Quarterly cost: �0
 
March 29, 2024, 12:20:57 AM +0000 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
Series
S4455GPP
S4455GPW
S4466CA
S4467F1P
S4467F1W
S4467F2A
S4467F2P
S44JSMT
Recent
S4455GPW Indianapolis …
S4455GPP Indianapolis …
S4466CA Road America (…
S4467F1W Imola (1953-7…
S4467F1P Imola (1953-7…
S4467F2A Ingliston
S4467F2P Ingliston
Forthcoming
S44JSMT Goodwood (Circ…
S44JSMT Boreham Airfie…
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register     LM2 Replays Rules Links Circuits Teams  
Linked Events
  • S23GT Mosport: July 22, 2012
July 22, 2012, 09:38:19 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) GT Team Challenge
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWaza GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 1 1:23.508
106.007mph
1 50:47.784
101.659mph
35 1:23.385
106.163mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 2 +0.205
105.747mph
2 +39.720
100.351mph
35 1:24.619
104.615mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 9 +3.286
101.993mph
3 +1:04.242
99.560mph
35 1:26.697
102.108mph
Goodyear  
jhalli
 GT International GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 6 +2.649
102.748mph
4 +1:10.322
99.366mph
35 1:23.253
106.332mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Bandit GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 3 +0.435
105.457mph
5 +1:13.122
99.277mph
35 1:25.212
103.887mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 10 +3.750
101.451mph
6 +1L
97.846mph
34 1:27.647
101.001mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 GT International GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 4 +1.255
104.437mph
7 +34.438
96.762mph
34 1:25.700
103.295mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 8 +3.262
102.022mph
8 +49.013
96.311mph
34 1:26.407
102.450mph
Firestone  
s2173
 Team 7 GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 11 +3.787
101.408mph
9 +2L
95.406mph
33 1:28.300
100.254mph
Goodyear  
fester
 Green GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 12 +4.753
100.298mph
10 +3L
92.786mph
32 1:28.793
99.697mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Fujikawa Racing GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +5.576
99.372mph
11 (+1) +29.003
91.912mph
32 1:28.640
99.869mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWaza GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 14 +6.519
98.331mph
12 +4L
91.543mph
31 1:29.807
98.572mph
Disco
Goodyear  
clouds
 Shadows
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 5 +1.801
103.769mph
13 +19L
97.585mph
16 1:26.198
102.699mph
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Team 7 GT
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 7 +2.710
102.675mph
14 +13.495
96.686mph
16 1:27.048
101.696mph
Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 15 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0

Paul is obviously very excited at having the Porsche with its special Hiki Waza superglue tyres for this race and cannot contain his enthusiasm as he approaches Moss and prepares to unleash all that power down the straight.
He has not allowed for the inadequacies of other car/tyre combinations in this race and realises a little too late that although his Porsche will take the corner very quickly, that large lump of metal directly in front of his car will not!


Server replay time: 0

Hristo and Axel make contact at T1 as Hristo emerges from the pits.

I have looked at this incident many times from all camera angles and cannot really see that either driver did anything wrong.

Hrsito emerges from the pits and keeps his car as close to the right hand side of the track as he can. Axel passes the pit exit well over to the left hand side and ensures that any car emerging has plenty of room.

Unfortunately for both drivers they arrive at the point where Axel wishes to turn in and take the racing line whilst they are both invisible to each other.
Although Hristo has accelerated out of the pits he is not at maximum acceleration into the corner, because he has to hold that tight inside line.
Axel is running at race speed and clearly thinks he has passed Hristo and can turn in to the apex even though he cannot see him. Contact only just occurs and a metre more gap and I think we would not be moderating this.
It is not until the very last moment that Hristo can see Axel cutting across in front of him and the first indication for Axel that something is wrong is when he feels contact and is spun around. The second bump from Hristo was I think totally unintended and accidental, although it did cause Axel to be left way behind as Hristo drove away.

I think this should be called a "racing incident" with no penalty given.
All drivers can learn from this incident and try to allow more space and time for cars that are in the huge blind spots of these GT's.

