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October 14, 2012, 09:42:26 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Privateers Trophy (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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HendyNichols
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 3:18.063
159.246mph
1 50:44.301
155.409mph
15 3:17.974
159.318mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +2.162
157.527mph
2 +13.640
154.716mph
15 3:20.737
157.125mph
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 10 +7.595
153.365mph
3 +1:08.414
151.993mph
15 3:22.083
156.079mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +8.096
152.993mph
4 +1:40.796
150.428mph
15 3:25.225
153.689mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +1.518
158.035mph
5 +2:01.008
149.468mph
15 3:21.116
156.829mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 +12.725
149.633mph
6 +2:17.493
148.694mph
15 3:25.731
153.311mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 12 +8.223
152.898mph
7 +1L
149.828mph
14 3:25.168
153.732mph
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +6.194
154.417mph
8 +2L
147.440mph
13 3:24.679
154.099mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 16 +11.820
150.278mph
9 +9.380
146.944mph
13 3:25.294
153.637mph
Disco
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 8 +6.003
154.562mph
10 (+3) +3L
146.092mph
12 3:22.864
155.478mph
Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 5 +4.517
155.696mph
11 +7L
145.063mph
8 3:24.958
153.889mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.151
159.125mph
13 +9L
151.133mph
6 3:21.564
156.480mph
Disco
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +5.112
155.240mph
14 +10L
145.924mph
5 3:26.210
152.955mph
unknown
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 +11.150
150.759mph
16 +15L
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Pierre D
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 15 +11.436
150.554mph
17 (+2) DNS ---
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +4.882
155.416mph
18 ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 19 19 ---
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 18 +14.237
148.567mph
Excluded +8L
140.893mph
7 3:30.825
149.607mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 13 +9.935
151.640mph
Excluded +14L
100.324mph
1 4:57.546
106.003mph
Disco
Goodyear  

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The start was a carnage at the end of the grid, due to Francesco Molteni's car which stayed stationnary after its engine exploded ...

Not less than 13 shift-R during this very hard race.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

During the first meters of the race, Pierre D. was really too close to Adam Cooper, and when Adam braked to avoid the stationnary Francesco Molteni, they collided.
Due to the circumstances, I will consider it as simple rear end shunt and not a blatant one.
1 place + 1 for red zone.

  • Pierre Dpenalty — rear end shunt — 2 places lost


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Paul Whitfield made 2 shift-R during the first lap ...


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On lap 3, after the difficult Masta, Dave Curtis spun and quickly rejoin the track, Phil Thornton could not avoid him.
Dave should have a look to Pribluda if he couldn't see the other cars (due to the track configuration after Masta)

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« on: October 12, 2012, 01:55:52 PM +0100 »

Hendy Nichols broke the Rainier-Thornton stranglehold to take his first win of the season, but he will need a good finish to the season to catch the top two now. He does have plenty of tokens however, which will certainly be useful on the flat out straights of Spa. This is Grand Prix Legends at its very best!

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ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
Date14-10-2012
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackSpa
Mod67
Damage modelINT
Race length15 laps
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The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the entry of Malmedy. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 01:54:38 AM +0100 »

Not likely to do well here Smiley I'm not usually one to say I don't like tracks...but I don't like spa  angel
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 09:42:39 PM +0100 »

I think "CRAP" is a tolerable amount of swearing for this forum.
Got my set ups mixed up & just before the flag went down realised I was only fueled for 6 laps. Thought I might be able to exit & rejoin form pit lane - but no luck. Thats' cost me 17 tokens! So ... Crap.
Best of luck to David, Dave & Fabio - hope you have better luck & collect get some good team points.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 10:12:12 PM +0100 »

LOL. I managed to get through the Eau Rouge disaster of 2012 but then over-rotated at Les Combes (which I have NEVER done before - swiz). Recovered and then my over eagerness made me wobble all over the place into the path of poor old Nigel (I think). Reset - Down to Malmedy and somebody was stranded I got round but hit the hedge and collected... Nigel. Sorry mate. Reset and set off - pitted in front of Nigel as I slid into the pits and thought it might be nice not to rear end him. Hap a nice lap with him and pitted again. Enjoyed the next ten lonely laps when my engine gave up. Anyone spot the problem? D'oh - ONE Shift-R allowed.

