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July 08, 2012, 09:38:38 PM +0100 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) GT Team Challenge
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.142
99.284mph
1 58:13.249
95.507mph
35 1:35.295
100.030mph
Dunlop  
jhalli
 GT International GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 5 +1.067
98.336mph
2 +1:04.535
93.775mph
35 1:36.585
98.694mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 1 1:35.869
99.431mph
3 +1:15.844
93.478mph
35 1:35.555
99.757mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Bandit GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 8 +2.024
97.375mph
4 +1L
92.796mph
34 1:37.917
97.351mph
Firestone  
fester
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 11 +3.234
96.186mph
5 +26.876
92.087mph
34 1:40.194
95.139mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Team 7 GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 7 +1.981
97.418mph
6 +56.784
91.311mph
34 1:39.452
95.848mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team 7 GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 12 +3.262
96.159mph
7 +1:06.365
91.065mph
34 1:39.965
95.357mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Bandit GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 14 +3.999
95.449mph
8 +2L
89.667mph
33 1:39.480
95.821mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 GT International GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 3 +0.703
98.707mph
11 +4L
93.012mph
31 1:35.959
99.337mph
Disco
Firestone  
blito
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 15 +5.041
94.464mph
13 +11L
88.035mph
24 1:41.886
93.559mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 10 +2.742
96.666mph
14 +27L
81.423mph
8 1:39.952
95.369mph
Disco
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Bandit GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 6 +1.845
97.553mph
15 +31L
85.814mph
4 1:40.984
94.394mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 17 +25.709
78.405mph
16 +32L
71.116mph
3 1:55.733
82.365mph
Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
clouds
 Shadows
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 13 +3.439
95.987mph
Excluded +2L
89.369mph
33 1:38.937
96.347mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWaza GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 16 +7.494
92.222mph
Excluded +3L
85.100mph
32 1:41.856
93.586mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWaza GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 4 +0.891
98.515mph
Excluded +11L
93.216mph
24 1:36.520
98.760mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 9 +2.421
96.982mph
DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

I think that there were more "incidents" in this race than the whole of season 22 GT's!! Even the rolling lap was not contact free??

Doni and Juha managed to tangle at the pit entry and although neither driver reported this as an "incident" it is perhaps worth a moderator's comment.
Any driver about to enter the pit can make clear his intention ( even if he does not use GPLWAIT with the automatic chat message) by holding a line close to the kerb and slowing gently and early. By the same token, a driver following any car as they approach the pit entry would be wise to allow for the possibility that the car in front is going to pit and give themselves a little room to take avoiding action.

A couple of drivers took more than the single Shift/R allowed under the rules and are therefore DQ'd ...yes I do check :o)

Only one reported incident(s) however.


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Approaching Hawthorne Jason runs in a little too wide and Doni takes a tighter inside line to make a lapping pass on Jason. Jason's line tightens and suddenly the huge gap that Doni saw is fast vanishing into shadow as the big MK4 comes back towards the apex.
I have watched the reply from both drivers views and think this incident came about as a result of simple misunderstanding.
Jason expected Doni to wait for a better opportunity to make the pass and did not anticipate that Doni would place his Ferrari where he did. Doni on the other hand, had closed up on Jason to lap him and could be excused for thinking that Jason was taking a wide line to let him through at the apex.
Racing Incident

  • Racing incident


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The same two protaganists arrive at Druids and again Jason runs wide, and again Doni goes for the inside line. Having been caught out only a lap earlier by the same car/driver combination, one would expect Doni to exercise a little caution and self preservation and wait until he could make a certain and safe pass around Jason and his very unpredicatable Mk4. But Jason should also have been aware that his car was difficult to control and position on the track, and could have made sure of a smooth and predicatble line around the outside at Druids by braking just a little earlier so as to allow a faster car a clear passage on the racing line?
I do not think there was anything malicious on either side, only a slight lack of patience and judgement.

Caution. to both drivers to exercise more care

  • Racing incident


Multiple resets are not allowed in the GT series. Drivers who transgress this rule are Disqualified.