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:23.253
106.302mph
jhalli
Race
Chaparral Mk2FJuly 22, 2012, 09:38:19 PM +0100
S23GT
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
Author Topic: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) GT Team Challenge - Mosport - Jul 22  (Read 8770 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
EvilClive
UKGPL Senior Consultant
UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
****
Posts: 7700

I always play by the rules.... they are MY rules!


View Profile
« on: July 17, 2012, 01:49:01 PM +0100 »

Welcome to the 3rd round of the GT Trophy for Season 23. Back to a Papy track and an old favourite in the form of Mosport. Still a popular venue for GT racing Canada joined the Formula 1 circuit in 1967 at this track, as Mosport hosted the first Player's sponsored Canadian Grand Prix. Despite rain, the crowd was huge (58,000) as Jack Brabham drove to victory over another longtime Mosport Park favourite, Denny Hulme.

The complex was originally just one track-the 3.96 kilometre (2.459 mile) road course. Mosport has now grown to include four circuits on 750 acres of beautiful park land but we will be driving the challenging original with its mix of fast sweepers, long straights and tight corners, all whilst rapidly changing altitudes affect the driver's sight lines.

This season we are trying to add some extra fun and tactical thinking to the races with the introduction of pitstops which are calculated to bring the racing closer in the final laps. In every race there will be one car that does not need to stop, but all of the other cars will have to visit the pits. All drivers appear to have coped with the added complication of pitstops in the first race and the relative stop times for Mosport are set out below.

Teams can choose to run any cars they like, but in any race each all team members must drive different cars, so only one driver can drive the car that does not need to stop.

Pit stop times are listed below with a choice of a single long stop or two shorter stops... the choice is yours.

THIS RACE WILL HAVE A ROLLING START AND CARS ARE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN THEIR GRID POSITIONS FOR THE FIRST LAP. THE POLE CAR WILL LEAD THE PACK AROUND AT A STEADY SPEED AND RACING WILL START AS CARS EXIT THE FINAL CORNER ON LAP 1.


"Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here. Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."


Race listiGOR
ServerT7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
Date22-07-2012
Race timeRace starts at 09:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackMosport
ModGT
Damage modelINT
(Each driver is allowed a single Shift-R)
Race length35 laps
ReplayAvailable here

Mosport
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
   
Post Race Time Penalty
Ford GT40 Mk4
No Stop
   
N/A
   
0
Ford GT40 Mk1
6
   
N/A
   
33
Ford GT40 Mk2B
23
   
N/A
   
50
Chaparral Mk2D
30
   
9
   
57
Chaparral Mk2F
41
   
14
   
68
Ferrari 330/P4
44
   
16
   
71
Mirage M1
61
   
25
   
88
Porsche 910
68
   
27
   
95
Lola T70 Mk3
79
   
35
   
106


 First Pit Window is: 28 (to go on your pit board) to 18 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 26 (to go on your pit board) to 9 (to go on your pit board)


Some useful information about pitstops. If you unsure about anything please post  a question and we will give you the answers.

1) We recommend the use of the small programme   "GPL WAIT"   .....link here This will time your stop for you and is simple to set up and operate.

2) Pitstops must be taken by coming to a halt in YOUR pitbox. That means where there is a black board with your racing name on it in pit lane.

3) To be sure that you are correctly in your pitbox approach your name board carefully with your car close to the pit wall. Just when the board vanishes STOP and you are correctly positioned.

4) If your stop is LESS than 30 seconds you can be a little less precise with your position as GPL will not disco you automatically.
    However, if your stop is MORE than 30 secs you need to be correctly parked in your pitbox otherwise at 30 seconds GPL will retire your car. THIS IS WORTH PRACTISING OFFLINE.

5) Stop n Go after a Shift-R must be taken as a seperate stop and cannot be combined with your mandatory pitstop.

6) Proirity in pitlane is given to cars that are moving. If you are about to leave the pits after your stop you MUST wait if another car is about to pass you in the pits.

7) In this race all cars leaving the pits will emerge ALMOST directly onto racing line and will have to be careful as they try to get up to racing speed. Please stay to the inside of TURN 1 and avoid drifting to the left as you go towards T2 if there are cars closing fast.. This will allow cars at full racing speed to use the racing line. Once you are into the braking point for T2 you should be able to take the optimum line.
Cars that are passing the pits at full racing speed should be looking for cars that might be leaving the pits and adjust their line accordingly to avoid any unecessary incidents.
  Blocking cars that are still at racing speed will attract the attentions of the Moderators.












