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June 22, 2012, 10:07:10 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Formula 2 Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark75 Barresi
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 2 +0.465
148.128mph
1 39:26.323
146.585mph
11 3:33.469
147.719mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 10 +6.380
144.123mph
2 +19.692
145.376mph
11 3:34.909
146.729mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Matra MS7 GPL F2 9 +3.961
145.735mph
3 +19.692
145.376mph
11 3:33.060
148.003mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 4 +0.829
147.875mph
4 +24.357
145.092mph
11 3:32.193
148.607mph
Goodyear  
Alex Barresi
 7Porsche7
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 5 +2.494
146.729mph
5 +24.966
145.055mph
11 3:33.029
148.024mph
Firestone  
john roberts
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +3.495
146.049mph
6 +26.938
144.935mph
11 3:32.153
148.635mph
Dunlop  
robert john
 
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 11 +7.487
143.398mph
7 +27.441
144.905mph
11 3:33.922
147.406mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +0.618
148.022mph
8 +41.187
144.078mph
11 3:32.113
148.664mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 6 +3.195
146.252mph
9 +57.157
143.128mph
11 3:35.944
146.026mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 7 +3.262
146.207mph
10 +2L
145.479mph
9 3:32.837
148.158mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ron-C
 Pulse Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 3:32.415
148.452mph
11 +3.179
145.242mph
9 3:33.594
147.633mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 12 +9.464
142.120mph
12 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 41B GPL F2 13 13 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h18m07s

Fulvio gets too close to John Roberts & clips him as he goes to overtake. Contact is quite marginal & partly due to the tow effect in the F2 mod. Unfortnautely JR ends up in the hedge. Whilst this would normally be regarded as a rear end shunt the pass may have worked if not for the tow effect in the F2 Mod. Some lieninecy is allowed on this occasion, taking into account the victims preference not to apply a penalty.


Server replay time: 0h22m24s

After exiting La Source Natan blows an engine, coasts the car into the pit lane, stops then Resets. This probably seems like the logical & safe thing to do. The correct application of the rules is
to Reset then pit for a SnG.
The basic rule for an Incorret Stop & Go is a 30 second penalty, although there is a similar rule which applies a penalty of 3 x the time gained or 5 seconds. In this case a 5 seconds is added to Natan's finish time. No penalty points will be awarded.


Server replay time: 0h33m40s

On the kink approaching Les Combe Natan drafts past Cookie for second place. Cookie anticipates the pass & allows Natan room. GPL crash boxes & warp intervene here sending Cookie spinning off the track, Naatn is unharmed. Whilst warp was the primary factor Natan could have stayed a little more to the right.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
3:32.113
148.662mph
G Jonsson
Race
Matra MS7June 22, 2012, 10:07:10 PM +0100
S23F2
June 22, 2012, 10:11:25 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 3 +0.222
144.731mph
1 40:06.085
144.162mph
11 3:36.941
145.354mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +1.686
143.765mph
2 +4.783
143.876mph
11 3:36.022
145.972mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 3:37.653
144.878mph
3 +8.596
143.649mph
11 3:37.658
144.875mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 12 4 (+2) +36.322
142.018mph
11 3:39.416
143.714mph
Firestone  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 2 +0.146
144.781mph
5 +44.826
141.525mph
11 3:37.510
144.974mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 8 +4.574
141.896mph
6 +48.798
141.296mph
11 3:39.100
143.922mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 7 +4.186
142.145mph
7 +1:16.861
139.699mph
11 3:41.423
142.412mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 41B GPL F2 9 +20.186
132.582mph
8 +3L
135.102mph
8 3:44.278
140.599mph
Disco
Firestone  
NewBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 11 9 (+2) +8L
135.648mph
3 3:39.887
143.406mph
Disco
Firestone  
Derek Flint
 
Lotus 41B GPL F2 5 +1.856
143.653mph
10 DNS ---
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Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 48 GPL F2 6 +2.100
143.494mph
11 ---
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Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 10 12 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h00m51s

Miniblood gets a good start off the line but drifts left to early taking out Badblood. Whilst there was no intent & Miniblood was largely unsighted this was a fault incident.