Because they were both within yards of each other and I was concentrating so hard I forgot. Never mind. DQ but I feel morally clean Wink

Hope I didn't get in anyone's way.

Oh, and don't laugh but that was a PB!
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 10:16:49 PM +0100 »

Impossible to me to finish a race if the engine explode also at the start!Sorry to all that have found a stopped car in the middle of the start.
The second engine is exploded at lap 9,end of the race. Angry
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2012, 10:32:24 PM +0100 »

Not likely to do well here Smiley I'm not usually one to say I don't like tracks...but I don't like spa  angel


You can say that again  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2012, 10:41:10 PM +0100 »

Okay I think I "get" the track now. Small margins of error, but fortunately there's enough time to relax and not too many curves to learn. Had to resort to downloading a setup which was really weird at first (couldn't get under 319 with my usual settings). I was really expecting some fiery crashes, at least in practice I was really inconsistent.

First half of the race was some of the cleanest racing I've done. Towards the end I came into Les Combes too fast and lost my right wheels to the guardrail...having to reset with race fuel at that point was worrying but Gebhart was far enough behind that I was able to pit and stay in the race.

Grats to anyone who managed to actually finish the race, too Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2012, 10:57:47 PM +0100 »

Tried the practise server and my connection was just plain awful , fully expecting a disco in the race I took the dreaded Beast of Bourne so as not to throw away points.

Struggled throughout practise and the race with rear tyre temps , dont know if this is a problem with the BRM or if its just me but the left rear quickly became yellow and stayed there almost the whole race , I softened the rear end before the race which I thought improved things and was hoping it would be fine on light fuel near the end but in fact the problem became worse , prolly due to the higher speeds and sliding more , the only way to control the temps was to back off early for the bends and short shift out of them but then i became a sitting duck  dropping from a worthy P4 (thanks mostly  to avoiding the square dance routine at the start ) lost it whilst trying to keep Phil at bay and before the tyre smoke had time to settle another 2 or 6 cars had gotten past , a few more thrills and spills and I saw the chequered being waved to signal the fact that everyone bar me had long gone home  Roll Eyes

Grats to Hendy (not bad for someone who hates Spa ) Andreas and Vos , commiserations to Team mate Mike who dissapeared from a good place finish on the final lap , and to all those who finished with all there bits attached .

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 10:58:35 PM +0100 »

Sorry Billy [and any affected pilots];  it didn't work out very well at all...

Surprised with qually,  but away from the grid it seemed a number of cars engaged cloaking devices!  So a very cautious pull away into the unknown.  Then some other stuff probably happened (I'll check replay over the next couple of days) & inherited a few positions.

On a lap or 2 & it turned particularly bad after stacking at the kink for some reason & my shifter falling off.  Thought I was out of harm's way,   but I must have ended up in a bad spot.  Subsequently the bottom bolt fell out of the shifter & took a few laps to get that back in & tightened.

I was then being reeled in somewhat & was just slow out there.   After eventually requiring a reset; things seemed a little quicker despite the full tanks.

Running last by that point but inadvertent shift to 1st gear & slow response put me out after parking it shiny side down.

Bah!  


Then took a peek over DaveR's shoulder as he was in the final stages. I think the extra weight onboard must have made his engine sick. It was looking rather close towards the end & well done that man for getting to the flag at a reduced pace.


Cheers all. Congrats all finishers!
Dave.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2012, 11:15:44 PM +0100 »

Is there an award for the most absent-minded team manager ?   

As a driver, I was surprised by Cooper playing the yoyo in front of me and I hit him at the amazing speed of 38 mph. The amount of energy packed in my Ferrari was released in a fraction of a sec and flipped me over like a pancake. I don't mind presenting my excuses to Cooper with a 6-pack of the best Cream Ale (we're in a simulation, right ?  Grin) even though he should himself give a 6-pack of something to Molteni for the way he smashed the poor fellow tenths of a sec later. Split GrosJean award, I think.

