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June 17, 2012, 09:45:55 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Privateers Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:28.783
118.703mph
1 51:43.568
115.454mph
34 1:29.600
117.621mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.371
116.898mph
2 +22.553
114.621mph
34 1:30.253
116.770mph
Goodyear  
HendyNichols
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +1.972
116.124mph
3 +43.842
113.846mph
34 1:30.431
116.540mph
Firestone  
fester
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +1.786
116.362mph
4 (+3) +1:06.215
113.042mph
34 1:30.590
116.335mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +1.745
116.415mph
5 +1L
111.709mph
33 1:31.014
115.793mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +2.996
114.828mph
6 +36.119
110.427mph
33 1:31.355
115.361mph
Firestone  
paulwbird
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +2.252
115.767mph
8 +2L
108.771mph
32 1:32.825
113.534mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 12 +2.431
115.539mph
10 (+2) +9L
111.766mph
25 1:31.165
115.601mph
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 +2.720
115.174mph
11 +10L
112.862mph
24 1:30.335
116.664mph
accident
Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +1.173
117.155mph
12 +12L
112.098mph
22 1:29.902
117.225mph
unknown
Goodyear  
blito
 Shadows
Honda RA300 F1 1967 8 +1.812
116.329mph
13 +16L
105.773mph
18 1:32.126
114.396mph
accident
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.874
117.546mph
14 +17L
113.588mph
17 1:29.690
117.503mph
Disco
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 13 +2.493
115.461mph
15 +26L
105.664mph
8 1:32.473
113.966mph
Disco
Firestone  
tim folkard
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +2.341
115.653mph
16 (+2) +27L
106.396mph
7 1:30.838
116.018mph
Header
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 +3.347
114.391mph
17 (+1) +34L
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Disco
Firestone  
clouds
 Shadows
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 19 20 ---
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Firestone  
Giovani
 Team Coyote
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +1.664
116.519mph
Excluded +1L
108.943mph
33 1:30.737
116.147mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 17 +3.573
114.111mph
Excluded +2L
105.993mph
32 1:32.901
113.441mph
Firestone  
Giovani
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 18 +4.583
112.876mph
Excluded DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Guys, you gave me lot of works for this race moderation ...

Start of this race was quite bad with 6 incidents on red zone during lap1.
Please, be very careful for next races.

You can have a look to the excellent starts done by Phil Thornton and Nigel Smith.

Unfortunately, 2 drivers has been disqualified : only one shift-R is authorised (unless immediate retirement).


Server replay time: 0

Giovani entered the race 2 times and made 3 shift-R


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

0m50s Billy Nobrakes -Dave Curtis: Billy is slow and unpredictable off the line which triggers a chain reaction. It was impossible for Dave to avoid Billy given the large speed difference between the two, and the fact Billy was unsighted until the last moment. Racing incident.


Server replay time: 0h00m52s

Simple Rear End Shunt (penalty 1+1 place for red zone) for :
- Tim Folkard against Diki Waza (Paulwbird)


Server replay time: 0h00m58s

Fester against Giovani: blatant rear end shunt, penalty 2 places plus 1 for red zone


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Fabio Locarno - Billy Nobrakes : Fabio tries to avoid the incident on the outside of Copse but loses control and as he does so, he moves across into Billy. As Billy is unharmed by this, and Fabio's intentions were OK, I'd put this down as a racing incident.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

SimpleRear End Shunt (penalty of 1 + 1 places) for :
- M Turner against D. Curtis
Michael was starting from the end of the grid and took and very quick and riskly start, in such a situation you are 99% sure to collide with another driver
penalty reduced to 1 place due to the starting conditions.



Server replay time: 0h13m09s

Tim Folkard did a 2nd Shift-R but he retired a few seconds after.

so no penalty in this case.


Server replay time: 0h14m09s

incident between Diki Waza - Phil Thornton : crashbox incident-no real contact
Racing incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h15m45s

Dave Curtis - Diki Waza : Dave lost control and made a terrible rejoin.


Server replay time: 0h39m33s

Giovani did a 2nd Shift-R (1st one occured at 04:13)
Moreover he did a 3rd Shift-R
Unfortunately, he has to be disqualified.


