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July 17, 2012, 10:46:38 PM +0100 - Ahvenisto - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Historic Trophy (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 1 1:22.094
75.819mph
1 49:39.728
75.200mph
36 1:20.771
77.061mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 3 +1.548
74.416mph
2 +1L
72.858mph
35 1:24.047
74.058mph
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 4 +1.990
74.025mph
3 +0.985
72.834mph
35 1:23.497
74.545mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +2.662
73.438mph
4 +59.302
71.441mph
35 1:24.766
73.429mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 6 +2.525
73.557mph
5 +1:08.895
71.217mph
35 1:24.486
73.673mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 12 +4.506
71.874mph
6 +8L
67.940mph
28 1:25.267
72.998mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 5 +2.060
73.964mph
7 +11L
71.869mph
25 1:23.871
74.213mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 Team7
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 2 +1.221
74.708mph
8 +12L
70.858mph
24 1:25.353
72.924mph
Disco
Firestone  
AnGex
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 9 +3.767
72.493mph
9 +20L
70.570mph
16 1:26.709
71.784mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 14 +7.079
69.801mph
10 +4:16.851
59.703mph
16 1:28.343
70.456mph
Disco
Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 8 +3.703
72.547mph
11 +27L
67.515mph
9 1:26.836
71.679mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 13 +6.064
70.604mph
12 +33L
64.879mph
3 1:29.271
69.724mph
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 10 +3.882
72.396mph
13 +35L
65.780mph
1 1:29.625
69.449mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 +4.098
72.215mph
14 DNS ---
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Firestone  
9 UKGPL
 
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 15 15 ---
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Goodyear  

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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:22.094
75.819mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8)July 17, 2012, 10:46:38 PM +0100
S23His
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:20.771
77.061mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8)July 17, 2012, 10:46:38 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 12:36:03 PM +0100 »

As a part timer in 66, I decided it would be impolite to challenge for pole.  Instead I went for an entertaining setup, which let me steer with the rear, start near the rear, and stay out of harms way. angel 

It became obvious I'd gone a click too far, as soon as gyrations commenced in the opening laps.  It takes talent to overheat these tyres, and I was rewarded with a panoramic view on countless occasions.  Lucky to survive my one high speed off, I was surprised to see so many alive beyond half way.  Cool

The overworked Lotus, finally parked itself on top of a tyre, without much of a struggle in the end.  But it was an enjoyable track - doubtless a real challenge for all.  And apparently, everyone decided Hristo had won, even though my car did by far, the most circulations around the track. Angry
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 01:08:23 PM +0100 »

I hate to say "I told you so", but I have to confess that this is one track that I just do not like. Monaco I really enjoy and this circuit ought to be the same sort of challenge, but for me it just does not work, I don't know why.

I was almost tempted to take the Eaglet as it was more stable, but logic dictated that the more nimble Lotus Climax should be better.

I spent most of Quali developing a setup that behaved on full fuel and the last 5 minutes trying to get a good grid slot, amazed that I got anywhere near the front rows  Shocked.
A gentle nudge on the first lap pushed me onto the grass and I lost a whole load of time. From then on I was playing "catch-up" and this is not a good track to be doing that as several offs and bumps with straw bales showed.
Eventually, the damage took its toll and the car just became very unstable under braking and I found myself trapped the wrong side of the straw bales with no way out  Undecided
I felt almost relieved to be able to retire  Roll Eyes
Grats to Hristo who dominated this race and to all the finishers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 02:10:16 PM +0100 »

Awesome track! I really enjoy tracks that flow from one corner to the other and without a stop/go nature. I guess it's most likely because braking isn't one of my strengths, but rally style tracks where you have to position the car all the time and drift it around seems to work for me.

I entered the race without any knowledge of the track, but the lack of handicap gave me the opportunity to take a really good car and I agree with Evil that the BT11 BRM handles great. It took me some time to learn the track though, and then some more to improve the setup (especially the gearing which had to made very short), but by the end of Qualifying I had a fairly good feeling and was already on pole.

The start was good and I kept the lead, then pulled away from Sky and had a comfortable lead by the end of lap 1. From there on I just kept a fast pace because the car-track combo just felt enjoyable, but it wasn't all without problems. I had 2 full spins, the 2nd one costing me some 7-8 seconds, but fortunately I avoided hitting anything too hard or getting stuck, so I managed to continue. The tires maybe overheated a bit in the middle part of the race which made it tricky to apply full throttle on exit of corners, but at the end of the race the car was really quick and so I pushed for a fastest lap. That happened to be the last lap, so I uploaded it on Youtube if anyone wants to take a look:

http://youtu.be/YGXbRgoXvUs

Grats to all finishers, I hope we race this track again in the future or at least something similar in terms of layout.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2012, 02:22:51 PM +0100 »

First, I am sorry for the delay due to serverproblems and hope that the UKGPL_9 was OK for all.