As a Team Manager, I went to the replay to find a way to deny any responsability for the incident, I couldn't find any valid excuse and it's 15mn after the fact  that seeing Cooper doing his reset in the replay, I realized I was not in my usual French league, I was across the Channel in a league that keeps in mind the merits of the Habeas Corpus ( Pros aliens excluded of course). What was my driver doing at the bar when he should have been waching live Paul's Circus ?!

Now, if you want to sue me for lack of tokens, I must highlight the fact that I didn't even pass the starting line.

Don't worry, I'll be back .
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2012, 11:20:18 PM +0100 »

Well that was a lot of lonely laps punctuated by a few dramas.

Quallied 10th - not unhappy with that, know the track but hadn't turned a wheel in a while. Those guys up top were fast.
Anyway seemed to be a hoohaa just after the start which I managed to avoid that bumped me up a few places. Then was following Phil for a few laps - just couldn't close - when he passed Cookie I think. Then his car appeared to break into two and both parts flew by either side of me. I'm presuming he had an impact but didn't see what happened.

After that I passed Cookie, I'm assuming he had to pit as he dropped back a bit then started reeling me in. By this time I was, amazingly, up to third - the two guys ahead were miles up the road so no chance to move up. I had sort of resigned myself to fourth as I knew Cookie was quicker but I was still racing. I knew he was back to the left and then BANG. Cookie was off the track but, amazingly again, I finished spinning the right way round with no damage. I haven't seen the replay but will apologise now if it was in any way my fault - if it was it wasn't intentional, I was trying to stay to the right.

Anyway after that more loneliness until Dave C started closing. It took a long time and I knew, if I didn't mess up, he wouldn't be able to catch me before the end. In true fashion I messed up the last corner two laps running which allowed him to close up to 75-100 yards. So last lap, 100 odd yards gap, and I just kept thinking 'don't mess up and third is yours'; sure enough I messed up and span. Luckilly Dave got past me, unluckilly he took a spin just down the road - I'm assuming it was following emergency manouvers to avoid my Lotus. Amazingly yet again, after my personal banking trip, I found myself again intact and facing the right way.

That was it really - a carefull dash to the finish with a comfy buffer. Sorry Dave, who knows it might have been a last minute battle.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2012, 11:36:53 PM +0100 »

Well that was better than I expected.  I'm low on tokens so I had to take the BRM; I knew I'd have no chance of a podium so it was a damage limitation exercise for me.  Got a good start but had to dart right very quickly as there was a bit of contact ahead of me.  Managed to get through L'Eau Rouge OK and settled in to try to drive consistently and hope to make up places due to other driver's mistakes.  I wasn't fast enough to get to the front on my own merit.

All was going to plan until lap 3 at Masta when I hit an Eagle trying to rejoin.  I didn't see any yellow flags and there was no way I could avoid it.  So I ended up having to do a shift-R and a S&G.  Masta is one of the worst places I can think of to have to re-join.  It is blind and very fast.  The safest thing to do is to engage chase view via the F10 button and reverse down the track and turn around on the grass.  Trying to do a 180 onto the racing line in the exit of Masta is asking for trouble.

After that I tried to make up as much ground as I could.  Had Geoff close behind me for a while and then I had a nice battle with Bernie for a couple of laps until he lost it at Malmedy and I got through.  On the last lap I managed to pass David Rainier nursing a sick Eagle back to the pits.  Unlucky David but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't smiling as I drove past you Shocked

Grats to Hendy on a fine drive on a circuit you don't like (I didn't take any notice of that Wink, I know you are fast on any track, with the tokens you have you are going to be hard to beat).

The championship is finely poised with just 3 rounds left!
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 09:37:42 AM +0100 »

I got caught up in the melee at the start and then stranded myself on top of the hedge at Malmady. As a consequence the rest of the race was rather lonely if largely error free until the final lap when I was drawn irresistibly to the same hedge at Malamady but this time without the option of a ShiftR. Fortunately Bernie was behind me to claim 6th place for the Soggies.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2012, 04:17:02 PM +0100 »

Quick reminder to everyone, next round is at Dijon-Prenois, not Wigram.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM +0100 »

Quick reminder to everyone, next round is at Dijon-Prenois, not Wigram.
Thanks for reminding me Ross, I'd totally missed it.  Downloading Dijon-Prenois 1981 VERSION 2 now  Smiley
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