Three naughty boys have been caught out and given extra lines....

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« on: July 02, 2012, 06:18:42 PM +0100 »

After the opening round of Season 23 GT Team races at Silverstone we move a short distance across the UK to another classic circuit, Brands Hatch.  

This season we are trying to add some extra fun and tactical thinking to the races with the introduction of pitstops which are calculated to bring the racing closer in the final laps. In every race there will be one car that does not need to stop, but all of the other cars will have to visit the pits. All drivers appear to have coped with the added complication of pitstops in the first race and the relative stop times for Brands Hatch are set out below.

Teams can choose to run any cars they like, but in any race each all team members must drive different cars, so only one driver can drive the car that does not need to stop.

Pit stop times are listed below with a choice of a single long stop or two shorter stops... the choice is yours.

THIS RACE WILL HAVE A ROLLING START AND CARS ARE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN THEIR GRID POSITIONS FOR THE FIRST LAP. THE POLE CAR WILL LEAD THE PACK AROUND AT A STEADY SPEED AND RACING WILL START AS CARS CROSS THE START/FINISH  LINE AT THE END OF LAP 1.


"Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here. Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."


Race listiGOR
ServerT7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
Date08-07-2012
Race timeRace starts at 09:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackBrands Hatch
ModGT
Damage modelINT
(Each driver is allowed a single Shift-R)
Race length35 laps
ReplayAvailable here

Brands Hatch
Single Stop Time
 
Double Stop Time
 
Post Race Time Penalty
Ford GT40 Mk4
No Stop
 
N/A
 
0
Ford GT40 Mk1
Stop and Go
 
N/A
 
#VALUE!
Ford GT40 Mk2B
16
 
N/A
 
43
Mirage M1
23
 
N/A
 
50
Porsche 910
42
 
15
 
69
Chaparral Mk2D
48
 
18
 
75
Ferrari 330/P4
60
 
24
 
87
Lola T70 Mk3
63
 
24
 
90
Chaparral Mk2F
65
 
29
 
92


 First Pit Window is: 28 (to go on your pit board) to 18 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 26 (to go on your pit board) to 9 (to go on your pit board)




Some useful information about pitstops. If you unsure about anything please post  a question and we will give you the answers.

1) We recommend the use of the small programme   "GPL WAIT"   .....link here This will time your stop for you and is simple to set up and operate.

2) Pitstops must be taken by coming to a halt in YOUR pitbox. That means where there is a black board with your racing name on it in pit lane.

3) To be sure that you are correctly in your pitbox approach your name board carefully with your car close to the pit wall. Just when the board vanishes STOP and you are correctly positioned.

4) If your stop is LESS than 30 seconds you can be a little less precise with your position as GPL will not disco you automatically.
    However, if your stop is MORE than 30 secs you need to be correctly parked in your pitbox otherwise at 30 seconds GPL will retire your car. THIS IS WORTH PRACTISING OFFLINE.

5) Stop n Go after a Shift-R must be taken as a seperate stop and cannot be combined with your mandatory pitstop.

6) Proirity in pitlane is given to cars that are moving. If you are about to leave the pits after your stop you MUST wait if another car is about to pass you in the pits.

7) In this race all cars leaving the pits will emerge directly onto racing line and will have to be careful as they try to get up to racing speed. Please stay to the inside of Paddock Hill bend and avoid drifting to the left as you go through the dip and up to Druids. This will allow cars at full racing speed to use the racing line. Once you are into the braking point for Druids you should be able to take the optimum line.
Cars that are passing the pits at full racing speed should be looking for cars that might be leaving the pits and adjust their line accordingly to avoid any unecessary incidents.
  Blocking cars that are still at racing speed will attract the attentions of the Moderators.





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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 09:23:14 AM +0100 »

In view of the fact that not a single comment has been passed about the stop times for this race, I think that either.....

a)  I have made a major mistake and each team will run the same 3 cars? Shocked
         
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b)  The stop times are just about right? angel

I guess we will know the answer on Sunday evening. Undecided

BTW I am going to Silverstone on Sunday for the British GP and I hope to be able take part in the Brands race. It just depends on the traffic chaos getting out of Silverstone.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 09:52:27 AM +0100 »

Thanks Clive for this early post!