Server replay time: 0h41m09s

incident between Dave Curtis - Phil Thornton : maybe Dave was a little too ambitious but he did his best to avoid Phil's car, and the crashbox was not helping ...
racing incident


Server replay time: 0h43m01s

Nigel Smith did a 2nd Shift-R (1st one at 03:41)
rules are clear : disqualification

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« on: June 15, 2012, 12:07:38 PM +0100 »

Roll up! roll up! Welcome one and all to Season 23 of UKGPL, the world's finest and most celebrated GPL league (apparently). The Privateers open up at Silverstone, host to the first ever World Championship Grand Prix back in 1950. Last season's winner has gone to Works, so a close battle between David Rainier and Phil Thornton is expected. Will Hendy Nichols ditch the BRM and make it a three way fight? Tune in on Sunday evening to find out.

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ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
Date17-06-2012
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackSilverstone
Mod67
Damage modelINT
Race length34 laps
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Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes, to allow full timers to join.

The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of turn 5 (Stowe). Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 06:11:43 PM +0100 »

T7 server is set to 34 laps Long race.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 11:49:59 PM +0100 »

Blast! Can't make it I don't think and Silvy is my favourite track...  Sad
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 10:44:00 PM +0100 »


Not looked at the replay yet,  but I doubt that will really show things any different.

Start was not too bad, apart from the pile-up.  Luckily the spare car was ready to go!

Lonely running for most of the race,  with some excitement in the run up to the 2nd crash...
Shame,  that was otherwise looking like some clean fun.   In insurance-policy terms,  I should admit nothing of course.    But (without waving the apology magic-wand to make the entire situation disappear)  apologies to PT - just saw that happening too late.  Honestly,  good to see you were able to continue.  Admittedly *that* part makes me feel a little better.

Otherwise, good that s23 is finally here!   Even with the other events in the break,  it has seemed a long time coming!

Cheers,
Dave.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 11:22:48 PM +0100 »

Great to see an almost full grid to start the season. The replay is now available.

Incident reports should be submitted by 24th June.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 11:57:19 PM +0100 »

I thought this would be an eventful race, there were cars all over the place in praccy.  Don't know what happened at the start but I managed to avoid the carnage by stamping on the brakes and coming to a complete stop on the start line.

Race went quite well but I clipped Paul Bird on the exit of Chapel and spun him round.  Sorry about that Diki.

Had an enjoyable battle with Dave Curtis until we got tangled up at Club.  Pity I was looking forward to a decent nip and tuck tussle.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 08:47:13 AM +0100 »

A typically disastrous start to the season. Starting at the back, I avoided the initial bottleneck and accelerated along the clear right hand side of the track. Only it wasn't clear - it just appeared to be so  because of GPL's inability to diplay more than a handful of cars online. The result was that DC appeared in front of me a fraction of a second before I crashed into him Shocked. Sorry, Dave. I then inexplicably pressed ESC instead of SR so it was game over. Good job Bernie was around to grab a sackful of points for the Soggies clap
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 12:16:04 PM +0100 »

Looks like I had full share of soggies luck then Mike  Smiley

Qually went well for a change started P4 so I was lucky to to miss the carnage , I was determined to go easy for a few laps ( lost 2 engines in qually ) until everything was nicely warmed up.

when the race settled down I was still P4 ( I think) with Hendy giving chase and keeping me on my toes , then Du fossa went off giving me another place . things went steady  until around Lap 14 when I saw a waved yellow, got distracted "rubber necking" , and ran wide at the exit of Abbey corner to find a red fezzer parked on the same bit of grass  I was aiming for  Shocked
Fortunately Axel ( for it was he ) did the polite thing and decided to move over and let me through to take P2 , next followed another close call at woodcote with a suicidal Waza flying across my bows (these Waza's will stop at nothing to try and grab points ) After that it was just a case of staying on the tarmac and following Dave's distant Lotus home .

