mph
41 1:21.265
116.592mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +1.537
118.454mph
10 +8L
102.680mph
35 1:27.324
108.502mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 16 +2.449
117.118mph
11 +33L
107.987mph
10 1:22.959
114.211mph
Disco
Dunlop  
francesco
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 19 +5.019
113.512mph
12 +35L
108.411mph
8 1:22.647
114.643mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Alex Barresi
 SuperCup 7Porsche7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +0.423
120.127mph
13 +39L
116.290mph
4 1:19.848
118.661mph
accident
Dunlop  
Baab
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +1.584
118.384mph
14 +40L
104.723mph
3 1:26.600
109.410mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +0.722
119.673mph
15 +3.986
103.207mph
3 1:21.074
116.867mph
Disco
Dunlop  
clouds
 SuperCup Team Shadows
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +0.811
119.539mph
16 +43L
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Disco
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +1.457
118.572mph
17
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Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +1.491
118.522mph
18
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
Pedro vd Berg
 SuperCup 7Porsche7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +2.418
117.163mph
19
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
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Porsche 910 GT 1967 20 20 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Incident packed and possibly a few road rage incidents....

Some of the drivers were very busy in the Stewards room. It would be better for all if we could try and give some respect.

Couple of incidents in qually - which is unusual but we do not apply the same standards in qualification as we do to the race - nothing doing there.

In general terms, it is not worth reporting anything where you have been blocked unless the car in front is weaving. Difficult not to weave on a track like this.

Lots of incidents reported but not much actual contact.

I think that some of the reports were unhelpful and there seems to be a small feud brewing. All drivers are reminded that we expect drivers to conduct themselves in a gentlemanly manner. If in doubt, back off and if somebody does something wrong, report it and we'll deal with it.

Close racing but let's keep things calm boys...


Server replay time: 0h00m04s

Roberto gets a good run on Tristan but Magic closes the door late. Roberto does well to back off. Good hard racing.


Server replay time: 0h00m22s

Alex gets a good start and slips between Tris and Cookie. As they enter the first corner Alex jinks left which is extremely alarming from Tristan's POV. He brakes and is a little compromised.

Alex had the pass and was within his rights but a gentler move to the left would have been more helpful to Tristan.

Behind them Clouds loses it somewhat under brakes and collects Evil who in this case should be named Innocent. Sadly carnage ensues and several drivers are caught up but that was all follow on.

This could have all been easily avoided.

Drivers are reminded that on full tanks and cold tyres, sharp moves are inherently risky and should certainly be avoided at T1, even if you have the skill to pull it off!!!


Server replay time: 0h03m50s

Cookie leaves the door open and loses some control, Tristan aims for the gap but they come together as Cookie pushes back towards the apex.


Server replay time: 0h05m03s

Roberto feels that Tristan is blocking him but Tristan doesn't make it easy to get past and he doesn't weave so although Roberto got a better exit, he couldn't make the pass so is obligated to back off - that is racing.


Server replay time: 0h22m50s

Tris gets a good run on Piero and looks to pass into a diminishing gap as Piero moves left. This is the classic example where the lead driver needs to be cautious about closing the door as the car following is in his blind spot. As with Diamante and Spa this could have been avoided with more co-operative driving.


Server replay time: 0h23m49s

Tris is still following Piero and leaves his braking late, because he gets onto the grass he manages to clip Piero from behind. Whilst it is clear that Tristan did not intend to hit Piero and gave the place back immediately, he is at fault here.

The rules have this: "The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended."

As Tristan gave the place straight back, I am going to mitigate the penalty.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:18.451
120.774mph
Piero Mercaldo
Qualifying
Porsche 910April 27, 2012, 09:37:06 PM +0100
S22PSC
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:18.775
120.278mph
Ron-C
Race
Porsche 910April 27, 2012, 09:37:06 PM +0100
S22PSC
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« on: April 26, 2012, 08:03:01 AM +0100 »

Season 22 - Porsche Super Cup
Race 9, Salzburgring


The race track was first opened in 1968. Lying in a narrow, alpine valley, it has a rather simple layout, with two long straights plus the sweeping and fast "Fahrerlagerkurve" ("paddock turn") at the bottom, and the narrow "Nockstein-Kehre" on the top. In spite of its simple layout, it garnered a fearsome reputation for the high speeds reached on the straights and the "Fahrerlagerkurve". Aussie 500cc great Wayne Gardner won here in 1987 on his way to Australia's first modern motorcycle racing World Title. This track is fearsomely fast, even in the Porsche, at some points of it's layout. Should be fun!.

Due to declining numbers, we will run this race on ONE SERVER only.


Please check the Season 22 pages for details regarding rules and the Porsche Super Cup pages in particular.


The Server password is at the top of the page.