Server replay time: 0h01m25s

Fran loses some speed on the run down to Le Combe & Dave C takes the opportunity to overtake, using some the verge to do so.
The contact is very minimal. Fran just drove a normal line & DC cut in too early. Rainier is unlucky to get caught in the aftermath. GPL is extra kind to DC & lets him continue unharmed.

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« on: June 19, 2012, 12:00:27 AM +0100 »

*** PLEASE NOTE THIS EVENT STARTS 30 MINUTES LATER THAN USUAL ***
The first UK GPL championship using the 1967 Formula 2 cars starts here – the F2 European Tour.
Rules are pretty simple – for the first two rounds there is a free choice of chassis for all drivers. Handicapping will be introduced for the three leading drivers in each division from Round 3 onwards.

The circuit need no introduction – the Papyrus original at Spa. This should tell us two things, 1/ how good the drafting is with this Mod & 2/ how fast can they go!

As posted in the Race Registration thread the series will be run on two separate grids; The Lights (on T7_2) & the Heavys (on UKGPL3). Please ensure you join the correct race. The Driver list is shown below & the Champioship Table can be found here F2 European Tour

Unlimited resets are allowed but every Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane. If you Reset on the last lap a 30 second time penalty will be awarded.
Incidents should be reported in the usual way.

In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation  in the red zone – which will be up to the entry to Malmedy.

LIGHT  HEAVY
Al Hellar  Badblood
Alex Barresi  Bernie
Cookie  Billy  
Evil Clive  Dave Curtis
Fulvio  Francesco
Goran  Geoff
John Roberts  Giovanni
Mark Barresi  Il Lupo
Nicky Ickx  Jonny O
Ron C  Phil Thornton
Robert John  Rainier
Magic Arisoulle  Jonny
Clutch  Skymole
Blito  The Mayor
Hristo  Paul Bird
Arf Arf  Rog UK

Race List = IGOR
Server = T7_2 (Lights) & UKGPL3 (Heavies) - note change of servers...
IP address = 62.149.202.168 and ping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date = Friday 22-06-2012
Time = 21:30 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Spa
Race length = 11 Laps
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = max. 30 minutes
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 07:11:54 AM +0100 »

 Smiley 21:00 UK time isnt there football on TV ??
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 11:21:37 AM +0100 »

Not England Wink

I'll have a word... we might go off a bit late but it is Billy's call.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 11:40:05 AM +0100 »

Looks like Germany v Greece on Friday.
Suggest we defer the start for 30 minutes - so practice will run from 9.30 at latest with the race starting at 10.
The football should finish by 9.30 UK time. If it goes to extra-time & penalties then that you will have to make a decision about racing or football.
I know that for some this will finish quite late - hopefully an acceptable compromise!
Will change the race post later.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 07:25:38 PM +0100 »

Sadly I won't make this one. Enjoy!
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 06:51:44 AM +0100 »

 Smiley thx for , Billy  . hope the greek will make it in time  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 10:22:01 PM +0100 »

We had a power cut just before the race... got the PC restarted & managed to join the server but my router then started freaking out & I got kicked off. By the time I'd reset it a few times & restored my connection the race had started & I could no longer join. Broadband in rural Cornwall is bloody hopeless Angry     

 
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 10:40:29 PM +0100 »

Thanks Nathan for the friendly kick  censored
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2012, 12:25:13 AM +0100 »

You think you're cross Cookie. Some a***hole span me before we even reached Eau Rouge... ah wait, that will be my son Joseph! LOL.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2012, 01:01:24 AM +0100 »

Well, I picked a random car Thursday & ran a few F2 laps.   I seemed to recall the Protos was kind of enjoyable in the fun series & I managed to break the 4min barrier.  Yes!     Then a quick glance at other F2 laptimes showed that was at least 20 seconds away from acceptable. Eeek!

So, no time for any other running. With 5mins before the delayed start,  I stuck a pin in the entry list & ended up with Lola non-BMW.   Maybe that would end up better?!  It did too - 20 seconds off the Protos, although with that default setup I was being reeled in on the long bits.