The race could have been good if it had not been for a stupid mistake early on when I was in 3Rd behind Al, just following him, putting some pressure on and hoping he would "let" me by due to some minor off somewhere. Instead I was having the off and also messed up the rejoin because I was more or less out of controll, sorry Sky. So instead of putting pressure on Al I had to do the same to Sky and after some laps he did what I hoped Al would do so after that I was back in 3Rd but now some 15 sec behind Al.

The rest of the race was about chasing down Al and that took me the whole race so when I finally, thanks to some backmarker trouble for Al, again found myself just behind him the race was over, WD Al.

Meanwhile H had lapped us all and put in a FL that by far is a WR for 66 cars round this track in the process. I am not surprised he said in chat afterwards, and in his post above, that he liked the track, WD H.

To those who did not like it as much I guess you just did not get into the flow of the track but hope you will find the next race at Spa more to your liking. Until then I wish you all a pleasant summer.

Göran
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2012, 04:55:42 PM +0100 »

Well I suppose the handicap chassis weren't really all that handicapped at this track but that won't be the same story for the 3L cars at Spa (damn!). I'd decided on the Lotus-Climax here, but when I saw several of them joining in the practice race, I decided on a last-minute switch to the Lotus-BRM just to be different Wink. This was a little risky because although the Lotus-BRM felt marginally quicker it was also rather skittish on the limit & through T1 especially was a proper handful! Sky seemed to be finding the same issues with his Ferrari as I followed him during the opening laps & a big spin by him on lap 3 allowed me up into 2nd. Hristo was long gone by then, but behind me Goran was going rather more quickly than I liked. Luckily he was going rather more quickly than he liked too & a little excursion by him allowed me a very handy 15 second gap.

I soon reduced that gap for Goran with a worrying out of control moment, slapping the barrier & very nearly ending my race at that accursed T1. This rattled my confidence a little & while I tried to relocate my rhythm, I suddenly found myself being rather-hotly pursued by Martin who I'd lapped whilst he was off-track. Now, I'm not quite sure if Martin was eager to get a tow or if he was just intent on repassing me but the sight of his Lotus a-ducking & a-diving right behind certainly provided the motivation for me to relocate my race rhythm a little quicker. (Post-race, the missus did enquire about some "shouting & swearing", which I think was the moment I surveyed my mirrors to see Martin barrelling towards me with tyres locked up as I braked for the slow T4 left-hander Shocked )

After all that excitement, I found myself with a 10 second gap to Goran which was just about enough to allow me to tiptoe around T1 for the rest of the race & make it to the flag with about a second to spare... Well done to H & Goran & honourable mention to Dave for yet another strong finish.     

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2012, 07:36:18 PM +0100 »

Sorry to have worried you Al.  I don't carry Prib, so wasn't certain if you were a lap ahead.  If so, I expected you'd keep your advantage, which you did.  You're no layabout. Wink  What you witnessed in your mirror, was just my normal driving style!
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2012, 08:25:19 PM +0100 »

Yet another 66 series going nowhere , I dont know what I have to do to get these cars competative but whatever it takes i just dont seem to have it  :'(

Spent half an hour or so of qually trying to move up the order on the grid which was a complete waste of effort as I missed the start but then found an anomoly

Starting from the pits the green GO button lights up 10 secs after te flag drops ,  due to the nature of the pits exit being after the start area this meant I got the GO just as the front row boys were about to pass the pits exit  Grin

So in theory I could have got myself into P3 or P4 but in reality was a little shocked to see all the cars wizzing past and by the time I found a slot t sneak into I was somewhere mid pack I think  Roll Eyes

all to no avail as GPL dropped me a lap behind "which I hope to claim back" Huh on the next lap .

A bit of a dice with Paul early on when he got by me at least 3 times before stuffing it somewher more permanantly livened my race up but soon I clouted the strawbales myself and somehow damaged the engine , I decided to carry on in limp home mode and try to get enough laps in for a finishers score but my poor climax cried enough when a lap short of the 18 laps completed target ( sound familiar ? )

Actually I thought I was there, as the pitman was showing 18 to go , but with my missed lap at the start I assume this was duff info  Huh
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 10:35:11 PM +0100 »

Hi there,

looks like I am too blind, but where can I find a Replay of the Race?

So long
Andreas

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 11:19:49 PM +0100 »

The Replays are on the front page of UKGPL (www.ukgpl.com), Left hand side menu.

Current season is here. Follow the navigation links on the left hand side.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2012, 11:43:59 PM +0100 »

Mod (finally) published. My aplogies for not doing so before - I have been away.
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