Team 7                            
  1. Fulvio Policardi
  2. S-2173
  3. Nicky Ickx

Supercup Pastit Porsche      
  1. Phil Thornton
  2. Francesco
  3. Arf^3

Ecurie Makika                    
  1. Stefano62
  2. Matti96
  3. Tom Guerot

Team Shadows                  
  1. Sergio Lonzar
  2. Axel Cookie
  3. Jason Blito

Clark-Hill Racing A              
  1. Ronnie Peterson
  2. Geoff65
  3. HappyAl

Clark-Hill Racing B              
  1. Steve B1rd
  2. Vosblod
  3. Screwcutter

Hiki Waza 1                        
  1. Evilclive
  2. David Rainier
  3. Miniblood

 Hiki Waza 2                          
  1. Bob Whitwell
  2. wrinklydms
  3. Badblood

Team Coyote                      
  1. Raoni Frizzo
  2. Jonny O
  3. Du Fossa

Team NVRacing                    
  1. Natan Vix
  2. Ron-C
  3. Hendy Nichols

Team LOL Racing                  
  1. Tristan Bot
  2. Maxime Lenclen
  3. Pierre D

Team Squadra Padova Corse  
  1. Piero Mercaldo
  2. Roberto Teso
  3. Marco Mercaldo

7Porsche7                            
  1. Alex Barresi
  2. Pedro v.d. Berg
  3. ??

 
This Porsche Super Cup Race will be run on 1 Server only, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated to the end of the RED ZONE, for this race, the entire first lap as there are many places where contact is possible. Thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER
Race List = IGOR
Server =  UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 27/04/2012
Time = race starts at 9:30pm
Track = Salzburg76 - here
Variant = GT67-Porsche 910
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race length = 43 laps
Password: see above


Race List =
Server =
IP address =  
Race date =
Time =
Track =
Variant =
Damage Model =
Qualifying time =
Race length =
Password: NIL


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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 10:42:23 PM +0100 »

I can't make this one as my Mum is coming to stay!
I will start the server though.  angel
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 12:16:42 AM +0100 »

T7 server is set for 43 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session with OpenGL_V2.

Probably I won't race tomorrow cause I am out of town and I won't be back home in time.
Ciao
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 03:03:05 AM +0100 »

Thanks Fulvio, sorry you won't be there.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 07:34:40 AM +0100 »

 Sad cant take part as well , there is a birthday-party on I shouldnt miss .
 Cheesy Cheesy wish you all a great race !
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 03:51:20 PM +0100 »

I just found that this race will be 43 laps ~ 60min at a 1:21 laptime.

Is this intended?
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 07:44:47 PM +0100 »

Just for making things clear. Is it allowed to wave during engagements making a block for drivers that have an opportunity to overtake ?
Ultimately it seems to be a practice I've seen often.  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 08:15:53 PM +0100 »

We have this rule in our Etiquette section....


"Blocking is not allowed, but defensive driving is allowed.

If a driver moves off the racing line before the car behind attempts to overtake, this is defensive driving.

If they move off the racing line after the car behind has started to move across to overtake, this is blocking. If a driver is driving defensively they may move off the line and back onto it only once per straight/section".
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 08:17:50 PM +0100 »

If you feel you have been blocked Sergio, report it and let the mods take a look...
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2012, 09:44:01 PM +0100 »

Did I mention in the mid season review that the Porsche Super Cup had descended into a joke this season? Well boy am I laughing after that collective shambles into the first bend  Roll Eyes Early bath for me, commiserations to anyone else whose race was short lived and good luck to those still running. Ciao.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2012, 09:53:18 PM +0100 »

I was victim of the same accident, J. Blito bumbed in to me.
Looking at the replay, Jason could not see the accident (and me) because of the bend there.
To bad, was looking forward to this race!!
Sorry Alex no points from me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2012, 09:58:30 PM +0100 »

Yeah proper shambles that Ronnie (Ray).  I just managed to stop before running into the carnage, but you've guessed it, those behind didn't and about 3 cars smashed into me.  For a split second I thought I had no damage....how naive!  As soon as I revved the engine it was clear summat was amiss.  I thought it was engine trouble and soldiered on with a slow car, only managing 4th gear at the end of the straights.  About 2 laps later I was out of fuel, so I assume the damage knackered my tank(s)...ho hum.

Looking at the replay it seems one driver (nameless for the minute) hadn't seen the carnage and steamed into the cars that then hit me..

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2012, 09:59:37 PM +0100 »

Very competitive times and a very close grid.  Can't win it on the first lap so why the big rush into T3?  I got caught up in the road block but luckily my car survived the carnage.  I was making good progress until a screen freeze on about lap 10?  Pity, with all the crashes I was probably set to pick up some decent points!  

I think my screen freeze was probably because I had the graphics detail turned up too high.  It doesn't seem top matter how good a computer you have, it isn't wise to put the graphics above half way.

Grats to the finishers (if there are any).
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2012, 10:32:58 PM +0100 »

Sorry to miss all the goings on here. Crap night at the job and a very late finish put the clamps on my race. Sounds interesting though.......
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2012, 10:42:19 PM +0100 »

I was victim of the same accident, J. Blito bumbed in to me.
Looking at the replay, Jason could not see the accident (and me) because of the bend there.
To bad, was looking forward to this race!!
Sorry Alex no points from me.
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Greetings Pedro.

Sorry 'bout that Pedro - I was well aware of the potential for trouble at the hairpin and actually had gone on the brakes quite early but as you have rightly guessed the accident ahead was out of my vision and there was nothing more I could have done to have avoided joining it Sad
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