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May 08, 2012, 09:36:09 PM +0100 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Novices (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
blito
 Shadows
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.744
103.928mph
1 41:22.774
102.000mph
27 1:30.672
103.443mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.244
104.506mph
2 +2.966
101.878mph
27 1:30.010
104.203mph
Dunlop  
Giovani
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.724
103.951mph
3 +10.528
101.569mph
27 1:30.377
103.780mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +1.797
102.729mph
4 +10.984
101.551mph
27 1:30.157
104.034mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.220
103.382mph
5 +18.707
101.237mph
27 1:30.876
103.210mph
Dunlop  
Rotaxmax125
 Supersonic Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +1.023
103.607mph
6 +37.072
100.499mph
27 1:30.742
103.363mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:29.505
104.791mph
7 +44.982
100.185mph
27 1:30.654
103.463mph
Goodyear  
Johnny.P
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 3 +0.588
104.107mph
8 +54.612
99.805mph
27 1:30.595
103.531mph
Goodyear  
Pierre D
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +3.460
100.891mph
9 +1L
97.356mph
26 1:33.156
100.684mph
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.879
103.772mph
10 +5L
99.224mph
22 1:30.712
103.397mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 10 +1.597
102.954mph
11 +6L
97.237mph
21 1:32.288
101.631mph
accident
Goodyear  
NewBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +1.043
103.584mph
12 +18L
93.379mph
9 1:33.472
100.344mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 14 ---
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 ---
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Goodyear  

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Nothing in the Red Zone and although Jason and Hendy tripped over one another into Tarzan second time round, after a bit of a dart by the flying BT11, it wasn't reported and if the drivers are happy to leave it, so am I. Here's Tarzan, I'm Jase maybe ;)

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« on: May 03, 2012, 08:15:52 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 22 65 Novices Trophy
Race 9 Zandvoort

Welcome to the final round of the Novices Trophy for Season 22 - we are off to Holland to play in the sand dunes. Norm has what looks like a solid lead but because of his need to drop a score, it is a straight fight between him and Hendy for the Novice crown. Good luck to them both. Rog is comfortable in third but can't reach the top step.

Circuit Park Zandvoort is located in Burgemeester van Alphenstraat, near the town of Zandvoort in the Netherlands. The first street race was held on June 3, 1939. A real circuit was not built until after the war, based on communications roads built by the German army during its occupation in WW2. It was inaugurated on August 7, 1948. Next year the circuit hosted the Zandvoort Grand Prix. The following year, the race was called the Dutch Grand Prix, and it was included in the Formula One World Championship from 1952. It remained on the F1 calendar for 30 out of the next 34 years. In 1985, the Dutch Grand Prix was held for the last time. The company that commercially ran the circuit went out of business, marking the end of Circuit Zandvoort. A plan to save the remaining track was eventually made and Circuit Park Zandvoort was born, a 1.6 mile Club Circuit, in 1989.

The circuit is a twisty bumpy monster and it can be difficult to pass. So beware.

The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will cover the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 22 pages for details regarding rules and the Novices Trophy pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. EVERY Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9196.0

Please ensure that you take a valid chassis for your group. THIS IS IMPORTANT AS THE CHASSIS GROUPINGS AND YOUR SEEDING HAS CHANGED. Please check the Novice Chassis thread. I will be checking.

There are some new faces potentially amongst us who have been assigned to Group I. Other drivers have also had seedings changed as part of an ongoing review. If you feel you have been wrongly seeded, please let me know.

Group I
Lotus, Ferrari, BRM, Honda, BT11, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 2
BRM, Honda, BT11, Ferrari, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 3
Honda, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 4
Cooper, BT7

GROUP 5
BT7

FULL TIME
DRIVERCHASSIS GROUP
Badblood1
Rotaxmax1253
il lupo mannaro2
blito5
NHance3
HappyAl2
Nigel Smith3
economia2
Hendy Nichols4
Screwcutter2
RogUK4
Roberto Vianna1
Pierre D1
carlospaz1
Phillipe GIRARD1
Giovani1
Leonardo1
Noguiera1

RESERVE
DRIVERCHASSIS GROUP
Miniblood2
JonnyBoy3
goldtop1
AuldenA2
Norbert2
BookieW1



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Race date = 24/04/2012
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Track = Zandvoort (Papy)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 27 laps
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Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents in the Lap 1 red zone will be moderated.


65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 10:22:24 PM +0100 »

Right, c'mon, give me some tips on how to drive this baby - its HARD!
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 10:27:52 PM +0100 »

Right, c'mon, give me some tips on how to drive this baby - its HARD!

keep away from the sandhills  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 03:30:39 AM +0100 »

1965 and you're in Amsterdam, Paul. Don't smoke and drive !
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 02:12:41 PM +0100 »

Paul in your post you have to race Mosport again...
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 07:06:32 PM +0100 »

Thanks Cookie - I forgot to save it... same laps tho. Managed to get it right for the Inters. Now, what about those tips...
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 09:25:49 PM +0100 »

I too am struggling here and for what its worth Paul I think that there is only 1 racing line at Zandvoort- you've got to get in the groove man Wink Finding the rhythm at this flowing track I think is more important than aceing a setup.... that said I am finding it hard to breach 1.30
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 07:39:21 PM +0100 »

Thats plenty quick enough for the novices Johnny...
I expect a race pace of 31.xx in my BT7.. maybe a low 30.xx in flying lap trim......
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 11:02:52 PM +0100 »

I was comfy 1:31 in training but in the race the handling was EVIL. Massive understeer and melted left front Sad

some 1.5 secs down in the first sector alone...

ah well.

