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May 01, 2012, 10:39:24 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 3 +0.482
115.894mph
1 50:57.709
113.714mph
33 1:31.635
114.983mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 5 +1.289
114.874mph
2 +3.747
113.575mph
33 1:31.204
115.527mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 2 +0.478
115.899mph
3 +10.162
113.337mph
33 1:31.468
115.193mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +2.413
113.484mph
4 +1:04.339
111.371mph
33 1:33.202
113.050mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 12 +4.050
111.517mph
5 +1:27.868
110.538mph
33 1:33.115
113.156mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 10 +3.119
112.627mph
6 +2L
105.958mph
31 1:33.772
112.363mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 4 +0.616
115.723mph
7 +11L
76.331mph
22 1:43.066
102.231mph
Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 8 +2.735
113.091mph
8 +19L
110.704mph
14 1:32.909
113.407mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 11 +3.787
111.829mph
9 +25L
103.747mph
8 1:36.319
109.392mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 1 1:30.433
116.512mph
10 +30L
113.373mph
3 1:31.858
114.704mph
Disco
Goodyear  
blito
 Shadows
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 6 +2.137
113.822mph
11 (+2) +32L
86.767mph
1 2:00.603
87.365mph
Disco
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 9 +2.861
112.939mph
12 +33L
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Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 13 13 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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Jason brakes late at Stowe and rear ends Goran. This was first lap with cold tyres and full tanks and JB should have been a bit more careful. As Blito spins Bernie catches him but ther is nothing the man from Wigan can do.

Closest fit is probably this: "The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended."

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« on: April 29, 2012, 12:12:59 PM +0100 »

WELCOME TO THE UKGPL SEASON 22 HISTORIC (66) TROPHY 

For the tenth and last round we go to UK. The Silverstone circut has some tricks so be aware.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

The Red Zone is from start until after Chapel.

Reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying to allow full timers to join.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Please do not rely on luck!
 
Race List =         iGOR
Server =            UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =       62.149.202.168
Race date =       01-05-2012
Time =              The Race will start 21.30 UK time
Track =             Silverstone Circuit  1967   British Grand Prix
Variant =           66F1 3L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time =  >30 minutes. You are free to start as soon as the server is up but reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying to allow full timers to join.
Race length =     Pro Long (33 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: Papy track


The cars:
Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake

Group II
Lotus 43 BRM
BRM P83


GroupIII
Ferrari 312
Brabham BT19
Cooper T81
Honda RA273


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I

Göran Jonsson



Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II or Group I

Al Heller



All other drivers have free chassis choice.



Password: See above
(2) Driver lists can be found here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=339&theme=6


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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 07:16:30 PM +0100 »

Have to go out and I probably won't be back in time for this.  Pity I really like the 66s and the track.

Have a good race and thanks to Goran for organizing a great season. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 09:44:14 PM +0100 »

feck feck feck
Spent the whole of practice trying to tame a very wayward ferrari only to write the thing off at stowe corner on lap one... Sorry to the white car ( Goran perhaps?) for the bumper car fun - I missed the brake point by a fraction - would have made the corner alright if you lot upfront hadn't stopped to admire the flowers!
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 09:50:11 PM +0100 »

duh!!!  I managed a few laps more than you Jason...but only just.   Shocked


There must be something wierd goin' on down at Stowe, because I missed my braking point too and ran way too wide . And then, just as I slowed right down on the grass some sneaky sod of dubious parentage nicked one of my wheels!!  You don't get the same class of spectator at Silverstone nowadays  Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 09:53:20 PM +0100 »

Got an important phone call just as qually finished. Had to drive lap 1 with one hand and couldn't change down... very hard. Started to catch Nigel but the engine let go on lap 8 which was frustrating as I did not over rev it.

Pity.

Hoped that Goran, Al and Evil were OK but I think Goran was mortally wounded and I see Evil went out Sad - Heller time methinks... can Goran limp home?