Logged

Evil Waza, now a completely reformed character!
          **NOW AVAILABLE ON TWITCH @ Evilclive67**
Rank   Only when I sweat
clouds
Full Member
***
Posts: 653



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 05:59:11 PM +0100 »

I'll be in for a place ...on the fly !
Logged

Sergio "Clouds" Lonzar

...Houston, we've had a problem here!

Jack Swigert, April 13rd, 1970. Apollo 13 on the way to the moon.
BadBlood
Former UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 6107


Sassafrassarassum Rick Rastardly!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 10:30:48 PM +0100 »

Lots of fun - even though I was so slow.
Could catch EVRYONE through the corners - big fun, but way too many mistakes to be competitive.
Sorry to Fester for the tap on Lap 2
Logged

BadBlood

aka

Angel Moose angel
GPLRank +71.5ish Smiley
GPL65Rank +71.1ish Smiley
Other ranks? Middlin' Slowish Wink
fester
Newbie
*
Posts: 32


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 10:39:53 PM +0100 »

That was BAAAAAAAAAD  Sad

I spent the race trying and failing to keep out of the way. Apologies to those who tripped over me and to my team mates for me being so useless.

No problems Paul. It made no difference to where I finished. If Sky hadn't visited the scenery a few laps from the end I would have finished a full lap behind ninth and lapped thrice by Hristo.

What makes it worse is that I like Mosport.

Logged

I ache therefore I am
BadBlood
Former UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 6107


Sassafrassarassum Rick Rastardly!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 10:21:26 AM +0100 »

I just feel a WHOLE lot better. Managed to bring home the Porsche for a lowly 15 points and had a Disco at Brands so I have manged 22 points (which is less than any one score that my team mates ahve managed) BUT we lead by 20 points in the table, so turning up can be vital....

My team mates just KNOW that I am making that vital difference Cheesy
Logged

BadBlood

aka

Angel Moose angel
GPLRank +71.5ish Smiley
GPL65Rank +71.1ish Smiley
Other ranks? Middlin' Slowish Wink
Phil Thornton
UKGPL Consigliere
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 7963


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 10:35:19 AM +0100 »

That was quite a difficult race.  The Mirage Pit Stop time was longer than expected but since I'd decided to try and stick with the Mirage for the whole season I decided I'd still take it.  I wasn't surprised to see H and Donni at the front in the Chaps and given that my pit stop time was longer than theirs it was almost certain that they would lap me.  I didn't manage to overtake anyone but I made up a few places when people crashed only to give them all back when I went off myself Angry.  Anyway started 8th and finished 8th so I managed to get some decent points for the team.

Grats to Tim on a fine podium and to Steve for sticking with it (sounds like you had a tough race).  Every point counts as Badblood has said, we are in second place only 20 points behind.  Hope to return in September with batteries charged and ready to go!
Logged
clouds
Full Member
***
Posts: 653



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 07:28:02 AM +0100 »

Mod GT for me is absolutely unplayable with an Athlon xp 2400 and G.Card ATI 9600 AGP 256mb, so I'm waiting for an AMD Athlon xp 3200+ and an ATI HD4670 AGP should resolve any stuttering problem and make this game flowing smooth !
Logged

Sergio "Clouds" Lonzar

...Houston, we've had a problem here!

Jack Swigert, April 13rd, 1970. Apollo 13 on the way to the moon.
FullMetalGasket
Director, AC
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 4238



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 04:54:14 PM +0100 »

Clouds - pretty sure I have a 3500+ kicking around somewhere here
You can have it for postage if you like  Smiley
Logged
clouds
Full Member
***
Posts: 653



View Profile
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 06:03:00 PM +0100 »

Clouds - pretty sure I have a 3500+ kicking around somewhere here
You can have it for postage if you like  Smiley

Damn...Today I've already got the Athlon xp3200+ ! Now I must buy a video card. I've found it for only 100€ and it is the maximum performance in AGP's range. Thanks m8.
Anyway what kind of HW do you have ?
Logged

Sergio "Clouds" Lonzar

...Houston, we've had a problem here!