To me everything is ok with the times, now the teams have to make their choices...

I wish you a good Silvy weekend.

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 12:07:33 PM +0100 »

Hi guys,
I would suggest you a few little changements for those who want make 2 stops at the pitbox, that are:

                       Single Stop Time    Double Stop Time
Ford GT40 Mk4        No Stop                 No Stop  
Ford GT40 Mk1        Stop&Go                No Stop
Ford GT40 Mk2B          16                        2
Mirage M1                  23                        5
Porsche 910               42                       15
Chaparral Mk2D           48                       18
Ferrari 330/P4             60                       24
Lola T70 Mk3              63                       25
Chaparral Mk2F           65                       26

i.e.: if a Chap Mk2F wants make 2 stops, it has to wait 26 secs each time it stops like stated in the column "Double Stop Time".
A Ford GT40 Mk1 has to stop only once and it has to make a Stop&Go like stated in the column "Single Stop Time"

The previous values for Double Stop Time are so high that none would have stopped twice. At least I would not have done it
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 10:02:47 PM +0100 »

T7 server is set to 35 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session with OpenGL_V2.

I won't race for a while cause my palsy Bell recent problem. If Marco will register he can race at my place for Team7.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 11:17:50 PM +0100 »

Sorry to hear that FP. Get well soon.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2012, 12:11:33 AM +0100 »

I may have to miss this, may not be home tomorrow evening.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2012, 11:23:17 AM +0100 »

FMG can't make this race so Team Green have drafted in their reserve driver Jason Blito.  We are substituting a Novice Driver for a Pro driver so we are still within the rules assuming we are allowed reserves.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2012, 01:28:48 PM +0100 »

I'm in for this evening so if you need a driver, here is one ! My preferred cars are Porsche and Ford Mk1. I'll be in pre-race's chat.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2012, 05:18:47 PM +0100 »

OK, plan's changed, will make the race.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2012, 07:57:19 PM +0100 »

FMG can't make this race so Team Green have drafted in their reserve driver Jason Blito.  We are substituting a Novice Driver for a Pro driver so we are still within the rules assuming we are allowed reserves.

That is fine.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 09:47:56 PM +0100 »

Hmmm - not a happy experience. Joined late but my best in practice was 1:42-1:43 - Started super slow with the intention of taking my pit stop immediately and running my own race - unfortunately got tangled in Nigel's spin and possibly damaged the car - engine blown. Stop n Go behing Nigel and then just when I had settled - screen freeze. Grrr.

Hope you had a good race and hope I didn't interfere with anyone while crashing GPL...
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 09:52:44 PM +0100 »

Well I had the GT40 Mk4 going along quite nicely in 4th or 5th. Would have been very interesting where I ended up after the pitstops but of course I got a  censored  censored screen freeze before I could find out. I don't understand this as I installed the new "fixed" track. At least the Gods of GPL had the decency to kick me off early on rather than on the last lap...  
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2012, 10:03:38 PM +0100 »

Having an enjoyable race and even picked up a couple of places until I made a silly mistake and clipped the inside kerb at Stirlings.  A gentle spin and no car damage but I couldn't move.  I assume I was beached on the outer kerb.  I had to wait until the whole field passed by before I could shift R.  Did my stop and go and then my pit stop before making another silly mistake and crashing at Clearways, race over.  Sorry for the poor performance teamies, I'll try to do better next time.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 10:25:28 PM +0100 »

I was having a decent enough race in the MKIV, comfortably in the top ten until I made a mistake and damaged the car. Took my reset and penalty stop and continued on my way and was hunting down Sergio and thinking I might have him but kept losing time by letting the leaders through. Eventually was rammed off by one of those leaders making a VERY clumsy lapping move. I won't name names as an incident report is going in for this one......
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