I'll be an interested spectator.

Again a pity 'cos I was really starting to enjoy it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 10:44:45 PM +0100 »

No practice , default set up = 4th place (inherited rather than won) nice dice early on with Rainier and Mad dog , Dave getting the better of us , Martin spinning out and then I think Dave popped his engine and retired .

My 2nd Histerical finish , must be something in the air ( well it can't be the hair cos I dont have enough of that ) more on me chin than me head  Roll Eyes

Grats to Al and the pods boys and all others who stayed around long enough to see the chequer   Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 08:03:50 AM +0100 »

WELL DONE GORAN.

Congrats to AL on his bittersweet victory and looking forward to next season already.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 09:00:29 AM +0100 »

Grats to Al and Goran who will now contest the championship on scores dropped, after moderation of course Wink

If I had been a little more alert ( read awake!) I might just have stolen this season's championship, but once again I blew it.

I could have taken any car for this race but decided I would rather have some good racing against Al and Goran plus a few others so, I took the Eagle.

Not a total masochistic move, because I knew that I had a setup that worked and it would be on the straights that I would be vulnerable to the more powerful cars.

To sneak pole was a real shocker, by far a PB almost 2 secs faster than I achieved off line and although I had a small draft from Fulvio, I had to back off through Woodcote to avoid rear ending him and probably missed the chance to go sub 1:30!!.

I confess that I really gave it full wellie off the line and for the first lap and definitely risked some damage to the engine just to get a gap before the Hangar Straight where someone might have been able to draft past. I felt that I was just able to ease away from Goran who had popped into 2nd spot and when he dropped off prib I felt reasonably comfortable with Al about 200mtrs back after 3 laps.
Maybe I should not have relaxed? because I hurtled way past my braking point for Stowe without a thought and realised all too late that I was not going to make the corner!! Shocked  Undecided I almost pulled it around as I ran onto the grass, but the wall claimed my front wheel as a toll.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 09:35:10 AM +0100 »

At the speed you were going I was surprised you could make ANY corner!

Bad luck mate.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 08:48:19 AM +0100 »

At the speed you were going I was surprised you could make ANY corner!

Bad luck mate.

Oh! taking corners at that speed is easy..... close eyes......stamp on brakes....turn wheel.....wait for crunch...no crunch? ....stamp on gas......open eyes....aim at next corner..........simples  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 09:22:43 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 10:45:48 AM +0100 »

What a roller coaster. When the race begun I though I knew the conditions. If Evil won I needed to be 3rd and if Al won I needed 6Th. So I started from 4Th, Fulvio passed so I was in 5Th when we came up to Stowe. Somehow the front runners were quite slow so I had to brake harder then expected but I managed to stop before hitting anybody, unfortunately Jason was not that lucky but helped me over the fence.

But I was lucky enough to end up right side up but outside the fence. After a mile or two I managed to get back on the track just to find out that my car was hopeless in right hand corners but I was still running and now I just had to wait for the others to run into problems. Evil was soon missing from my pribluda and that meant that I "only" had to manage 6Th, I was 9Th at that moment. Because the car was very hard to drive I had to focus on not being in the way for others and at times I was not really as successful as I would have wanted, I am sorry if anybody got into problems because of me and I keep thinking about if it was that wise to stay in the race, came to the conclusion that it was not and carried on.

Things got even worse when I on top of things lost a front wheel, but I still managed to keep going and at the finish I was in 7Th, so in my mind I had lost the championship to Al, who won. I tried to think of Al`s missfortune at the Nurburg race, you know you win some and lose some but did not really succeed.

Anyway I hurried to import the result and generate standings and got me a real shock. There I was at the top of the table. How was that possible? It turned out that before the race my two worst results were the 0 points from the Rouen race where I did not come to start because of a power cut at home and the 5Th from the Halle race were my engine gave up on me in the lead but I finished 5Th with 28 points.