Jack Swigert, April 13rd, 1970. Apollo 13 on the way to the moon.
Ronniepeterson
Full Member
***
Posts: 1212


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 07:58:18 PM +0100 »

Sergio I always thought you were an alien driver but if you are still using a system with AGP graphics then I salute you as a super alien I Am Not Worthy I Am Not Worthy I Am Not Worthy
Logged
FullMetalGasket
Director, AC
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 4238



View Profile
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 08:17:42 PM +0100 »

I race on a Quad core Phenom II 955 black, with some sort of ATI 4800 series GFX card (Windows has got confused and won't tell me what it is anymore despite running it perfectly! it's a big one though) Asus motherboard (Forget what one), with 4gig of ram and running windows7 64bit.

As you can imagine I never turn my detail settings down  Grin

If you do decide you want the processor then let me know and we'll sort something out  Smiley
Logged
jhalli
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 178



View Profile
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2012, 09:22:29 PM +0100 »

i cant download replay ?  help   Tongue  Huh
Logged
Cookie
UKGPL Divisional Moderator
UKGPL Moderators
Hero Member
****
Posts: 6188


Chris Amon fan


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2012, 10:16:21 PM +0100 »

i cant download replay ?  help   Tongue  Huh

Juha download it here
Logged

Axel "Cookie"

poor, he who sees no stars without the punch in the face

an aphorism of  Stanislaus Jercy Lec
jhalli
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 178



View Profile
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 07:13:13 AM +0100 »

thnx cookie
Logged
Doni Yourth
Full Member
***
Posts: 1290


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 10:23:45 PM +0100 »

Sorry for the late filing of this, chaps.  Never enough time...

Anytime that we come back to Mosport is always a personal pleasure.  When GPL first came out...last century..., it was the first circuit that I tried.  Hopped aboard the big BRM and took it for a tour.  Not counting the trackside objects which are a little off here and there, the rendering was superb!  The plan view layout and the elevations are beautifully modeled.  To drive the virtual version is to know it in reality.  I was born & raised just minutes down the road in the small berg of Bowmanville and attended the track’s first major event in its opening season of 1961, the Player’s 200.  SSM was the hands-down winner in a Lotus 19.  I also attended the Canadian Grand Prix in the fall of that same year but it was for sports racing cars in those early days.  Moss and Olivier Gendebien dueled for the lead before falling to mechanical woes letting Peter Ryan move up to score a popular win.  In 1962, I attended all the major events plus virtually every club race and that’s when my racing bug bit.  I just had to do this.

My rookie year was 1974 in a six-year old Kelly FV and I did nine races that year at Mosport.  Two more in ‘75 before parking the car and putting it up for sale to finance my up-gunning to Formula Ford.  Over the next years, up to 1983, I suppose that I did some dozen or so events in a Hawke and a Crossle.  Even did a one-off in a street-stock Honda Civic.  Ah, but that was then.  This is now...

Grats to Hristo on scoring a fine win in the winged Chaparral.  I consider that fact that I qualified a close P2 to him and ran with him in the early frames as more he not being terribly well prepared for this than any blistering pace that I demonstrated.  Normally, he’s streets faster.

Some dramas on the pace lap.  I have to confess at having a bit of a chuckle as Hristo motored off onto the grass verge in T1.  I could see that it wasn’t a serious off so throttled back and let him resume on the point.  There was a little bumpsy-daisy down in the hairpin but the big loss was for Sam in the Mk4 Ford who went off at the top of the back straight and spun.  This was such a pity as he’d qualified this big brute superbly in P7.  Whatever went wrong there, Sam?

Our first flying lap had Hristo rocket away nicely coming off White’s with me close in tow.  Al, who’d qualified very well in the Ferrari and for the longest time, held pole position, was a close P3 to my Chaparral.

That first flying lap I found to be a bit of a surprise as I was nicely in contact with Hristo and seemed to be pulling away rapidly from Al.  He had Cookie in close company in the Chaparral 2D with Juha in a 2F keeping him company.

I found that while I was quickest in the 2F in pre-race trials, I also found it to be a bit of challenge to keep it on the road so my battle plan was to just lay down reasonable laps and not try anything fancy.