Well done to Hendy and commiserations to Norm - thought you might do it there for a mo. Great qually.

Enjoyed the season and looking forward to S23. Thoughts on the handicapping would be helpful.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 11:48:12 PM +0100 »

Well, that turned out to be a fun, but seeming hard-fought run through the dunes!

Had a couple of runs round here yesterday in 65's & was fairly happy with a high 1:32.    I found a good setup tip - take the excess fuel out;  32laps-worth was plenty!

My Honda time was over 1 second slower, so that chassis lost out again  (although I was already aware of the extra gear - that came to light last time on about my 3rd lap of Mosport!).

Then I read the posts that seemed to mention 1:30 should be the target - hmmm, waaay off in that case!

Had an ok qually session, which still put me pretty much at the back.  There were a number of incidents so I inherited 4th before dropping it again in a couple of times.  At times we seemed to have a train going there;  although distance back to my carriage was growing a little each time round.   Ending up at 4th (subject to mod of course!)  was a welcome surprise.


I really am starting to like these here '65s.  Although I really did not seem to see much running off/expected novice behaviour out there...!  Maybe half the field will be invited to move up somewhere next season?! Wink

Anyway,  thanks all for an enjoyable run these last couple of events. 

Congrats to the podium & the champion!

Cheers,
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 08:36:21 AM +0100 »

Congrats to Jason on the race win, massive congrats to Hendy on the championship win, and also congrats to Norm on a well fought season, and of course to the rest of us Smiley

My lack of practice for this race show up quite quickly as I was no where near the front. I really struggled to get a clean lap in qualifying, not really traffic, more like problems of my own making. I finally got a half decent time, so I went to my race setup to get myself ready. I was surprised to find that I was much quicker with race fuel onboard, and managed to beat my pervious qualifying time by half a second.

As the race started, I knew that if I pushed my tyres quickly over heated, so I generally brought everything up to temperature, while being quite careful around the first few laps. I was just about in touch with the leaders, and somehow inherited 3rd place. R Venn was all over the back of me, and a little quicker than me at this point in the race, he touched the back of me just after the hairpin, which meant I needed to reset. After I did my stop and go I was pretty much last. Badblood was a little in front, and we had a little battle for a lap or two, until I managed to make a pass stick, but after that I was all over the place.

I was chasing down R Venn, and catching him very slowly. I started to push as I was making slow progress, and no one else was around me, but then a series of mistakes cost me quite a bit of time. At this point I felt I was a bout to be lapped, and decided it was safer for everyone if I just quit, as I really didn’t want to make any silly mistakes that cost anyone else there race.

Thank you for the season, it was a lot of fun, and I’ve very happy that I finally managed to win a race. I’m looking forward to next season already.

Congrats again to all who took part.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 08:54:35 AM +0100 »

What an exciting race! I was pleased with my qually time and 5th on the grid was a good as could be hoped for in the Vespa Engined Bathtub that is the BT7. In pre-race chat there was some suggestion that the BT7 would be the car to have through the twists and turns of Zandvoort but actually you couldnt be further than the truth - of the 16 corners at Zandvoort, 8 are taken flat out and most of the others are not really much of a challenge.  Where the BT7 excells is traction in the 3 really slow bends at the start of the lap.
The start was awesome! 5th became 3rd on the run into T1 and I immediately started to think about making that into 2nd, or even first! The 3 abreast move into Tarzan on lap 2 was not a success however and my trip across the grass relegated me waaaaaaay down the order.  A couple of passes later and one almighty shunt for 3 cars ahead and I'm back in 2nd place and hunting down Normski's Honda, and what followed made me whoop for Joy - I passed Norm around the OUTSIDE of Tarzan!!!! I Immediately pulled out about a 4 second lead then settled in for the cruise to the flag, although Hendys late race push in second place kept me awake!
As always, the few backmarkers I had to lap were very professional and curteous.
One thing to note - my 3rd victory of the season was won in very much the same fashion as the other two - IE, adequate in qualifying, blindingly fast on cold tyres and full tanks then cruise to the finish! My fastest race lap was only 6th best last night!
Congrats to Hendy for becoming Our Champion... Up to inters next season for you my lad Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 09:27:17 AM +0100 »

I passed Norm around the OUTSIDE of Tarzan!!!!

Nice work Jason, I recall Mario Andretti trying that on James Hunt and getting run off the road. Hunt's explanation was "We don't pass on the outside in Grand Prix racing". Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 10:03:51 AM +0100 »

I was surprised to find that I was much quicker with race fuel onboard, and managed to beat my pervious qualifying time by half a second.

I noticed this too, it seemed like there was more stability and traction.

Some contact early in the race on T1 put me in 12th, every time I was about to get back on the track another car 'appeared' on the straight very close to the camera and I had to wait.

This track is easy to drive at a medium pace, but trying to push is very treacherous on the outsides of those high speed corners. A couple times during the race I came inches from what would have been a very bad wreck and the end of the race for me.

It was great racing with you all this season. Maybe I will be seeing some of you in the Ints? Wink
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 11:02:16 AM +0100 »

Maybe I will be seeing some of you in the Ints? Wink

Nope  Grin

I should have said that I hope you have enjoyed the season. It has been a pleasure to race with you all and you can start preparing for Monaco, Monza, Silverstone, Spa, Reims, Rouen, East London, Clermont-Ferrand and two others tba.

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