So, I had done it all for nothing, Al  was never in a position where he could beat me. Before the race with his two worst result's gone he had 285 points and if he won he would get 335 but I allready had 338 and would not lose anything so if I had been a better mathematician I could, as soon as Evil was out of the race, have parked the car and waited for glory.

To sum it up, both Al, Evil and me had our misfortune so I guess in the end it evened out but I would like to say something about the handicap system we use in the Historic. Every handicap system has it`s downsides and this system is not right when we have basically equal drivers. So I think we have to think about this for the future as long as we do not have drivers like Hristo and Tim running the division. Any suggestions are welcome.

I also would like to thank all drivers that have competed in the season 22 Historic Trophy and welcome you all back for season 23.

Göran 

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 10:54:52 AM +0100 »

Thanks for organising it Goran - it has been great fun.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 01:28:56 PM +0100 »

Firstly I'd like to congratulate Goran on winning the championship clap but I'd also like to commiserate with Clive for his untimely exit while he had the championship firmly in his grasp. My PC malfunction while leading at Nurby was a real sickener so I know the feeling only too well Sad

Well, I have to thank my new “sports psychologist” Goran for providing the motivation for my win, as he had assured me before the race in chat that it was still mathematically possible for me to win the championship... it was only after I'd driven out of my skin for 34 laps that we both discovered this wasn't entirely correct! Think I'll be joining you on that junior Mathematics course Goran blink

Back to the race, I was very grateful to my teammate Tom for waving me through at the start & allowing me to pull out a small gap to Fulvio – a gap that was to prove critical in the end. This allowed me up into 2nd but I could see Clive up ahead was in no mood to hang about & my efforts to get a sniff of his slipstream were being thwarted by his impressive opening pace. It looked like it was going to be a long, hard chase so I was rather shocked to see Clive going wide onto the grass soon after & even more shocked when an errant wheel rolled across the track to indicate Evil was out of the race. Any thoughts of trying to ease off & preserve the fragile & already overheating Lotus engine were dispelled when Fulvio closed rapidly. I suddenly found myself desperately trying to stay far enough ahead to deny any tow, but Fulvio was absolutely relentless in his charge & that's how it remained for over 30 laps. I have to thank my new “fitness coach” Fulvio as I was drenched in sweat after that workout.  sweatdrop   

It was a little disappointing to find out that the win wasn't enough to clinch the championship after all no but I have to say I've thoroughly enjoyed Historics this time out. Thanks to Goran for organising - great challenging tracks & hard but fair racing from all - certainly from what I've seen anyway thumbup1 . It's been a very close battle & as Goran indicated there's no doubt that the handicap chassis have had a large influence on the outcome (it can be a disadvantage to be too consistent!) but ultimately the championship went to the driver with the most wins so WD Goran... Enjoy the glory & brace yourself for a renewed attack next season Grin Hopefully Tom & Fulvio & others will be able to attend more races next season too - in a way the handicap system showed its failings because only 3 of us ended up fighting for the title - with more winners it might work better.

edit: for bad maths (again) 
 
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 03:27:39 PM +0100 »

LOL LOL LOL

I did tell you before the race that it was between Goran and Clive, you should trust your Uncle Badblood!

Good series all round. Top three have a ciggy paper between them and you all deserve the plaudits.

Clive has won the Memorial Trophy, Goran has won the Historics.

Al - you lead in Pros but all you need to do is punt Clive off at T1... only Clive can beat you but he can get a maximum of 281 so you need to finish in the top 8 as you will drop only 19 and 21 points would give it to you whatever Clive does. Nine drivers turned up last time... don't drop the ball...

Clive - you lead in Specs Light but but all you need to do is punt Art off at T1... if Art wins that race he pips you whatever you do. You need to keep an eye on him as he will get his full points but you will drop 32... Art needs a top 4 and if he gets it, you need to finish ahead of him. Simples  Grin
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