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September 11, 2012, 10:35:56 PM +0100 - Syracuse - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65)
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 Antipasti Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +0.920
119.573mph
1 51:13.854
117.504mph
29 1:44.663
119.000mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +1.526
118.882mph
2 +7.092
117.234mph
29 1:44.657
119.007mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +5.640
114.390mph
3 +41.379
115.944mph
29 1:44.942
118.683mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +1.938
118.416mph
4 +42.818
115.890mph
29 1:45.178
118.417mph
Dunlop  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:43.241
120.639mph
5 +2L
109.161mph
27 1:45.132
118.469mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +6.128
113.879mph
6 +14.990
108.632mph
27 1:49.967
113.260mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +0.525
120.028mph
7 +28L
111.155mph
1 1:52.472
110.738mph
Disco
Goodyear  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 4 +1.111
119.354mph
8 +0.865
110.303mph
1 1:52.530
110.680mph
Disco
Dunlop  
clouds
 Shadows
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +1.743
118.636mph
9 +2.796
108.448mph
1 1:53.524
109.711mph
Disco
Dunlop  
AnGex
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 8 +2.420
117.876mph
10 (+2) +29L
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accident
Dunlop  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +3.831
116.322mph
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accident
Dunlop  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 12 12 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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This race had a big carnage in the 2nd lap with Clive, but nobody reported, so no moderation...


Server replay time: 0h00m54s

The two Lotus of Andreas and Bartosz made a pretty slow start and were passed by Tim Muttram on the right side.
Andreas keeps the middle of the road but seems to feel a better acceleration than Tim. He moves to the left in front of Bartosz but then lifts the throttle...

  • AnGex (Andreas Gebhardt)penalty — the overtaking car cuts back in too early Penalty 1 place + 1 for red zone — 2 places lost

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 10:35:20 PM +0100 »

That's wierd then Sergio - must admit I nearly crashed trying to work out if your comment had some hidden meaning ( hammer ) but didn't get any black flags at my end!

Did get 3rd somehow in a bent Ferrari though - bad luck Goren  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 10:57:05 PM +0100 »

Sergio this was your black flag  Wink
Gpl let only you see it, I never saw one...

Great race, great fight with Hristo as long as it lasted, controlled the gap to Tristan and made only one tiny mistake in the hairpin...
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 11:00:23 PM +0100 »

That's wierd then Sergio - must admit I nearly crashed trying to work out if your comment had some hidden meaning ( hammer ) but didn't get any black flags at my end!

Did get 3rd somehow in a bent Ferrari though - bad luck Goren  Grin

No hidden meaning, just at S/F line there was a marshal with a black flag for each one of you remained on track. It seemed very strange none of you saw it. I can't believe I was the only one to see this. Now I go to take a look to my replay. The marshal should be there I hope.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 11:06:27 PM +0100 »

Axel but I was not on my car, I was alternatively on each of your cars !!! Could the black flag to be shown to me also if I had already ditched the race ?
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 11:10:35 PM +0100 »

Anyway my best compliments to the podium and...If I'll rebuild this track...I'll make a lot of holes into the stone wall so when a driver flies out of the wall he can return back on track as well  Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 11:32:08 PM +0100 »

Sergio, you know chatting during qualy and races is not allowed, right? That was a bad remark to make in the middle of the race...
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 07:50:38 AM +0100 »

Yes it is true, and probably about black flags showing only to me Axel said the right. I ditched so I watched the race from your cars and on the S/F line there was a marshal with a black flag. On my replay it is still there. I can only say that while I was out of fence, I've tried to regain the track going back and forth to look for an interruption in the stone wall but I found nothing, and a cartel showing I was been disqualified is popped up so in my last attempt to jump over the stone wall, I've crashed my Fezza and I gave up. I'm sorry for the only one message I've sent thinking something strange was happening, this will never happens again.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 01:10:34 PM +0100 »

Apologies for my crash, although I did not do it intentionally...honest!!  Undecided

Qually went well and I finally got the setup working to nail a 1:43 lap without a tow of any sort, only to see Hristo go a few tenths faster. But then, by now I should have expected that! Sad

My gearing meant that I was slow off the line and Axel took advantage to slip through behind Hristo.

The first lap was OK and I took things easy waiting for the tyres to warm up. But, as the second lap started I misjudged the wall on the inside of T2 and just clipped the stonework, but it was enough to spit me across the track and start my impression of a pinball  !!!!

I was frantically pounding the "ESC" button because I knew that the pack would be thundering around the corner behind me. Sorry to whoever got caught up in the chaos, I know I was hit at least twice by passing cars before I could disco.  no

Grats to those that escaped the carnage and survived the race.

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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 05:03:21 PM +0100 »

yoo ...

was a good race and very hot when Evil scrached  Shocked, I go throu and toutch just a bit the wall with no concequence .....but then Ilost lot of time and Inever can catch Cookie who was very solid leader....honda and brm looks very fast in the strait line.....
...anyway I can be satisfie of the result ...

see you in the U.S.A. ..... Grin
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 11:38:33 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 01:33:39 PM +0100 »

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Hi there,
I am very surprised about the Moderation-Report. Even after the Race Bartosz gave me an excuse. I was driving extra careful because of the Starting-Zone and had the feeling that the car in front of me slowed down a bit. So I did it, too. Then I got a "Bang" from behind and was out of the race. In my opinion its always the car behind, that kicks you off, who is to blame.  Looks like I am wrong here and the next time I think a car in front of me struggle I will give the gas pedal an extra push instead of lifting off.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM +0100 »

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Hi there,
I am very surprised about the Moderation-Report. Even after the Race Bartosz gave me an excuse. I was driving extra careful because of the Starting-Zone and had the feeling that the car in front of me slowed down a bit. So I did it, too. Then I got a "Bang" from behind and was out of the race. In my opinion its always the car behind, that kicks you off, who is to blame.  Looks like I am wrong here and the next time I think a car in front of me struggle I will give the gas pedal an extra push instead of lifting off.
So long
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I haven't watched this situation on replay, but it's not always the car behind which is responsible. If someone is going very close behind you, it's your responsibility to be predictable and don't brake/lift up in a place which the driver behind doesn't expect. Not saying this is the case here, but just an example when the driver in front is responsible.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 01:30:50 PM +0100 »

Thanks for your reply and telling your opinion, Hristo.
OK, lets say: In the most cases its the one behind who is responsible.  Wink Specially in this case. You may watch the Replay.
I am always willing to learn and I sure will learn from this one. Like in your signature: Next time I worry about the car in front of me and I am in doubt - I give it flat out!
Looking forward to the next one.
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 05:34:03 PM +0100 »

In this particular case Andreas it looks as though you lifted the gas and thus slowed unexpectedly. When looking at the replay we look at all cars involved and from a variety of angles. In this case the critical one is the in-car view - revs definitely drop...
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2012, 01:26:13 PM +0100 »

Hi Paul,

as I said before: I sure lifted the gas. Because I was aware about first lap, first corner, just the start. In my feeling the car in front of me lifted too, I thougt. Corner was in approach. It´s gone now. We even have the next Race behind.  Smiley I am looking forward for the next.
 
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