By Lap4, Hristo and I had definitely broken clear of Al.  And sadly for Al, he looped the Ferrari at T2 to drop to P5 behind Juha(now P3)and Cookie.  Chaparral 2F’s were now running 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Smiley

Lap7 was key.  I was running about 1-3/4 seconds adrift of Hristo and not about to take any chance to close in when we came upon Paul and Nigel down in the hairpin.  As luck would have, Hristo would be able to pass them both cleanly up the Andretti Straight but I had to follow line astern of Paul til we got to the finishing straight.  Nigel had been so co-operative in letting us by that he flat drove straight off the road to give us room!  Yikes!  Crossing the S/F line to finish the lap, the gap to Hristo had now ballooned to three seconds.  Also on this round, Juha fell afoul of the ever-tricky T2 and spun as had Al earlier.  He handed back P3 and P4 to Al and Cookie before resuming.  Even worse, coming into White’s to finish the lap, poor Juha spun the Chaparral wildly in the outfield verge to lose a ton of time and a position to Phil who was going great guns in the Mirage.

Lap9 and Al drops into the pits to serve his handicap stop and drops to P9 almost a lap down to Hristo.  I note that both Hristo and I have dipped into the 24-second bracket and while some five seconds down to him, he’s still in sight.

Comes Lap14 and I’m off in T2, Clayton Corner.  A simple mistake rather than a pure blunder.  I let the Chaparral drift a bit too wide to the right over the crest and tip-toed along the edge of the roadway.  For a while there, I actually thought I was going to save it but no, the 2F was off onto the infield grass verge.  The Chaparral cruised along at ever-reducing speed and I was maintaining a reasonable degree of control.  The only question now was would I be able to bring it to heel in time before I hit the infield fence.  If so, I’d be able to bring it back and the time loss wouldn’t be that major.  Nope.  Kissed the fence and spun the car.  Bugger!  While I still maintained P2, I dropped a solid nine seconds thanks to the gaffe with a net deficit to Hristo of about 16 seconds.

At the end of Lap16, I ducked into the pits to serve the one stop intended.  I fell off the road in T9 on the approach to the pits and added a little more time to my in & out than I intended.  Putz!

After serving 41 seconds in my stall, I gassed it out to find that I was relegated to P4 just behind Tim’s honking Mk4.  That became P3 the very next lap as Cookie dropped in for his timed stop.  Over the next couple of laps, I deked this way and that trying to get by Tim but he was driving the big Ford with great skill and abandon.  It’s no cinch to pass at Mosport and Tim was putting up a spirited defense.  Finally, on Lap20, I got a good exit on the low side of T1 and steamed up on Tim’s right as we approached T2.  This was done in such a rapid manner that I don’t think Tim had even a chance to contemplate moving over to the right to take up the proper approach line to T2.   Tim was obliged to stay to the left as we roared up the hill.  (This is not a pleasant prospect.  I’ve had real-life competitors throw blocks on me in this manner by intentionally staying to the left side of the roadway on the approach to T2 and I giggled when they sailed straight on over the crest to end up somewhere near Bowmanville.)

A risky move to some degree on my part but I’ve pulled it off before and I trusted two things: the grip afforded the Chaparral 2F and Tim’s skill.  Just made it!  P2 in my grasp with little likelihood that anyone would be able to threaten me at this point, I eased my pace and just concentrated on bringing the car home without further error.  Juha was not far behind myself and Tim but had yet to serve his handicap stop.  The balance of the race wound down as I concentrated on being careful rather than daring and was most satisfied with P2.

Tim ended up a brilliant P3 in the Ford Mk4 after a stirring drive.  Juha triumphed over his misadventures to place P4 and Al netted P5.  The Evil One placed a good P6 in the first of the GT40's after a fine drive.  Early challenger, Cookie, faded to P7 after some grief not all of his own doing by any means.  Ahem...ahem...   Roll Eyes

As Paul notes above in his post, his contribution in the Porsche 910 has proved invaluable in the points standings and has vaulted Fujikawa to the top of the championship standings.  I’ve never been so high.  I’m getting a nose bleed!  Grin

When all is said and done, though, it's the participation that counts and not the results.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 10:32:27 PM +0100 by Doni Yourth » Logged
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Hosted by DaveGymer.com
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.332 seconds with 56 queries.
anything