Grats to David , commiserations to Axel and well done to all finishers and all those who tried but failed for whatever reason  Smiley

Looks like this could be a champagne season for the privs with a grid full of new and old faces so lets all raise glasses  to S23  Grin

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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 04:22:19 PM +0100 »

A reasonably good season opener. Pleased to have qualified nearer the front than the back & if I hadn’t blown an engine near the end it could have finished P4 rather than P5.
Well done to David R for taking the chequered flag & ensuring a good points haul for Black Night Racing.
Does anyone have any particular hints or tips with cars that spin just in front of you. In a road car if you see an obstacle in front then reaction kicks in & you brake. My normal approach in GPL is to ease of the gas, decide where the car is headed & aim for a gap. If you are mid-turn then hitting the brakes too hard will send you flying. I had two instances at Silverstone where I clipped the car ahead – maybe I’m doing the wrong thing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2012, 05:44:23 PM +0100 »

Oh dear oh dear, I may have disgraced myself here...
Qually went well and I think being top whale in 8th place with a 1:30.5 was decent enough.
I got a really good start and was up to  5th in a flash but over the first couple of laps Bernies cautiousness was holding me up and somehow that really rattled me, and I clipped the Kerb at Abbey and had a violent crash in the barns near the bridge.  I had to wait an age for a Shift+r and that me was me basically last. Did my stop and go but never really got into the groove again after that. I started to go slower and slower whilst making more and more mistakes. Eventually I drifted off the track in a moments inattention and hit the bridge again, this time destroying my race as well as the car. My last couple of laps were 6s slower than I had done in Qual and 4s slower than I was doing on full tanks.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2012, 07:16:32 PM +0100 »

I was the only Lotus driver so I could not do anything than win in Silverstone !
Qualif was good and my time gave me the pole position.

I was cautious for the start of the race and Axel took a great start.
Then Axel was pushing very hard with his Ferrari, and I waited the 10th lap to have an oppurtunity to overtake him.
Unfortunately, he made a mistake 2 turns after. I hope I was not responsible of it !
After the 10th laps, I managed the gap with the 2nd and was very happy to win here !

Now I have no more tokens, so the next race will be very difficult for me !   
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2012, 08:13:34 PM +0100 »

Grats David to the victory!
Grats Bernie and Hendy!

No it wasn't your fault at all...
I am a real novice in these 67s so I used all my concentration to keep it on track, when I had to pass the backmarkers that was too much...
I made some mistakes and when I wanted to pass Hendy I took the inside of Woodcote and lost my right front wheel at the pitwall....
These brutes are not as easy to handle as a 65 Grin
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2012, 12:44:28 PM +0100 »

You've got P4 Billy. I've got an appointment with the naughty step.  oops

Race 1, lap 1, turn1, looking pretty good then I hit the clutch instead of the brake and run into the back of g. giovani. As usual in GPL the victim came off worse. While I was able to continue unscathed he was upside down. I can only apologise for my stupidity.

I haven't checked the rules but I believe it goes something like this.
Read end shunt - 2 places lost + 1 for lap 1
fester - loss of 3 places
Or is it more?

Unaware of the startline fracas I was surprised to find myself no lower than 12th and began an unsteady climb to an eventual 4th almost entirely due to the misfortunes of others. I don't know what Tim's tyres were made of but locked brakes produced disconcerting puffs of green smoke. It wasn't long before his engine went bang ( with black smoke Grin ). I swapped places with Phil a few times ( I span, he span, I span, he span ) until I stopped making so many mistakes. About 10 laps from the end Billy got involved in somebody else's accident which brought him within sight of me. I was gradually catching him but running out of laps when his engine exploded.

My race was a catalogue of errors but I enjoyed it. There was enough going on to keep it interesting and only in the last two laps did I ever feel like I was on track alone. I think I'll benefit more from consistency than speed in this series. In this race I had neither Angry
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2012, 06:58:05 PM +0100 »

I think the ruling is you wont get docked unless someone puts in an incedent report , then the mods will need to decide yea or nay for a penalty  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2012, 07:31:03 PM +0100 »

I think the ruling is you wont get docked unless someone puts in an incedent report , then the mods will need to decide yea or nay for a penalty  Roll Eyes
Yes quite true but in the interests of fair play I always put in an incident report for any shunt I am involved in whether I was the victim or the perpetrator.  IMO it should be up to the moderator to decide who was right and who was wrong.  After all if we don't report the incidents how are we to learn anything?

To put it another way, reporting the incidents simply alleviates the moderator of the laborious task of replaying the entire race from every driver's perspective looking for incidents (something I have done plenty of in the past). 

In this race I was involved in 2 incidents, one which was my fault and the other which I would claim was not my fault.  To report one and not the other wouldn't appeal to my sense of fair play.
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