I seem to have finished with some other car bits attached.  I've binned them as they are bent beyond recognition now.

Unlucky Rog out the hairpin.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2012, 01:05:17 AM +0100 »

Big congrats to the Lights - blanket finish and Evil and Fulvio's finish just has to be seen to be believed. How Clive got third from where he was at the last corner is beyond me... commiserations Fulvio.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2012, 07:57:43 AM +0100 »

 Cheesy
Congratulations to Mark , Natan and Fulvio , as well to Ron for pole position .

Luckily those football game on TV did find his end , without extra time needed .
So I jumped into my racing seat with 16min left for qualifying . P6 not bad .
My start was a good one and due to my high top speed setup  , I could climb up to P4 .

But braking into La Source the 2nd time clearly shows my Matras did behave horrible under braking and or downshifting . Did know from my practise , La Source and Les Combes serves me extreme spinning rear , part of a second later after brake fully released. But I wasn’t able to cure that by setup work .
As my setup did based on my silverstone one , which was all over gentle , I did not understand whats wrong . So if anyone got a clue …and will let me know , it would be great .
( my Spa setup could be found here  ) .
https://rapidshare.com/files/3367097768/Spa_RACE_long_11Laps.ms1


well , to shorten the story : I spun at Les Combes in L3 .stranded upside down . shift_R , did make a stop&go at the end off these lap . Did cruise the track till the end of the race with no one around . reading newspaper on the long straights .

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Evil and Fulvio's finish indeed is amazing !!!
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 10:50:44 AM +0100 »

I did very little preparation for this race, in fact to be honest I almost forgot about it Roll Eyes

So, i arrived in qually with about 15 minutes left......chose the Lola ( nice colour!?? seemed a good reason)...no setup.....no idea what a good setup even looks like for Spa!!  lol

Did my first flying lap and it felt good..until I crossed the line...............6 secs behind fastest time!!!hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

Major gearbox change and I found another 3 secs.............hmmmmm but maybe with a tow ??

In desperation I upped the ratios some more and made 5th even higher, slipstreaming could be important here lol.

From about 9th on the grid I got a reasonable start and slipped past a couple of cars down into Eau Rouge, being very careful to avoid any contact early in this race. Wink
The first time we ran down to Masta I discovered that 5th gear was perhaps not right  Undecided
Fortunately people in front opted to throw themselves either at each other, or the scenery and i gradually moved up the order until I was running alone in 2nd spot!!!!!.
By this time, Mark was a long way in front and now that I was sans-slipstream Mark was at least 2 secs a lap faster and going away.

With about 5 laps to go, I thought I was quite safe in 2nd place...lol..............How wrong could I have been??!! 5 cars closed in on me at a scary pace and suddenly I was in a 5 car dice for 2nd place!!!
The last few laps were absolutely brilliant racing, with slipstreaming moves happening all the time. The last lap was going to be VERY interesting Shocked.
Through Masta on the last lap there were 4 cars very close and I was wondering if I should make a move into Stavelot or wait. Fulvio and Natan solved that problem by going 2 abreast so I stayed behind and waited for an opening....and waited..... and waited. Every time I picked up the tow and thought I might be able to make a pass, the cars in front provided a rolling road block. So we all approached La Source spread across the road.
Natan took the defensive inside line and Fulvio took a line only slightly wider on the approach ...so I took the only vacant bit of tarmac and braked as late as I dared, hoping to sweep around the outside. I pulled level with Fulvio around the apex and nailed the gas.
Initially, Fulvio eased slightly ahead, but it seems my weird gear ratios finally kicked in and I was able to scream the Lola engine to breaking point and just, only just, steal 3rd spot from him.

Great racing guys and a great opener for our first F2 season  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 01:12:16 PM +0100 »

This could be a silly question... but what's the significance of the "purple" times in the race results? Of course blue signifies FL but what's the purple about?
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2012, 01:58:02 PM +0100 »

Had not noticed the pretty colours Al....and I have absolutely no idea!!!!
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